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A62864 Anti-pædobaptism, or, The third part being a full review of the dispute concerning infant baptism : in which the arguments for infant baptism from the covenant and initial seal, infants visible church membership, antiquity of infant baptism are refelled [sic] : and the writings of Mr. Stephen Marshal, Mr. Richard Baxter ... and others are examined, and many points about the covenants, and seals and other truths of weight are handled / by John Tombes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1657 (1657) Wing T1800; ESTC R28882 1,260,695 1,095

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the_o make_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v present_a and_o with_o those_o that_o be_v not_o present_a deut._n 29.15_o with_o man_n of_o year_n and_o they_o with_o their_o little_a one_o deut._n 29.11_o but_o i_o read_v not_o of_o a_o covenant_n actual_o make_v with_o any_o unborn_a answ._n my_o expression_n be_v in_fw-la covenant_n i_o confess_v that_o i_o remember_v not_o use_v in_o the_o scripture_n yet_o it_o be_v usual_a in_o the_o write_n of_o paedobaptist_n who_o usual_o say_v infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n with_o their_o parent_n the_o assembly_n large_a catechism_n avouch_v infant_n of_o parent_n profess_v faith_n in_o christ_n within_o the_o covenant_n mr._n m._n in_o his_o sermon_n p._n 8.15_o etc._n etc._n and_o this_o expression_n of_o they_o i_o know_v not_o how_o to_o conceive_v they_o mean_v otherwise_o then_o thus_o infant_n have_v god_n promise_v of_o grace_n make_v to_o they_o or_o for_o they_o as_o in_o the_o directory_n the_o promise_n be_v make_v to_o believer_n and_o their_o seed_n for_o infant_n say_v to_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n must_v be_v so_o by_o some_o act_n either_o their_o own_o or_o the_o administrator_n or_o go_n not_o by_o any_o act_n of_o their_o own_o for_o they_o do_v nothing_o to_o that_o effect_n not_o by_o the_o administrator_n of_o baptism_n act_v for_o he_o do_v nothing_o but_o baptize_v and_o if_o his_o act_n be_v bring_v into_o covenant_n then_o bring_v into_o covenant_n be_v all_o one_o with_o baptise_v and_o if_o a_o infidel_n child_n be_v baptize_v it_o be_v in_o covenant_n beside_o paedobaptist_n assert_v they_o be_v within_o the_o covenant_n afore_o they_o be_v baptize_v as_o the_o
covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o thing_n promise_v as_o already_o possess_v but_o that_o they_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o god_n act_n of_o promise_n they_o have_v promise_n of_o that_o which_o they_o shall_v have_v when_o they_o be_v call_v as_o i_o often_o express_v myself_o which_o be_v right_o understand_v the_o cavil_n of_o mr._n bl._n vanish_v of_o itself_o for_o though_o the_o resurrection_n be_v not_o past_a because_o of_o a_o promise_n of_o it_o yet_o the_o term_n covenant_n be_v the_o same_o with_o a_o promise_n they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o a_o promise_n make_v to_o they_o who_o yet_o enjoy_v not_o the_o thing_n promise_v which_o be_v confirm_v even_o from_o the_o common_a allegation_n of_o paedobaptist_n who_o say_v that_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17.7_o to_o be_v a_o god_n to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n infant_n of_o believer_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n which_o can_v be_v true_a only_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o promise_n make_v which_o be_v as_o much_o before_o they_o be_v bear_v as_o after_o to_o this_o mr._n bl._n answer_n 1._o that_o this_o can_v be_v a_o argument_n bare_o add_v hominem_fw-la see_v though_o we_o affirm_v yet_o he_o deny_v any_o such_o covenant_n i_o reply_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v true_a that_o i_o deny_v that_o gen._n 17.7_o there_o be_v a_o covenant_n make_v to_o believer_n and_o their_o seed_n but_o i_o deny_v not_o the_o covenant_n to_o be_v to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n nor_o do_v i_o deny_v elect_a infant_n to_o be_v therein_o comprehend_v and_o that_o afore_o they_o be_v bear_v 2._o if_o it_o be_v only_o a_o argument_n bare_o add_v hominem_fw-la yet_o it_o be_v sufficient_a till_o the_o tenet_n on_o which_o it_o proceed_v be_v disclaim_v by_o they_o which_o mr._n bl._n have_v not_o yet_o the_o heart_n to_o do_v but_o he_o answer_v 2._o i_o say_v as_o they_o be_v in_o be_v so_o they_o be_v also_o in_o covenant_n not_o actual_o but_o potential_o which_o be_v nothing_o to_o master_n tomb_n his_o purpose_n i_o reply_v to_o be_v potential_o in_o covenant_n may_v be_v mean_v either_o in_o respect_n of_o possession_n of_o the_o thing_n promise_v and_o so_o i_o grant_v they_o be_v in_o covenant_n only_o potential_o or_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o make_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o so_o they_o be_v in_o covenant_n actual_o that_o be_v the_o promise_n be_v make_v to_o they_o and_o this_o be_v enough_o for_o my_o purpose_n to_o prove_v a_o person_n may_v be_v in_o covenant_n unborn_a in_o which_o sense_n only_a infant_n be_v in_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o if_o infant_n thus_o be_v in_o covenant_n make_v they_o visible_a church-member_n and_o give_v right_a to_o their_o baptism_n by_o the_o same_o reason_n unborn_a or_o uncalled_a infidel_n have_v right_a to_o baptism_n mr._n bl._n page_n 386._o say_v he_o willing_o close_v with_o i_o where_o i_o say_v that_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n be_v no_o rule_n to_o a_o minister_n who_o to_o baptize_v nor_o do_v i_o dissent_v from_o what_o he_o say_v if_o his_o meaning_n be_v as_o the_o word_n seem_v i_o as_o well_o know_v when_o any_o man_n be_v in_o covenant_n as_o he_o know_v when_o he_o be_v a_o believer_n when_o any_o man_n do_v avouch_v himself_o to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n as_o he_o know_v when_o they_o profess_v to_o believe_v i_o do_v confess_v that_o by_o the_o same_o knowledge_n whereby_o any_o man_n be_v know_v and_o so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v know_v to_o be_v a_o believer_n he_o be_v know_v so_o far_o to_o be_v in_o covenant_n he_o that_o avouch_v himself_o to_o be_v one_o of_o god_n people_n and_o that_o profess_v to_o believe_v be_v in_o appearance_n and_o to_o be_v take_v as_o in_o covenant_n and_o a_o believer_n but_o how_o do_v mr._n bl._n know_v that_o this_o or_o that_o infant_n be_v in_o covenant_n and_o to_o be_v baptize_v not_o by_o god_n promise_n for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o promise_n of_o any_o gentile_a believer_n that_o all_o his_o infant_n or_o any_o one_o in_o particular_a shall_v be_v his_o people_n either_o by_o regenerate_a grace_n or_o outward_a ordinance_n not_o by_o profession_n of_o believe_v or_o avouch_v himself_o to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n for_o no_o infant_n do_v or_o can_v without_o miracle_n do_v it_o therefore_o it_o must_v be_v by_o a_o judgement_n of_o charity_n which_o mr._n bl._n agree_v with_o i_o to_o be_v no_o rule_n to_o a_o minister_n who_o to_o baptize_v or_o no_o way_n and_o consequent_o be_v it_o grant_v which_o be_v not_o that_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o god_n promise_n of_o be_v a_o god_n to_o some_o infant_n of_o believer_n do_v give_v a_o title_n to_o baptism_n yet_o no_o minister_n can_v upon_o this_o ground_n baptize_v this_o or_o that_o particular_a infant_n nor_o any_o infant_n now_o existent_a since_o he_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v know_v without_o special_a revelation_n that_o god_n have_v make_v this_o promise_n or_o covenant_n to_o it_o what_o he_o add_v and_o it_o appear_v when_o it_o be_v bring_v home_o this_o be_v all_o his_o ground_n of_o challenge_n of_o baptism_n of_o person_n in_o covenant_n because_o their_o interest_n in_o covenant_n be_v not_o manifest_a be_v not_o right_a for_o i_o assert_v first_o that_o bare_a interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n that_o be_v as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v this_o thing_n that_o god_n have_v promise_v to_o be_v his_o god_n do_v not_o of_o itself_o entitle_v a_o person_n to_o baptism_n since_o god_n have_v make_v this_o promise_n to_o thousand_o yet_o unborn_a and_o of_o those_o that_o be_v bear_v to_o thousand_o yet_o uncalled_a perhaps_o jew_n yet_o profess_a unbeliever_n who_o no_o man_n can_v say_v right_o to_o have_v title_n to_o baptism_n 2._o that_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v this_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n do_v entitle_v to_o baptism_n yet_o no_o minister_n can_v by_o this_o rule_n justify_v his_o baptise_v of_o a_o infant_n since_o he_o neither_o have_v nor_o can_v have_v ordinary_o knowledge_n that_o the_o infant_n he_o baptize_v have_v this_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n what_o he_o say_v of_o i_o that_o i_o seem_v to_o make_v election_n and_o interest_n in_o covenant_n commensurate_a all_o elect_a be_v interest_v in_o covenant_n and_o all_o interest_v in_o covenant_n be_v elect_v i_o do_v grant_v it_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o covenant_n of_o evangelical_n grace_n of_o regeneration_n justification_n etc._n etc._n in_o respect_n of_o god_n promise_n of_o it_o and_o i_o have_v often_o show_v that_o both_o paul_n rom._n 9.8_o and_o many_o of_o the_o sound_a protestant_n divine_n say_v the_o same_o but_o what_o he_o add_v of_o i_o and_o elect_v infant_n as_o he_o have_v more_o than_o once_o acknowledge_v may_v be_v baptize_v in_o case_n their_o election_n be_v know_v be_v mr._n bls._n mistake_v of_o i_o who_o do_v no_o where_o say_v that_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v in_o case_n their_o election_n be_v make_v know_v but_o that_o infant_n bear_v may_v be_v baptize_v in_o case_n their_o regeneration_n faith_n sanctification_n be_v make_v know_v whereas_o a_o person_n not_o yet_o beget_v may_v be_v know_v to_o be_v elect_a but_o not_o to_o be_v regenerate_v or_o make_v a_o believer_n and_o by_o my_o tenet_n there_o be_v a_o bar_n against_o baptise_v of_o infant_n in_o that_o they_o want_v title_n to_o baptism_n and_o if_o they_o have_v title_n we_o want_v knowledge_n of_o it_o as_o for_o paedobaptist_n tenant_n i_o profess_v i_o do_v not_o know_v what_o they_o count_v a_o bar_n against_o baptise_v of_o infant_n according_a to_o their_o tenant_n there_o be_v such_o uncertainty_n in_o their_o tenant_n some_o hold_v all_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v in_o case_n of_o danger_n of_o death_n some_o all_o bear_v in_o a_o christian_a nation_n some_o all_o who_o be_v in_o family_n of_o person_n profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n though_o the_o parent_n be_v infidel_n some_o only_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n after_o the_o way_n they_o call_v congregational_a some_o judge_v of_o the_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n by_o a_o judgement_n of_o charity_n some_o by_o a_o judgement_n of_o certainty_n what_o my_o tenet_n be_v i_o have_v show_v already_o though_o i_o conceive_v that_o christ_n word_n mat._n 19.14_o do_v import_n that_o the_o infant_n be_v elect_v yet_o i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v displease_v with_o the_o disciple_n for_o be_v ignorant_a of_o their_o election_n and_o justification_n and_o for_o that_o reason_n not_o admit_v they_o to_o be_v bless_v by_o he_o but_o for_o that_o know_a christ_n be_v the_o great_a prophet_n who_o be_v send_v to_o bless_v they_o do_v hinder_v those_o that_o be_v bring_v to_o
there_o be_v no_o need_n to_o have_v stay_v the_o reader_n any_o further_a about_o it_o be_v it_o not_o that_o some_o of_o your_o exception_n do_v almost_o recall_v your_o grant_n if_o it_o be_v in_o substance_n the_o same_o though_o you_o shall_v reckon_v up_o a_o thousand_o accidental_a and_o local_a difference_n it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n answer_n it_o be_v true_a i_o grant_v this_o conclusion_n understand_v it_o according_a to_o the_o explication_n in_o his_o sermon_n pag._n 9_o 10._o in_o these_o word_n that_o the_o new_a and_o live_a way_n to_o life_n be_v first_o reveal_v to_o adam_n immediate_o after_o his_o fall_n and_o that_o bless_a promise_n concern_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n often_o renew_v and_o the_o patriarch_n faith_n therein_o and_o salvation_n thereby_o plentiful_o record_v in_o scripture_n but_o the_o first_o time_n that_o ever_o it_o be_v reveal_v under_o the_o express_a name_n of_o a_o league_n or_o covenant_n be_v with_o abraham_n who_o because_o he_o be_v the_o first_o explicit_a covenanter_n be_v call_v the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o ever_o since_o clear_o have_v all_o the_o world_n be_v divide_v into_o two_o distinct_a body_n and_o family_n the_o one_o call_v the_o kingdom_n city_n household_n of_o god_n to_o which_o all_o who_o own_o the_o way_n of_o life_n be_v to_o join_v themselves_o and_o th●se_a be_v call_v the_o child_n of_o god_n the_o son_n of_o abraham_n the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n the_o seed_n of_o the_o serpent_n stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n without_o god_n in_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n the_o substance_n of_o this_o covenant_n of_o grace_n on_o god_n part_n be_v to_o be_v abraham_n god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o his_o seed_n to_o be_v a_o all-sufficient_a portion_n a_o all-sufficient_a reward_n for_o he_o to_o give_v jesus_n christ_n to_o he_o and_o righteousness_n with_o he_o both_o of_o justification_n and_o sanctification_n and_o everlasting_a life_n gen._n 17.1_o etc._n etc._n gal._n 3.15_o rom._n 4.3_o john_n 8.56_o on_o abraham_n part_n the_o substance_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v to_o believe_v the_o promise_a messiah_n to_o walk_v before_o god_n with_o a_o perfect_a heart_n to_o serve_v god_n according_a to_o his_o reveal_v will_n to_o instruct_v his_o family_n etc._n etc._n gal._n 3.16_o gen._n 17.1_o &_o 18.19_o gal._n 3.17_o 19_o in_o which_o passage_n i_o do_v conceive_v that_o mr._n m._n mean_v by_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n the_o promise_n as_o it_o be_v pure_o evangelical_a which_o i_o conceive_v to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o new_a covenant_n mention_v heb._n 8.9_o 10_o 11_o 12._o &_o 10.16_o 17._o and_o this_o i_o be_v sure_o be_v not_o make_v with_o all_o abraham_n natural_a posterity_n much_o less_o with_o any_o believe_a gentile_n natural_a posterity_n as_o such_o but_o only_o so_o many_o of_o either_o as_o be_v elect_v and_o believe_v as_o rom._n 9.6_o 7_o 8._o gal._n 3.29_o be_v determine_v and_o so_o none_o of_o a_o believe_a gentile_n child_n be_v in_o this_o covenant_n but_o they_o that_o be_v believer_n or_o elect_v to_o faith_n in_o christ._n but_o then_o this_o will_v not_o serve_v mr._n ms._n turn_n and_o therefore_o notwithstanding_o those_o word_n in_o his_o sermon_n yet_o in_o his_o defence_n pag._n 90._o he_o say_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n contain_v not_o only_o save_v grace_n but_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o also_o in_o outward_a ordinance_n and_o church-privilege_n but_o in_o what_o sense_n he_o mean_v it_o contain_v they_o he_o declare_v not_o that_o which_o be_v contain_v in_o a_o covenant_n be_v either_o the_o promise_n or_o the_o condition_n the_o seal_n writing_z writer_n pen_n and_o such_o like_a adjunct_n be_v never_o call_v the_o covenant_n nor_o contain_v in_o it_o though_o they_o be_v instrumental_a to_o hold_v forth_o the_o covenant_n now_o where_o any_o promise_n be_v of_o outward_a ordinance_n and_o church-privilege_n or_o how_o they_o shall_v be_v a_o condition_n of_o the_o promise_n i_o understand_v not_o he_o distinguish_v pag_n 106._o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n thus_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v sometime_o take_v strict_o sometime_o large_o as_o it_o be_v consider_v strict_o it_o be_v a_o covenant_n in_o which_o the_o spiritual_a benefit_n of_o justifi-fication_a regeneration_n perseverance_n and_o glorification_n be_v free_o promise_v in_o christ._n second_o as_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v take_v large_o it_o comprehend_v all_o evangelical_a administration_n which_o do_v whole_o depend_v upon_o the_o free_a and_o gracious_a appointment_n of_o god_n and_o this_o administration_n be_v fulfil_v according_a to_o the_o counsel_n of_o god_n will_n sometime_o it_o be_v administer_v by_o his_o appointment_n in_o type_n shadow_n and_o other_o legal_a ordinance_n this_o covenant_n of_o administration_n god_n say_v zachary_n 11.10_o he_o do_v break_v with_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o at_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n he_o do_v whole_o evacuate_v and_o abolish_v and_o in_o stead_n thereof_o bring_v in_o the_o administration_n we_o live_v under_o where_o also_o he_o reject_v the_o jew_n or_o break_v they_o off_o from_o be_v his_o people_n in_o covenant_n and_o call_v the_o gentile_n and_o graff_v they_o in_o ramorum_fw-la defractorum_fw-la locum_fw-la into_o the_o place_n of_o the_o branch_n and_o break_v off_o as_o yourself_o pag._n 65._o do_v with_o beza_n right_o express_v it_o but_o herein_o mr._n m._n confound_v what_o in_o his_o sermon_n he_o distinguish_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o he_o say_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n large_o take_v comprehend_v all_o evangelical_a administration_n and_o say_v this_o administration_n be_v fulfil_v by_o the_o evangelical_a administration_n he_o mean_v the_o old_a legal_a ordinance_n afore_o christ_n death_n and_o the_o administration_n we_o live_v under_o which_o be_v baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n pag._n 120._o he_o say_v our_o divine_n own_o the_o outward_a administration_n of_o the_o covenant_n under_o the_o notion_n of_o foedus_fw-la externum_fw-la the_o outward_a covenant_n now_o if_o there_o be_v sense_n in_o these_o passage_n i_o must_v needs_o charge_v myself_o with_o dulness_n who_o can_v discern_v it_o be_v it_o sense_n to_o call_v that_o a_o covenant_n without_o a_o trope_n which_o be_v neither_o a_o promise_n nor_o a_o condition_n of_o a_o covenant_n to_o say_v that_o the_o covenant_n contain_v or_o comprehend_v evangelical_a administration_n and_o yet_o to_o call_v it_o the_o administration_n itself_o to_o say_v this_o administration_n be_v administer_v and_o not_o something_o by_o the_o administration_n administer_v but_o let_v we_o considee_o what_o other_o make_v of_o this_o distinction_n of_o covenant_n strict_o and_o large_o take_v or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o the_o inward_a and_o outward_a covenant_n i_o have_v meet_v with_o none_o that_o speak_v more_o distinct_o than_o mr._n anthony_n burges_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v spiritual_a refine_v sect._n 8._o serm._n 64._o pag._n 393._o who_o be_v one_o of_o the_o assembly_n the_o external_a covenant_n be_v that_o whereby_o in_o a_o outward_a visible_a manner_n god_n do_v own_o a_o people_n add_v they_o external_o profess_v their_o own_n of_o he_o but_o yet_o in_o their_o heart_n and_o soul_n they_o do_v not_o steadfast_o cleave_v unto_o god_n and_o faithful_o keep_v this_o covenant_n in_o the_o condition_n thereof_o the_o internal_a or_o inward_a covenant_n be_v that_o whereby_o god_n do_v in_o a_o spiritual_a powerful_a manner_n take_v a_o people_n to_o he_o work_v in_o their_o heart_n all_o those_o gift_n and_o grace_n promise_v in_o the_o covenant_n as_o regeneration_n remission_n of_o sin_n adoption_n and_o the_o like_a and_o in_o this_o sense_n only_o the_o true_o godly_a be_v in_o the_o covenant_n and_o they_o be_v only_o god_n people_n and_o he_o their_o god_n this_o distinction_n of_o a_o covenant_n into_o outward_a and_o inward_a be_v not_o a_o distinction_n of_o a_o genus_fw-la into_o its_o species_n so_o much_o as_o a_o distinction_n of_o a_o thing_n into_o the_o several_a administration_n and_o dispensation_n of_o it_o in_o this_o passage_n there_o be_v want_n of_o clearness_n as_o well_o as_o in_o m._n marshal_n he_o tell_v we_o negative_o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o distinction_n of_o a_o genus_fw-la into_o its_o species_n yet_o with_o some_o mince_n of_o the_o matter_n so_o much_o as_o if_o it_o may_v be_v the_o distinction_n of_o a_o genus_fw-la into_o its_o species_n though_o not_o so_o much_o which_o be_v a_o expression_n of_o a_o man_n who_o will_v say_v somewhat_o but_o can_v well_o tell_v what_o to_o say_v but_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o distinction_n of_o a_o genus_fw-la into_o its_o species_n what_o distinction_n be_v
and_o uncertainty_n among_o they_o to_o which_o i_o conceive_v myself_o the_o more_o engage_v because_o some_o word_n of_o i_o in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n 4._o sect._n 5._o give_v some_o overture_n to_o mr_n m._n and_o after_o to_o mr_n bl._n and_o master_n b._n to_o except_o much_o against_o i_o about_o this_o point_n two_o thing_n which_o i_o say_v in_o that_o passage_n it_o seem_v be_v not_o relish_v one_o that_o i_o say_v that_o god_n seal_v not_o to_o every_o one_o that_o be_v baptize_v but_o only_o to_o true_a believer_n the_o other_o that_o make_v god_n promise_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n conditional_a in_o this_o sense_n that_o person_n after_o agnize_v the_o covenant_n and_o that_o to_o speak_v of_o it_o so_o as_o if_o it_o be_v common_a to_o the_o elect_a and_o reprobate_n and_o conditional_a in_o this_o sense_n as_o if_o god_n leave_v it_o to_o man_n liberty_n to_o who_o he_o have_v seal_v to_o agnize_v or_o recognize_v that_o seal_n or_o to_o free_v themselves_o if_o they_o please_v and_o so_o nullify_v all_o yet_o so_o as_o to_o afford_v they_o a_o while_n the_o favour_n and_o privilege_n of_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o he_o ●s_v symbolise_v with_o arminian_n to_o this_o mr_n m._n reply_v but_o little_a yet_o what_o he_o say_v in_o his_o defence_n pag._n 236_o i_o shall_v brief_o answer_v first_o say_v he_o be_v not_o circumcision_n god_n sign_n and_o seal_v which_o by_o his_o own_o appointment_n be_v apply_v to_o all_o the_o jew_n and_o proselyte_n and_o their_o child_n ans._n circumcision_n be_v appoint_v by_o god_n to_o be_v apply_v to_o all_o the_o jew_n &_o proselyte_n and_o their_o child_n be_v male_n of_o eight_o day_n old_a and_o be_v by_o his_o institution_n a_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n gen._n 17._o abraham_n own_o circumcision_n in_o his_o own_o person_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n which_o he_o have_v yet_o be_v uncircumcised_a but_o that_o god_n do_v by_o circumcision_n seal_v ●o_o every_o one_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n who_o be_v right_o circumcise_v i_o find_v not_o nor_o if_o i_o do_v shall_v i_o think_v it_o be_v any_o thing_n to_o prove_v that_o god_n seal_v the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n to_o every_o one_o that_o be_v baptize_v right_o since_o i_o do_v not_o take_v circumcision_n and_o baptism_n to_o be_v all_o one_o or_o to_o have_v the_o same_o use_n or_o that_o baptism_n seal_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o circumcision_n mr._n m._n add_v do_v it_o engage_v god_n absolute_o to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o to_o write_v his_o law_n in_o their_o heart_n etc._n etc._n answer_v no._n and_o be_v not_o the_o sacrament_n signa_fw-la conditionalia_fw-la conditional_a sign_n and_o seal_n answer_n i_o conceive_v baptism_n according_a to_o christ_n institution_n to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o baptize_v and_o so_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n absolute_a and_o not_o conditional_a and_o because_o the_o object_n of_o that_o faith_n be_v christ_n dead_a and_o rise_v again_o whereby_o we_o be_v justify_v and_o baptism_n as_o fit_v to_o mind_v the_o baptize_v of_o christ_n death_n but_o all_o and_o resurrection_n rom._n 6.2_o 3_o 4._o col._n 2.12_o it_o be_v in_o its_o nature_n that_o be_v in_o its_o right_a use_n apt_a to_o seal_v that_o be_v to_o assure_v justification_n and_o salvation_n 1_o pet._n 3.21_o and_o so_o may_v be_v term_v in_o its_o nature_n a_o seal_n aptitudinall_n but_o yet_o it_o seal_v actual_o to_o none_o but_o those_o who_o true_o believe_v which_o it_o do_v absolute_o in_o respect_n of_o justification_n and_o coditional_o in_o respect_n of_o glorification_n which_o be_v not_o yet_o attain_v nor_o to_o be_v attain_v but_o upon_o conditition_n of_o perseverance_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o seal_v that_o as_o a_o uncertain_a thing_n because_o conditional_a for_o even_o the_o condition_n also_o be_v assure_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n confirm_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n or_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o his_o blood_n but_o when_o i_o say_v these_o thing_n be_v actual_o assure_v by_o baptism_n i_o do_v not_o conceive_v they_o be_v actual_o seal_v by_o god_n not_o to_o the_o true_a believer_n without_o the_o inward_a testimony_n or_o seal_n of_o the_o spirit_n without_o which_o god_n never_o seal_v actual_o by_o his_o word_n or_o sacrament_n these_o promise_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n or_o the_o person_n interest_n in_o they_o although_o both_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o oath_n of_o god_n the_o death_n of_o christ_n the_o ordinance_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v in_o themselves_o or_o in_o their_o nature_n aptitudinall_n seal_v that_o be_v apt_a sign_n to_o assure_v they_o the_o like_a i_o say_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n both_o which_o be_v alike_o sign_n and_o seal_n neither_o to_o a_o infant_n without_o extraordinary_a operation_n mr_n m._n add_v and_o do_v any_o orthodox_n divine_v before_o yourself_o charge_v this_o to_o be_v arminianism_n to_o say_v that_o the_o gospel_n run_v upon_o condition_n i_o confess_v it_o be_v arminianism_n to_o say_v any_o thing_n be_v conditional_a to_o god_n this_o i_o never_o asserted●_n but_o that_o the_o gospel_n be_v both_o preach_v and_o by_o the_o sacrament_n seal_v to_o we_o upon_o condition_n of_o faith_n will_v pass_v for_o orthodox_n doctrine_n when_o you_o and_o i_o be_v dead_a and_o go_v answer_n i_o never_o charge_v this_o to_o be_v arminianism_n that_o the_o gospel_n run_v upon_o condition_n that_o it_o be_v both_o preach_v and_o by_o the_o sacrament_n seal_v to_o we_o upon_o condition_n of_o faith_n according_a to_o the_o explication_n give_v what_o i_o count_v symbolise_v with_o the_o arminian_n i_o have_v before_o declare_v to_o wit_n god_n conditional_a seal_n and_o covenant_n common_a to_o elect_v and_o reprobate_n as_o mr_n m._n in_o his_o sermon_n seem_v to_o conceive_v to_o what_o i_o say_v that_o i_o do_v not_o well_o understand_v that_o god_n require_v of_o the_o jew_n infant_n to_o seal_v in_o their_o infancy_n i_o reply_n say_v mr_n m._n but_o i_o hope_v you_o understand_v that_o the_o infant_n be_v seal_v in_o their_o infancy_n and_o by_o this_o they_o receive_v not_o only_o a_o privilege_n to_o be_v account_v as_o belong_v to_o god_n family_n but_o it_o also_o oblige_v they_o to_o the_o several_a duty_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o they_o grow_v up_o to_o be_v capable_a of_o perform_v they_o answer_n i_o understand_v the_o jew_n be_v circumcise_v in_o their_o infancy_n but_o that_o god_n do_v seal_v to_o every_o circumcise_a infant_n either_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o promise_n or_o his_o interest_n in_o they_o or_o that_o they_o do_v in_o infancy_n seal_v to_o god_n i_o do_v not_o yet_o understand_v for_o though_o they_o have_v the_o privilege_n mention_v yet_o not_o by_o virtue_n of_o god_n seal_v to_o they_o and_o though_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o the_o duty_n mention_v yet_o not_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o seal_n to_o god_n but_o mr._n bl._n and_o mr_n b._n be_v more_o earnest_n in_o this_o point_n and_o in_o opposition_n to_o what_o i_o say_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n 4._o sect._n 5._o in_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o letter_n mr._n bl._n ch_n 15._o assert_n sect._n 1_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v conditional_a not_o absolute_a sect._n 2._o the_o entrance_n into_o covenant_n and_o acceptation_n of_o the_o term_n of_o it_o be_v common_a to_o the_o elect_a and_o reprobate_a a_o heart_n steadfast_a in_o the_o covenant_n and_o the_o mercy_n of_o the_o conenant_n be_v proper_a only_o to_o the_o elect_a and_o regenerate_v sect._n 3_o to_o say_v that_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v conditional_a and_o that_o the_o reprobate_n be_v within_o the_o verge_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o tender_v in_o the_o gospel_n and_o accept_v be_v not_o to_o symbolize_v with_o arminian_n to_o which_o i_o reply_v in_o my_o postscript_n sect._n 21._o concern_v which_o mr._n bl._n in_o his_o plain_a scripture_n proof_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 224._o of_o the_o first_o edition_n say_v but_o to_o these_o mr._n bl._n have_v full_o answer_v mr_n t._n though_o in_o his_o apology_n he_o pass_v over_o much_o and_o be_v not_o able_a to_o discern_v his_o meaning_n for_o my_o part_n i_o speak_v impartial_o according_a to_o my_o judgement_n i_o think_v there_o be_v more_o true_a worth_n in_o those_o two_o or_o three_o leaf_n of_o mr._n blakes_n book_n in_o open_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o covenant_n than_o in_o all_o mr_n it_o be_v book_n that_o ever_o he_o write_v about_o baptism_n and_o pag._n 222._o he_o charge_v i_o with_o two_o error_n in_o apology_n and_o say_v of_o they_o i_o conceive_v these_o dangerous_a error_n of_o mr_n t._n about_o the_o nature_n of_o
turk_n out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o any_o in_o and_o of_o rome_n as_o tridentine_n and_o antichristian_a shall_v be_v save_v yet_o god_n may_v and_o sometime_o do_v and_o will_v have_v some_o soul_n bring_v on_o to_o he_o thence_o and_o even_o from_o among_o mahometan_n etc._n etc._n but_o all_o will_v yield_v i_o suppose_v that_o this_o be_v a_o extraordinary_a case_n and_o so_o cross_v not_o that_o rule_n that_o without_o even_o the_o visible_a church_n there_o be_v no_o salvation_n scil_n take_v the_o maxim_n in_o reference_n to_o ordinary_a time_n and_o with_o all_o to_o the_o ordinary_a course_n and_o w●y_a of_o attain_v unto_o salvation_n ans._n mr._n c._n his_o drift_n i_o conceive_v be_v to_o prove_v that_o if_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v not_o visible_a church-member_n they_o have_v no_o ordinary_a state_n and_o way_n of_o salvation_n and_o that_o the_o maxim_n be_v true_a that_o out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o reference_n to_o ordinary_a time_n and_o withal_o to_o the_o ordinary_a course_n and_o way_n of_o attainine_v unto_o salvation_n there_o be_v no_o salvation_n against_o which_o i_o oppose_v that_o if_o the_o maxim_n out_o of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v no_o sal●a●ion_n be_v understand_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n &_o the_o ordinary_a state_n &_o way_n of_o salvation_n it_o will_v as_o well_o concern_v mr._n c._n to_o show_v how_o child_n of_o believer_n endue_v with_o a_o reasonable_a soul_n and_o humane_a body_n yet_o still-born_a or_o die_a in_o their_o mother_n womb_n with_o she_o and_o never_o bear_v be_v provide_v for_o a_o ordinary_a way_n of_o salvation_n as_o well_o as_o for_o we_o concern_v infant_n bear_v alive_a i_o suppose_v they_o will_v not_o say_v infant_n die_v in_o their_o mother_n womb_n and_o there_o bury_v and_o never_o bring_v to_o light_n be_v visible_a member_n of_o the_o church_n who_o be_v never_o visible_a man_n nor_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v what_o ordinary_a way_n &_o state_n of_o salvation_n external_a have_v they_o more_o than_o mahometanes_n if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o have_v election_n the_o virtue_n of_o christ_n death_n the_o promise_n of_o god_n according_a to_o election_n the_o secret_a work_n of_o the_o spirit_n i_o grant_v it_o and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o infant_n live_v nor_o can_v it_o be_v certain_o and_o without_o doubt_n deny_v of_o papist_n and_o mahometans_n infant_n though_o i_o confess_v it_o be_v far_o more_o probable_a that_o oridnary_o god_n give_v these_o mean_n to_o infant_n of_o believer_n whether_o church_v or_o unchurch_v than_o to_o the_o infant_n of_o other_o and_o rather_o to_o the_o infant_n of_o true_a believer_n than_o 〈◊〉_d professor_n of_o faith_n yet_o i_o dare_v not_o determine_v certain_o thereof_o because_o of_o the_o express_a resolution_n of_o the_o apostle_n rom._n 9_o concern_v ishmael_n and_o esau_n and_o his_o reference_n thence_o v._n 15_o 16_o 18_o 20_o 21_o 22._o and_o if_o he_o count_v ●e_v certain_a there_o be_v no_o salvation_n out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o a_o ordinary_a way_n there_o be_v no_o ordinary_a way_n to_o estate_n infant_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o i_o grant_v not_o as_o well_o as_o he_o but_o baptism_n than_o he_o do_v as_o good_a as_o affirm_v that_o ordinary_o no_o infant_n be_v save_v without_o baptism_n which_o be_v either_o the_o popish_a tenant_n or_o not_o much_o shor●_n of_o it_o this_o will_v the_o more_o urge_v m._n c._n because_o he_o limit_n the_o promise_n to_o abraham_n visible_a church-seed_n in_o reference_n to_o church-covenant_n and_o i_o suppose_v they_o of_o n._n e._n baptize_v not_o infant_n of_o parent_n not_o inchurch_v what_o ordinary_a way_n of_o salvation_n have_v child_n of_o believer_n not_o inchurch_v who_o be_v not_o account_v visible_a church_n member_n when_o their_o parent_n be_v not_o and_o the_o like_a must_v be_v say_v of_o the_o child_n of_o excommunicate_a person_n of_o uncertain_a original_a apostate_n who_o be_v with_o they_o or_o some_o of_o they_o no_o visible_a church-member_n how_o be_v they_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o what_o provision_n be_v for_o they_o for_o my_o part_n i_o conceive_v that_o if_o the_o matter_n be_v impartial_o consider_v i_o think_v their_o doctrine_n be_v press_v with_o the_o like_a difficulty_n that_o i_o be_v i_o affirm_v that_o believer_n infant_n and_o infant_n of_o unbeliever_n if_o elect_v be_v certain_o save_v ordinary_o that_o be_v according_a to_o the_o constant_a course_n of_o god_n purpose_n by_o virtue_n of_o god_n promise_n christ_n death_n and_o the_o spirit_n secret_a work_n though_o they_o be_v neither_o baptize_v nor_o be_v visible_a church-member_n and_o i_o think_v they_o can_v say_v no_o more_o concern_v infant_n of_o believer_n die_v with_o the_o mother_n in_o the_o womb_n and_o never_o bring_v to_o light_n which_o be_v no_o unusual_a thing_n i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a because_o of_o general_a indefinite_a promise_n and_o frequent_a experience_n that_o the_o infant_n of_o believe_a parent_n be_v e●ect_a when_o the_o infant_n of_o infidel_n be_v not_o yet_o i_o can_v affirm_v they_o be_v elect_v because_o the_o promise_n be_v not_o universal_a to_o every_o believer_n infant_n yea_o if_o they_o be_v as_o pedobaptist_n will_v have_v they_o universal_a in_o respect_n of_o external_a privilege_n which_o be_v not_o true_a yet_o there_o can_v be_v no_o certainty_n of_o election_n and_o salvation_n infer_v thence_o and_o therefore_o though_o there_o be_v a_o better_a ground_n of_o hope_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o a_o believer_n infant_n than_o other_o yet_o in_o a_o question_n concern_v ●he_v certain●y_o of_o the_o event_n whether_o they_o be_v save_v or_o no_o i_o must_v suspend_v my_o judgement_n and_o leave_v it_o to_o god_n secret_a will_n have_v no_o rule_n reveal_v whereby_o to_o determine_v it_o if_o mr._n c._n assure_v any_o more_o i_o conceive_v he_o wiil_n deceive_v himself_o and_o other_o dr._n twiss_n animadvers_fw-la in_o corvin_n pag._n 35._o say_v thus_o ad_fw-la h●c_fw-la fortè_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la sententia_fw-la sunt_fw-la nostri_fw-la theologi_fw-la ut_fw-la propositum_fw-la dei_fw-la de_fw-la salvandis_fw-la fidelium_fw-la liberis_fw-la in_o infantili_fw-la aetate_fw-la morientibus_fw-la haud_fw-la liquido_fw-la satis_fw-la demonstrari_fw-la in_o sacris_fw-la literis_fw-la et_fw-la sanè_fw-la non_fw-la diffiteor_fw-la exitia_fw-la huius_fw-la rei_fw-la suppeditari_fw-la nobis_fw-la ex_fw-la sacris_fw-la li●eris_fw-la indi●i●_n quibus_fw-la tamen_fw-la acquiescimus_fw-la but_o mr_n c._n add_v such_o then_o as_o exclude_v all_o infant_n of_o believer_n one_o or_o other_o from_o the_o notion_n of_o abraham_n spiritual_a seed_n from_o covenant_n and_o church-estate_n they_o put_v they_o in_o the_o pagan_n gentiles_n estate_n 〈◊〉_d of_o which_o paul_n speak_v who_o be_v they_o and_o other_o stranger_n from_o the_o promise_n and_o covenant_n 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covenant_n therefore_o it_o be_v before_o the_o covenant_n and_o consequent_o the_o covenant_n not_o the_o cause_n 6_o if_o the_o covenant_n or_o law_n upon_o condition_n of_o the_o parent_n faith_n as_o the_o antecedent_n or_o cause_n without_o which_o the_o thing_n be_v not_o be_v as_o mr._n b._n say_v the_o cause_n of_o infant_n visible_a church_n membership_n the_o sole_a efficient_a than_o infant_n buy_v orphan_o of_o turk_n etc._n etc._n whole_o at_o our_o dispose_n be_v not_o visible_a church_n member_n for_o they_o have_v no_o covenant_n make_v to_o their_o parent_n nor_o do_v their_o parent_n believe_v but_o by_o mr._n bs._n doctrine_n pag._n 101._o where_o he_o will_v have_v they_o baptise_a they_o be_v visible_a churchmember_v for_o such_o only_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v ergo_fw-la the_o covenant_n be_v not_o the_o sole_a efficient_a there_o may_v be_v visible_a church_n membership_n without_o it_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o foundling_n person_n of_o unknown_a 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as_o that_o we_o must_v go_v no_o further_o in_o our_o count_n the_o great_a grandfather_n faith_n shall_v not_o infer_v the_o infant_n visible_a church-membership_a as_o well_o as_o the_o grandfather_n if_o there_o be_v no_o limit_n why_o this_o visible_a churchmembership_n shall_v not_o be_v common_a to_o all_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n yea_o to_o ●ll_o the_o world_n if_o the_o succession_n be_v break_v off_o upon_o the_o jew_n unbelief_n why_o not_o upon_o the_o unbelief_n of_o each_o ancestor_n 10._o if_o a_o infant_n visible_a churchmembership_n be_v by_o the_o covenant_n upon_o the_o parent_n actual_a believe_v and_o not_o a_o mere_a bare_a profession_n than_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o can_v be_v know_v because_o the_o parent_n actual_a believe_v be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a but_o that_o be_v absurd_a ergo._fw-la the_o major_a i_o have_v confirm_v more_o full_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o review_n sect_n 35._o 11._o if_o other_o christian_a privilege_n be_v not_o convey_v by_o a_o covenant_n upon_o the_o parent_n faith_n without_o the_o person_n own_o act_n or_o consent_n than_o neither_o this_o but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a the_o child_n be_v not_o a_o believer_n a_o disciple_n a_o minister_n a_o son_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n without_o his_o own_o consent_n ergo._fw-la the_o consequence_n of_o the_o major_n be_v confirm_v in_o that_o there_o be_v like_a reason_n for_o they_o as_o for_o this_o 12._o if_o there_o be_v no_o law_n or_o ordinance_n of_o god_n unrepealed_a by_o which_o either_o this_o infant_n visible_a christian_a churchmembership_n be_v grant_v or_o the_o li_n of_o infant_n or_o enter_v into_o the_o visible_a church_n christian_n be_v make_v a_o duty_n then_o that_o be_v not_o a_o cause_n of_o infant_n visible_a churchmembership_n which_o mr._n b._n assign_v but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o law_n or_o ordinance_n unrepealed_a ergo._fw-la if_o there_o be_v it_o be_v either_o by_o precept_n or_o other_o declaration_n but_o 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