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A69734 A narrative of the depositions of Robert Jenison Esq with other material evidences, plainly proving that Mr. William Ireland, lately executed for high treason, was in London the nineteenth of August, 1678, notwithstanding his condfident denial thereof both at his tryal and execution / collected by Charles Chetwind, Esq. Chetwind, Charles.; Jenison, Robert, 1648-1688. 1679 (1679) Wing C3792; ESTC R9115 25,253 18

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us the sixth seventh eighth and ninth L. C. J. How many days did he travel along with you Sir Jo. Southcot He travel'd along with us four days together I am sure L. C. J. What from the fifth to the ninth Sir Jo. Southcot Yes Sir L. C. J. Is this all that you can say Sir Jo. Southcot Yes my Lord. L. C. J. But we would know where he was afterwards did you see him after the ninth Sir Jo. Southcot My Lord I saw him at St. Albans and we went from thence to Northampton and from thence to Coventry and from thence to my Lord Astons that is four days and I saw him Thursday I saw him Friday Saturday and Monday following Tuesday I had occasion to go further into the Countrey and he went along with us so I saw him Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Fryday afterwards L. C. J. Why then you saw him at least twelve days Sir Jo. Southcot Yes L. C. J. Have you any more Then Mr. Edward Southcot stood up L. C. J. Were you here when Ireland was tried Sir Jo. Southcot No. L. C. J. Did you see Mr. Ireland in August last Mr. Southcot The third of August he came down to my Lord Astons at Stanmore they said so but I cannot swear he came that night but I saw him very early the next morning the 5th we went to St. Albans and we kept on till we came to Tinall and I was in his company from the 4th to the 16th L. C. J. Why you hear what he says he was in Company with him every day from the 4th to the 16th Gavan Call Mrs. Harewell and her daughter Mrs. Gifford and Mrs. Pendrel Then Mrs. Harewell stood up L. C. J. Did you see Mr. Ireland in August last Harewell I saw Ireland in August last the 17th day he came then to my house at Wolverhampton and there he continued every day and lay in my house every night till the 26th day Then young Mrs. Harewell stood up Harewell Mr. Ireland came to our house in Staffordshire the 17th of August and stayed there till the 26th I saw him every day unless it was Friday the day before Bartholomew-day when he went to Litehfield and returned again Gavan My Lord there is a Prisoner now in Newgate that can testifie the same L. C. J. North. Would you ask your fellow if you be a Thief he is in for the same offence Gavan My Lord I desire to know if a man be not convicted of the same offence whether he be not a good witness L. C. J. North. If he stand charged with the same Plot his Evidence is of little weight Then Elisabeth Keiling stood up L. C. J. Did you see Mr. Ireland in August Keiling Yes my Lord I did p. 73. L. C. J. Where did you see him Keiling I saw him at Wolverhampton there he was from Saturday the 17th to Monday and then I went to see my Mother and came back again on Thursday and found him there and there he was till the 26th Then stood up Mr. Gifford L. C. J. When did you see Mr. Ireland Gifford My Lord Mr. Ireland came to Wolverhampton the 17th of August and he stayed there till the 26th it was of a Monday I remember it by several circumstances L. C. J. Did you know Mr Ireland Gifford I never saw him before L. C. J. Do you know it was the same that died Gifford My Lord here was my brother in Town who saw him executed and he did assure me he was the same I saw him again the 2d of September and the 7th of September again and the 10th and the 11th my Lord he was the same man I believe because my brother told me so p. 74. Sir Cr. Levins Gentlemen of the Jury you have heard the Prisoners and they have had a great deal of time to make their defence but the greatest part of their defence hath been to invalidate the Testimony of Mr. Oates and what is the Evidence they have brought against him they tell you first that he did not come over in this Company that he says he came over with And whereas he hath sworn he was here the 24th of April they have taken a great deal of pains by fifteen or sixteen Witnesses to prove that he was all the time at St. Omers P. 76. Sir C. Levins Now as for Mr. Oates Testimony and what they have to say to him in the first place they have brought a young Gentleman Mr. Hilsley and he says he did not come over with him and there 't is one against one but Dr. Oates hath Sworn it and hath given you such convincing Circumstances how he lost his money c. so that I leave it to you which of the two is in the right and ought to be believed But then my Lord as to the rest of the Witnesses here are a great many brought over to prove that Dr. Oates was all the while at St. Omers but I shall bring you a considerable number of Witnesses to prove that Dr. Oates was then in London and that all these Persons are mistaken They do all pitch upon the first of May to six it upon a time wherein he says he was here in Town But Gentlemen I hope you did observe that as to other things and time that were not so necessary as to this matter there they were pleased to mistake and to differ one from another to contradict one another for some of them said he went away and left St. Omers the 10th of June others the 23d others which was the same Flemish Gardiner that he stay'd till July Truly half that variance in the time which is necessary would serve our turn we are but for eight days time that is he was not above eight or ten days here truly these Gentlemen will be sure to speak punctually to all those eight days that hurt the Prisoners but they will vary thirty days at another time that hurts them not Why may they not be mistaken as well with that portion of time as they were in the other wherein they so much differed one from another But I shall give you most infallable proof by and by that Mr. Oates was in England at that time that he said he was in England This he does in the Trials of Whitebread c. from Pag. 79. to Pag. 85. to which the Reader is referred Pag. 77. Sir Ch. Levins Then truly my Lord they are fixed upon another great matter to blemish Dr. Oates as to Mr Ireland a person that is dead and out of the way Mr. Ireland hath been hanged upon that Evidence so far it was believed but now after all this will these Gentlemen come to question the Evidence that was given against Mr. Ireland They have likewise my Lord brought my Lady Southcot and some other persons who give you an Evidence concerning Mr. Ireland that he should not be here at this time but Gentlemen under favour Mr. Oates hath sworn before and