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A09061 An ansvvere to the fifth part of Reportes lately set forth by Syr Edvvard Cooke Knight, the Kinges Attorney generall Concerning the ancient & moderne municipall lawes of England, vvhich do apperteyne to spirituall power & iurisdiction. By occasion vvherof, & of the principall question set dovvne in the sequent page, there is laid forth an euident, plaine, & perspicuous demonstration of the continuance of Catholicke religion in England, from our first Kings christened, vnto these dayes. By a Catholicke deuyne. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1606 (1606) STC 19352; ESTC S114058 393,956 513

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chief_a head_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o the_o other_o in_o the_o bishop_n as_o subordinate_a to_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a 13._o and_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o chief_a and_o most_o evident_a point_n wherein_o this_o acknowledgement_n be_v see_v and_o to_o be_v observe_v they_o be_v these_o in_o effect_n first_o and_o principal_o for_o all_o point_n of_o say_v and_o belief_n which_o point_n be_v not_o receive_v in_o england_n nor_o other_o wise_a than_o they_o come_v authorize_v and_o allow_v by_o the_o say_a sea_n apostolic_a and_o second_o for_o matter_n of_o manner_n in_o like_a form_n if_o any_o thing_n be_v decree_v or_o ordain_v by_o the_o say_a sea_n see_v as_o to_o be_v observe_v general_o throughout_o all_o christendom_n england_n present_o admit_v the_o same_o though_o in_o other_o matter_n which_o be_v either_o particular_a national_a or_o several_a to_o every_o commonwealth_n england_n follow_v that_o which_o be_v most_o convenient_a for_o her_o state_n peace_n and_o quietness_n 14._o and_o as_o for_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n and_o libertye_n of_o the_o church_n we_o see_v by_o the_o say_v magna_fw-la charta_fw-la decree_v and_o confirm_v by_o this_o king_n which_o be_v the_o very_a same_o in_o effect_n that_o his_o father_n k._n john_n out_o of_o the_o charter_n of_o k._n henry_n the_o first_o grant_v upon_o the_o 16._o year_n of_o his_o reign_n and_o confirm_v again_o and_o publish_v by_o k._n edward_n his_o son_n and_o all_o his_o catholic_a successor_n that_o it_o be_v whole_o leave_v unto_o clergy_n man_n and_o to_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a and_o not_o take_v nor_o use_v by_o the_o king_n as_o namely_o in_o all_o matter_n of_o spiritual_a dispensation_n election_n institution_n admission_n confirmation●_n of_o prelate_n and_o the_o like_a all_o gather_n of_o synod_n make_v of_o ecclesiastical_a decree_n excommunication_n absolution_n indulgence_n judge_v and_o determine_v of_o