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A86498	Dæmonologie, and theologie The first, the malady, demonstrating the diabolicall arts, and devillish hearts of men. The second, the remedy: demonstrating, God a rich supply of all good. By Doctor Nathanael Homes, [sic]	Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678.	1650 (1650)	Wing H2562; Thomason E1341_2; ESTC R209143	95,747	222

farr different events in the World have befallen them Where then is the certainety of Starr-predictions Where is the verity of Astrology It may be they will read us a Lecture of difference from magnitudes and motions of Starrs that some are bigger then the Earth some lesser againe that some finish some motions in twenty foure houres others not other motions in so many scores of yeares or more But if this be their defence the matter of predicting Astrology is thereby made to me more incredible For if as they say with Keckerman the Moone be lesse then the Earth at least twenty times and the rest of the Planets below the Sunne proportionably as Venus twenty seven times lesse then the Earth and Mercury two and twenty How then shall these at any posture at any one and the same time effect or signifie any thing to all the World For all the Astrologers in the World will undertake to prognosticate from these Planets upon all men on Earth borne at one and the same houre If the Sunne as they confesse be about an hundred and sixty times bigger then the Earth and all the Planets above the Sun proportionably as that Saturne is fourscore and eleven times bigger then the Earth Jupiter fourscore and fifteene times Mars one time bigger with one third how then is it that there is difference of natures and events in thousands borne at the same houre and especiall in Twins as we sayd afore If they say that this is because of the swift externall violent motion of all the Starrs Planets and Fixed that they are hurryed round the Earth by the first movable from East to West c. in twenty foure houres which is to runn sixty times sixty Miles in every houre then we demand how can the Starrs have time to make any distinct impression by any particular influence on one borne especially on one who perhaps may lie in the mouth of the womb partly borne partly unborne sometimes in the head and foreparts sometimes in the hinder parts for a quarter or halfe an houre or many houres Or what Astrologer upon the swiftnesse of those motions and the slownesse of the birth which cannot be borne in an instant but at best gradually shall be able to prognosticate punctually that such Starrs with such influence did so complexionate such an Infant at such a Minuit of time For by the computation aforesayd the Starrs run in the sayd motion in every minuit of the hour sixty Miles If Astrologers wil plead any thing to help themselves herein from the slownesse of other motions of the Starrs that are natural and internal to them as that all the fixed Starrs which are knowne by their twinckling to our sight move from North to South as they say so Alsted in three thousand five hundred yeares and back againe in three thousand five hundred yeares so that they finish not that motion under seven thousand yeares how then can any Age since the beginning of the World have experience what the Conjunction of the Starrs may produce So for the motions of the seven Planets If they say as Keckerman c. affirme that the Sun hath three Orbes First that in which the Sun it selfe is fixed and is the middle Orbe and is excentricall to the World that is The World or Earth is not just in the middle of it by reason whereof the Sun is sometimes in the Perige namely neerer the Earth for some moneths and sometimes in the Apoge to wit more remote from the Earth for other moneths And in this Eccentrick Orbe the Sun moves as they say according to the succession of the twelve Signes from West to East not finishing that motion under three hundred sixty five dayes and about six houres And withall as they assert that by reason of this Orbe the Sun moves as in relation to the center of the earth one while swifter another while slower that is to say it moves slower whiles it is on the Northern● part of the World lingering there an hundred eighty six dayes eight houres and twelve minuits but runs swifter on the Southerne part of the World dispatching its race in an hundred seventy eight dayes one and twenty hours and twelve minuits and so stayes longer with some of the Signes as they say and lesse while with others And that secondly The Sun hath as they say a supreme Orbe contiguously adjoyned above to the aforesayd Orbe Thirdly an inferiour Orbe in like manner adjoyned beneath to the sayd middle Orbe both partly Concentrick partly Eccentrick the use of which two Orbs as held forth by Astronomers I shall not here stay to relate And the motion of those two extreame Orbs is as they confesse very slow so that they finish not their course which is like some motion of the eighth Sphere under forty nine thousands of years as Keckerman affirmes All which makes mee againe demand how any men could ever attaine to a certaine experience of Conjunctions of Starrs seeing this number of forty nine thousand extends it selfe to an age above seven times older then the creation of the Starrs It would be too tedious to recite all the severall Orbes and motions of all the other Planets according to the common opinion as that the Moone hath five Orbes some of which move swifter then those of the Sun putting her twice every moneth in her Apoge or exaltation and twice in her Perige or descention with differences in both that in the same Apoge it is somtimes higher and sometimes lower and so in the same Perige and hath one motion that is not finished under eighteen yeares seven moneths and about twelve houres That Saturne hath a motion whose course takes up thirty yeares Jupiter one of twelve Mars one of two Venus of one And Mercuries motion as Keckerman affirmes Est admodum varius imo magnâ parte adhuc incognitus that is it is wonderfull various yea for the most part yet unknowne Now lay all these varieties and uncertainties together and then judge what certainty of experience there can be had of the conjunctions of Starrs just so long and so much as to make such a sure impression of such influences and efficacies on men in the birth as may duely and truely prognosticate that so shal such a man be and doe but so anothér especially in Twins The third Argument All rules of Sciences and Arts by the fundamental Position of Artists are Axiomes Maxims Theoremes Canons c. that is Most worthy and most speciall principles experiments or rules for their verity and certainety But such are not the rules of Astrology First Because of the foresayd various varieties and uncertainties of Starrs both in their owne motions and in comparison with others Secondly Because no man knoweth the particular qualities or efficacies of all the Starrs No Artist yet ever undertooke to speake of more then the seven Planets and some few nominated Fixed Starrs of some few severall magnitudes leaving out millions that are

because we can see the heeles of the lesser Northerne Beare adjacent to the North Pole to be downward towards the Earth in the evening and to be upward in the morning But we have no sure ground to conclude that there are more Heavens either the Chrystall ninth or the first moving tenth The grand reason brought to prove them from the two other motions of the eighth Heaven of fixed Starrs beside that from East to West in twenty foure houres as that the eighth Heaven of fixed Stars moves from West to East comming to be in the same posture as when they began that motion by the end of forty nine thousand yeares And that the same eighth Heaven hath another motion from South to North and thence to South againe which processe and recesse is a finishing seven thousand yeares and therefore that that motion of the eighth Heaven from East to West in twenty foure houres must needs be violent as forced from some tenth Heaven naturally so moving and that from West to East in forty nine thousand yeares must be also violent as forced from some ninth Heaven naturally so moving and the last motion of the eighth Heaven Viz. From South to North and back againe in seven thousand yeares to be the naturall peculiar innate motion of that eighth Heaven seeing that as they forme the Argument one simple single moveable body can have but one natural motion I say this Argument doth not evince my reason in the least to beleeve the existence and being of a ninth and tenth Heaven For God that by his Word at the beginning sayd to the Earth Stand thou still and to the Sea Move thou continually with severall motions as of flowing and reflowing twise every twenty foure houres and they obey his voice to this day the same God commanding the eighth Heaven to runn from East to West every twenty foure houres and withall to linger and slinck back every day a little from West to East as suppose with the Astronomer as much as comes to one Degree or sixty miles in an hundred yeares which is about three quarters of a mile in one yeare and halfe a quarter and also to roule forward from South to North and back againe from North to South so gradually till in seven hundred yeares it is as it was cannot choose but obey the voice of God and so move without ceasing And to throw away Traditions in Philosophy as well as in Divinity t is a readier way and surer to say God commanded the Heavens so to move at first creation and they obey then to say Primus motor God moves the Angels or Intelligences they move a tenth Heaven a tenth heaven moves the other heavens And to the clause of one natural body we say that there is hardly any naturall motion without some violent as the Philosopher cals violent For if fire ascends no more of the flame ascends in a pure natural motion but that which ascends in the Mathematical indivisible line in the point of the Pyramis pointing from the center-point of the earth to its correspondent point in the Sphere of the lowest Heaven Indeed if the Pyramicall forme of the flame were turned upside downe then all the flakes of flame might seeme to take their natural order proportionable from one center-point in the Earth to their severall correspondent points in the Sphere of the lowest Heaven So of any heavy body Stone or Bowle c. falling downe from some high places to the Earth no more of it moves naturally in a precise notion of naturally then the very middle of it tending downward in a Mathematicall strait Line to the Center-point of the Earth the corners of such a Stone or the circumference of that Bowle falling not with the like naturall motion because there is but one universal Center-point in the middle of the Earth to answer to all downward motions which is the Physicall demonstrative reason why naturally the Earth is round the heavy parts more pressing to the general Center-point the lighter lesser So the Water in its motion in a River it naturally tends downeward yet desires not to be so low as the Center of the Earth And the meane while it tends progressively forward and in this progressive motion no more is precisely naturall but what proceeds in a strait line For the water hath no minde of it selfe to goe out of its Line that being out of its way and besids its design So that either we must say one body may have many naturall motions or we must no more feigne more Heavens then eight to move the rest in their several motions then we dare feigne more Elements then foure to manage the severall motions that are in each one of them Secondly Touching the imaginarie Sphere the Zodiack this must needs be an infalible conclusion so far as the Heaven or firmament of the Zodiack is feigned so farr of necessity must the Zodiack supposed in that Heaven or firmament be a meer feigned thing We heard afore that most Learned Philosopher and Astronomer Keckerman lay it down for a sure rule That Astronomers may make and use Hypotheses that is Suppositions but Astrologers may not But the ninth and tenth Sphere or Heaven are feigned therefore the Zodiack imagined in them is also feigned T is worth the while to heare Alsted which is to our purpose what he sayth concerning the Zodiack The Zodiack saith he of the first mover that is the tenth Heaven is IMAGINARY of the eighth Sphere real The imaginary is Primaryly and ORIGINALLY in the first Mover or tenth Heaven in the inferior Spheres it is secondarily conceited The Reall changeth its situation the IMAGINARY doth note The signes also of the real Zodiack are wonderfull UNEQUAL but in the imaginary equall In accounts the imaginary Zodiack is more commodious but not so in predictions Thus you see how much fiction there is about the Zodiack and more honour ascribed to the feigned then to the reall Thirdly Touching the twelve imaginary Signes There is no such formes of Starrs as of themselves seeme such Compare Taurus and Aries And Aries lying under Balaena Tradition and Globes tell us such things but the Starrs of themselves cold never make us so imagine See the Celestial Globe Fourthly Touching the disorderly placing of the hott dry Signes in parts that are not hott and dry Note that Alsted a Learned Philosopher and was also an Astrologer at least in opinion affirmes in his System or Treatise of Astrologie that the twelve Signes are divided into foure Trigonos that is Ternions or Threes In primo trigono sunt signa ignea videlicet ARIES LEO SAGITTARIUS In his dominatur Calor siccitas quae dominantur cholerae sapori amaro that is In the first Ternion are the fiery Signes ARIES the Ram LEO the Lyon and SAGITTARIUS the Archer In these Signes are predominant heat and drynesse which have dominion and rule over Choler and bitternesse So Alsted