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A63227	The tryals of Thomas Walcot, William Hone, William Lord Russell, John Rous & William Blagg for high-treason for conspiring the death of the King, and raising a rebellion in this kingdom at the Sessions-House in the Old-Baily, London, on a commission of oyer and terminer held there for the city of London and county of Middlesex, on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, July 12, 13 and 14, 1683.	Walcot, Thomas, d. 1683.; Hone, William, d. 1683.; Russell, William, Lord, 1639-1683.; Rouse, John, d. 1683.; Blague, William.; England and Wales. Court of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery (London and Middlesex).	1683 (1683)	Wing T2265; ESTC R21861	139,903	84

that the Negotiation which he had with my Correspondents was going on and in good Condition and it was earnestly desired I would come to Town this was the middle of September I notwithstanding was willing to see the result of that great Affair upon which all Mens Eyes were fixed which was the Determination of the Sherivalty about that time So I ordered it to fall into Town and went to my own House on Saturday night which was Michaelmas day On Sunday he came to me and Dined with me and told me after a general Account given me of the Affairs of the times that my Lord Shaftesbury was secretted and withdrawn from his own House in Aldersgate-Street and that though he had a Family setled and had absconded himself from them and divers others of his Friends and Confidents yet he did desire to speak with me and for that purpose sent him to shew me the way to his Lodging He brought me to a House at the lower end of Wood-street one Watson's House and there my Lord was alone He told me he could not but be sensible how Innocent soever he was both he and all honest Men were unsafe so long as the Administration of Justice was in such Hands as would accomodate all things to the Humor of the Court. That in the Sense of this he thought it but reasonable to provide for his own Safety by withdrawing himself from his own House into that Retirement That now he had ripen'd Affairs to that head and had things in that Preparation that he did not doubt but he should be able by those Men that would be in readiness in London to turn the Tide and put a stop to the Torrent that was ready to overflow But he did complain to me that his design and the design of the Publick was very much obstructed by the unhandsome Deportment of the Duke of Monmouth and my Lord Russel who had withdrawn themselves not only from his Assistance but from their own Ingagements and Appointments For when he had got such a formed Force as he had in London and expected to have it answered by them in the Country they did recede from it and told him they were not in a Condition or Preparation in the Country to be concurrent with him at that time This he looked upon but as an artificial Excuse and as an instance of their Intentions wholly to desert him but notwithstanding there was such Preparation made in London that if they were willing to lose the Honour of being concurrent with him he was able to do it himself and did intend speedily to put it into Execution I asked him what Forces he had he said he had enough sayes I what are you assured of Sayes he there is above Ten Thousand brisk Boys are ready to follow me when ever I hold up my Finger Sayes I how have you methoded this that they shall not be crushed for there will be a great Force to oppose you Yes he answered but they would possess themselves of the Gates and these Ten Thousand Men in twenty four Hours would be multiplied into five times the Number and be able to make a Sally out and possess themselves of White-Hall by beating the Guards I told him this was a fair Story and I had reason to think a Man of his figure would not undertake a thing that might prove so fatal unless it were laid on a Foundation that might give a prudent Man ground to hope it would be Successful He said he was certain of it but confessed it was a great disappointment that these Lords had failed him I told him I was not provided with an Answer at that time That he well knew me and knew the general frame and bent of my Spirit But I told him I looked upon it as dangerous and ought to be laid deep and to be very well weighed and considered of and did not think it a thing fit to be entred upon without the Concurrence of those Lords And therefore desired before I discovered my own Inclination to discourse with those Lords He did consents with much ado but sayes he you will find they will wave it and give doubtful and deferring Answers but you will find this a Truth I went to Moor-Parke the next day where the Duke of Monmouth was and told him the great Complaint my Lord Shaftesbury had made that he failed him Sayes he I think he is mad I was so far from giving him any incouragement that I did tell him from the beginning and so did my Lord Russel there was nothing to be done by us in the Country at that time I did not then own I had seen my Lord but spake as if this were brought me by a third Person because he had not given me Liberty to tell them where his Lodging was Sayes I My Lord I shall be able to give a better account of this in a day or two Shall I convey it to my Lord that you are willing to give a Meeting Yes sayes he with all my Heart This was the Second Third or Fourth of Octobre I came to Town on Saturday and was carried to him on Monday and I suppose this was Tuesday the Second of October On Wednesday I think I went to him again but 't is not very material and told him I had been with the Duke of Monmouth and given him a punctual Account of what I had from him and the Duke did absolutely disown any such thing and told me he never did give him any incouragement to proceed that way because the Countries were not in a disposition for Action nor could be put in readiness at that time Sayes my Lord Shaftesbury 'T is false they are afraid to own it And sayes he I have reason to believe there is some artificial Bargain between his Father and him to Save one another For when I have brought him to Action I could never get him to put on and therefore I suspect him And sayes he several honest Men in the City have puzled me in asking how the Duke of Monmouth lived Sayes he they puzled me and I could not answer the Question for I know he must have his Living from the King and sayes he We have different Prospects We are for a Common-Wealth and he hath no other Design but his own personal Interest and that will not go down with My People now so he called them they are all for a Common-Wealth And then sayes he 'T is to no purpose for me to see him it will but widen the Breach and I dare not trust him to come hither Sayes I My Lord That 's a good one indeed Dare not you trust him and yet do you send me to him on this Errand Nay sayes he 'T is because we have had some Mis-understanding of late but I believe he is true enough to the Interest Sayes I 'T is a great unhappiness to take this time to Fall out and I think 't is so great a Design that

undertake it So about three or four meetings after Captain Walcot came and he was resolved at last to join in the matter but he would not have an hand in attacking the Coach but he would command a Party that should charge the Guards L. C. J. What did he say Col. Rumsey He would not meddle with the King in the Coach but he would command a Party that should charge the Guards that came along with him Mr. Att. Gen. After what manner was it setled that it should be done Col. Rumsey There were several Parties one small Party was to have killed the Postillion another to kill the Horses and Mr. Rumbold with a certain number to seise the Coach and Capt. Walcot the Guards Mr. Att. Gen. Where was it to be done Col. Rumsey At Mr. Rumbold's house L. C. J. Where is that Col. Rumsey Near Hodsdon L. C. J. For what purpose was Mr. Rumbold and those other men to attacque the Coach Col. Rumsey To murder the King and the Duke L. C. J. How was it designed to be done by Pistol or how Col. Rumsey By Blunderbusses and if they mist then Swords Mr. Att. Gen. Did they give any Directions about preparing Arms Col. Rumsey When that time fail'd after the Fire fell out at New-Market L. C. J. When was this to be done Col. Rumsey When the King returned from New-Market L. C. J. About what time Col. Rumsey The Saturday before Easter L. C. J. I don't ask you the day but was it when the King was last at New-Market or before Col. Rumsey Last at New-Market L. C. J. When he was last at New-Market in his return from thence Col. Rumsey In his return from thence L. C. J. Whereabouts Col. Rumsey At Rumbold's house which is near Hodsdon L. C. J. In Hertfordshire Col. Rumsey In Hertfordshire L. C. J. And you say those methods were chalked out by them that Rumbold and some others were to attacque the Coach others to kill the Postillion others to kill the Horses and this Gentleman with a commanded Party was to fall upon the Guards You say this Col. Rumsey Yes my Lord. Capt. Walcot I would beg leave my Lord L. C. J. Stay Captain Walcot you shall have leave to ask him any thing by and by but you must first let the Kings Council have done with him Mr. Att. Gen. I would ask you what you know of a design at any other time Col. Rumsey I do know nothing I heard by Mr. West but I knew nothing before L. C. J. Mr. Rumsey About what time was this resolution taken up as near as you can I ask neither the Day nor the Week but about what Month Col. Rumsey The beginning of it was in February L. C. J. Last February Col. Rumsey Last February Mr. Ferguson and Capt. Walcot came to this Town upon Ash-wednesday Mr. S. Jeffreys What other meetings were you at Sir Col. Rumsey This was the first when the Prisoner at the Bar came in The first time was at Mr. West's Chamber where he came There it was considered and debated Mr. S. Jeffreys Very well you say that was the first time Capt. Walcot came in Col. Rumsey It was at Mr. West's Chamber This was before the King came from New-Market that they were to do this and the number of men could not be got ready so there were several meetings afterward at Mr. West's Chamber to consult whether they could raise the number they resolved upon and there were Notes brought by Mr. Goodenough and Mr. Rumbold of many names I cannot say who else brought notes of the mens names to see that they might not be deceived in the number and at that time Capt. Walcot was there and did undertake to go to Mr. Rumbold's house and I think did go down to the very place L. C. J. Look you Sir was there any number of men insisted upon for doing this villany Col. Rumsey Capt. Rumbold did insist upon 50. men L. C. J. But Capt. Walcot how many was he to have Col. Rumsey It was not divided to a perfect number Mr. S. Jeffreys What other meetings were you at with Captain Walcot Col. Rumsey I was at the Salutation with him and the green Dragon with him Mr. S. Jeffreys Where is that Col. Rumsey The green Dragon is upon Snow-Hill Mr. S. Jeffreys Where is the Salutation Col. Rumsey In Lumbard-street Mr. S. Jeffreys Now tell what discourses you had there Col. Rumsey That was about dividing the City into 20 parts to see how many men could be raised out of every part and they were to be divided into fifteenths and every man to lead a fifteenth that they might not be at a loss Mr. Att. Gen. Who was intrusted with this to do it Col. Rumsey Mr. Goodenough Mr. West and Mr. Wade Mr. Att. Gen. What account did they give of what they had done Col. Rumsey M. Goodenough gave an account of 7 parts of the 20. and said out of them would be raised 2900 men and made an estimate that the other 13. would not raise above as many more for those were the most considerable parts as Wapping and Southwark Mr. S. Jeffreys Mr. Ramsey Pray what consultation had you afterward and what was done after L. C. J. Pray let us go on a little gradatim What was the reason that this was not effected when the King returned from New-Market Col. Rumsey The fire happened and brought the King sooner from New-Market than the men could be got ready L. C. J. Was there a day appointed for the doing this had you a prospect when the King would return Col. Rumsey Yes it was commonly talked that it would be the Saturday before Easter but he came on the Tuesday before L. C. J. Then give us an account how that design was disappointed at that time Col. Rumsey The fire happened in New-Market and they were all in a confusion and could not get their men ready by Tuesday the news came upon Friday to Town L. C. J. Of the fire Col. Rumsey Of the fire and there was a meeting Mr. Ferguson lodged then in Covent-Garden and sent to several to come to him to see if men could be got together against Tuesday when the King was to come in and it could not be done and it was laid aside for that time Mr. Att. Gen. Upon that what resolution was taken Col. Rumsey Then they had a meeting and Ferguson was not there there was Cap. Walcot Mr. West and Mr. Goodenough this was immediately after this disappointment I am not certain whether it was in Mr. West's Chamber and that there might no accident happen afterwards to hinder it it was resolved that money should be raised for the buying of Arms and Mr. Ferguson undertook to raise money to buy Arms and Mr. West did undertake to provide them Mr. Att. Gen. Who undertook to provide men Col. Rumsey Mr. Goodenough and Mr. Rumbold L. C. J. Look you Colonel Rumsey after this disappointment when this next

Keeling Who was sworn Mr. Att. Gen. Pray will you acquaint my Lord and the Jury what you know of these Conspiracies and touching this man Mr. Keeling Some time my Lord before the King went to Newmarket I was at the Sun-Tavern and in company with Richard Rumbold Richard Goodenough and some others Goodenough calls me forth of the Room and asked me what Men I could procure I asked him For what purpose He said To go down towards Newmarket I asked For what end He said To kill the King and the Duke of York I told him I thought none Before the King came from Newmarket he renewed his Question to me again several times I had in the interim some discourse with Burton and Thomson Burton told me That Barbor would be concern'd and he also told me Thomson would The Saturday after the Fire hapned at Newmarket Rumbold came down to my House or the Friday the day that the News was of the Fire the day that he commonly came to Town he came to my House it was on the Friday to see those men I could procure and he desired to see them on the morrow which was the Saturday before the King returned the Saturday after the Fire I went into London and met Mr. Rumbold that day at the Exchange and he then put me in mind of the matter again I did go to Burton and Thomson and Barbor the place appointed on Saturday was the Mitre-Tavern at the corner of Dukes-place within Aldgate He did meet there where there was some discourse hapned tending to that matter by Rumbold the substance of which was Whether they were willing to go down I think he call'd the Place by the name of The Rye that is his House there being says he no greater conveniency than in that I believe scarce in England for the executing such a Design being an House very intire to it self and very remote from Neighbors besides the advantage that belongs to it of a Court or Wall And among other discourse this was an Argument to prevail with those persons For saith he it will be a keeping one of the Commandments to kill the King and the Duke of York for says he if that be not done there will be otherwise a great deal of Bloodshed committed He also told us the way that he design'd to effect this at his House That he had a conveniency for our Horses and that there would be so many appointed to shoot at the Postillon and the Horses and that there would be so many appointed at the Coach and so many Men to attaque the Guards And if there was a Failure in shooting the Coach-Horses that then there should be Men in the habit of Country-men with a Cart in the Lane and they should run this Cart athwart the Lane and so stop the Coach I believe there might be some other Particulars which at present I do not remember From thence we went to the Exchange and there we met in the Afternoon at the Dolphin-Tavern in Bartholomew-lane there was Rumbold West Goodenough and Hone the Joyner And after we had been there a little West asked Rumbold Whether he heard the King would come home that Night Ho said Yes he heard so but said West I believe he won't come till Monday and I hope he won't come till Saturday for that was the day appointed to go down to Rye to meet the King and the Duke of York Said Rumbold I hope they will not come till then But said West if they do come How many Swan-quills must you have How many Goose-quills And how many Crows-quills with Sand and Ink must you have Said they Six Swan-quills Twenty Goose-quills and Twenty or thirty Crow-quills L. C. J. Explain that Mr. Keeling I am coming to it I asked West or Rumbold or both of them what they intended by it they told me Swan-quils were Blunderbusses Goose-quills Musquets and Crows-quils were Pistols Sand and Ink Powder and Bullet This is all my Lord as I remember in general as to the Design L. C. J. What can you say concerning the Prisoner at the Barr Mr. Keeling I was at the Salutation Tavern and Captain Walcot was there and when I came in there was some person called me Culing and I a little stranged at it not knowing the meaning says I Gentlemen what do you design by it says one here 's a good health to our English Culing says West Culing in Dutch is Keeling in English and says Mr. West I hope to see Mr. Keeling at the head of as good an Army in Wapping as Culing is at Collen I suppose Captain Walcot remembers it very well I can say no more Sir to the Prisoner at the Barr I remember not to have seen him any other time upon this Design Mr. Serj. Jefferies Would the Prisoner at the Bar ask him any questions Cap. Walcot My Lord I don't remember any such thing If you please my Lord to ask him whether I call'd him Culing or said any thing more or less to him Mr. Keeling I don't say you did but you were by that I say Mr. Serj. Jeffreys I think Mr. Keeling you were the person that made the discovery give an account of it for the satisfaction of the world L. C. J. Upon what occasion did you reveal this Mr. Keeling If your Lordship please I will give you an account There was something happened before that time Some time before this thing was discovered Goodenough came down to my house and I went with him to drink a dish of Coffee and there was in company with him Richard Rumbold and his Brother William that I believe Mr. Walcot knows and when we were by our selves he pulls out some papers out of his pocket and gave me one I asked him what he meant he told me he had divided the City and Suburbs into twenty parts and there was three divisions and says he you know the persons better than I and who you can trust with it one is for your self and I would have you take to your assistance nine or ten men more or less that you can communicate it safely to and they were to go to several persons and ask them supposing that the Papists should rise or that there should be a general Insurrection or a French Invasion Are you in a posture of defence This was all we were to communicate of the matter to them and this was to feel them and see how many men they could raise And he told me there was a design to kill the King and the Duke which was design'd to be done at the Bull-feast for Mr. West had told me it was to be done between Windsor and Hampton-Court I asked him if that Design went on and he said no for the Duke of York seldom came with the King from Windsor to Hampton-Court but it was to be at the Bull-Feast And says he these men are to be in a readiness and it s designed that the thing should be laid upon the