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A90932 The preacher sent: or, A vindication of the liberty of publick preaching, by some men not ordained. In answer to two books: 1. Jus divinum ministerii euengelici. By the Provincial Assembly of London. 2. VindiciƦ ministerii euangelici. By Mr. John Collings of Norwich. / Published by Iohn Martin, minister of the Gospel at Edgfield in Norfolk. Sam. Petto, minister of the Gospel at Sand-croft in Suffolk. Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Martin, John, 1595 or 6-1659.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1658 (1658) Wing P3197; Thomason E1592_2; ESTC R208851 240,824 381

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they grant Jus Div. Minist pag. 80. that in cases of necessity men out of Office may preach and instance in Aedesius and Frumentius two private men by whose means the Indians were converted to the Christian faith c. Now the case of Saul was extraordinary the Philistims were ready to assault him he had not made his peace with God Samuel delayed his coming the people began to scatter from him whereupon he constrained himself and offered a sacrifice all these things our Brethren reckon up Jus Divin Minist pag. 81. and then call it a necessitated act So in the case of Uzza what greater necessity could there be then this when the Ark was in danger 2 Sam. 6. 6. The oxen shook it 1 Chron. 13. 9 10. The oxen stumbled If the Ark had fallen or had been broken how exceedingly Israel had suffered by it the use of it will evidence and that dolefull complaint 1 Sam. 4. 17. The Ark of the Lord is taken and ver 22. The glory is departed from Israel for the Ark of God is taken Either our Brethren must say That none may preach in a case of necessity without Ordination or being designed to Office and so cross themselves and that none must preach as probationers for that is designation to Office but they must ordain men before they hear them preach and so before they know their fitness to preach or else they must grant that these examples of Saul and Uzza are impertinent and no proofs of the Argument Let them prove that these acts might be performed so much as once by any before they were actually in such Offices as the works did belong to upon any account whatever 2. These acts were expresly forbidden and some of them threatned with death to any person that did them besides the Officers designed for the doing of them as Numb 4. ver 15. The Sons of Kohath shall come to bear it bu● they shall n●t touch any holy thing lest they dy They are forbidden so much as touching of any of the holy things upon pain of death Uzzah breaking such a command he suffered the penalty was punished with death So Numb 16. ver 40. That no stranger which is not of the seed of Aaron come neer to offer incense before the Lord that he be not as Korah and his company c. All Israelites or Levites save Aarons sons only are counted strangets in this case of Priest-hood None might Offer incense Ainsw but they lest they be as Korah in sin and punishment Numb 1. 51. Numb 18. 22 23. Neither must the Children of Israel henceforth come nigh the Taberbernacle of the Congregation lest they bear sin and dy Let any shew where the preaching of gifted Brethren is thus forbidden else these examples are nothing to their purpose And besides the matter of these works as well as the manner of performing them was not allowed to any but those Officers whereas the matter of this work of preaching is allowed undenyably to such as are no Officers they may exhort and reprove privately by our Brethrens own grant but might not privately burn incense or offer sacrifice which sheweth a further difference between those acts Object 3. This practise doth make voyd or at best unnecessary and insufficient those Officers which God hath appointed What needs a peculiar Officer to be set apart to a common work Answ 1. It is common but to such as are gifted not to all Christians as they suggest 2. It is not performed in the same manner by gifted men or under such a relation as in case of Office it is Officers preach to their Churches as to those that they are over in the Lord that are committed to their charge for such ends but gifted men stand not under any such relation to those they preach unto Some Churches have no Officers and those that have yet need the gifts of other Members In some places there are no Churches to be Officers to the people having never had the Gospel preached to them It will hardly be proved that Officers must leave their Churches to preach to these and if not they must either finde some Officers who have no Churches which is to finde a shepherd without a flock a relate without a correlate or else they must say that none must preach for the conversion of such or else that men not in Office may preach and this doth not make Officers either voyd unnecessary or insufficient Officers are necessary and sufficient to the end that Christ hath appointed them unto to be over and take charge of his Churches under him but they are not sufficient to undertake the whole worke of preaching in all places and to all persons 3. This Objection lyeth as strongly against Officers being designed to admonish exhort or reprove at least in private for what need a peculiar Officer to be set apart say they to a common work other Christians may exhort and reprove and will our Brethren say therefore there is no need that Officers should be designed to this work Obj. 4. This practise doth confound disturb that order which God hath set in his Church therefore it must needs be sinful God is the God of order and not of confusion 1 Cor. 14. and hath commanded that every one should do his own work 1 Thes 4. Rom. 12. And abide in his own calling 1 Cor. 7. he hath condemned those that walk disorderly 2 Thes 3. and are busie-bodies he hath placed in his Church different orders some shepherds some sheep some Teachers of the word some to be taught as their places so their works are distinct This takes away the distinction between shepherds and flock Pastor and people c. Ans 1. We have proved that the preaching of gifted Brethren is a part of that order which Christ hath appointed therefore doth neither confound nor disturb that order which God hath set in his Church If Christ hath allowed their preaching then it is their work and in doing of it they walk orderly We have shewn before that it doth belong to their place and calling to preach and thither we refer the Reader 2. The preaching of persons not designed to Office doth not take away the distinction between shepherds and flock Teachers and some Taught because they do not act under such a relation towards them as Officers do A Father may reach and instruct his children as a Father another man may instruct and teach the same children as a School-master yet these relations are not destroyed or confounded hereby though both doe the same work Here are Fatherly teachings and yet the distinction between the Master and Scolar is not taken away and the same may be said if a friend Teacheth them who stands in no such relation to them It is a common practice in Schools for some youths of ripe wits and wel learned by the appointment of the School-master to be often set to teach fellow-scholars and yet the