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A18003	A discourse, concerning two diuine positions The first [ef]fectually concluding, that the soules of the faithfull fathers, deceased before Christ, went immediately to heauen. The second sufficientlye setting foorth vnto vs Christians, what we are to conceiue, touching the descension of our Sauiour Christ into hell: publiquely disputed at a commencement in Cambridge, anno Domini 1552. Purposely written at the first by way of a confutation, against a booke of Richard Smith of Oxford, D. of Diuinity, entitled a Refutation, imprinted 1562, & published against Iohn Caluin, & C. Carlile: the title wherof appeareth in ye 17. page. And now first published by the said Christopher Carlile, 1582.	Carlile, Christopher, d. 1588?	1582 (1582)	STC 4654; ESTC S107537	141,619	356

in an other lyfe whiche when Cayne hearde hee slewe him forthwyth Ambrose also doth affirme that GOD hearethe the deade because they lyue wyth hym and doe reste in hys Pallaice hee callethe Abell the Prince Capitaine and way leader of Christian men And shall we saye then that the captaine is in worser state then y e soldiour the prince in worser case then the subiect so dothe Ambrose call him And to y e same effect doth it tende which is written in the 6. chapiter of the Reuelat. wheras the soules lying vnder the aulter apparayled in white garments saye Olorde holy and iuste how longe wilte thon tarry to auenge our bloud Amonge whom was Habel desiring the resurrection And so was Enoch as affirmeth Salomon in the booke of wisdome the 4. chapter saying these wordes Enoch because he pleased god was caried into paradise an example of good life vnto the worldes to come When he pleased god he was beloued and for that he liued amonge the wicked he was rapt vp least he shuld by their peruersity haue bene seduced Ther are in y e same place many goodly sentences which declare y ● faithful after their death furth with to receyue felicitye and the wicked or vnfaithfull misery Paule also proueth y e same Enoch saithe he was translated or taken vp from deathe to life or dyed not at all for before his translation it is written of him that he pleased god whiche for to do without faithe is impossible Thus you must nedes beleue you that will go vnto god that thee is a god that doth recōpense the faithfull and suche as loue him Wherfore it is euident that Enoch ascended into heauen Iosephus affirmeth the same Yet I know that there are some of the hebrue Doctors as Esra who taketh his translation from deathe for his deathe onely and not for any assumption howbeit the hebrue worde signifiethe not onely to take away by deathe but also to receiue vnto himselfe as god did Enoch Pselly a gréeke author affirmeth that he did flye vp into a heauenly place So is there a great nomber which affirme that he went into Abrahams bosome and into the same place whether Christ his body went Isodorus saythe that he was the 7. from Adam because that all men in the beginninge of the 7. thowsande yeare should enioye the same felicity which he did then And all the Latins in a manner saye that he went into heauen least it should haue bene thought that the fathers soules should haue bene in hell or detayned in lasye limbus Chrisostome Ephrem with other of the gréekes affirme that he is in a fortunate place Thus far of Enoch And the same I do iudge of Enos Seth Lamech Noac Sem and all the rest of the faythfull fathers whose faythe conuayed thē vp into immortallity Nowe let vs heare and mark what god sayth vnto Abraham Thou shalt sayth god go vnto thine elders and people quietly and be buried in a florishing●… age which is as muche to say when thou art dead thy soule shall spedily ascende into heauen among thine elders where it shall lyue in the abundance of ioyes Wherefore they who contend and affirme that there is no place in y e bookes of Moyses whereby the immortalitye of the soule can be proued are greatly to be blamed for it is euident of this place that the soul went vnto ioy for he said whē thou shalt dye and go vnto thin●… elders First y ● soules go vnto their elders whiche are all the faithfull Fathers and then is the bodye buryed If you should vnderstand yt of his sepulcher which is at Hebrō where he was buried in the double caue y ● ys false for ther was none of his elders buryed nor none of his familiars his wyfe Sara onely excepted thē he should haue sayd y ● shalt go vnto thy wife Sara not to thy elders if you vnderstād it of his ●…arnal fathers Thara Nachor they moste abhominable Idolatoures wherfore he ment not vnto them then must he meane those faithful men before recited who exercised the same fayth y ● hee did beleued in the same Christ. For by faythe he possessed Cananye subdued tyrantes offred Isaac and obteyned euerlasting felicitie for faith bringeth saluation as Prodromus saith in these verses which I translated out of the greeke tounge O holye faith sound perfect and pure Which of saluation doest man assure Or thus O constant faith pure and not fained Whereby euerlasting life is ob tayned God made first a Couenaunt with Adam promisinge the Seede that should tread downe the Serpentes head v●…to Noat he promised quietnes with the Rainbowe vnto Abraham hee promised the Lande of Canaan and immortalitye none of these did doubt of any thing but did beleeue the promiser Paul by their example perswded men to beleeue and thereby to obteine euerlasting lyfe And if we that are their Children doe hope by fayth to haue the fruition of God his presence how vnkynde are wee to depriue our fathers therof including them in the darke dungeon of Hell or Limbus spoylinge theym of all Ioye and Glorie Abraham is called in the Scriptures the father of all the faithful and was he then in woorse state then his children When hee had lyued 175. yeres hee departed vnto his Elders and people that is as Caietanus affir●…eth into the sweete and pleasant ●…asie of felicitye which God hath ●…repared for his elect from the beginninge hee is gathered vnto his ●…athers This Metaphor is thus ●…o bee applied that as the husband ●…an doth gather his corne into his Barne so God gathreth his faithfull seruantes into his heauenly habitation as Christ doth witnes saing that the chaffe which is the wickedshalbe burned but the corn which are his faithfull he will laye or gether it into his barne which is heauen He died saith the scripture in a pleasante age such an age such a reward soloweth such a death such a life such labor such ioyes The interlyned glose with the ordinary Strabus and also Angustine place Abraham sometime amonge the angels in y e mount Sion in the citty of the liuing God in the celestiall Ierusalem amonge the cōpany of th●… innumerable augels in the congregation of y e first born sonnes which are written in heauen sometime 〈◊〉 God the Iudge of all men among the spirites of perfect men and 〈◊〉 Iesus Christ the mediator of th●… newe testament Ambrose sayth 〈◊〉 Caietanus that this phrase of th●… gethering to his elderes can in n●… wise be referred vnto the body but vnto the soule The like is verified of Moses and Aron in Deut. 32. He that beleued as Abraham did and like wyse liued as he liued can inhabyte none other place then very heauen this city this countrye this kingdome and this inheritance is promised and ys proper and common

familiarity wher be all aungels blessed soules y e voyces of archangels y ● brightnes of y ● holy ghost Christ his kingdome the glorious maiesty of y e father Gregory Nazianzen placeth thē amonge y ● aungels Philo in a celestiall place free from all corruptiō Eusebius called them christians therfore to receue y e reward of christianity Iosephus beeinge one of them y e fled into y e caue at the siege at Iotopata whē they woulde haue slaine themselues rather thē to haue endured the famine and to come out to the Romaines he exhorteth them not to slay them selues vntill God should call theyr Soules vp vnto himselfe Sybill Erythrea whome some saye was Noac his Daughter in lawe termeth all the faythful to be christians in these verses Of Christes stock sayth she we came Therfore of Christ we haue the name Receiue with me the religiō of y ● same And by cause certaine of the latins as Lactantius Tertullian Bernard and one Iohn a by●…shop of Rome who was after christ 1315 yeres w t certaine of the grekes as Ireneus Chrisostome ●…uthinius Iustinus Mart●…e Oecumenius and Aretha do deny that any man is rewarded vntill the last day therfore can not their autorities preuayle in this case againste the truthe S. Augustine was like an Academicall waueringe to and froe yet in this poynte in his 99 Epistle hath these wordes I affirme sayeth he that Christ coulde bringe no goodnes to those that were in Abrahams bosome who had his diuinitye continually present with them And of 〈◊〉 truthe Lazarus was in Abraham●… bosome before Christes deathe H●… also calleth y e riche mans graue he●… and Abrahams bosome the blessed mans rest the kingdome of heauē y e paradise of the these and vpon y e 11. of Iohn hee is verye plaine in this matter Hierome condemneth Vigilantius partelye because hee would not place y e soules of y t faithful in heauē w t Christ but in an honest prisō in Abrahās bosom a place solace vnder y e aulter of god in the fortunate yles or in the fieldes of pleasure S. Cyprian saythe who would not feare death if ther should be no pleasure after this life He citethe many scriptures to proue the soules of y e faithfull to be in heaueu imediately after they depart out of this life S. Ambrose bringeth the Christians from Ha bell proueth by marueilous many scriptures in his booke entituled De bono mortis y ● all y ● soules of the faythfull ascēded by by after their death Now shal I alleadge the opinions of the philosophers wherby it shall appeare vnto the good reader y ● although y ● they knewe not God as they ought to haue done yet cōceued they a better opiniō of y e immortallyty of the soules of the iust then do our Romishe catholiques not knowing God as they ought had a better iudgment of his equity as Plato in Phedon Phedro Gorgias Timeus with all his sect who apoynt a place in heauen for all the iust so doth Demosthenes Calamus a phiolospher of Iudea saith oh what a worthy death is this that when the body is buried the soule shall go into light also Cirus as Zenophon and Cicero reporte calleth it a blessed daye when he shoulde go vp into the company of the godly And Tully saith that who so haue saued their coūtry and encreased the same haue a place apoynted for thē in heauen Seneca also saith do not enuy thy brother he shall rest he is safe and immortall he enioyeth the free and open heauen he hath escaped out of this vile place in to an high excellent place which receiue the the soules into a blessed bosome where he is nowe at liberty and hath receiued all goodnes withe greate pleasure thy brother hathe not lost the light but hathe obtayned a more perfecte ●…yght why do we lament his destiny he hathe not forsaken vs but is gone before vs and in another place he sayth deathe which we so feare chaungeth life but doth not destroye it vtterly for the day will come which shall restore yt agayn The soule doth suffer sorrowes great while it is in this earthly cage Sondered ascendeth to Gods seate free from all anguish payne age The Chalde Oracle affirmethe the ●…oules of the good to goe vnto god ●…n these verses ●…t is for thy commoditye ●…o hast to god the perfit lyght Of whom thou hast mind soule lyfe Power breath defence strength ayd might Euripides hathe these verses also tendinge to the same effecte The soules of suche as leaue this lyfe not onely streight immortall be In perfecte peace voide of all strife But also doe their sauiour see The bodye laied is vnder grounde the soule in heauen grace hath found The soule ascendethe vnto God the bodye lieth vnder a clodde Three vertues thou must exercise Feare God thy parents doe obay Thy country lawes see thou practise the crowne of Glory haue alwaye Palladas When that the soule departeth henc●… It ascendethe to the presence of God immortall for defence Lucretius thoughe an Epicure That which frō earth groūd did com shall to the earthe descende That which frō heauē aboue did come shall vp againe ascende Manilius No man doth doubt but that our soules did from the heauens come And shall ascend thyther againe to thier ould seate and roome Antipater Sidonius in Laert. 7. in Zeno. Zeno the flower of his countrye is dead and layd in graue His soule vnto the starres is gone Whiche God dothe kepe saue Laertius in Solon lib. 1. Salamis did contayne the bones of Solon as wee reade His soule into the heauenly throne was caried withe speede Laertius Lib. 2. in Anaxagor Anaxagoras lyethe heere his soule with god doth dwell Steucus lib. 8. Cap. 17. The soules about god stand●… on left hande on righte Beholdynge his fayre face desirous of that syghte CHRIST DESCENDED NOT INTO HEL NETHER in body nor in soule IF CHRISTE descended into Hel either he must descende in Body or in Soule or in his Godheade or in all but in Bo●…ye hee did not for it laye in the graue three dayes as these places in the margent do testifye More●…uer a body that is deade without ●…enses without life without soule ●…an neither descende nor ascende ●…oue stirre or ryse but all the ●…ime that it lay in the graue it was ●…estitute and depryued of all these wherfore y ● body could not descend ●…houghe some affirme the contrary neither coulde his soule descende Could that descende whiche did as●…end or that descend into hell that was in paradise in felicity in the ●…ingdme of God But Christe his ●…oule was in heauen euen so soone as yt departed out of the bodye As for his godhead it can

the dead were there any dead in hell if they were dead what did Christ among them but you say that they were a liue the Crede saith y ● the were dead to who he descended and from whence he rose The Soul●… dye not then it folowethe y e hée rose from the bodyes that were dead and not from them that liued If his Soule went to hell whether went it before the body was buried or after If before why saithe the Crede that it went after But if it went at all it must nedes go immediatly so sone as it departed out of the body which was vpon the crosse and at three of the clocke at after noone for the body was buried two or thrée houres after about six of the clocke or a litell before Where was the Soule all that while if it had gone to hell why did not the Crede place it before his buryall for euery mans Soule is placed either in heauen or hell before the body be buried Wherefore sayth ERASMVS hée was no artificer but some cobler or patcher that placed it soo preposterously that patched it soo vndecently that set it so disorderly iu suche a place as it nether a gree●… with the sentence before nor aft●… Augustinus affirmeth that Ch●… did them no pleasure that were Abrahams bosome whiche had ●… wayes the Diuinity and the ho●… Ghost present with them and th●… Lazarus rested in that bosome 〈◊〉 fore Christes death which he 〈◊〉 leth the rest of the poore man 〈◊〉 kingdome of God and the Par●… dise of y e thefe which he dareth 〈◊〉 call any parte of hell nether to 〈◊〉 taken in the good parte notwi●… standing he maketh difference b●… twene that eternall life which 〈◊〉 Angells enioy and that rest Wh●… the fathers before Christ had Aug. saith that y e solues are in 〈◊〉 Sed non in ea actione qua corpore 〈◊〉 cepta vegetantur Tom. 2. pag. 570 epist. lib. cap. 12. They are in pleas●… seates till the resurrection Tom. 3 pag. 472. de Trinita 15. cap. 25. 〈◊〉 saith vpon the 36. psalm that w●… shall not be there where the saintes shalbe to whō it shalbe said Come you blessed and possesse the kinge●…ome prepared from the beginning of the worlde there thou shalt not ●…e saith he who doth not knowe ●…ut thou maiste be there where the proude barren riche man in middest of tormentes did sée the poore man resting on highe Thou beinge placed in that rest thou doest safely loke for the day●… of iudgement when thou shalt receiue thy body when thou shalt be changed on suche sorte that thou maist be equall with Angells In such like state as thou departest out of this life in such like thou shalt bee restored againe to life The soule saith Augustine all the tyme betwene their departure and the resurrection are reserued in hid places according as they deserued whiles they liued nether to rest or misery The Soules of the iust are in Abrahams bosome the wicked are tormented in hell The iust are in rest the wicked tormentes All mens Soules saith Augusti●… Tom. 3. de Eclesi Dog c. 77. c. 7●… before Christ were in hell af●… they are with Christ. How a greeth this with the wor●… before where ●…e saith that all 〈◊〉 iust werein rest in Abraham bos●…me in solace and ioye If the bosome of Abraham be a 〈◊〉 crete place of the father as August saith whither Christ ascended afte●… his passion why was it not 〈◊〉 same before was it remoued 〈◊〉 suche an Immortall place 〈◊〉 remoued can it bee altered or em●… tyed Smith Christ saith Ignatius in 〈◊〉 second Epistle Descendit ad 〈◊〉 num solus He descended to hell alone but he ascended with a multitude Carlil In these fewe worde●… there are two manyfeste Erro●… ●…irst you saye that these woordes ●…re in his seconde epistle when as ●…hey are in his firste epistle to the Trallians Notwithstanding I thinke it is ●…o greate offence to alleadge one e●…istle for an other but it is an in●…ollerable errour to falsefy an holye ●…nans writing as you do for Igna●…ius meaned that Christ was buri●…d and with him manye bodies did ●…yle he saith not that many soules ●…id rise with him neither is there ●…ny resurrection of the soul. Ignatius wordes are these Accor●…ing to his owne will hee was trulye ●…rucified and truly dead heauenly ●…hinges earthy and thinges vnder ●…he earth beholding it the heauen●…ye as incorporall creatures the ear●…y as the Iewes and Romanes and ●…ther men who were then present ●…hē Christ was crucified they vn●…er the earth being a greate multi●…ude did rise with the lord for many saith Mathew bodyes of sainte which were a sleepe rose with 〈◊〉 out of their graues which were 〈◊〉 open 27. chapt He descended 〈◊〉 Haden into his graue alone but 〈◊〉 cended with a multitude and 〈◊〉 the wall which was of olde 〈◊〉 midde wall hee dissolued and 〈◊〉 the thirde daye his father rai●… him and after certaine dayes wh●… in he was conuersaunt with the Apostles hee was taken vpp to his father and sitteth at his right hande there remaining till his ennemie be putte vnder his feete as a foote stoole Wherfore on Friday at three of the clocke hee receiued sentence of Pilate his father permitting it The sixt houre he was crucified The ninth he expyred Before the sunne was sette hee was taken downe from the crosse and was buryed in a newe Sepulchre The Saturdaye hee was in the ●…aue vnder the earth where Ioseph 〈◊〉 Arimathia had laid him In the Lordes day he rose from 〈◊〉 deade according to that which ●…as prophecied of him As Ionas 〈◊〉 in the be llye of the whale three ●…s and three nightes so shall the 〈◊〉 of man be in the hart of the ●…arthe 〈◊〉 dayes and three nights The day of preparation contay●…th his passiō the sabaoth his bu●…al and rest the Lordes day his re●…urrection Thus far faithfully translated out 〈◊〉 Ignatius Nowe M. Smith consider your ●…ause expende better your allegati●…s let not your wilful negligence ●…ue men occasion to speake euill of ●…de authours ignorance is to bee ●…edressed with knowledge negligence by diligence Smith Clemens Alexandrinus ●…mmediatelye after the Apostles writeth that Christ descended 〈◊〉 hell Carlil Clemens Alexandri●… hath this errour amonge manye ●…thers that y ● fathers before 〈◊〉 that liued vertuously were 〈◊〉 fied either by the lawe or by P●…losophy but to haue beene witho●… faithe in Christe and therefore 〈◊〉 Hell to haue taried and looked 〈◊〉 the descending of Christe and 〈◊〉 Apostles by whose preaching●… there they were conuerted and 〈◊〉 leued in Christ so saued Stro●… 5. 6. These errours are so prodigi●… that he is madd that would affi●… them Howe coulde they bee iustifi●… by the lawe

in the which places is Sheol which he translateth Inferos and vnderstandeth all these places of y ● resurrection of Christ neither can Lactantius neither dothe hee in anye place approue the descendinge into hell Can he say that Christ descended into hell y ● saith y ● there are but 2. places out of this life heauen and hell which shall be fylled with the iust and vniust at the last daye in the mean tyme no soule is iudged for they are all both good and euill kepte in one safe custodye till our ●…iuiour CHRIST shall come and iudge them If from the crea●… on they are all in one place no●… thence deliuered till the laste da●… Then if Christ had gone thither 〈◊〉 could not haue deliuered them w●… by Lactantius shall not come ou●… till the last day Neither did Lactantius dreame ●… any time of the descēding of Christ into Hell Galatinus saith that ther is no man holy vntill he be dead If he be hol●… and a saint when he is deade the●… were all the Faithfull of the 〈◊〉 Testament saintes and saued by ●… same Fayth that we haue for the●… and we haue all eate●… one foode ●…●…ronken of one kinde of drinke an●…●…epende vppon one Rocke euen Christe Galatinus semeth to be repugnant to himselfe for he saieth ●… al went to hel before Christs death He alledgeth out of a rotten Rabin●… called Iehosua that hell hath seue●… names and truthe it i●… that nous of those Seauen y●… the Hell where the damned soules are Neither accordinge to their Phan●…sticall dreames Limbus and Hell where infants are damned neither ●…here y ● fathers of the old testamēt 〈◊〉 nether purgatory as Iproue in this discourse The first is Sheol ●… that signifieth hell he citeth ●… 16. Psalme which I translate Thou shalt not forsake or leaue my bodye in the graue which I haue expounded before Abadon is the second name and in no place signifieth hell or any part of Hell but eyther the Graue ●…or Center or places in the earthe or anye thing●… that is loste and ioyned with Deathe for after deathe ●…oloweth the graue as in Iob. 26. 6. Iob. 28. 32. 31. 12. it is taken for y e graue and for that thinge that corrupteth in the Earthe as in Psal. 88. 12. the same thinge and Graue and is so called Psalme 88. verse 4. and in the 5. verse the Sepulcher and the Graue in the Sixte verse it is in solace the one in Abrahams besome full of Felicitye the other in Hell ful of misery and intollerable tormentes I haue a little before declared that Sheoll signifieth in the death of Iacob and Semoi onely the graue a●… the best Interpretors do translate Pagnine Munster Vatablus an●… as Chrisostome Photius and Theodoret expounde it writing vpon Paul Auenesra an Hebrue Doctor reproueth Onchelus for translating Sheol Geenna And Steuchus Library keper to Paule the Thirde Pope of that name inueyghethe againste Lyra saying that all those thinges are Dreames to deceyue and olde Wiues Fables to Blinde the simple People whiche hee wrytethe vpon liying Limbu●… or in sending Iacob to Hell whereas the Hebrue worde Sheol properly signifieth the Graue Augustine saithe that these are the woordes of Iacob to expresse his griefe notwithstanding he is variable Let vs repeate euerye place where Sheoll is founde in the Hebrewe Texte and proue by the Nature of the Worde propertye of the Phrase course of the Texte a●…alogye of the Scripture and Conference of the places where the Hebrue worde is founde what it is and how it oughte to be translated Where Dathan Core and Abiron withe their Confederates whiche were two Hundrethe and Fiftye murmured againste Moses and Aaron are sayd to descende into hell as the Latine Tranlation hathe it is not so to be translated It is an absurdity to call the earthe Hell or hell the earth Wherefore Sheol is here the earth which serued the sedetious Rebells for their graue And so is this place plainlier vttered in Ps. 106. ●…e 17. And after this sense Caietanus Fō●… seca Steuchus and Lyra though●… 〈◊〉 Catholique●… are compel●… led to expounde this place as I do●… Is it ●…ble that their bodyes their Namelies their goodes their substaunce tentes horses shéepe ●… or●…n descended into hell Dothe not the texte saye that they went all one waye hathe Sata●… anye néede of tentes can corporall thinges be in a spirituall place are there any bodyes in hell before the last day●… The hellhoundes néede no shepe n●… mutton to eate nor horses to ryd●… no apparell to put on for they are spirites and therefore néede none Wherefore Sheol is y ●earth in this place which swalowed them vp ●… closed them within it Neither dothe Augustine saye that they descended into hell but that y ● earth opened and deuoured them Here is ●…o be noted sayth the same Augustine y ● hell is here taken for the earth whither they did s●…nke For ●…nfernus is vsed as the sense re●…uirethe and here it signifiethe the inferiour pattes of the earth pro●…erlye spoken of the dead se muche Augustine with more ●…here God is so sore offended w t the Israelites for their Idolatry he saythe that his Anger is kindeled that hee will burne the bottome of hell ●…o dothe the Bible at Geneua translate Sheol If the bottome of Hell be burned and consumed with fyre then there is no hell It is in Hebrue vnto the earth beneath This Phrase signifieth the inferior partes of the earth Moses addeth y ● Epitheton bottom or inferiour to declare y ● vehemency of the wrath of God in punishīg the offendors as who saye that he woulde soo plague them that not ●…nclye the Superiour pa●…te of the Earthe shoulde bée Burned but also the inferior and inward parts where the springs are which shou●… be dryed vp the veynes of the 〈◊〉 so consumed that they shoulde neither yeelde Siluer Gold Tin●… Copper Yr●…n Leade or any 〈◊〉 ther Mineralles It is not like that a materiall F●… which is here n●…med should 〈◊〉 Spirituall thinges Neither can●… Hell bee consumed which place 〈◊〉 appointed for euer to burne 〈◊〉 tuallye the Deuill his Aungell●… Ministers This Fire continued for a seaso●… the other for euer This Fyre 〈◊〉 ned the earth the other the dan●… ned Soule●… This burned the 〈◊〉 dations of the Mountaynes 〈◊〉 ther the Hellhoundes This 〈◊〉 women and children with hung●… the other Sathans children Can a visible thinge burne an in●… uisible a worldly Fyre a Spiri●… all a fire sensible such as are 〈◊〉 to no senses wherefore this plac●… Deuteronomye is vnderstanded●… ●… fyre of such affliction of such tormentes and plagues as the Israe●…tes did suffer For God plagued ●…hem then liuing and not the dead There did God plague where the Israelites