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A69734	A narrative of the depositions of Robert Jenison Esq with other material evidences, plainly proving that Mr. William Ireland, lately executed for high treason, was in London the nineteenth of August, 1678, notwithstanding his condfident denial thereof both at his tryal and execution / collected by Charles Chetwind, Esq.	Chetwind, Charles.; Jenison, Robert, 1648-1688.	1679 (1679)	Wing C3792; ESTC R9115	25,253	18

us the sixth seventh eighth and ninth L. C. J. How many days did he travel along with you Sir Jo. Southcot He travel'd along with us four days together I am sure L. C. J. What from the fifth to the ninth Sir Jo. Southcot Yes Sir L. C. J. Is this all that you can say Sir Jo. Southcot Yes my Lord. L. C. J. But we would know where he was afterwards did you see him after the ninth Sir Jo. Southcot My Lord I saw him at St. Albans and we went from thence to Northampton and from thence to Coventry and from thence to my Lord Astons that is four days and I saw him Thursday I saw him Friday Saturday and Monday following Tuesday I had occasion to go further into the Countrey and he went along with us so I saw him Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Fryday afterwards L. C. J. Why then you saw him at least twelve days Sir Jo. Southcot Yes L. C. J. Have you any more Then Mr. Edward Southcot stood up L. C. J. Were you here when Ireland was tried Sir Jo. Southcot No. L. C. J. Did you see Mr. Ireland in August last Mr. Southcot The third of August he came down to my Lord Astons at Stanmore they said so but I cannot swear he came that night but I saw him very early the next morning the 5th we went to St. Albans and we kept on till we came to Tinall and I was in his company from the 4th to the 16th L. C. J. Why you hear what he says he was in Company with him every day from the 4th to the 16th Gavan Call Mrs. Harewell and her daughter Mrs. Gifford and Mrs. Pendrel Then Mrs. Harewell stood up L. C. J. Did you see Mr. Ireland in August last Harewell I saw Ireland in August last the 17th day he came then to my house at Wolverhampton and there he continued every day and lay in my house every night till the 26th day Then young Mrs. Harewell stood up Harewell Mr. Ireland came to our house in Staffordshire the 17th of August and stayed there till the 26th I saw him every day unless it was Friday the day before Bartholomew-day when he went to Litehfield and returned again Gavan My Lord there is a Prisoner now in Newgate that can testifie the same L. C. J. North. Would you ask your fellow if you be a Thief he is in for the same offence Gavan My Lord I desire to know if a man be not convicted of the same offence whether he be not a good witness L. C. J. North. If he stand charged with the same Plot his Evidence is of little weight Then Elisabeth Keiling stood up L. C. J. Did you see Mr. Ireland in August Keiling Yes my Lord I did p. 73. L. C. J. Where did you see him Keiling I saw him at Wolverhampton there he was from Saturday the 17th to Monday and then I went to see my Mother and came back again on Thursday and found him there and there he was till the 26th Then stood up Mr. Gifford L. C. J. When did you see Mr. Ireland Gifford My Lord Mr. Ireland came to Wolverhampton the 17th of August and he stayed there till the 26th it was of a Monday I remember it by several circumstances L. C. J. Did you know Mr Ireland Gifford I never saw him before L. C. J. Do you know it was the same that died Gifford My Lord here was my brother in Town who saw him executed and he did assure me he was the same I saw him again the 2d of September and the 7th of September again and the 10th and the 11th my Lord he was the same man I believe because my brother told me so p. 74. Sir Cr. Levins Gentlemen of the Jury you have heard the Prisoners and they have had a great deal of time to make their defence but the greatest part of their defence hath been to invalidate the Testimony of Mr. Oates and what is the Evidence they have brought against him they tell you first that he did not come over in this Company that he says he came over with And whereas he hath sworn he was here the 24th of April they have taken a great deal of pains by fifteen or sixteen Witnesses to prove that he was all the time at St. Omers P. 76. Sir C. Levins Now as for Mr. Oates Testimony and what they have to say to him in the first place they have brought a young Gentleman Mr. Hilsley and he says he did not come over with him and there 't is one against one but Dr. Oates hath Sworn it and hath given you such convincing Circumstances how he lost his money c. so that I leave it to you which of the two is in the right and ought to be believed But then my Lord as to the rest of the Witnesses here are a great many brought over to prove that Dr. Oates was all the while at St. Omers but I shall bring you a considerable number of Witnesses to prove that Dr. Oates was then in London and that all these Persons are mistaken They do all pitch upon the first of May to six it upon a time wherein he says he was here in Town But Gentlemen I hope you did observe that as to other things and time that were not so necessary as to this matter there they were pleased to mistake and to differ one from another to contradict one another for some of them said he went away and left St. Omers the 10th of June others the 23d others which was the same Flemish Gardiner that he stay'd till July Truly half that variance in the time which is necessary would serve our turn we are but for eight days time that is he was not above eight or ten days here truly these Gentlemen will be sure to speak punctually to all those eight days that hurt the Prisoners but they will vary thirty days at another time that hurts them not Why may they not be mistaken as well with that portion of time as they were in the other wherein they so much differed one from another But I shall give you most infallable proof by and by that Mr. Oates was in England at that time that he said he was in England This he does in the Trials of Whitebread c. from Pag. 79. to Pag. 85. to which the Reader is referred Pag. 77. Sir Ch. Levins Then truly my Lord they are fixed upon another great matter to blemish Dr. Oates as to Mr Ireland a person that is dead and out of the way Mr. Ireland hath been hanged upon that Evidence so far it was believed but now after all this will these Gentlemen come to question the Evidence that was given against Mr. Ireland They have likewise my Lord brought my Lady Southcot and some other persons who give you an Evidence concerning Mr. Ireland that he should not be here at this time but Gentlemen under favour Mr. Oates hath sworn before and

he hath now sworn it again that Mr. Ireland was at that time in London and Gentlemen I will confirm him in that by another Witness that did see him here in Town at that time And when you have two Witnesses for the King upon their Oaths come and testifie it I hope you will beleive them rather then other persons that testifie only by Hear-say It was the matter then in Issue and had saved his Life if it had been true but though it be now setled and none could think it would be again started they would make that an Objection but by chance we have a Witness still to give you satisfaction that Mr. Ireland was in London at that time that Mr. Oates did swear him to be We will begin with that Witness about Ireland And then we will call our Witnesses to prove that Mr Oates was in England and did come over when he said he did Call Sarah Pain who was sworn Sir Ch. Levins What time did you see Mr. Ireland in London did you see him in August last S. Pain I saw him about 7 or 8 days before I came to my Lord Chamberlain and that was about a week before the King went to Windsor L. C. J. Where did you see him S. Pain At his own door in Russel-street L. C. J. Did you speak to him S. Pain No I knew him very well and saw him as I came by Sir Ch. Levins Had not you carried many Letters to him S. Pain Yes several Letters p. 78. Sir Ch. Levins But where did you live before S. Pain I lived at Mr. Grove's Sir Ch. Levins Did not Mr. Ireland use to come there too S. Pain Yes he did often L. C. Just Was any one talking with Ireland then S. Pain No. Sir Ch. Levins How long did you look upon him did you see him go in did you see his face or his back S. Pain I saw his face and made him a Courtesie L. C. J. This she said to Irelands face Mr. J. Dolben Your Evidence is that Mr. Ireland went out of Town the 5. of August and she says she saw him about that time which must be the 12th or 14th of August Gavan How does she prove it she does not say she spoke with him Mr. Just Dolben She swears it Sir Ch. Levins Now we must prove what time the King went to Windsor L. C. J. Sir Tho. Doleman what time in August did the King go to Windsor last Summer Sir Tho. Doleman I believe I cannot charge my memory so well it was the 13th it was about the 12th or 13. L. C. J. Was my Lord Chamberlain there then S. Pain My Lord Chamberlain went after the King L. C. J. And when do you say you saw Ireland S. Pain I saw him seven or eight days before I went to my Lord Chamberlains which was before my Lord went to Windsor and that was a week after the King went thither Sir Ch. Levins Now I 'le tell you what she says she says she saw Ireland a week before she went to my Lord Chamberlain's and she saw him go into Grove's House where he did usually go for Letters She says she saw his face and made him a Courtesie and that this was a week before she went to my Lord Chamberlains and that was a week after the King went to Windsor Now the time that Mr. Oates pitches upon is between the eighth and the twelfth of August which by computation is the time she speaks of P. 79. Gavan My Lord we have here 16 at least Staffordshire Witnesses who give you an account of Mr. Ireland's being out of London from the 3d of August till 14th of September So that in these two things he hath been contradicted without any answer for he says the 12th of August he was with him when they say he was in Staffordshire L. C. J. You have forgot the maid that saw him in London the 12. or 13th Gavan No my Lord I have not And this is it I answer to it she is a witness that only says she just saw him but did not speak to him L C. J. She made a Courtesie to him P. 86. Gavan We were talking now of seeing Ireland in August and we prove by Sir Jo. Southcot and all his Family who say they began their journey with him the 5th of August and staid with him till the 19th after the particular Day that she speaks of you find 7 or 8 of them swear that they saw him all the time P. 87. I will close up the Whole with a little of my Lord Chief Justices Speech at the end of the Tryals of Whitebread c. p. 92 93. Which though it may not at first seem to answer our particular design the demonstrating Ireland's being in London yet it truly answers our general design to con●●●● the reality of the Plot and in order thereunto it is a most noble Argument and really merits not only the transcribing into this Tract to fill up an empty space but even into the memories of all true Protestants L. C. J. I will challenge all the Papists in England to satisfie any man that hears me this day of one piece of Evidence which will turn every Protestants heart against the Papists If so be they murdered Sir Edmund-Bury Godfrey the Plot even by that is in a great measure proved upon them by that base murther And what can be a plainer proof of it than the evidence of this Day which Mr. Dugdale produces Who had notice saith he on Monday night that on the Saturday before it Sir Edm. Godfrey was kill'd which falls out to be that very Saturday he was first missing which notice was given in a Letter writ by Harcourt to Ewers ' another Priest that same Saturday night wherein were these words This night Sir Edmund-bury Godfrey is dispatched and I am sure if this be true then no man can say but they murdered Him Now the question is whether it be true or no To make it out he produces Mr. Chetwind whom I hope you will not deny to be a Gentleman of one of the best Families of his Country and of honest Reputation who says that on the Tuesday following that Saturday Sir Edmund-bury Godfrey was miss't he and another were walking together in Staffordshire and that the other Person asked him if he knew of the Death of any Justice of the Peace at Westminster and when he told him he had heard of no such thing No said he that is strange you living sometimes about Westminster for said he the Wench at the Ale-house says That this morning Mr. Dugdale said to two other Gentlemen there was a Justice of Peace of Westminster killed and Mr. Dugdale swears That was Sir Edmund-bury Godfrey now if Dugdale be fit to be believed that he saw such a Letter as he must be if he be not a very great Prophet to be able to foretell this or if the Maid that said this did not invent it a thing then impossible to be done or Mr. Chetwind feigned that he heard the Man make his report from the Maid this thing could not come to pass but by these men Nay if Mr. Dugdale could not do as great a Miracle as any are in the Popish Legends how could he tell that it was done on the same Night when it was done at London or speak of it on the Monday night after when it was not known in London till the Thursday following This will stick I assure you Sirs upon all your Party For my own part this evidence of Mr. Dugdals gives me the greatest satisfaction of any thing in the World in this matter and whilst we rest satisfied in the Murder of that Man and are morally certain you must do it knowing of what Principles you are you cannot blame us if upon such manifest reasons we lay it upon you And this is occasional Evidence which I for my part never heard before this day nor can I ever be more or better satisfied then I am upon this point viz. The Testimony that I have received this afternoon concerning the murder of Sir Edmund-bury Godfrey As to the defences they have made they are exceptions in point of time but do not effect Mr. Dugdale for they have hardly the confidence to deny the things he says to be true against them They fall foul indeed upon Mr. Oates He appears to have been their Agent and whilst so bad enough but if he had not had a mind to have become a good man he would not likely have done us that good that he hath done in discovering the Design you had engaged him in let any man judge by your Principles and Practices what you will not do for the promoting of the same FINIS

he had received timely enough might have very much cleared the Point of Irelands being in London in August last Mr. Jenison owned the Letter and continued the Discourse sometime after I saw the Letter and by the reading judged it might have been very Material the matter of the Letter being perfectly owned by Mr. Jenison June 26th 1679. M. Warton The Attestation of George Booth Esq I do attest this Matter that Sir Michael Warton has here attested George Booth The Information of Mr. Burnet What Sir Michael Warton has here said I know to be true the Day that Mr. Jenison went to Windsor I do believe to be the 17th of August last it was on a Saturday the day of Dochets Horse-race for I met him riding to Windsor as I came from the Horse-race W. Burnet The Information of Robert Bowes Esq About the latter end of December last I received a Letter from Mr. Robert Jenison which a little time after I shewed to Mr. Savill and Mr. Ewers of Lincolns-Inn and have now by me Mr. Jenison hath owned it all along and doth so still I have several times since discourst with him upon it I went to Windsor on the 12th or 13th of August last and staid a Night there and from thence to Henly where I staid untill the 6th of September following or thereabouts June 26th 1679. Rob. Bowes The Information of Ralph Marshal Gent. is That in or about the Month of February last being in discourse with Sir Michael Warton concerning Mr. Irelands being about that time Executed and concerning his denying his being in London in August last Sir Michael told this Informant That if Mr. Ireland were to be Tryed again it would be proved that he was in Town in August by Mr. Jenison a Gentleman of Quality of Grays-Inn Sir Michael then telling him also what discourse Mr. Jenison and Mr. Ireland had at that time together which discourse is particularly mentioned in a Letter in the hand of Mr. Bowes of Grays-Inn which Letter I have read and heard Mr. Jenison own to be his own hand Writing And this Informant further saith That he hath often heard Mr. Jenison say that he believeth the time he had the discourse with Mr. Ireland mentioned in his said Letter was the 19th of August last in the Afternoon he being come that morning from Windsor and that it was at one Mr. Coynoes house at the White-Hart in Russel-street Ralph Marshal These Informations above written were all Written and Subscribed by the Parties above named on the 26th of June 1679. Before us Edmond Warcupp Charles Chetwind Not to put you off with the Informations of Others concerning Mr. Jenisons Letter and Words we shall in the next Place give you the true Copy of the Letter and also of Two differing Informations of his both of them full as much if not more home to the purpose than what had been reported by others Mr. Jenisons Letter from Reading in Barkshire upon his return from the North. To Robert Bowes Esq Son to Sir Francis Bowes Mr. Jenison then being a Papist Reading December 19. 1678. SIR YOurs I have bearing Date the 15th instant and have not missed a Post I could send to you I am not ignorant of the offer made by His Majesties Proclamation and lay hold on nothing but Pardon for concealing that Circumstance I have known so long yet I did not altogether conceal it neither for I told my Cozin Smith of it within Two or Three days of the breaking out of this damnable Conspiracy which how much it weighs I am not a fit Judg of and I would not were it to gain a Million Nay a Million of Worlds if possible draw the least drop of innocent Blood upon me for I know it is a crying sin therefore I pray God avert it from me All that I can tell you as I hope for forgivness of my Sins and Eternal Salvation is if you will distinguish between the times what follows Being come from Windsor where I promised my self the happiness and satisfaction of seeing you that I might take my leave before my journey for the North which to the best of my Memory was about the latter end of August I went to do the same to Mr. Ireland whom then with all the rest I did believe to be a man of the best Conversation and Life in the world for you know the Law does presume every man good until it be proved otherwise After my salute and I had told him I had been at Windsor his Interrogatory or Question was what News My teturn was the usual no News but good then he proceeds to ask me to the best of my memory how his Sacred Majesty and the Court were diverted I replied that I heard his Majesty took much delight in Hawking and Fishing but chiefly in the latter which his Majesty followed early in the morning as I heard accompanied only with Two or Three Lords or other Attendants I wonder said Mr. Ireland why his Majesty should be so thin Guarded he were easily taken off or removed or some words to that purpose so sounding God forbid I returned No subjoyns he I do not say it is Lawful and something else I cannot call to mind that did qualifie the former words that I did then think his meaning was he was then sorry his Sacred Majesty should go so weakly guarded I then took it by that handle having no other Reason for I did believe him a Saint never hearing him nor any of them as I hope for everlasting life Defend or Maintain in the least That damnable Doctrine of deposing Kings But now I know that passage may be taken by the other handle and I am not fit to judg how far yet you know words are to be taken in the milder sense unless they be positive which these with their qualifications as they were spoken are not I suppose there is clearer Evidence from Mr. Oates that better know it than I. There is only another thing and I have cleared my Soul has run in my fancy ever since this ever to be detested Immergency happened which applyed to these times has an ill sound with it you know whom I accuse now Tho. Je. but in other times is capable of a good Construction viz. He had some business to acquaint me with and this for two or three times at our parting for I did not see him above Four or five times as I remember the while I was in London Once I urg'd him to tell me the business he replied he would take some other occasion now I did believe he meant somewhat about my setling in the world as a Match having propounded one to me of a Knights Daughter half a Year before or of that sort of business and 't is capable of that Construction still if there be no clearer Evidence to give a Luster and a great Light on the other side We have a good Author that commands us to give unto Caesar what is