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A20216 An answeare to the supplication Against him, who seeming to giue the King counsel to become a Catholike, indeuoureth to stirre vp his good subiectes vnto rebellion. Faithfully translated out of French by E.A. Aggas, Edward. 1591 (1591) STC 664; ESTC S115374 30,730 40

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slightly may haue turned his coate You thinke they will not do it if you thinke so euen in common sense you are deceiued Or you imagine that albeit they should so do yet their Sermons woulde be of too small effect with the people to turne away this their new vow and deuotion that you assure the king of But I am of a contrary opinion Thus you sée vs of contrarie mindes and vpon this contrariety of hopes and opinions would you haue the king hazard his person and state You may say If I were king I would and I wil answere for him That if he had made the Supplication now in question peraduenture he would do it but being K. he must looke well that he do it not My good friend I vnderstand but one Lattin word Tanti poenitere non emam and I thinke it were good for the kings seruice that he should remember it in French If the king agreeing to your opinion by this his new beléefe had lost all his beléefes of his antient seruants that haue wyth him borne the quarrell as taking it to be Gods quarrell And the princes that fauoured him for the communion of their religion rather then of their callings should growe luke warme in his behalfe And on the other side if the rebels should perseuere in their rage into what disorder or rather dispaire should you bring his affaires He should finde himselfe lurched ere he were aware and you shall prooue but a bad warrant for your counsell Neither your parchment nor your appeale as of abuse to be briefe all the petyfoggeries of France woulde not suffice to warrant him His ennemies haue a newe production I say weapons the which conioyned wyth I wot not what coloured title which the strongest do neuer want when the question concerneth a kingdome they will easily by the meanes thereof winne their cause For as for the consistory of Rome which in such affaires is of some waight in the ballance as being composed of sundry lordes who through their long experience do ordinarily conioyne religion with the state and neuer diuide humane wisedome from holines it wil alwaies incline to the strongest But is not this the parte of a very Scholler in State matters to wish that a prince should alter his religion vpon a vaine conceipt thereby to winne the hearts of those whome he would conquere If your Machiauell nowe liued who taught you that a king ought to be of like religion as his subiects he would tell you that a wise prince neuer made so vnclarkly a step as to alter his religion so long as he stood vpon the conquest But hauing atchieued all his enterprises hee should then consult with his friends whether it were good for him to embrace his subiects religion to the ende the better to like them You and such as be like your selfe doe relie onely vpon the catholike religion of the French kings namely for that king Clouis altered his Paganisme into Christianitie which in those daies was dispersed ouer all the Galles Let vs rest vppon this example which may be a good guide to leade vs in the path that we are to passe Did this great king for I account him for the greatest that euer raigned in France without exception either of Charlemaine or of Philip the conquerour become a christian-so long as he stoode vpon his conquests or did he it without any ceremony No verely For when he was to receiue the sacrament of Baptisme it was performed with such dignity by his great counseller S. Remy that afterward the posterity conuerted al the ceremonies thereat obserued into miracles Besides be abandoned not his heathen religion to stoupe to oures vntill he had fréed his estate from the bondage of the Romanes subdued the Bur●uinion who occupied part of our Galles chased the Visigot that possessed the country of Septimany since called Languedoc into Spaine and through the great battell of Tolbiac brought vnder his obedience al Germany whereby Theodorike king of Italy became a suter vnto him 〈◊〉 which performed he receiued Christendome yet can I not hereupon inferre that for all this he became a state Christian but thus much is certaine that he vsed this discretion at his new purpose that he turned not from his religion vntill he found him selfe to haue the vpper hand I will vse your owne examples you say that the Macedonians abated I wot not how much of their ancient deuotion to their king Alexander because he attired himselfe after the Persian maner This story will I faithfully and at large rehearse as greatly seruing my turne but not yours So long as Alexander was busied about the conquest of Asia he forbare to vse either the habite or customes of the kings of Persia But hauing once conquered it imagining that hée wanted no more for the accomplishement of his victories but the conquest of the hearts of his new subiects whose Country which he had subdued was in extent fiue or sixe times as great as all Macedonia he had recourse vnto the pollicie we speake of He tooke both the attire and diademe of the kinges of Persia and from thenceforth beganne to cause himselfe to be adored by such as came to salute him A matter vnaccustomed among the Grecians yet such as made the conquered so pliable to his obedience that he kept them in peace so long as he liued Hereupon a certaine philosopher or rather a Scholler named Calisthenes who measured a mightie kings imaginations by his owne began to murmure among the souldiours shewing them that it was the way to bury the Grecian liberty in the bondage of the Persians in the conquest whereof they had borne a great parte and portion with Alexander and if néede had so required had he thought vpon it he would haue exhibited a like Supplication as yours wherby to bring Alexanders behauiors into mislike These complaints passing from mouth to mouth among the Macedonians was like to haue stirred vp a great sedition Whereupon the king put the schoolemaister to death not vpon any iniurious wrath as some foolish Historiographers haue written but to the end to stoppe th● fluxe of this new commotion and withal to make him an example to the posteritie against such as licentiously abusing their tongues or pennes before they haue serued their apprentisage in state affaires doe in their studies meddle with controuling the actions of their king among his people and subiects This example haue I set you downe to two endes The first to shew you that a soueraigne prince ought neuer to alter his fashions maners or religion for the contentation of a people before he hath gotten the maistery ouer them The other to let you vnderstand that we are not so easily or openly to controll the behauiours of our kings especially in matters concerning the estate For not to penetrate into the botome of their thoughts and yet to publish against them such spéeches or diffamatory libels as may moue their subiectes to reuolt is