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A30520 A discovery of some part of the war between the kingdom of the Lamb and the kingdom of Anti-Christ held forth in this account of several disputes and queries between a Minister of Christ (really so) and one that hath the name of a Minister, but is proved to be a Minister and member of Anti-Christ by evident testimonies : and is a short account of the covetousnesse, ignorance, envy, and the fruits of darkness brought forth by C. Fowler ... / by Edw. Burrough. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1659 (1659) Wing B5999A; ESTC R27139 22,780 34

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of sprinkling Infants and administring of Bread and Wine among unconverted people was never ordained of God nor practised amongst the Apostles if thou sayest it was prove it out of the Scriptures or else stop thy mouth and to deny such Ordinances and Practises which God never commanded nor the Saints of former ages ever practised is not Antichristian nor Heresie but thus do the Quakers and therefore they are not Antichristian nor Hereticks upon this accompt And thus thy Proposition is not worth any thing for the end proposed by thee but thy weakness and folly is made manifest and thy Idolatrous practises so much pleaded for by thee are denied and opposed by the Spirit of the Lord Answer to the sixth As for the sin of Infants we do say that Infants in general that is to say every particular Infant that is or hath been born into the world hath sin for some were filled with the Holy Ghost and some were sanctified from their Mothers womb and what sin had such And the Scripture speaks that the unbelieving Wife is sanctified by the believing Husband else were your children unclean but now are they holy And what sin had these So that thy major is proved defective and so thy minor and thy conclusion is worth nothing though as to the general part we do believe there is a nature whereby all are children of wrath in degeneration Answer to the seventh This is a false accusation thy minor Proposition and is a lye and so thy conclusion is utterly false Answer to the eighth As for the Christian Sabbath we do not deny that for Christ is the Saints Rest and the seventh day of the week is the Jewes Sabbath and not the Christian Sabbath and so this is but a false accusation as the rest And as for the first day of the week which you observe for Sabbath you have neither binding example nor express command in Scripture for that practice Answer to the ninth As for the singing of Davids Psalms in Rhime and Meeter and in the custome as practised amongst you we do utterly deny to be any Ordinance of God or any part of his Worship though you say it is yet we never had other proof of you than tradition of time and long custome and by this you would seem to plead the practice to be a duty But this satisfies not us though we do not quarrel nor deride at your practice in this particular as thou grounds thy argument but this we do we freely give our testimony against your practice from time to time in the fear and Power of the Lord yet not as quarrelling and deriding after the 〈◊〉 Though we do say they were composed in Rhime and Metter by Sternhold and Hopkins and others which 〈◊〉 Musitioners to the Queen and in this we say true and are neither ignorant foolish nor prophane as thou sayest ● and we give witness against such your practise to be Antichristian and you Deceivers of the people thereby so hereby is thy conclusion made void and a place is brought in for another they that act such things and observe such practises in pretence of Honour and Worship to God which is not commanded nor instituted of God nor which his Spirit leads unto They are idolaters and their worship and their practise is abomination unto the Lord But thus do the Ministers and people of the Church of England and therefore the Ministers and people of the Church of England are Idolaters and their practises abomination unto the Lord Answer to the tenth Thy minor Proposition I do deny for we do not charge the Office and Call of the Ministers of the Church of England with lies and calumnies but this we say their Office and their Call is not from the Lord nor by the authority of his Spirit neither is their Office and Call according to the Scriptures but it is different and contrary both to the Spirit of God and the Scriptures and is not from heaven but rather from the Whore of Rome And though we do affirm these things concerning the Ministry of England yet we do not charge it with lyes and calumnies but we speak the truth in righteousness And what would C. Fowler and his Brethren have said of the true Prophets that called the Priests and Watchmen of Israel that were made by Divine Institution which the Office and Call of Englands Ministry never was that called them blind Watchmen and greedy dumb dogs and devourers of Souls Might not they have said to the true Prophets you charge the Office and Call of the Priests of the Lord with lyes and slanders And this is like the case between us and the Priests of England And did not Christ call the Chief-Priests Serpents Vipers and hipocrites and those Priests were in their office and call of Gods institution but might not they have said that he charged the office and call of the Priest-hood with calumines c. and the case is the same with us and it is accounted no sin by the Lord for us to give our witnesse against the wayes and practices of the Priests of England and utterly to deny both its office and call for they that do professe their office and call to be of God and from him and yet can give no true testimony thereof by the Spirit of God and according to the Scriptures such are deceived and deceivers of others but such are the Priests of England and therefore c. And thus I have returned Answer to his tenn propositions and laid down some others in their place His being confounded and I must leave it to be judged of by the witnesse in every mans Conscience whether he hath not shewed his madnesse and folly in his matter and in the way of his proceedings as for the matter he charges us withall it s wholely invalid as for the end proposed by him and we account of his worke as but the malice of an Anti-christan spirit and as for his proceedings they are inconsistant with a Minister of Christ for him and his brethren to fly from me at his dispute at East Ham●teed before mentioned as being not able to defend their cause this he and they did as many in that country knows and then for him the next morning when I did invite him to meet again upon sober reasons which he also denied and refused to meet me any more and yet afterwards when I was gone out of the country to go and hatch such mischief in his mind as to invent tenn such vain arguments and cause them to set up on the Steeple-house-door on purpose to villify and reproach the Innocent people of God this was his wickednesse as all upright men may see and further for him to challenge to dispute these particulars and leave time and place to our appointing which when time and place was appointed sutable and equitable on all parts and yet for him to refuse to meet at that time and place this was his