build_n but_o as_o it_o be_v last_o invent_v for_o none_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n for_o a_o thousand_o year_n and_o more_o ever_o hear_v of_o it_o so_o you_o have_v do_v well_o to_o thrust_v it_o unto_o the_o last_o end_n of_o your_o book_n and_o first_o you_o begin_v with_o a_o objection_n upon_o your_o own_o ground_n that_o for_o answer_v of_o god_n justice_n there_o remain_v a_o temporal_a pain_n after_o sin_n remit_v but_o because_o the_o objection_n be_v such_o as_o you_o be_v never_o able_a to_o answer_v so_o well_o your_o principle_n of_o popery_n hang_v one_o upon_o another_o you_o cover_v the_o hard_a point_n and_o will_v not_o let_v it_o appear_v namely_o that_o god_n justice_n require_v punishment_n of_o the_o party_n himself_o that_o offend_v for_o satisfy_v his_o justice_n which_o be_v not_o satisfy_v by_o the_o death_n and_o obedience_n of_o christ_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a then_o can_v there_o be_v no_o remission_n by_o any_o other_o mean_n save_v the_o justice_n of_o god_n but_o by_o the_o party_n own_o suffering_n yet_o let_v we_o see_v how_o you_o avoid_v the_o objection_n io_o favourablie_o set_v down_o for_o your_o seife_n to_o answer_v you_o say_v that_o god_n justice_n be_v otherwise_o satisfy_v by_o the_o abundant_a satisfaction_n make_v by_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n and_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o saint_n if_o this_o be_v true_a then_o be_v the_o other_o principle_n false_a that_o god_n justice_n require_v temporal_a punishment_n of_o the_o party_n for_o the_o recompense_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n and_o saint_n merit_n be_v not_o the_o party_n own_o punishment_n wherefore_o as_o in_o the_o objection_n you_o run_v from_o christ_n most_o perfect_a satisfaction_n so_o in_o the_o answer_n you_o run_v from_o the_o objection_n which_o be_v no_o answer_n or_o satisfaction_n the_o scripture_n be_v plain_a that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n purge_v we_o from_o all_o sin_n and_o christ_n by_o one_o oblation_n have_v make_v perfect_a for_o ever_o 9_o those_o that_o be_v sanctify_v he_o have_v once_o enter_v into_o the_o holy_a place_n by_o his_o own_o blood_n and_o find_v eternal_a redemption_n the_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n the_o purge_n of_o unrightcousnes_n the_o perfect_a of_o the_o saint_n and_o everlasting_a redemption_n can_v abide_v no_o reservation_n of_o punishment_n either_o temporal_a or_o eternal_a in_o which_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n be_v through_o answer_v by_o the_o obedience_n and_o suffer_v of_o christ_n who_o stripe_n have_v heal_v we_o there_o remain_v no_o suffering_n of_o our_o part_n for_o satisfy_v of_o his_o justice_n and_o you_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o sufficient_a value_n in_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o take_v away_o of_o all_o temporal_a punishment_n if_o it_o be_v well_o apply_v by_o the_o pope_n so_o that_o christ_n redemption_n be_v but_o a_o power_n of_o redeem_v and_o not_o a_o act_n of_o redemption_n &_o a_o power_n depend_v upon_o the_o will_n of_o man_n to_o apply_v according_a to_o his_o pleasure_n as_o you_o be_v wont_a to_o speak_v and_o not_o according_a to_o god_n determination_n and_o eternal_a election_n and_o so_o you_o rob_v christ_n of_o the_o effect_n of_o his_o death_n &_o passion_n by_o which_o he_o obtain_v eternal_a redemption_n for_o all_o god_n elect_v to_o enrich_v the_o pope_n with_o a_o treasure_n infinite_a and_o unspendable_a for_o that_o word_n youlent_a i_o before_o which_o he_o may_v bestow_v and_o dispense_v at_o his_o pleasure_n but_o let_v we_o a_o little_a enter_v into_o your_o storehouse_n &_o see_v what_o treasure_n there_o be_v and_o how_o you_o come_v by_o it_o first_o you_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o infinite_a ability_n and_o the_o inestimable_a value_n of_o every_o drop_n of_o christ_n blood_n etc._n etc._n to_o satisfy_v all_o debt_n due_a for_o all_o sin_n and_o all_o pain_n for_o the_o same_o and_o yet_o you_o allow_v to_o the_o act_n and_o effect_n of_o his_o bloody_a sacrifice_n the_o value_n but_o of_o half_a a_o drop_n deny_v the_o same_o to_o have_v satisfy_v god_n justice_n for_o temporal_a pain_n all_o the_o rest_n you_o claim_v for_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n which_o dream_n be_v never_o hard_a of_o before_o the_o jubilee_n grant_v by_o boneface_v the_o 8._o in_o the_o gloss_n whereof_o it_o be_v first_o devise_v where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o pardon_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n and_o take_v out_o of_o it_o passio_fw-la namque_fw-la christi_fw-la excessiva_fw-la fuit_fw-la unde_fw-la &_o excessus_fw-la voco_fw-la in_o luca_n ubi_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o transfiguratione_fw-la christi_fw-la apparuerunt_fw-la moses_n &_o elias_n cùm_fw-la eo_fw-la &_o dicebans_fw-la excessum_fw-la quem_fw-la completurus_fw-la erat_fw-la in_o jerusalem_n unica_fw-la enim_fw-la guita_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la tam_fw-la preciost_fw-la suffecisset_fw-la pro_fw-la redemptione_n totiu_fw-la mundi_fw-la nam_fw-la propter_fw-la coniunctionem_fw-la humanitatis_fw-la cùm_fw-la divinitate_fw-la 〈◊〉_d passio_fw-la christi_fw-la perpessa_fw-la pro_fw-la redemptione_n nostra_fw-la habebat_fw-la precium_fw-la infinitum_fw-la noluit_fw-la autem_fw-la christus_fw-la quod_fw-la excessus_fw-la icy_a frustra_fw-la fuisset_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la de_fw-la nihilo_fw-la nobis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sed_fw-la volait_fw-fr quod_fw-la esset_fw-la thesaurus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la per_fw-la suum_fw-la vicarium_fw-la ro_n pontificem_fw-la pro_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la loco_fw-la &_o tempore_fw-la dispensandus_fw-la dispensatur_fw-la autem_fw-la cum_fw-la eye_n indulgentiae_fw-la conceduntur_fw-la for_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n be_v excessive_a whereof_o also_o in_o saint_n luke_n it_o be_v call_v a_o excess_n where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o in_o the_o transfiguration_n of_o christ_n appear_v moses_n and_o elias_n with_o he_o and_o they_o speak_v of_o the_o excess_n which_o he_o shall_v fullfil_v at_o jerusalem_n for_o one_o drop_n of_o so_o precious_a blood_n may_v have_v suffice_v for_o the_o redemption_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n for_o because_o of_o the_o conjunction_n of_o the_o humanity_n with_o the_o divinity_n never_o so_o small_a a_o suffering_n of_o christ_n suffer_v for_o our_o redemption_n have_v a_o infinite_a price_n but_o christ_n will_v not_o that_o this_o excess_n shall_v be_v in_o vain_a and_o that_o it_o shall_v serve_v we_o for_o nothing_o but_o he_o will_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v the_o treasure_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v bestow_v by_o his_o vicar_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n in_o time_n and_o place_n for_o the_o faithful_a and_o it_o be_v bestow_v when_o pardon_n be_v grant_v to_o they_o mark_v upon_o what_o text_n this_o treasure_n be_v ground_v and_o how_o clarke_o it_o be_v expound_v moses_n and_o elias_n talk_v with_o christ_n of_o his_o departure_n out_o of_o this_o life_n which_o he_o shall_v finish_v at_o jerusalem_n this_o departure_n be_v term_v in_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o latin_a excessum_fw-la this_o doctor_n interprete_v to_o be_v a_o excess_n or_o superfluity_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n the_o overplus_n whereof_o lest_o it_o shall_v be_v in_o vain_a and_o serve_v for_o nothing_o be_v make_v the_o treasure_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v dispense_v by_o the_o pope_n but_o who_o will_v grant_v such_o excess_n or_o superfluity_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n as_o you_o imagine_v or_o that_o never_o so_o small_a a_o suffering_n of_o christ_n have_v be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o redemption_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n which_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v see_v christ_n from_o his_o infancy_n snffer_v many_o thing_n for_o we_o every_o one_o of_o they_o may_v have_v be_v our_o redemption_n and_o so_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n death_n be_v unnecessary_a for_o our_o redemption_n so_o that_o his_o blood_n shed_v in_o his_o circumcision_n and_o much_o more_o in_o his_o scourge_v &_o crown_v with_o thorn_n have_v be_v infinite_o more_o they_o enough_o although_o he_o have_v not_o suffer_v death_n and_o shed_v his_o blood_n on_o the_o cross_n again_o as_o it_o do_v most_o excellentlie_o set_v forth_o the_o justice_n and_o mercy_n of_o god_n to_o the_o everlasting_a comfort_n of_o the_o faithful_a that_o christ_n by_o his_o obedience_n and_o suffering_n do_v most_o perfect_o satisfy_v the_o one_o and_o most_o plentifullie_o purchase_v the_o other_o to_o the_o eternal_a redemption_n and_o everlasting_a felicity_n of_o all_o god_n elect_v so_o it_o be_v against_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n that_o he_o shall_v require_v that_o his_o son_n shall_v suffer_v infinitlie_o more_o than_o be_v needful_a to_o answer_v his_o justice_n &_o work_v a_o perfect_a redemption_n as_o this_o glossary_a dream_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n treasure_n do_v imagine_v neither_o do_v the_o argument_n of_o the_o conjunction_n of_o the_o humanity_n with_o the_o divinity_n prove_v any_o such_o matter_n but_o if_o that_o be_v grant_v by_o what_o scripture_n be_v the_o infinite_a overplus_n make_v a_o treasure_n of_o
such_o lenity_n so_o light_o regard_v nay_o so_o tragical_o inveigh_v against_o as_o most_o barbarus_fw-la cruelty_n deserve_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n and_o man_n more_o sharp_a and_o yet_o but_o just_a entertainment_n you_o exclude_v we_o say_v you_o from_o speech_n conference_n writing_n print_v dispute_v or_o any_o other_o due_a trial_n of_o our_o cause_n still_o you_o will_v have_v your_o cause_n to_o be_v religion_n when_o it_o be_v high_a treason_n and_o as_o for_o trial_n due_a for_o treason_n be_v never_o deny_v you_o before_o you_o be_v condemn_v for_o it_o as_o for_o speech_n conference_n writing_n print_v dispute_v for_o trial_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n when_o you_o will_v permit_v to_o be_v free_a in_o place_n of_o popish_a regiment_n you_o may_v expostulate_v with_o we_o for_o not_o allow_v you_o the_o same_o in_o this_o christian_a state_n of_o government_n but_o what_o extremity_n soever_o we_o use_v we_o be_v sure_a say_v you_o always_o to_o be_v answer_v by_o one_o mean_n or_o a_o other_o it_o may_v be_v as_o you_o say_v but_o you_o tell_v we_o not_o when_o for_o if_o you_o speak_v of_o answer_v our_o book_n you_o scarce_o give_v one_o for_o ten_o neither_o do_v you_o so_o disquiet_v we_o by_o your_o pretend_a claim_n as_o you_o main_o boast_v but_o we_o may_v sleep_v on_o both_o side_n if_o we_o have_v none_o other_o business_n then_o to_o confute_v your_o popish_a treatise_n and_o if_o you_o have_v no_o great_a hope_n in_o treasonable_a practice_n as_o in_o your_o rebellion_n both_o in_o england_n and_o ireland_n and_o in_o your_o pope_n band_n and_o banner_n your_o saunders_n your_o feltons_n your_o someruil_n your_o parry_n and_o such_o other_o execrable_a traitor_n and_o treason_n than_o you_o have_v confidence_n in_o writing_n or_o reason_v you_o will_v not_o look_v to_o see_v the_o root_n out_o of_o our_o faith_n &_o religion_n which_o you_o term_v heresy_n as_o you_o do_v vain_o prognosticat_fw-la and_o prophecy_n but_o our_o credit_n you_o think_v be_v great_o crush_v in_o our_o own_o conceit_n see_v we_o fly_v open_o and_o without_o shame_n all_o kind_n of_o quiet_a trial_n what_o soever_o and_o with_o fury_n only_o move_v the_o magistrate_n to_o violence_n against_o you_o in_o deed_n you_o know_v your_o own_o cause_n best_o where_o you_o have_v the_o magistrate_n obedient_a at_o your_o beck_n how_o unwilling_a you_o be_v to_o have_v any_o other_o quiet_a conference_n for_o trial_n but_o imprisonment_n torment_n fire_n and_o faggot_n and_o if_o the_o same_o measure_n be_v pay_v you_o home_o again_o into_o your_o lap_n it_o be_v no_o more_o but_o good_a justice_n and_o such_o as_o you_o shall_v sure_o find_v one_o day_n according_a to_o the_o prophecy_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n reward_n 18._o she_o even_o as_o she_o have_v reward_v you_o etc._n etc._n when_o god_n shall_v put_v into_o the_o hart_n of_o king_n to_o hate_v the_o romish_a whore_n of_o babylon_n to_o eat_v her_o flesh_n and_o to_o burn_v she_o with_o fire_n but_o as_o yet_o god_n call_v you_o to_o repentance_n you_o have_v no_o cause_n to_o repine_v against_o our_o severity_n much_o less_o to_o condemn_v we_o of_o violence_n if_o you_o seek_v not_o your_o own_o bane_n by_o practise_v of_o treason_n and_o sedition_n but_o how_o do_v you_o open_o and_o without_o shame_n say_v that_o we_o fly_v open_o and_o without_o shame_n all_o kind_n of_o quiet_a trial_n what_o lawful_a kind_n of_o quiet_a trial_n have_v not_o be_v offer_v to_o you_o will_v you_o have_v conference_n be_v there_o not_o a_o most_o solemn_a conference_n agree_v upon_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o her_o majesty_n reign_n where_o principal_a man_n of_o both_o part_n have_v be_v choose_v to_o confer_v and_o all_o the_o state_n of_o the_o realm_n assemble_v in_o parliament_n ready_a to_o hear_v and_o who_o do_v there_o open_o and_o without_o all_o shame_n fly_v the_o trial_n do_v not_o the_o pillar_n of_o popery_n upon_o a_o frivolus_fw-la cavil_n mislike_v by_o their_o own_o fecknam_n give_v over_o the_o combat_n as_o for_o private_a confirence_n it_o have_v be_v many_o time_n offer_v and_o often_o practise_v with_o such_o of_o your_o heresy_n as_o be_v in_o hold_n but_o of_o they_o for_o the_o most_o part_n mislike_v or_o reject_v trial_o by_o write_v of_o book_n have_v always_o be_v and_o yet_o be_v open_a &_o free_a in_o so_o much_o as_o many_o of_o your_o popish_a treatise_n be_v confute_v by_o we_o be_v allow_v to_o be_v insert_v into_o our_o book_n that_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n may_v judge_v of_o both_o more_o free_o and_o easy_o a_o trial_n which_o you_o papi_v never_o yet_o dare_v enter_v into_o and_o a_o manifest_a argument_n that_o you_o fly_v the_o most_o indifferent_a kind_n of_o trial_n you_o have_v be_v open_o challenge_v by_o doctor_n fulke_n to_o conclude_v the_o controversy_n motive_n of_o religion_n that_o be_v between_o we_o in_o the_o strict_a form_n of_o syllogism_n both_o for_o your_o own_o ease_n and_o for_o the_o clearness_n and_o certainty_n of_o judgement_n and_o this_o rea_fw-la sonable_a request_n if_o you_o refuse_v to_o yealde_v unto_o he_o have_v protest_v before_o god_n and_o the_o world_n that_o you_o show_v yourselves_o thereby_o to_o be_v enemy_n of_o truth_n that_o you_o fly_v the_o light_n and_o dare_v not_o abide_v the_o trial_n and_o yet_o these_o four_o year_n day_n none_o of_o you_o all_o have_v adventure_v that_o most_o easy_a certain_a and_o necessary_a trial_n which_o you_o can_v refuse_v if_o you_o will_v have_v truth_n to_o be_v think_v to_o stand_v on_o your_o side_n let_v wise_a man_n judge_v therefore_o whether_o we_o refuse_v all_o kind_n of_o quiet_a trial_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o seditious_a kind_n of_o trial_n that_o you_o will_v have_v as_o appear_v by_o campian_n challenge_v who_o although_o he_o be_v a_o person_n too_o contemptible_a for_o year_n gravity_n learning_n or_o honesty_n to_o make_v so_o proud_a a_o challenge_n to_o all_o the_o learned_a and_o wise_a of_o the_o church_n and_o common_a wealth_n of_o england_n yet_o when_o he_o be_v bring_v to_o light_n he_o be_v confer_v withal_o by_o diverse_a grave_n and_o learned_a man_n and_o try_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o his_o own_o treatise_n in_o which_o god_n wot_v he_o be_v quick_o find_v to_o be_v none_o other_o than_o his_o familiar_n always_o know_v he_o to_o be_v that_o be_v more_o bold_a to_o challenge_v then_o able_a to_o defend_v himself_o more_o ready_a to_o cavil_n like_o a_o childish_a sophister_n then_o to_o answer_v like_o a_o sober_a divine_n and_o as_o for_o his_o constancy_n &_o patience_n which_o you_o magnify_v with_o so_o many_o word_n in_o his_o just_a execution_n for_o treason_n which_o you_o false_o term_v martyrdom_n for_o your_o false_a religion_n there_o be_v small_a cause_n you_o shall_v boast_v of_o it_o but_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a where_o you_o can_v be_v bear_v out_o with_o truth_n to_o break_v through_o with_o open_a lie_n for_o many_o hundrethe_n of_o eye_n witness_n can_v testify_v against_o you_o that_o of_o his_o patience_n which_o yet_o have_v be_v perforce_o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a trial_n by_o torment_n or_o sense_n of_o bodelie_a pain_n at_o his_o death_n other_o than_o be_v usual_a to_o all_o that_o be_v strangle_v with_o a_o halter_n but_o as_o for_o constancy_n or_o cheerful_a passage_n unto_o his_o death_n it_o appear_v less_o in_o he_o then_o in_o any_o of_o his_o fellow_n but_o rather_o great_a token_n of_o dejection_n and_o consternation_n of_o his_o mind_n bewray_v in_o his_o colour_n countenance_n voice_n and_o gesture_n plain_o note_v by_o such_o as_o know_v his_o stomach_n courage_n &_o lusty_a behaviour_n when_o he_o be_v in_o prosperity_n that_o he_o &_o his_o complice_n will_v acknowledge_v no_o guilt_n of_o treason_n whereof_o they_o be_v so_o clear_o convict_v it_o make_v their_o death_n more_o detestable_a &_o show_v their_o hypocrisy_n more_o damnable_a who_o see_v it_o be_v necessary_a for_o they_o to_o die_v as_o traitor_n desire_v of_o their_o fautor_n to_o be_v honour_v as_o martyr_n declare_v thereby_o intolerable_a rancour_n and_o malice_n against_o the_o prince_n and_o the_o state_n and_o no_o less_o pride_n &_o ambition_n in_o themselves_o of_o such_o martyr_n boast_v as_o long_o as_o you_o will_v you_o shall_v neither_o get_v credit_n by_o they_o when_o their_o cause_n be_v know_v nor_o terrify_v we_o with_o revenge_n of_o their_o blood_n when_o their_o punishment_n be_v just_a hitherto_o belike_o you_o have_v speak_v to_o all_o that_o abhor_v popery_n in_o general_a for_o now_o you_o will_v speak_v aword_n or_o two_o to_o master_n charke_n as_o to_o his_o own_o person_n in_o particular_a and_o two_o thing_n you_o tell_v he_o of_o that_o in_o this_o matter_n
the_o argument_n as_o of_o the_o answer_n and_o when_o he_o repeat_v any_o argument_n that_o he_o have_v write_v it_o be_v that_o the_o opponent_n may_v acknowledge_v that_o he_o have_v take_v it_o true_o as_o like_o wise_a he_o repeat_v campian_n answer_v also_o who_o often_o time_n when_o he_o mislike_v it_o himself_o either_o add_v or_o detract_v or_o alter_v the_o same_o so_o that_o he_o weary_v the_o writer_n not_o a_o little_a until_o it_o be_v set_v down_o as_o he_o will_v have_v it_o stand_v and_o as_o he_o will_v stand_v to_o it_o otherwise_o it_o have_v be_v small_a matter_n of_o applause_n that_o master_n charke_n shall_v get_v to_o have_v a_o other_o man_n urge_v his_o argument_n for_o he_o to_o the_o purpose_n as_o though_o he_o can_v not_o follow_v they_o himself_o sufficient_o so_o great_a likeliehoode_n of_o truth_n your_o surmise_n have_v which_o yet_o you_o set_v down_o as_o absolute_o as_o they_o be_v oracle_n of_o apollo_n for_o which_o cause_n also_o you_o have_v master_n norton_n the_o rackemaster_n etc._n etc._n but_o how_o well_o do_v you_o remember_v the_o rule_n of_o civility_n in_o word_n whereof_o you_o be_v such_o a_o rigorous_a exactor_n in_o other_o man_n that_o so_o reproachful_o scoff_n at_o m._n norton_n who_o beside_o his_o rare_a gift_n of_o wit_n learning_n and_o wisdom_n be_v of_o special_a trust_n with_o other_o appoint_a by_o the_o prince_n and_o her_o most_o honnorable_a council_n to_o examine_v such_o as_o be_v think_v meet_a to_o be_v try_v or_o terrify_v with_o the_o rack_n &_o therefore_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o authority_n by_o which_o he_o deal_v in_o those_o case_n neither_o in_o civility_n nor_o in_o christianity_n deserve_v the_o odious_a and_o opprobious_a name_n of_o a_o rackemaster_n again_o you_o pity_v the_o case_n that_o we_o dare_v not_o make_v those_o few_o disputation_n public_a where_o more_o man_n may_v have_v laugh_v &_o be_v witness_n of_o our_o folly_n etc._n etc._n no_o no_o if_o we_o have_v part_v with_o master_n campian_n but_o at_o a_o even_a hand_n as_o we_o join_v with_o he_o with_o all_o inequallitie_n you_o shall_v have_v have_v book_n of_o triumphset_n forth_o before_o now_o &_o this_o secret_a of_o we_o all_o the_o people_n of_o england_n do_v know_v what_o secret_a of_o we_o be_v like_a that_o we_o dare_v not_o make_v these_o disputation_n publiker_n by_o print_v the_o report_n thereof_o for_o otherwise_o there_o be_v witness_n enough_o at_o the_o hear_n of_o they_o but_o now_o all_o the_o people_n of_o england_n know_v that_o you_o lie_v impudent_o for_o the_o report_n of_o that_o conference_n have_v be_v imprint_v almost_o this_o two_o year_n and_o never_o a_o papist_n of_o you_o all_o at_o home_o or_o abroad_o have_v adventure_v to_o control_v it_o although_o there_o have_v be_v print_v brag_n that_o you_o will_v short_o set'it_v out_o yourselves_o to_o our_o shame_n you_o will_v say_v it_o be_v set_v down_o by_o ourselves_o or_o our_o own_o friend_n and_o consequent_o partial_o in_o report_n of_o campian_n answer_v admit_v it_o be_v so_o as_o in_o deed_n it_o be_v otherwise_o for_o campian_n answer_v touch_v the_o substance_n of_o they_o and_o in_o his_o own_o word_n be_v as_o true_o set_v down_o as_o the_o opponent_n argument_n yet_o because_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o the_o victory_n against_o campian_n person_n but_o against_o his_o heresy_n if_o you_o think_v campian_n or_o your_o cause_n have_v injury_n by_o the_o report_n of_o his_o answer_n why_o do_v not_o you_o show_v either_o what_o his_o answer_n be_v or_o what_o they_o shall_v have_v be_v to_o the_o avoid_v of_o those_o argument_n that_o then_o be_v bring_v against_o he_o which_o argument_n as_o they_o be_v then_o propound_v to_o camipans_n person_n so_o now_o by_o publish_v of_o they_o in_o print_n they_o be_v offer_v as_o a_o small_a taste_n to_o all_o his_o fautor_n &_o abbertor_n to_o answer_v they_o if_o they_o can_v better_a than_o campian_n but_o a_o young_a novis_fw-la in_o popish_a divinity_n be_v able_a to_o do_v but_o i_o suppose_v it_o much_o more_o easy_a for_o you_o to_o laugh_v at_o they_o in_o corner_n and_o smile_v in_o your_o sleeve_n in_o open_a presence_n then_o keep_v the_o law_n of_o disputation_n to_o avoid_v the_o force_n of_o they_o as_o for_o the_o vain_a glory_n whereof_o you_o dream_v that_o we_o be_v so_o greedy_a you_o see_v by_o differ_v the_o publication_n of_o that_o conference_n so_o long_o that_o we_o can_v well_o have_v forbear_v it_o altogether_o if_o vour_z insolent_a brag_a false_a surmise_v impudent_a slander_v and_o childish_a dare_v have_v not_o in_o a_o manner_n extort_a the_o set_v forth_o thereof_o the_o example_n you_o bring_v of_o our_o desire_n of_o praise_n by_o doctor_n fulke_n look_v into_o wisbige_n castle_n be_v by_o the_o same_o man_n sufficient_o answer_v with_o all_o other_o quarrel_n that_o you_o pick_v against_o his_o writing_n in_o a_o several_a treatise_n annex_v to_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o english_a translation_n against_o gregory_n martin_n and_o therefore_o there_o need_v not_o any_o other_o confutation_n of_o those_o slander_n and_o cavil_n then_o be_v already_o set_v forth_o but_o with_o what_o inequality_n do_v we_o join_v with_o campian_n by_o mean_n whereof_o he_o may_v be_v less_o able_a to_o make_v his_o party_n good_a we_o know_v you_o say_v the_o inequality_n whereby_o we_o deal_v with_o that_o man_n be_v but_o one_o unbooked_a unprovided_a weary_a with_o imprisonment_n and_o almost_o dismember_v with_o the_o rack_n threaten_v and_o terrify_v with_o death_n to_o come_v appoint_v only_o to_o answer_v and_o never_o to_o oppose_v yea_o all_o this_o we_o know_v and_o the_o world_n both_o know_v and_o marueil_v at_o it_o abroad_o the_o world_n may_v marvel_v at_o his_o arrogancy_n in_o make_v such_o a_o proud_a challenge_n and_o at_o your_o impudency_n in_o defend_v his_o insufficiency_n with_o such_o manifest_a untrueth_n first_o you_o say_v he_o be_v but_o one_o and_o the_o world_n know_v there_o be_v but_o six_o of_o more_o than_o six_o hundred_o who_o he_o challenge_v able_a to_o have_v encounter_v with_o a_o great_a giant_n than_o he_o be_v that_o at_o several_a time_n have_v conference_n with_o he_o he_o be_v but_o one_o with_o manifest_a note_n of_o intolerable_a pride_n provoke_v all_o the_o learned_a of_o england_n and_o do_v you_o complain_v that_o be_v but_o one_o he_o be_v assay_v by_o so_o few_o of_o so_o great_a a_o number_n as_o he_o challenge_v there_o be_v but_o one_o that_o challenge_v all_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v think_v meet_a that_o this_o one_o shall_v be_v a_o little_a discover_v part_o to_o repress_v the_o insolency_n of_o himself_o and_o of_o his_o friend_n partly_o to_o satisfy_v the_o weakness_n of_o some_o ignorant_a person_n that_o may_v imagine_v there_o be_v some_o great_a matter_n in_o his_o bold_a challenge_n who_o show_v therein_o the_o great_a folly_n that_o can_v be_v if_o it_o have_v notserue_v for_o a_o other_o subtle_a practice_n hewas_n unbook_v you_o say_v but_o in_o deed_n he_o be_v license_v to_o have_v what_o book_n soever_o he_o will_v call_v for_o canisius_n great_a catechism_n he_o require_v and_o have_v which_o he_o say_v shall_v be_v unto_o he_o instar_fw-la omnium_fw-la unprovided_a he_o can_v not_o be_v be_v oppose_v in_o his_o own_o book_n or_o at_o lest_o wise_a can_v not_o complain_v of_o it_o have_v as_o long_a time_n to_o consider_v of_o the_o question_n as_o his_o adversary_n have_v his_o imprisonment_n have_v not_o be_v so_o long_o before_o the_o conference_n nor_o his_o keep_n so_o straight_o that_o his_o wit_n can_v be_v dull_v or_o his_o memory_n quail_v in_o so_o short_a a_o time_n of_o five_o or_o six_o week_n that_o he_o be_v either_o almost_o or_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o dismember_a or_o distract_v in_o body_n with_o the_o rack_n be_v a_o most_o false_a lie_n and_o shameless_a slander_n although_o he_o brag_v as_o of_o his_o suffering_n by_o the_o rack_n which_o he_o rather_o see_v then_o feel_v as_o master_n lieutenant_n tell_v he_o it_o be_v as_o false_a that_o he_o be_v threaten_v or_o terrify_v with_o death_n by_o any_o of_o the_o disputer_n if_o he_o be_v terrify_v in_o mind_n with_o conscience_n of_o his_o treason_n to_o fear_v that_o death_n which_o he_o know_v he_o have_v deserve_v there_o be_v none_o to_o blame_v but_o himself_o otherwise_o his_o behaviour_n be_v not_o like_o one_o that_o fear_v death_n as_o it_o be_v afterward_o when_o death_n in_o deed_n be_v present_a before_o his_o eye_n final_o that_o he_o be_v appoint_v only_o to_o answer_v and_o never_o to_o oppose_v it_o be_v no_o disadvantage_n to_o he_o if_o he_o have_v maintain_v a_o true_a cause_n and_o have_v be_v that_o man_n of_o
which_o be_v but_o a_o short_a section_n or_o chap_n er_fw-mi do_v not_o charge_n luther_n with_o this_o opinion_n of_o heretic_n not_o to_o be_v burn_v but_o the_o donatist_n who_o fancy_n be_v renew_v again_o in_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o libertine_n as_o for_o luther_n contra_fw-la latomum_fw-la deincendiariis_fw-la handle_v not_o this_o controversy_n at_o all_o but_o only_o expostulate_v with_o the_o divine_v of_o lovane_a which_o burn_v his_o book_n without_o examination_n or_o conviction_n of_o they_o out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n many_o man_n have_v complain_v and_o that_o most_o justly_o of_o the_o cruelty_n of_o the_o papist_n in_o burn_v as_o heretic_n the_o true_a saint_n martyr_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n who_o faith_n and_o religion_n they_o be_v never_o able_a to_o convince_v of_o heresy_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n but_o that_o no_o blasphemer_n or_o obstinate_a heretic_n maintain_v blasphemy_n against_o the_o express_a and_o manifest_a truth_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v punish_v by_o death_n i_o be_o persuade_v he_o can_v bring_v no_o book_n or_o author_n of_o any_o account_n that_o so_o hold_v fourthlie_o he_o add_v that_o luther_n by_o only_a scripture_n find_v the_o sacramentary_n to_o be_v heretic_n d._n fulk_n by_o the_o same_o scripture_n find_v that_o both_o party_n be_v good_a catholic_n but_o as_o luther_n err_v in_o his_o opinion_n of_o the_o sacrament_n so_o he_o be_v over_o rash_a in_o condemn_v those_o who_o he_o call_v sacramentary_n nevertheless_o see_v he_o err_v of_o ignorance_n and_o inconsiderate_a zeal_n he_o have_v find_v mercy_n with_o god_n and_o be_v not_o to_o be_v adjudge_v as_o a_o blasphemous_a heretic_n for_o neither_o the_o error_n he_o maintain_v be_v blasphemy_n in_o itself_o neither_o do_v he_o hold_v it_o contrary_a to_o his_o knowledge_n but_o as_o he_o be_v ignorantlie_o persuade_v with_o zeal_n of_o truth_n though_o deceive_v with_o error_n how_o doctor_n fulke_n proove_v this_o not_o only_o by_o scripture_n but_o also_o by_o example_n of_o ancient_a father_n err_v in_o like_a case_n and_o yet_o not_o to_o be_v condemn_v for_o heretic_n you_o may_v read_v in_o the_o place_n by_o this_o answerer_n quote_v and_o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o popish_a quarrel_n his_o last_o example_n be_v of_o many_o thing_n which_o master_n whitgift_n do_v defend_v against_o thomas_n cartwright_n to_o be_v lawful_a by_o scripture_n as_o bishop_n dcanes_n archdeacon_n official_o holy_a day_n and_o a_o hundred_o more_o which_o in_o geneva_n be_v hold_v to_o be_v flat_o conirarie_a to_o the_o scripture_n there_o be_v many_o thing_n lawful_a by_o scripture_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v use_v the_o form_n of_o external_a government_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o so_o express_o set_v down_o in_o holy_a scripture_n but_o that_o evetie_n particular_a church_n have_v liberty_n and_o must_v of_o necessity_n appoint_v many_o thing_n for_o order_n decency_n and_o government_n which_o be_v not_o in_o express_a term_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n even_o as_o god_n shall_v give_v they_o grace_n to_o see_v what_o be_v most_o expedient_a according_a to_o the_o difference_n of_o time_n place_n and_o person_n for_o the_o build_n up_o of_o the_o church_n in_o truth_n and_o love_n wherefore_o although_o the_o church_n of_o geneva_n in_o the_o form_n of_o outward_a regiment_n rite_n and_o discipline_n differ_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o use_v the_o same_o thing_n that_o we_o do_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o hold_v they_o to_o be_v flat_a contrary_n to_o the_o scripture_n neither_o be_v our_o answerer_n able_a sound_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o do_v so_o bold_o assevere_v to_o proceed_v he_o tell_v we_o what_o advantage_n herctike_n have_v by_o only_a scripture_n they_o make_v themselves_o thereby_o judge_n of_o doctor_n counsel_n history_n president_n cusiome_n prescription_n yea_o of_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n &_o sense_n itself_o reserve_v all_o interpretation_n to_o themselves_o but_o this_o be_v nothing_o so_o for_o howsoeverheretike_n take_v upon_o they_o to_o control_v all_o thing_n according_a to_o their_o fantasy_n yet_o have_v they_o no_o advantage_n by_o only_a scripture_n but_o thereby_o may_v be_v &_o be_v confound_v when_o they_o come_v to_o examination_n &_o tri_fw-la all_o and_o as_o for_o the_o professor_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o acknowledge_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v sufficient_a to_o teach_v all_o 5._o thing_n needful_a to_o be_v knowneunto_o salvation_n although_o they_o be_v by_o god_n himself_o make_v judge_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o all_o man_n by_o exact_v they_o unto_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o word_n of_o 17._o god_n which_o be_v the_o only_a certain_a rule_n of_o truth_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o by_o private_a authority_n judge_v of_o counsel_n doctor_n father_n custom_n etc._n etc._n but_o by_o that_o charge_n which_o be_v lay_v upon_o they_o to_o judge_v &_o condemn_v even_o the_o angel_n 1._o from_o heaven_n if_o they_o shall_v bring_v any_o other_o gospel_n then_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n have_v preach_v without_o all_o arrogancy_n or_o insolency_n against_o the_o angel_n counsel_n doctor_n father_n &_o whatsoever_o but_o in_o give_v god_n the_o glory_n to_o be_v only_o true_a &_o all_o man_n to_o be_v liar_n &_o no_o angel_n to_o be_v credit_v except_o they_o speak_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n of_o who_o speech_n we_o have_v no_o certain_a demonstration_n but_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n &_o whatsoever_o be_v agreeable_a unto_o they_o the_o discern_a of_o the_o book_n of_o scripture_n &_o of_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o they_o be_v also_o commit_v unto_o the_o church_n &_o the_o faithful_a member_n thereof_o that_o doutful_a book_n be_v judge_v by_o those_o that_o without_o doubt_n be_v indict_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n &_o deliver_v to_o the_o church_n by_o faithful_a witness_n &_o instrument_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v of_o sovereign_a and_o perpetual_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n and_o so_o be_v know_v and_o take_v of_o the_o true_a church_n from_o time_n to_o time_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o although_o the_o same_o truth_n may_v be_v find_v in_o other_o book_n yet_o as_o saint_n augustine_n say_v they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n because_o there_o be_v not_o such_o certainty_n of_o truth_n as_o for_o the_o sense_n and_o interpretation_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n it_o must_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o which_o be_v always_o the_o best_a and_o sure_a interpretation_n of_o themselves_o in_o all_o point_v necessary_a to_o be_v know_v with_o the_o aid_n of_o the_o gift_n of_o tongue_n the_o gift_n of_o knowledge_n the_o gift_n of_o interpretation_n in_o they_o that_o have_v labour_v in_o find_v out_o the_o sense_n thereof_o according_a to_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o in_o place_n so_o plain_a and_o evident_a as_o they_o need_v no_o interpretation_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v wrest_v by_o damnable_a heretic_n without_o great_a impudency_n and_o against_o their_o own_o conscience_n for_o which_o cause_n saint_n paul_n will_v a_o heretic_n after_o the_o first_o &_o second_o admonition_n to_o be_v avoid_v as_o one_o who_o though_o he_o will_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o truth_n yet_o he_o be_v condemn_v in_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o sin_v unto_o eternal_a damnation_n wherefore_o counsel_n father_n doctor_n custom_n example_n be_v by_o we_o admit_v but_o not_o hand_n over_o head_n without_o distinction_n but_o such_o &_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o they_o be_v true_a and_o faithful_a interpreter_n of_o the_o scripture_n by_o matter_n and_o place_n plain_a &_o certain_o know_v open_v matter_n &_o place_n obscure_a and_o unknown_a which_o be_v the_o office_n of_o a_o expounder_n &_o not_o to_o determine_v by_o his_o own_o authority_n of_o another_o meaning_n whereof_o as_o among_o man_n evetie_n man_n be_v the_o best_a in_o terpreter_n of_o his_o own_o so_o be_v the_o holy_a ghost_n of_o himself_o in_o the_o scripture_n by_o he_o inspire_v of_o who_o meaning_n where_o they_o be_v hard_a to_o be_v understand_v no_o man_n can_v be_v certain_a but_o either_o by_o his_o own_o plain_a word_n or_o by_o plain_a &_o necessary_a conclusion_n out_o of_o his_o plain_a word_n now_o touch_v the_o papist_n who_o our_o answerer_n say_v to_o be_v restrain_v from_o chap_a and_o change_v affirm_v and_o deny_v at_o their_o pleasure_n because_o they_o bind_v themselves_o to_o other_o thing_n beside_o the_o scripture_n to_o which_o they_o give_v sovereign_a authority_n as_o to_o counsel_n ancient_a father_n tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o primative_a church_n with_o the_o like_a the_o matter_n be_v far_o otherwise_o for_o whatsoever_o they_o prate_v of_o the_o sovereignty_n of_o
quarter_v for_o offer_v disputation_n only_o or_o at_o al._n but_o this_o you_o must_v say_v to_o we_o minister_n for_o our_o good_a that_o it_o be_v far_o better_a we_o confessedour_n fear_n in_o plain_a word_n than_o so_o much_o to_o manifest_v it_o in_o deed_n and_o thereby_o io_o discredit_n the_o rest_n of_o our_o say_n what_o fear_n i_o pray_v you_o and_o by_o what_o deed_n do_v we_o manifest_v it_o so_o much_o be_v like_o the_o minister_n of_o england_n rack_v and_o quarter_v campian_n for_o fear_n lest_o he_o shall_v overcome_v they_o in_o disputation_n as_o the_o popish_a priest_n torment_v and_o burn_v they_o who_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o stand_v against_o in_o disputation_n we_o will_v confess_v in_o plain_a word_n that_o we_o be_v perilouslie_o afraid_a of_o you_o in_o deed_n where_o you_o may_v practice_v your_o malice_n against_o we_o by_o massacre_n and_o martyr_v of_o our_o body_n with_o all_o kind_n of_o cruel_a torment_n &_o bloody_a persecution_n even_o unto_o death_n &_o that_o by_o fire_n but_o of_o your_o learning_n be_v of_o dispute_v or_o any_o thing_n that_o you_o can_v bring_v in_o the_o way_n of_o disputation_n either_o to_o maintain_v your_o heresy_n or_o to_o oppugn_v the_o truth_n of_o our_o religion_n we_o never_o show_v ourselves_o fearful_a or_o make_v dangerous_a to_o join_v with_o the_o proud_a of_o your_o part_n in_o public_a disputation_n though_o it_o cost_v some_o of_o we_o their_o life_n for_o none_o other_o crime_n but_o because_o you_o can_v not_o vanquish_v they_o in_o disputation_n to_o make_v they_o yield_v unto_o your_o falsehood_n or_o to_o deny_v the_o truth_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n we_o shall_v be_v afraid_a of_o your_o disputer_n when_o we_o live_v under_o the_o protection_n of_o a_o most_o gracious_a prince_n who_o be_v ready_a to_o defend_v both_o our_o person_n from_o injury_n and_o our_o religion_n from_o contempt_n and_o contumely_n you_o must_v therefore_o seek_v out_o other_o manner_n of_o deed_n wherein_o we_o so_o much_o manifest_v our_o fear_n of_o you_o than_o the_o rack_a or_o quarter_a of_o popish_a traitor_n which_o all_o man_n and_o yourself_o do_v know_v to_o be_v no_o act_n or_o deed_n of_o the_o minister_n but_o of_o the_o magistrate_n as_o also_o that_o the_o same_o punishment_n be_v not_o lay_v upon_o they_o for_o any_o cause_n of_o religion_n much_o less_o for_o offer_v disputation_n but_o for_o horrible_a and_o heinous_a treason_n or_o else_o all_o man_n will_v account_v you_o to_o be_v but_o a_o wooden_a disputer_n to_o charge_v we_o with_o fear_n show_v in_o deed_n whereof_o you_o can_v show_v none_o that_o be_v we_o or_o can_v argue_v the_o like_a fear_n in_o they_o who_o deed_n they_o be_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o matter_n contain_v in_o this_o defence_n of_o the_o first_o section_n of_o the_o censure_n and_o of_o the_o next_o be_v so_o good_a stuff_n that_o it_o need_v none_o other_o confutation_n than_o master_n charke_n reply_v against_o which_o it_o defend_v the_o censure_n where_o the_o censure_n say_v there_o can_v nothing_o be_v have_v from_o they_o but_o word_n master_n charke_n for_o himself_o refer_v man_n to_o his_o answer_n and_o for_o master_n hamner_n he_o say_v that_o he_o have_v bring_v more_o reason_n with_o his_o word_n than_o the_o censurer_n will_v be_v able_a to_o answer_v but_o that_o be_v not_o the_o censurer_n purpose_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o desire_a disputation_n and_o the_o disired_a disputation_n be_v a_o sedition_n challenge_v as_o have_v be_v plain_o prove_v for_o otherwise_o what_o argument_n so_o ever_o for_o your_o part_n have_v be_v bring_v by_o the_o censurer_n have_v be_v by_o master_n charke_n &_o master_n hanmer_n full_o answer_v which_o be_v a_o sufficient_a acceptation_n of_o disputation_n offer_v if_o no_o surth_a matter_n be_v intend_v and_o a_o more_o profitable_a kind_n of_o disputation_n then_o that_o you_o desire_v the_o print_a book_n extend_v far_o and_o near_o &_o carry_v a_o certain_a and_o undoubted_a relation_n as_o well_o of_o the_o argument_n as_o of_o the_o answer_n whereas_o in_o your_o desire_a disputation_n it_o may_v well_o be_v think_v that_o you_o hope_v to_o triumph_v rather_o in_o multitude_n of_o boast_a word_n to_o be_v utter_v with_o impudent_a audacity_n by_o your_o brabble_a sophister_n and_o in_o the_o false_a report_n spread_v by_o your_o lie_a sycophant_n then_o to_o obtain_v any_o victory_n by_o sound_a argument_n or_o sufficient_a answer_n which_o thing_n well_o appear_v in_o the_o disputation_n that_o be_v grant_v to_o campian_n and_o other_o of_o your_o sect_n with_o master_n charke_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o godly_a learned_a that_o have_v conference_n with_o they_o but_o now_o because_o of_o that_o which_o master_n charke_n have_v say_v of_o master_n hanmer_n bring_v matter_n with_o his_o word_n you_o will_v bind_v he_o to_o defend_v every_o syllable_n in_o master_n hanmers_n book_n &_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v he_o that_o he_o will_v needs_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o avochement_n of_o master_n hanmers_n do_n with_o what_o reason_n every_o man_n that_o have_v but_o a_o crumb_n of_o reason_n may_v judge_v therefore_o such_o matter_n as_o you_o require_v master_n charke_n to_o answer_v for_o he_o may_v if_o he_o think_v good_a in_o his_o next_o writing_n satisfy_v your_o request_n although_o he_o have_v by_o no_o promise_n bind_v himself_o thereto_o and_o master_n hanmer_n be_v sufficient_a to_o answer_v for_o himself_o and_o therefore_o by_o i_o they_o shall_v be_v pass_v over_o with_o silence_n be_v but_o quarrel_n and_o cavil_n what_o the_o jesuite_n hold_v or_o hold_v not_o the_o like_a i_o say_v to_o your_o collection_n of_o the_o effect_n of_o master_n hanmers_n book_n which_o be_v perform_v so_o wise_o and_o pithelie_o that_o you_o seem_v to_o have_v find_v out_o a_o very_a compendious_a and_o easy_a kind_n of_o confutation_n of_o any_o book_n that_o mislike_v you_o although_o the_o same_o brief_a kind_n of_o declare_v the_o effect_n of_o master_n charke_n book_n do_v not_o satisfy_v your_o mind_n and_o therefore_o you_o pass_v over_o his_o reply_n without_o examination_n promise_v to_o verify_v all_o that_o you_o have_v say_v and_o he_o deni_v in_o their_o particular_a place_n because_o in_o deed_n m._n charke_n reply_n do_v so_o clearelie_o discuss_v the_o smoke_n of_o your_o vain_a cavillation_n that_o you_o be_v ashamed_a to_o bring_v they_o again_o into_o open_a light_n &_o therefore_o refer_v they_o to_o several_a corner_n nevertheless_o i_o wish_v that_o all_o indifferent_a reader_n as_o in_o all_o place_n so_o in_o this_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o read_v m._n charke_n reply_n between_o the_o censure_n &_o the_o defence_n or_o at_o lestwise_n after_o the_o defence_n in_o which_o for_o the_o most_o part_n they_o shall_v see_v the_o defence_n overthrow_v touch_v the_o substance_n thereof_o before_o ever_o it_o be_v write_v or_o devise_v touch_v the_o order_n and_o division_n of_o the_o book_n that_o you_o will_v needs_o make_v we_o must_v be_v content_a to_o follow_v you_o although_o no_o wise_a man_n doubt_v whatsoever_o you_o pretend_v to_o the_o contrary_a but_o it_o have_v be_v more_o easy_a both_o for_o yourself_o and_o for_o the_o reply_o of_o who_o you_o will_v seem_v to_o have_v a_o friendly_a care_n and_o most_o of_o all_o for_o the_o understanding_n of_o the_o reader_n that_o you_o have_v follow_v master_n charke_n from_o point_n to_o point_n ash_n follow_v campian_n challenge_v if_o your_o bad_a cause_n can_v have_v abide_v the_o light_n of_o so_o clear_a a_o method_n as_o for_o the_o long_a and_o bitter_a invective_n of_o spiteful_a and_o contumelious_a speech_n odious_a accusation_n light_a suspicion_n insufficient_a collection_n vain_a surmise_n of_o treason_n rebellious_a dissimulation_n practice_n etc._n etc._n which_o you_o pretend_v to_o have_v be_v the_o occasion_n of_o change_v the_o order_n in_o so_o short_a a_o treatise_n as_o master_n charke_n be_v can_v be_v no_o reasonable_a cause_n thereof_o but_o rather_o if_o any_o such_o have_v be_v they_o have_v minister_v great_a advantage_n to_o you_o and_o your_o cause_n if_o you_o have_v orderly_o confute_v they_o how_o indifferent_o and_o without_o choler_n you_o offer_v your_o four_o point_n to_o be_v examine_v both_o in_o your_o censure_n and_o in_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o same_o each_o man_n of_o what_o humour_n soever_o he_o be_v may_v with_o a_o mean_a judgement_n be_v able_a to_o consider_v the_o first_o part_n touch_v the_o society_n of_o jesuite_n and_o the_o first_o section_n entitle_v by_o he_o ofrailing_n you_o will_v convince_v master_n charke_n of_o rail_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n because_o he_o acknowledge_v his_o labour_n employ_v in_o certain_a vehement_a speech_n by_o you_o gather_v together_o to_o bring_v the_o
to_o the_o proper_a power_n of_o god_n touch_v the_o release_n of_o the_o guiltiness_n of_o sin_n although_o in_o execute_v of_o discipline_n they_o may_v pardon_v the_o exercise_n of_o repentance_n that_o be_v appoint_v for_o trial_n of_o the_o party_n true_a penitency_n or_o some_o part_n thereof_o which_o as_o it_o be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o judgement_n and_o discretion_n of_o man_n so_o they_o may_v by_o the_o same_o release_v it_o as_o upon_o good_a cause_n they_o think_v convenient_a where_o you_o say_v that_o priest_n may_v pardon_v or_o retain_v man_n sin_n of_o all_o sort_n as_o well_o in_o the_o sarcrament_n of_o penance_n all_o that_o be_v confess_v as_o in_o public_a judgement_n you_o thrust_v in_o diverse_a matter_n whereof_o there_o be_v neither_o mention_n in_o the_o text_n nor_o any_o necessary_a collection_n to_o be_v make_v of_o they_o out_o of_o it_o as_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n whereof_o there_o be_v no_o outward_a element_n or_o sign_n institute_v then_o your_o kind_n of_o penance_n which_o include_v some_o piece_n of_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n &_o last_o of_o all_o your_o auricular_a and_o particular_a confession_n as_o though_o genetall_a confession_n and_o acknowledge_v of_o man_n sin_n before_o god_n may_v not_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n in_o his_o sight_n and_o as_o though_o if_o any_o sin_n be_v not_o remember_v in_o shrift_n the_o priest_n remission_n extend_v not_o unto_o it_o or_o if_o it_o be_v remember_v and_o be_v hypocriticallie_o conceal_v yet_o the_o remission_n be_v good_a &_o available_a for_o all_o other_o sin_n that_o be_v confess_v again_o it_o be_v a_o insolent_a power_n you_o give_v they_o in_o open_a judgement_n that_o they_o may_v at_o their_o pleasure_n where_o justice_n require_v correct_v the_o open_a offender_n for_o though_o you_o seem_v to_o qualify_v their_o pleasure_n by_o justice_n yet_o to_o ascribe_v that_o to_o their_o pleasure_n which_o be_v lay_v upon_o they_o of_o necessity_n what_o warrant_v have_v you_o for_o it_o for_o if_o they_o may_v at_o their_o pleasure_n they_o need_v not_o except_o it_o please_v they_o final_o your_o argument_n hold_v not_o that_o as_o in_o exercise_v of_o discipline_n they_o may_v chastise_v the_o offender_n by_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n so_o they_o may_v give_v due_a punishment_n for_o sin_n 〈◊〉_d in_o shrift_n neither_o be_v those_o two_o end_n you_o allege_v true_a for_o the_o chastisement_n of_o sin_n pertain_v not_o to_o they_o but_o to_o god_n and_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n violate_v by_o sin_n be_v satisfy_v by_o the_o obedience_n and_o suffering_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ._n whereby_o also_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o the_o power_n of_o remit_v of_o sin_n be_v make_v void_a and_o frustrate_v if_o man_n must_v endure_v due_a punishment_n which_o you_o call_v penance_n for_o the_o satisfy_n of_o god_n justice_n by_o sin_n violate_v ailen_v the_o other_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n contain_v christ_n word_n to_o saint_n peter_n severallie_o by_o certain_a notable_a circumstance_n of_o the_o letter_n and_o by_o word_n of_o great_a grant_n speak_v singular_o to_o he_o give_v the_o chief_a of_o all_o his_o apostle_n in_o more_o ample_a term_n and_o beneficial_a clause_n this_o power_n and_o prerogative_n also_o to_o he_o it_o be_v only_o say_v thou_o be_v peter_n which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o a_o rock_n for_o our_o master_n give_v he_o that_o name_n new_a at_o his_o first_o calling_n in_o signification_n of_o further_a intent_n and_o purpose_n which_o he_o here_o utter_v and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v 1._o i_o set_v my_o church_n and_o hell_n gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o that_o so_o say_v he_o thus_o speak_v in_o plain_a term_n et_fw-la tibi_fw-la dabo_fw-la clave_n regni_fw-la caelorum_fw-la et_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la ligaveris_fw-la super_fw-la terram_fw-la erit_fw-la ligatum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la caelis_fw-la &_o quodcunque_fw-la solueris_fw-la super_fw-la terram_fw-la erit_fw-la solutum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la caelis_fw-la and_o to_o thou_o will_v i_o give_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v in_o earth_n it_o shall_v be_v bind_v in_o the_o heaven_n and_o what_o thou_o lose_v in_o earth_n it_o shall_v be_v loose_v in_o the_o heaven_n this_o promise_n make_v unto_o peter_n and_o perform_v no_o doubt_n after_o his_o resurrection_n when_o he_o commit_v to_o he_o the_o feed_n and_o government_n of_o all_o his_o dear_a flock_n both_o 21._o young_a and_o old_a do_v exceed_o import_v a_o wonderful_a incomparable_a sovereignty_n and-iurisdiction_n over_o man_n soul_n for_o a_o mortal_a man_n to_o receive_v the_o key_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n and_o by_o they_o to_o bind_v &_o loose_v to_o lock_v out_o and_o let_v in_o before_o our_o master_n christ_n who_o have_v the_o full_a jurisdiction_n therein_o it_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o and_o when_o the_o holy_a prophet_n do_v mean_a to_o set_v out_o the_o great_a and_o pass_a power_n give_v by_o god_n the_o father_n to_o his_o only_a son_n in_o earth_n they_o use_v to_o express_v the_o same_o often_o by_o the_o term_n of_o key_n as_o when_o the_o prophet_n esaie_n say_v i_o will_v lay_v the_o key_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n upon_o his_o shoulder_n he_o shall_v shut_v and_o there_o can_v none_o be_v able_a to_o open_v and_o he_o shall_v open_v so_o that_o none_o can_v shut_v agiane_n and_o christ_n himself_o 3_o speak_v to_o his_o belove_a john_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n say_v i_o be_o the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o i_o be_o alive_a and_o be_v dead_a before_o and_o i_o have_v the_o key_n of_o death_n and_o hell_n the_o key_n therefore_o ever_o signify_v power_n andgovernment_n of_o the_o household_n be_v give_v to_o christ_n as_o to_o who_o be_v the_o principal_a and_o most_o excellent_a rectour_n of_o his_o own_o church_n that_o he_o buy_v so_o dear_o they_o most_o du_o belong_v but_o he_o communicate_v unto_o peter_n as_o to_o his_o special_a steward_n the_o use_n of_o the_o same_o for_o the_o government_n of_o our_o soul_n with_o exceed_v much_o pre-eminence_n both_o in_o bind_v and_o lose_v yet_o i_o do_v not_o remember_v that_o any_o of_o the_o old_a writer_n do_v put_v any_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o authority_n of_o peter_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n concern_v the_o remit_v of_o sin_n which_o be_v a_o thing_n pertain_v indifferent_o to_o the_o whole_a order_n of_o priesthood_n and_o therefore_o no_o more_o proper_a to_o the_o pope_n or_o peter_n then_o to_o priest_n and_o apostle_n though_o origen_n note_v well_o that_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o peter_n seem_v by_o these_o word_n to_o be_v enlarge_v above_o the_o residue_n by_o that_o our_o saviour_n say_v to_o he_o that_o whatsoever_o he_o bind_v or_o loose_v in_o earth_n it_o shall_v be_v loose_v or_o bind_v in_o the_o heaven_n where_o to_o the_o rest_n he_o speak_v of_o heaven_n only_o in_o the_o singular_a number_n i_o speak_v only_o of_o this_o latter_a clause_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v with_o the_o key_n thereunto_o belong_v for_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o great_a pre-eminence_n of_o rule_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v promise_v before_o in_o the_o sametext_n now_o recite_v and_o else_o where_o actuallie_o give_v unto_o he_o more_o than_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o brother_n nevertheless_o even_o this_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v common_a to_o all_o the_o holy_a order_n be_v in_o he_o first_o several_o plant_v for_o the_o commendation_n of_o unity_n and_o order_n as_o saint_n cyprian_n say_v and_o so_o the_o same_o authority_n give_v praelatorum_fw-la to_o other_o may_v yet_o after_o a_o sort_n be_v derive_v from_o his_o fullnes_n of_o power_n and_o prerogative_n as_o from_o a_o fountain_n fulke_v the_o other_o text_n of_o scripture_n contain_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n to_o peter_n severallie_o give_v to_o he_o as_o you_o say_v this_o power_n and_o prerogative_n also_o as_o for_o the_o not_o able_a circumstance_n of_o the_o letter_n the_o word_n of_o great_a grant_n speak_v singular_o to_o he_o the_o more_o ample_a term_n and_o beneficial_a clause_n let_v we_o examine_v what_o they_o be_v and_o whether_o they_o be_v of_o force_n to_o make_v he_o chief_a of_o all_o his_o apostle_n first_o to_o he_o it_o be_v only_o say_v thou_o be_v peter_n which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o a_o rock_n what_o then_o ergo_fw-la he_o be_v chief_a of_o all_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v so_o mad_a to_o gtaunt_a the_o consequence_n to_o the_o son_n of_o zebede_n only_o it_o be_v say_v that_o they_o be_v bonarge_n that_o be_v the_o child_n of_o thunder_n ergo_fw-la they_o have_v great_a authority_n than_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o of_o all_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v say_v
pardon_n be_v ordain_v to_o avail_v and_o except_o they_o that_o lack_v merit_v sacramental_a which_o be_v save_v immediate_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n which_o be_v not_o bind_v unto_o the_o sacrament_n but_o it_o be_v no_o reason_n you_o say_v that_o private_a person_n shall_v communicate_v and_o send_v to_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n there_o fast_n alm_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o release_n of_o their_o pain_n &_o he_o that_o represent_v christ_n person_n shall_v not_o apply_v some_o part_n of_o the_o common_a treasure_n for_o their_o delivery_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v we_o acknowledge_v no_o such_o communication_n send_v or_o lend_v by_o private_a person_n for_o any_o such_o purpose_n or_o to_o any_o such_o effect_n into_o purgatory_n but_o if_o that_o be_v grant_v yet_o be_v it_o no_o reason_n that_o the_o pope_n where_o he_o have_v no_o authority_n shall_v by_o any_o colour_n do_v more_o than_o a_o private_a man_n of_o the_o same_o worthiness_n or_o merit_n and_o when_o the_o pope_n be_v a_o wicked_a man_n of_o life_n as_o you_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o many_o have_v be_v what_o shall_v his_o suit_n or_o suffrage_n prevail_v whereas_o if_o he_o be_v twice_o as_o great_a in_o office_n as_o you_o feign_v he_o to_o be_v yet_o where_o his_o office_n extend_v not_o he_o shall_v by_o suit_n prevail_v no_o more_o then_o private_a man_n of_o such_o behaviour_n that_o this_o pardon_n per_fw-la modum_fw-la suffragij_fw-la be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o form_n of_o pardon_n always_o use_v you_o say_v without_o proof_n but_o i_o have_v prove_v the_o contrary_a before_o that_o you_o require_v in_o the_o party_n to_o be_v benefit_v by_o this_o new_a kind_n of_o pardon_n not_o only_o that_o he_o depart_v hence_o in_o grace_n and_o zeal_n of_o the_o church_n but_o also_o friendship_n in_o the_o world_n of_o such_o as_o will_v be_v contend_v to_o accomplish_v the_o appoint_a work_n of_o the_o pardon_n you_o declare_v that_o the_o pope_n pardon_n go_v not_o as_o god_n pardon_n without_o respect_n of_o person_n but_o with_o a_o necessary_a respect_n of_o worldly_a friendship_n so_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o poor_a man_n &_o such_o as_o lack_v friendship_n in_o this_o world_n be_v in_o nothing_o so_o good_a a_o case_n as_o the_o soul_n of_o rich_a man_n that_o with_o their_o pen_n be_v able_a to_o purchase_v friendship_n enough_o in_o the_o world_n so_o that_o with_o you_o the_o poor_a who_o christ_n pronounce_v happy_a be_v most_o miserable_a the_o rich_a even_o they_o to_o who_o christ_n make_v the_o entrance_n of_o heaven_n impossible_a may_v have_v soon_o dispatch_v out_o of_o purgatory_n for_o the_o old_a proverb_n be_v always_o true_a in_o the_o popish_a church_n no_o penny_n no_o paternoster_n no_o friendship_n in_o the_o world_n no_o help_n of_o the_o pope_n pardon_n for_o poor_a man_n soul_n for_o who_o yet_o the_o redemption_n of_o christ_n be_v as_o plentiful_a and_o effectual_a as_o for_o the_o scules_a of_o rich_a man_n whatsoever_o the_o devil_n or_o the_o pope_n have_v imagine_v to_o deface_v the_o glory_n thereof_o and_o to_o make_v the_o friendship_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v enmity_n with_o god_n to_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o apply_v of_o his_o most_o free_a grace_n general_a pardon_n and_o undeserued_a reconciliation_n a_o declaration_n of_o the_o church_n meaning_n touch_v the_o common_a treasure_n which_o be_v say_v to_o remain_v in_o her_o store_n for_o the_o recompense_n of_o such_o iniouned_a penance_n as_o she_o release_v by_o her_o pardon_n with_o the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o whole_a matter_n the_o 12._o chap._n allen_n but_o now_o if_o you_o ask_v i_o here_o how_o it_o stand_v with_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n thus_o to_o forgive_v the_o pain_n and_o debt_n of_o satisfaction_n which_o either_o god_n or_o the_o church_n injoin_v for_o the_o recompense_n of_o the_o former_a sin_n especial_o see_v the_o catholic_a church_n do_v hold_v that_o it_o pertain_v to_o god_n justice_n no_o less_o to_o punish_v sin_n with_o some_o temporal_a scourge_n after_o it_o be_v forgive_v than_o it_o do_v perteine_a to_o his_o mercy_n to_o forgive_v the_o say_a sin_n and_o the_o debt_n of_o everlasting_a damnation_n now_o if_o it_o stand_v not_o with_o his_o justice_n to_o let_v a_o sinner_n escape_v whole_o without_o correction_n or_o satisfaction_n than_o it_o may_v much_o more_o appear_v to_o be_v against_o his_o justice_n also_o that_o any_o power_n of_o man_n shall_v remit_v &_o release_v that_o bond_n of_o satisfaction_n which_o god_n justice_n require_v and_o be_v to_o the_o offender_n enjoin_v for_o the_o answer_n and_o perfect_a understanding_n of_o this_o doubt_n it_o be_v to_o be_v know_v and_o well_o weigh_v that_o in_o deed_n no_o release_n can_v be_v have_v of_o such_o enjoined_a penance_n or_o deserve_a pain_n for_o sin_n past_a if_o god_n justice_n be_v not_o otherwise_o recompense_v and_o the_o lack_n of_o the_o party_n punishment_n supply_v again_o by_o the_o abundance_n of_o satisfaction_n make_v by_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n everic_a drop_n of_o who_o innocent_a blood_n and_o stroke_n lay_v upon_o his_o bless_a body_n be_v able_a of_o the_o infinite_a &_o inestimable_a worth_n and_o force_n thereof_o to_o satisfy_v for_o all_o debt_n due_a to_o all_o the_o sin_n in_o the_o world_n whether_o it_o be_v death_n and_o everlasting_a damnation_n or_o tempor_n all_o pain_n and_o purgation_n by_o which_o abundant_a price_n of_o his_o passion_n and_o copious_a ransom_n the_o church_n for_o who_o sake_n this_o precious_a price_n be_v pay_v do_v not_o only_o hold_v herself_o to_o be_v redeem_v from_o death_n and_o damnation_n and_o so_o save_v by_o christ_n her_o head_n for_o he_o be_v the_o saviour_n of_o his_o body_n say_v saint_n paul_n but_o she_o hold_v the_o overplus_n as_o a_o man_n wouldsaie_v of_o so_o abundant_a copious_a and_o infinite_a redemption_n to_o be_v a_o treasure_n in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n to_o relieve_v her_o child_n lack_n to_o release_v their_o pain_n to_o work_v with_o they_o in_o satisfy_v for_o their_o sin_n and_o to_o work_v mercy_n for_o they_o also_o for_o lack_v of_o satisfy_v for_o their_o offence_n that_o want_n be_v find_v in_o our_o penance_n towards_o the_o recompense_n of_o our_o evil_a life_n paste_n may_v be_v supply_v by_o the_o treasure_n of_o christsdeath_o that_o remain_v yet_o of_o full_a force_n and_o strength_n to_o be_v apply_v unto_o we_o in_o such_o our_o necessity_n as_o shall_v be_v think_v meet_v unto_o christ_n vicar_n general_a in_o earth_n &_o other_o his_o holy_a appoint_a minister_n with_o who_o as_o saint_n paul_n say_v he_o leave_v the_o bestow_n of_o god_n mystery_n for_o although_o the_o holy_a and_o precious_a treasure_n of_o christ_n pain_n and_o satisfaction_n be_v of_o itself_o sufficient_a to_o relieve_v the_o lack_n of_o all_o man_n without_o exception_n not_o only_o of_o those_o which_o shall_v be_v save_v but_o also_o for_o the_o damn_a and_o for_o the_o whole_a world_n say_v saint_n john_n yet_o no_o man_n may_v be_v so_o hardy_a to_o claim_v the_o benefit_n thereof_o otherwise_o then_o through_o such_o mean_n as_o he_o have_v appoint_v and_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o such_o man_n as_o he_o have_v place_v over_o his_o household_n and_o family_n to_o give_v the_o child_n meat_n and_o sustenance_n in_o due_a season_n not_o as_o they_o shall_v inordinatlie_o crave_v it_o but_o as_o he_o shall_v discreet_o find_v to_o be_v mere_a for_o they_o therefore_o where_o this_o wise_a steward_n of_o christ_n holy_a household_n to_o who_o he_o give_v the_o kcy_n of_o the_o treasure_n and_o sufficient_a authority_n to_o fceae_fw-la and_o govern_v his_o whole_a flock_n where_o he_o shall_v orderly_o judge_v the_o offender_n meet_v and_o of_o good_a congruity_n worthy_a of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n there_o he_o may_v pardon_v and_o recompense_v the_o residue_n that_o can_v not_o be_v fulfil_v of_o the_o party_n penitent_a with_o some_o piece_n of_o that_o inestimable_a treasure_n of_o christ_n redemption_n which_o remain_v in_o the_o church_n impossible_a to_o be_v waste_v and_o so_o shall_v remain_v to_o the_o unspeakable_a benefit_n of_o the_o faithful_a fulke_v this_o dream_n of_o the_o church_n treasure_n &_o the_o power_n of_o dispense_n of_o the_o same_o rest_v infinitlie_o in_o the_o pope_n in_o comparision_n of_o a_o few_o small_a crumb_n leave_v unto_o the_o bishop_n shall_v have_v be_v first_o handle_v as_o the_o foundation_n of_o popish_a pardon_n if_o the_o compass_n of_o your_o cause_n and_o the_o method_n of_o deceit_n can_v have_v abide_v it_o which_o if_o it_o have_v be_v do_v many_o a_o one_o that_o have_v see_v the_o foundation_n to_o be_v no_o sure_a will_v never_o have_v take_v pain_n to_o view_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o
after_o his_o word_n set_v dowen_v in_o the_o section_n last_o before_o in_o which_o he_o speak_v neither_o of_o the_o desert_n of_o the_o live_n nor_o of_o the_o dead_a able_a to_o answer_v his_o justice_n for_o other_o but_o altogether_o of_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n which_o take_v occasion_n even_o of_o his_o love_n which_o he_o bear_v towards_o his_o saint_n that_o be_v depart_v to_o show_v compassion_n upon_o they_o that_o be_v alive_a &_o this_o for_o his_o covenant_n sake_n although_o chrysostome_n seem_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o intercession_n of_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v which_o yet_o proove_v no_o merit_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o to_o become_v a_o humble_a suitor_n for_o a_o benefit_n or_o a_o pardon_n be_v not_o to_o deserve_v a_o benefit_n or_o to_o satisfy_v for_o a_o offender_n trespass_n and_o this_o benefit_n he_o give_v say_v saint_n cyrill_n upon_o this_o text_n unto_o the_o memory_n of_o holy_a man_n that_o sometime_o he_o forget_v the_o evil_n which_o their_o posterity_n have_v commit_v 3._o to_o the_o like_a effect_n speak_v saint_n hierome_n that_o which_o god_n give_v of_o his_o mercy_n be_v no_o merit_n or_o satisfaction_n to_o his_o justice_n allen_n and_o surly_a if_o in_o the_o day_n of_o old_a where_o neither_o so_o much_o grace_n nor_o mercy_n be_v to_o be_v find_v nor_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o fountain_n of_o all_o pardon_n be_v not_o yet_o offer_v up_o to_o pay_v the_o debt_n of_o his_o brethren_n sin_n nor_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n be_v yet_o so_o full_o establish_v whereby_o the_o merit_n of_o one_o may_v redound_v to_o a_o other_o nor_o the_o church_n so_o honour_v with_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n spirit_n for_o remission_n of_o man_n offence_n nor_o the_o priesthood_n of_o god_n so_o credit_v with_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n if_o afore_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o otherwise_o wrought_v but_o in_o base_a figurse_n such_o way_n be_v find_v out_o and_o that_o by_o god_n own_o procurement_n of_o mercy_n and_o grace_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o intoyned_a penance_n and_o punishment_n what_o need_v we_o to_o doubt_v but_o their_o now_o be_v many_o mean_v make_v in_o this_o happy_a society_n of_o saint_n so_o to_o remit_v the_o bond_n of_o satisfaction_n to_o some_o that_o god_n justice_n may_v be_v answer_v again_o by_o other_o of_o this_o happy_a household_n in_o the_o abundance_n of_o their_o holy_a work_n which_o the_o church_n hold_v most_o ho_o for_o to_o be_v a_o perfect_a and_o everlasting_a treasure_n to_o satisfy_v god_n righteousness_n and_o procure_v mercy_n to_o the_o needy_a which_o by_o love_n zeal_n &_o devotion_n do_v deserve_v the_o same_o if_o god_n remit_v of_o old_a temporal_a pain_n unto_o his_o people_n at_o the_o call_n of_o moses_n and_o aaron_n and_o for_o his_o child_n david_n sake_n that_o be_v dead_a what_o will_v not_o he_o merciful_o forgive_v by_o our_o high_a priest_n procurement_n who_o pardon_n and_o punishment_n christ_n have_v solemn_o promise_v he_o will_v ratify_v and_o allow_v in_o heaven_n above_o what_o will_v he_o not_o do_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o pain_n and_o abundant_a passion_n of_o his_o own_o child_n jesus_n that_o have_v yet_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n his_o death_n so_o due_o represent_v for_o the_o remission_n of_o our_o daily_a debt_n what_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o the_o intercession_n of_o so_o many_o saint_n to_o the_o chaste_a combat_n of_o so_o many_o virgin_n to_o the_o bloody_a fight_n of_o so_o many_o martyr_n to_o the_o stout_a stand_n of_o so_o many_o confessor_n what_o mercy_n may_v not_o the_o church_n crave_v and_o doubtless_o obtain_v for_o any_o of_o by'r_a child_n either_o in_o penance_n '_o in_o this_o world_n or_o in_o pain_n in_o the_o next_o that_o have_v in_o her_o treasure_n such_o abundance_n of_o satisfaction_n first_o in_o our_o head_n christ_n jesus_n through_o who_o gracious_a work_n all_o other_o man_n pain_n be_v become_v beneficial_a either_o to_o themselves_o or_o their_o brother_n and_o then_o in_o the_o store_n of_o all_o holy_a saint_n traville_n not_o yet_o waste_v in_o procure_v mercy_n for_o other_o beside_o more_o way_n of_o grace_n and_o remission_n that_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n have_v in_o readiness_n to_o relieve_v her_o child_n that_o do_v continue_v in_o her_o happy_a lap_n and_o in_o the_o society_n of_o her_o communion_n with_o humble_a submission_n of_o themselves_o to_o the_o power_n ordain_v of_o christ_n for_o the_o government_n of_o their_o soul_n with_o request_n for_o this_o pardon_n at_o their_o hand_n to_o who_o be_v give_v the_o bestow_n and_o dispose_n of_o the_o inestimable_a treasure_n of_o so_o bless_a a_o ministry_n fulke_v the_o grace_n and_o mercy_n of_o god_n in_o jesus_n christ_n be_v as_o large_o to_o be_v find_v for_o the_o salvation_n of_o his_o people_n in_o the_o day_n of_o old_a as_o in_o these_o day_n jesus_n christ_n be_v yesterday_o and_o to_o day_n be_v the_o same_o and_o for_o evermore_o and_o the_o lamb_n be_v slay_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n 8._o as_o touch_v the_o effect_n of_o his_o death_n unto_o all_o god_n elect_v and_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v as_o full_o establish_v to_o the_o receive_n of_o all_o virtue_n of_o life_n from_o christ_n their_o head_n and_o to_o the_o mutual_a service_n of_o love_n and_o minister_a of_o god_n gift_n one_o to_o another_o but_o not_o to_o merit_v at_o all_o either_o for_o themselves_o or_o for_o other_o such_o merit_v be_v dishonourable_a to_o the_o head_n from_o who_o every_o member_n receave_v life_n and_o all_o power_n and_o office_n thereof_o ac_fw-la according_v to_o the_o measure_n of_o every_o member_n to_o the_o increase_n and_o 6_o build_v up_o of_o the_o whole_a body_n in_o love_n the_o church_n of_o old_a have_v also_o the_o ministry_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o that_o not_o in_o base_a figure_n only_o but_o insufficient_a effect_n to_o the_o everlasting_a salvation_n of_o god_n people_n and_o therefore_o to_o say_v that_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v none_o otherwise_o wrought_v but_o in_o base_a figure_n be_v to_o deny_v the_o salvation_n of_o all_o the_o father_n that_o die_v before_o the_o incarnation_n of_o christ._n for_o base_a figure_n can_v have_v but_o base_a effect_n base_a figure_n can_v not_o work_v eternal_a life_n the_o ministry_n figure_n of_o the_o law_n separate_v from_o christ_n be_v in_o deed_n the_o weak_a and_o beg_v gerlie_a element_n of_o the_o world_n but_o be_v refer_v to_o christ_n and_o make_v effectual_a by_o his_o death_n through_o faith_n in_o the_o partaker_n they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o power_n and_o riches_n unto_o everlasting_a salvation_n that_o the_o ministry_n and_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o admit_v that_o nothing_o be_v wrought_v to_o they_o but_o in_o base_a figure_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o after_o the_o incarnation_n and_o actual_a death_n of_o christ_n there_o shall_v be_v any_o more_o mean_n to_o remit_v the_o bond_n of_o satisfaction_n by_o answer_v god_n justice_n then_o in_o that_o only_a sacrifice_n obedience_n and_o suffer_v of_o christ_n or_o that_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v such_o a_o store_n house_n of_o man_n merit_n to_o satisfy_v god_n righteousness_n or_o that_o man_n by_o love_n zeal_n and_o devotion_n may_v deserve_v god_n mercy_n these_o popish_a position_n can_v never_o be_v prove_v again_o whatsoever_o god_n remit_v at_o the_o prayer_n of_o moses_n and_o aaron_n and_o for_o his_o covenant_n make_v with_o david_n or_o whatsoever_o he_o give_v to_o the_o memory_n of_o that_o holy_a man_n he_o remit_v and_o give_v for_o jesus_n christ_n sake_n in_o who_o only_o his_o justice_n be_v satisfy_v and_o he_o well_o please_v but_o your_o high_a priest_n with_o his_o antichristian_a pardon_n and_o punishment_n which_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o merit_n of_o man_n or_o colour_v with_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n which_o yet_o be_v rend_v and_o rorne_v from_o the_o effect_n of_o his_o death_n christ_n will_v destroy_v with_o the_o breath_n of_o his_o mouth_n and_o abolish_v with_o his_o glorious_a appear_v for_o the_o death_n and_o passion_n of_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n god_n will_v be_v merciful_a to_o his_o servant_n that_o by_o faith_n take_v hold_v of_o the_o power_n of_o his_o death_n but_o neither_o by_o mass_n nor_o pardon_n do_v he_o bestow_v the_o virtue_n thereof_o the_o good_a work_n and_o suffering_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v example_n of_o virtue_n and_o patience_n not_o merit_n or_o gift_n of_o righteousness_n the_o death_n of_o christ_n answer_v god_n justice_n and_o reconcile_a we_o to_o his_o favour_n have_v make_v that_o good_a work_n of_o his_o saint_n which_o be_v the_o gift_n of_o his_o grace_n