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A07192 Of the consecration of the bishops in the Church of England with their succession, iurisdiction, and other things incident to their calling: as also of the ordination of priests and deacons. Fiue bookes: wherein they are cleared from the slanders and odious imputations of Bellarmine, Sanders, Bristow, Harding, Allen, Stapleton, Parsons, Kellison, Eudemon, Becanus, and other romanists: and iustified to containe nothing contrary to the Scriptures, councels, Fathers, or approued examples of primitiue antiquitie. By Francis Mason, Batchelour of Diuinitie, and sometimes fellow of Merton Colledge in Oxeford. Mason, Francis, 1566?-1621. 1613 (1613) STC 17597; ESTC S114294 344,300 282

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priest_n that_o thing_n which_o a_o little_a before_o they_o desire_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o faithful_a which_o be_v about_o they_o shouldbe_v profitable_a unto_o they_o that_o they_o may_v obtain_v the_o benefit_n both_o of_o penitence_n and_o of_o reconciliation_n and_o the_o 4._o council_n of_o carthage_n say_v he_o that_o desire_v penitence_n in_o his_o sickness_n if_o by_o chance_n while_o the_o priest_n come_v unto_o he_o he_o shall_v become_v dumb_a or_o fall_v into_o a_o frenzy_n let_v those_o which_o hear_v he_o give_v testimony_n and_o let_v he_o receive_v penitence_n and_o the_o council_n of_o orange_n say_v he_o which_o be_v sudden_o dumb_a may_v be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v penitence_n if_o he_o have_v testimony_n of_o other_o that_o he_o be_v former_o willing_a or_o do_v manifest_v his_o present_a will_n by_o his_o sign_n now_o to_o reconcile_v man_n in_o these_o case_n be_v neither_o vain_a nor_o ridiculous_a although_o it_o be_v do_v only_o by_o way_n of_o declaration_n for_o if_o they_o understand_v what_o be_v do_v