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A07809 The grand imposture of the (now) Church of Rome manifested in this one article of the new Romane creede, viz: the holy, catholike, and apostolike Romane Church, mother and mistresse of all other churches, without which there is no saluation. Proued to ba a new, false, sacrilegious, scandalous, schismaticall, hereticall, and blasphemous article (respectiuely) and euerie way damnable. The last chapter containeth a determination of the whole question, concerning the separation of Protestants from the present Church of Rome: whereby may be discerned whether side is to be accounted schismaticall, or may more iustly pleade soules saluation. By the B. of Couentrie & Lichfield. Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1626 (1626) STC 18186; ESTC S112909 370,200 394

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what_o need_v more_o preface_v these_o and_o the_o like_a question_n which_o may_v appertain_v to_o the_o article_n in_o hand_n may_v be_v more_o particular_o satisfy_v in_o the_o discourse_n itself_o which_o i_o shall_v desire_v you_o to_o accept_v with_o the_o same_o right-hand_a of_o christian_a affection_n wherewith_o it_o be_v offer_v unto_o you_o and_o that_o if_o any_o shall_v address_v a_o answer_n thereunto_o that_o then_o he_o judge_v and_o censure_v it_o upon_o the_o same_o caution_n and_o condition_n wherewith_o it_o be_v write_v and_o tender_v unto_o he_o even_o as_o for_o his_o say_n or_o gainsaying_n he_o will_v answer_v god_n at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n fareyou_a well_o you_o still_o a_o debtor_n unto_o you_o in_o christ_n jesus_n tho._n coven_n &_o lichf_n a_o summarie_n of_o the_o several_a chapter_n chap._n i._n the_o profession_n of_o the_o romish_a article_n viz._n the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n etc._n etc._n impose_v by_o the_o roman_a pope_n confess_v by_o their_o counsel_n catechism_n and_o jesuit_n sect._n 1.2.3.4_o etc._n etc._n chap._n ii_o our_o first_o consideration_n be_v of_o the_o general_n foundation_n of_o our_o confutation_n of_o that_o roman_a article_n by_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sacrilegious_a depravation_n of_o the_o common_a article_n of_o our_o christian_a creed_n the_o catholic_a church_n sect._n 1.2.3_o i._o argument_n because_o the_o word_n roman_a exclude_v that_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n which_o be_v call_v the_o triumphant_a confess_v sect._n 4._o ii_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a by_o comprise_v in_o it_o those_o that_o be_v but_o excrement_n and_o no_o true_a member_n thereof_o confess_v sect._n 5._o iii_o in_o respect_n as_o the_o church_n catholic_a be_v visible_a by_o exclude_v the_o essential_a member_n thereof_o viz._n faithful_a catechumenist_n and_o unjust_o excommunicate_v person_n confess_v sect._n 6._o iv._o because_o the_o article_n of_o catholic_a roman_a church_n as_o roman_a be_v void_v of_o all_o catholic_a foundation_n which_o be_v divine_a authority_n confess_v sect._n 7._o v._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n past_a because_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v long_o before_o there_o be_v so_o much_o as_o a_o roman_a church_n confess_v sect._n 8._o vi_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n to_o come_v because_o the_o church_n roman_a as_o it_o be_v roman_a may_v possible_o be_v alter_v from_o the_o catholic_a church_n confess_v sect._n 9_o vii_o in_o respect_n of_o any_o time_n present_a because_o always_o uncertain_a of_o her_o true_a roman_a head_n confess_v sect._n 10._o viii_o because_o this_o roman_a article_n be_v to_o all_o that_o believe_v it_o necessary_o a_o matter_n of_o heresy_n and_o of_o perjury_n to_o all_o that_o which_o all_o romish_a priest_n be_v compel_v unto_o swear_v unto_o it_o sect._n 11._o chap._n iii_o a_o second_o consideration_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v by_o observe_v a_o second_o general_a head_n of_o confutation_n from_o the_o judgement_n of_o several_a counsel_n church_n and_o father_n in_o a_o different_a respect_n of_o time_n sect._n 1_o i._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n before_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o church_n be_v false_o call_v the_o mother-church_n of_o all_o other_o sect._n 2._o 1._o proof_n from_o the_o rottenness_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o her_o mother-hood_n which_o be_v the_o false_a pretence_n of_o peter_n his_o ordain_v all_o other_o apostle_n to_o be_v pastor_n confess_v sect._n 3_o 2._o proof_n by_o instance_v in_o the_o example_n of_o church_n which_o be_v mother-churche_n before_o rome_n and_o some_o also_o to_o rome_n sect._n 4._o as_o jerusalem_n sect._n 5._o caesarea_n sect._n 6._o antioch_n sect._n 7._o etc._n etc._n the_o greek_a church_n in_o general_n sect._n 8._o and_o the_o church_n of_o britain_n sect._n 9_o chap._n iu._n ii_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n about_o when_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v first_o found_v because_o 1._o the_o roman_a article_n of_o the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o faith_n of_o saint_n peter_n the_o pretend_a founder_n of_o that_o church_n sect._n 1._o to_o sect._n 8._o 2._o contrary_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o saint_n paul_n the_o suppose_a cofounder_n of_o the_o same_o church_n with_o saint_n peter_n sect._n 8.9.10_o his_o account_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n sect._n 11.12.13.14_o 3._o contrary_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o saint_n john_n who_o teach_v that_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n be_v to_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n before_o the_o second_o come_v of_o christ._n sect._n 15._o and_o because_o he_o can_v not_o be_v account_v subject_n to_o the_o pope_n §_o 16._o chap_n v._n iii_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n when_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v first_o found_v the_o same_o article_n be_v find_v contrary_a to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ._n sect._n 1_o a_o argument_n from_o the_o tyrannous_a domineer_a of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n by_o two_o instance_n sect._n 2.3_o chap._n vi_o four_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n after_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n sect._n 1_o first_o in_o the_o primitive_a age_n prove_v that_o the_o now_o roman_a article_n viz._n the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n etc._n etc._n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o antiquity_n sect._n 2._o i._o argument_n from_o the_o contrary_a ancient_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n catholic_a church_n sect._n 3_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o saint_n augustine_n sect._n 4._o of_o saint_n hierome_n sect._n 5._o of_o s._n gregory_n sect._n 6_o chap._n vii_o ii_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o comparison_n between_o the_o other_o church_n and_o bishop_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o her_o bishop_n by_o the_o judgement_n of_o irenaeus_n tertullian_n athanasius_n vinc._n lyrinensis_n sect._n 1_o the_o same_o comparison_n prove_v by_o
ancient_a counsel_n &_o church_n sect._n 2._o chap._n viii_o iii_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n itself_o in_o her_o general_n counsel_n sect._n 1_o prove_v that_o the_o now_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a sect._n 2._o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o council_n of_o constantinople_n sect._n 3_o the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n sect._n 4._o the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n sect._n 5._o the_o father_n of_o the_o second_o council_n of_o constantinople_n sect._n 6._o the_o father_n of_o the_o six_o and_o seven_o general_n counsel_n which_o condemn_v pope_n honorius_n for_o a_o heretic_n sect._n 7._o the_o father_n of_o the_o eight_o general_n council_n sect._n 8._o chap._n ix_o iv._o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o particular_a ancient_a and_o godly_a church_n which_o be_v opposite_a to_o the_o pretend_a jurisdiction_n of_o rome_n and_o concern_v her_o excommunication_n by_o diverse_a instance_n §_o 1._o 1._o instance_n prove_v that_o she_o by_o she_o now_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o asia_n and_o their_o catholic_a bishop_n in_o the_o day_n of_o pope_n victor_n sect._n 2._o 2._o false_o damn_v the_o catholic_a church_n of_o africa_n numidia_n &_o mauritania_n in_o the_o day_n of_o saint_n cyprian_n sect._n 3_o yea_o and_o saint_n cyprian_n himself_o sect._n 4.5.6.7_o 3._o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o africa_n in_o the_o day_n of_o s._n augustine_n yea_o and_o saint_n augustine_n himself_o sect._n 8.9.10.11.12_o 4._o false_o damn_v the_o catholic_a church_n of_o britain_n with_o the_o scottish_a irish_a etc._n etc._n in_o the_o day_n of_o s._n gregory_n sect._n 15.16_o chap._n x._o v._o a_o argument_n be_v because_o by_o this_o now_o roman_a article_n be_v false_o damn_v the_o most_o catholic_a emperor_n who_o ancient_o oppose_v the_o now_o pretend_v papal_a dominion_n confess_v sect._n 1_o instance_n in_o the_o confess_v opposition_n of_o constantine_n the_o great_a theodosius_n the_o elder_a theodosius_n the_o young_a and_o justinian_n sect._n 2.3_o etc._n etc._n the_o due_a estimation_n of_o these_o emperor_n sect._n 4._o chap._n xi_o vi_o argument_n because_o the_o same_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o first_o and_o best_a and_o indeed_o most_o catholic_a pope_n of_o rome_n who_o acknowledge_v subjection_n to_o the_o emperor_n of_o their_o time_n as_o well_o ethnike_fw-gr as_o christian._n sect._n 1.2.3.4.5_o chap._n xii_o vii_o argument_n because_o the_o same_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o most_o worthy_a servant_n of_o god_n who_o name_n be_v register_v for_o martyr_n and_o saint_n in_o the_o now_o calendar_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o in_o the_o roman_a martyrologe_n viz._n s._n polycarpus_n sect._n 1_o s._n cyprian_n sect._n 2._o s._n athanasius_n sect._n 3._o s._n basil._n sect._n 4._o s._n hilary_n of_o poictou_n sect._n 5._o saint_n hierome_n sect._n 6._o s._n ambrose_n sect._n 7._o s._n august_n §_o 8._o s._n hilary_n of_o arles_n §_o 9_o chap._n xiii_o viii_o argument_n because_o of_o the_o vanity_n of_o the_o roman_a defence_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o their_o roman_a article_n of_o catholic_a jurisdiction_n discover_v by_o parallel_n 1._o the_o romish_a pretence_n from_o title_n ancient_o attribute_v to_o the_o roman_a chair_n by_o counsel_n confute_v by_o equivalence_n sect._n 1_o 2._o from_o the_o title_n attribute_v by_o ancient_a father_n confute_v first_o by_o equivalence_n sect._n 2.3_o next_o by_o their_o own_o contradiction_n sect._n 4._o three_o by_o the_o blasphemousnesse_n of_o sundry_a title_n attribute_v to_o the_o pope_n sect._n 5._o 3._o the_o romish_a pretence_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o sentence_n of_o ancient_a greek_a father_n sect._n 6._o among_o other_o be_v the_o memorable_a example_n of_o theophilus_n and_o s._n cyril_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n atticus_n and_o acatius_n patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n all_o neglect_v the_o pope_n excommunieation_n sect._n 7._o the_o same_o from_o the_o latin_a father_n confute_v sect._n 8.9_o a_o general_n confutation_n of_o the_o former_a falsehood_n sect._n 10._o 4._o the_o same_o romish_a pretence_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o authority_n of_o ancient_a pope_n confute_v sect._n 11.12.13_o as_o also_o from_o their_o acts._n sect._n 14._o the_o same_o pretence_n first_o take_v from_o the_o council_n of_o sardis_n for_o right_o of_o appeal_v to_o rome_n confute_v sect._n 15._o the_o same_o oppose_a by_o example_n of_o antiquity_n and_o second_o confute_v by_o a_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n sect._n 16._o three_o from_o s._n cyprian_n sect._n 17._o four_o from_o pope_n damasus_n sect._n 18._o five_o from_o the_o council_n of_o milevis_n sect._n 19_o six_o from_o s._n augustine_n sect._n 20._o chap._n fourteen_o the_o three_o consideration_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_a be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o latter_a age_n of_o the_o world_n confute_v the_o now_o roman_a article_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o instance_n of_o three_o kind_n first_o of_o remote_a nation_n 1._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o greek_a church_n from_o age_n to_o age_n sect._n 1_o notwithstanding_o that_o it_o continue_v still_o a_o true_a christian_a church_n sect._n 2.3.4_o and_o be_v now_o in_o extent_n wonderful_a spacious_a and_o for_o multitude_n innumerable_a sect._n 5_o the_o extremity_n of_o the_o romish_a article_n sect._n 6._o a_o particular_a instance_n in_o ignatius_n patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n neglect_v the_o pope_n excommunication_n sect._n 7._o 2._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o the_o assyrian_n sect._n 8._o 3._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o other_o remote_a nation_n egyptian_n aethiopian_n armenian_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 9_o second_o in_o church_n more_o near_o because_o it_o as_o 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no_o unjust_a excommunication_n out_o of_o a_o true_a church_n can_v prejudice_n the_o salvation_n of_o the_o excommunicate_a sect._n 8._o the_o second_o part_n be_v concern_v departure_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n compare_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o other_o church_n i._o thesis_n the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n be_v as_o subject_a to_o error_n as_o any_o other_o church_n sect._n 9_o ii_o thesis_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v more_o subject_n to_o error_n then_o any_o other_o church_n christian._n sect._n 10._o iii_o thesis_n there_o be_v not_o in_o all_o scripture_n any_o prophecy_n of_o the_o fall_n of_o any_o christian_a church_n but_o only_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o which_o it_o may_v sometime_o be_v necessary_a to_o depart_v sect._n 11._o iv._o thesis_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v long_o be_v and_o still_o be_v the_o most_o schismatical_a church_n of_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n that_o carry_v in_o they_o a_o visible_a face_n of_o a_o church_n §_o 12._o the_o three_o part_n of_o this_o determination_n concern_v the_o
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