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A55033	Scripture and reason pleaded for defensive armes: or The whole controversie about subjects taking up armes Wherein besides other pamphlets, an answer is punctually directed to Dr. Fernes booke, entituled, Resolving of conscience, &c. The scriptures alleadged are fully satisfied. The rationall discourses are weighed in the ballance of right reason. Matters of fact concerning the present differences, are examined. Published by divers reverend and learned divines. It is this fourteenth day of Aprill, 1643. ordered by the Committee of the House of Commons in Parliament concerning printing, that this booke, entituled Scripture and reason pleaded for defensive armes, be printed by Iohn Bellamy and Ralph Smith. John White.	Palmer, Herbert, 1601-1647.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.	1643 (1643)	Wing P244; ESTC R206836	105,277	84

or Priest or Jesuit according to his place even sentence of death if he could not avoid● it Onely with two cautions 1. That he should be as favourable as was possible 2. That he should give timely Intelligence of any severe sentence Let now charity judge what circumspection almost can suffice against such a generation of Men Or what jealousie can be too much of them that still professe this treacherous Religion And yet all this notwithstanding at last to have even professed Papists taken in against the Parliament Can this be without a designe in them that have counselled the King to it Was it not in a prudent fore-sight that they should be cal'd and admitted to helpe that the Papists have no where been plundered by the Kings Army though others have who held not with the Parliament 8. As for Ziba David knew not his treachery at the first and his lyes had so blasted honest-hearted Mephibosheth that it appeares David did scarcely beleeve his apology for himselfe Otherwise what ever may now be said of his credulous charity to Ziba to the prejudice of one that was not present to answer for himselfe it was none of Davids good deeds to be imitated to recompence a flattering Sycophant that had brought him a present in a hard time indeed with so large a share in Mephibosheths estate When by the Law of God he was to dye for his false accusation of Treason as Mephibosheth had deserved death had it been true But now our Papists are knowne to be Enemies to the Parliament as was said before and some of their Party in the Country sticke not to say that the Parliaments Intentions of rigour against them already shewed by the executing of so many Priests and Jesuites Men of tender consciences is one part of the Court-quarrell against them They are more like Doeg then Ziba who first accused the Priests and then readily undertooke the execution of a most cruell sentence and executed it with all cruelty But Psal 52. Reades their doome And Psal 54.4 Sutes the Ziphims too those of Davids owne Tribe that came and discovered him to Saul 1 Sa. 23.26 once and againe and so incensed him afresh against him Though Saul blesses them 1 Sa. 23.21 as his speciall good subjects that had compassion of him Conscience must now judge whether the Papists being favoured were any cause of the resistance now made or only the resistance now ●●de was the cause that they were admitted to helpe the King in his distresse 9. But for the D ● to honour them with the Title of good subjects preferring them before the Parliament and so great a part of the Kingdome as visibly adhere to them is one of the highest reproaches that ever was belcht out against them enough for a Jesuite or a Pope to have said But the Dr. how ever he pretend modesty oft-times and respect to the Parliament stabbs them as desperately as any enemy could doe now and then While he seemes also resolved to justifie all that hath been done against them else he would have been silent in this peece and the next that followes about Ireland 10. In the meane time because he upbraids with a scandall that this resistance brings on our Religion which saith he would not be easily wiped of were it to stand or fall by the doctrines of this giddy age I must needs make bold to tell him that he forgets himselfe strangely and the Doctrines and practises of our Religion when he can scarce name that Country where there are any Protestants that have not taken Armes to defend Laws and Liberties and with them Religion even though not before allowed by Laws Sweden Germany France The low Countries Bohemiah Scotland And did not Q. Elizabeth of blessed memory assist them in France Holland and Scotland and K. James Holland and at least owned the cause of the French though he only sent Ambassadours and K. Charles did send to aide Rochel as I noted before and ownes the Prince of Orange sufficiently who yet is Rebell Generall against the K. of Spain if our Parliaments resistance be Rebellion Indeed we in England are the last and above all other Nations have been by the Court Doctors within this 40 Yeares much prepared to suffer any thing rather then resist Yet Bishop Bilson in the Queens time was suffered to averre that the States of a Kingdome might resist vide But it now above all other times greeves that we offer to doe what all others have done before us upon a great deale lesse Authority considering our Parliament continued by Act and its power granted by the King as I have noted before against all delinquents For if they could have subdued and swallowed us up the other Protestants in other Countreyes would much more easily have been devoured 4. The last Allegation is concerning the businesses of Ireland Of which because the Dr. saith the King hath written enough he had done wisely to have written nothing but that word Though I have not yet been so happy who would be glad to see it to meet with any Answer to the last Peece of the House of Commons which reckons so many particulars of wrong done to that poore Kingdom● Therefore till I meete with that I must needs tell the Dr. he saith not enough to cleare the businesse nor the Kings Councellours in that businesse For whereas his whole defence is ●in a word that the Kings necessity made it lawfull to make use of any thing intended for their releefe which he parallels by the Necessity that excused the Scots comming in hither To this divers things may and must be replyed 1. The Scots are no parallell for this carriage toward Ireland Their coming what ever the Dr. affirmes brought no such great detriment to the Inhabitants there if you except their professed enemies Papists and Prelates as the poore Souldiers and other Protestants of Ireland have suffered by the actions done concerning them 2. The King and Parliament have justified by Act of Parliament their coming as necessitated Yet they were proclaimed Traitours againe and againe and it was counted necessary to make War against them one yeare and a second as now against the Parliament The necessity then that is now pretended by the Kings party wants a great deale of the justification that the Scots have had before all the world specially remembring all that was noted before of the doings of the Kings followers before ever the Parliament did any thing but Petition 3. Which necessity by them pretended if it appeare a necessity by themselves made will it not make their actions concerning Ireland more horrid and proclaime the designe to be more rooted 4. But it must by no means be forgotten what hath been pretended for Ireland to which these actions are most contrary 1. When the King rode Northward and the Parliament more then once represented that it would greatly prejudice Ireland The King protested still it should not but he would be as

Aristocratically But there must alwayes be Judges and inferiour officers in a large Dominion or all government is lost Will the Doctor say that the hands that have lift up the Judge or Officer to his seat that is the Kings hands may not bee lift up against him to pull him downe and pull off his Robes or take the Sword out of his hand The interest that God hath in him shall it preserve him in his Office in case especially of Mal-Administration But shall it or hath it done even so long as no offence is proved against him The Parliament hath indeed desired it for Judges and great Officers but hath it been granted Or what meanes the putting out of so many old Justices of Peace lately without any Crime alleadged against them at all of which more Countreys then one have at the Assises complained as a great grievance What will the Doctor say to this Yet they were Gods Ministers and had the Sword committed to them If hee say the King was their Superiour and so might take their Authoritie away but the people is not Superiour to the King REPLY This satisfies not because notwithstanding here is a Person in whom GOD hath an interest and who is his Minister deprived of his Authoritie not only when he abuses it but meerely at pleasure The Drs. Reason then hath no strength in it thus faare or this done to inferiour Magistrates is not lawfull 2. But secondly what strength is in his Argument lies in the Kings being GODS anointed and therefore the Crowne may not be taken from his Head by Men this I have granted him before and am so farre from recalling or disputing against that I will adde this word of confirmation to it Supposing wee speake of such a Prince or Monarch call him King or Emperour or Duke or what you will that is not deposeable by the expresse Lawes of that Common-Wealth as the Duke of Brabant was and the Duke of Venice is for such as those Dukes were not properly supreame nor GODS immediate Vicegerents as Saul and David and the like I say then that though in case of Mal-Administration an inferiour Magistrate may be Lawfull and most justly and necessarily deposed by the Kings Authoritie I will not say the like so long as they carry themselves well and are not meerely Annuall Officers who also are glad usually when their yeare is out because their Office is a burthen and charge yet a Supreame may not by the people because hee is GODS immediate Vicegerent and so specially owned by Him and have none upon Earth unto whom GOD by any expression in his Word hath given Authoritie over them to take their Crownes from their Heads I say againe as a Wife cannot take away her Husbands Authority because she is in no sence above him So unlesse the Law of that State name a Superiour to him that is in Tittle the Prince to take his Crowne from him in such a case he cannot be deposed by the Law of GOD which appoints no persons to do such a thing to illustrate which Let me adde that in those times when GOD allowed by the Judiciall Law a Man to put away his Wife It did not allow a Woman to put away or forsake her Husband though I know about our Saviours Time Iosephus relates of Women having gotten that among the Iewes at least some of them as hee instances in Salome sister to Herod the Great who put away her Husband But GOD allowed it not And so that may bee lawfull for a Prince who is Superiour to doe to an Inferiour Magistrate which is not lawfull for the people to doe to the Prince who is Supreme no not in a like case of Mal-Administration I could instance in sundry other Prerogatives in GODS Word to Superiours which hold not no not in like cases to Inferiours but it needs not with the Parliament as hath been oft said 2. But whereas the Dr. addes Nor to take the Sword out of his hand This is inconsequent divers wayes First himselfe in the former SECTION in the case of Elisha granted a private man might resist the Kings Messenger and even hold the Kings owne hands sure he may he doth that while equivalently take the Sword out of his hand Secondly the people tooke it out of Sauls hand when he would have put Ionathan illegally to death Thirdly If hee would kill himselfe it may be taken out of his hand 4. Since out of all question GOD never put it into his hands to kill the Innocent nor much lesse to subvert Religion Lawes and Liberties he being GODS anointed and GODS Minister for good c. hinders not the taking the Sword so long out of his hand till it hath beene sufficiently imployed to punish those Malefactors and delinquents which he should but will not strike with it or rather will defend and imploy S. Yet I say further to doe that which the Parliament hath done supposing the necessity of which hereafter is not to take the Sword out of his hand himselfe grants as was noted before in his Answer to the 19. Propositions that the two Houses have a legall power to punish even such as doe violence being his followers or Favourites though countenanced with some surr●ptiously gotten Command from the King and moreover that they have power more than sufficient to prevent and restraine Tyrannie Their setling the M●litia in safe hands and the Navy and securing Hull is by them declared to be for no other end nor their raising an Army since If then those that they would punish bee Delinquents and if in them whom the King trusts there bee though not at all in the King an intention to bring in a Tyranny even with Armes and to subvert Religion Lawes and Liberties which is the state of the present Question then by the Kings owne grants as aforesaid they may Legally and Lawfully take the Sword into their hands and doe not take it out of Kings but his wicked Followers 6. But because the Dr. closes his Assertion with saying This will not a a true informed Conscience dare to doe REPLY I will be bold to try whether Conscience many not say It dares doe no other then than this latter so farre to take the Sword into their hands whether even his Tower of Battery Rom. 13.21 not by what hath beene said formerly and even now so wonne from him as it is become ours to beat down his Principle in this first Question to the very dust Secondly I say the Parliament is a Power ordained of God it is the Minister of God It is to be a Terrour to evill Workes It is to be a Revenger to execute Wrath on them that doe evill It is to watch continually as GODS Minister in th●s very thing and so fo● the prayse of them that doe well and so the secu●i●g of Religion Lawes and Liberties it is not to beare the Sword in vaine And a sword it hath by the Kings owne sentence to the