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A02990 A friendly triall of the grounds tending to separation in a plain and modest dispute touching the lawfulnesse of a stinted liturgie and set form of prayer, Communion in mixed assemblies, and the primitive subject and first receptacle of the power of the Keyes: tending to satisfie the doubtfull, recall the wandering, and to strengthen the weak: by John Ball. Ball, John, 1585-1640. 1640 (1640) STC 1313; ESTC S122227 213,948 338

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quench the Spirit Why so Because the Spirit is straitned by forms devised by men which is as much in plain terms as to say It is stinted in our sense because it is stinted And the like might be noted in other arguments Where is the consideration of the people had when the forms now are the same for matter and manner that they were almost an hundred yeares ago and at the first dawning of the Gospel the same for the Court Universities and the meanest congregation in the Countrey Might not the same be objected against the use of a set translation singing of psalmes the use of the Lords prayer for this fifteen hundred yeares without alteration for these are the same now that they were many yeares agone or at least may be the same for Citie Countrey Court Universitie and the meanest villages There are some common blessings which we and others dayly stand in need of and those it is lawfull to ask dayly in a set form of words Thus we may pray euery day for encrease of faith patience love meeknesse the forgivnesse of sinnes the continuance of those outward blessings which we enjoy freedom from or victory over temptations c. Thus there is no petition in the Lords prayer which doth not alwayes in the main concern every Christian mans estate And if the matter of our prayers may be the same daily in the Citie the Countrey Court and Universitie in this and former ages the same phrase of speech method and form externall may be lawfull fit and expedient For it is not the repetition of the same words in prayer every day that displeaseth the Lord but the ignorant rash cold customary superstitious and irreverent pouring out of words before him that is distastfull to his Majesty Variety of phrase doth not delight the Lord neither will he reject the desires of an humble and contrite heart because they are tendred often in one and the same phrase of speech And if the matter of prayer be the same in places of greatest wealth and poorest condition and the same form of blessing baptizing singing of psalms and putting up their petitions to God be fit and decent for them all it can be no prejudice to a stinted Liturgie that it is the same in all places and throughout all ages if the language be the same For this doth argue it to be the more not the lesse fit and that the greater not the lesse regard is had to the people The reason in brief is this It is lawfull to ask the same common blessings of God every day in all assemblies and congregations both of the City Country Court and University met together to call upon God therefore the same stinted form of prayer or Liturgy may be lawfull in the greatest city and meanest village in this and the ages following whether read or uttered out of memory for pronouncing cannot make an evil matter good nor reading simply make prayer good and holy to become sinfull Publick prayers offered up by the minister in the church-assemblies must be framed according to the present and severall occasions of the church and people of God which cannot be done when men are stinted to those forms Occasions are ordinary and common or more speciall In a stinted form prayers may be offered up by the minister according to the common and ordinary occasions of the church and people of God assembled though not according to the speciall occasions which may happen now and then or more particularly concern this or that person For if the same blessings are dayly to be craved he prayeth according to the present occasions that asketh the same blessings of God If it be said There be many occasions of particular use for the congregation and others which are not mentioned expressely that proveth not That a man cānot in a stinted form pray according to the severall occasions but that some stinted forms do not meet with all and every particular occasion which is easily granted But if a stinted form meet not with every mans occasions or not so particularly as it ought doth it hence follow that in a stinted form a man cānot pray according to the present occasions at all If this be the conclusion I fear we shall find few conceived prayers which must not come under the same sentence It may argue the imperfection of a stinted form not the unlawfulnesse it maketh somewhat against the sole use of a set form at all times against the simple use it maketh nothing It is found by lamentable experience that when men began to observe that custome there was great quenching of the Spirit and very few there were who did know and observe the true nature and the manner of prayer How is this confirmed by experience If ever the Christian church had no stinted form of prayer lamentable experience will testifie what great coolings and decayes there was in the church before a stinted form was in use If ever the faithfull did by the Spirit of adoption cry Abba Father they have learned to pray by the Spirit since the use of a stinted form as well as before Whatsoever may be thought of the two first ages for the space of fourteen hundred yeares the churches have had their stinted Liturgies The reformed churches since God was pleased to restore light again to the world have approved a stinted Liturgie Was there none or few in all this tract of time who did know or understand the true nature or manner of prayer none or few that in spirit or truth did call upon the name of the Lord The securitie of all ages hath been lamentable both before and since the use of a stinted form but that a stinted form was the cause of securitie and dulnesse can never be proved CHAP. VI. In scripture there be prescript forms of blessing prayers salutations c. which may lawfully be used IN scripture we find prescript forms of blessing prayers and thanksgiving both ordinary and extraordinary approved of God which might be used by the priests Levites and Saints or faithfull people and that upon deliberation usually constantly as occasion was offered and not by the immediate motion of the Spirit I say not that the preists in blessing or the Saints in prayer were necessarily bound to those very words and syllables But they might lawfully use them and without sinne We find also stinted forms of salutations valedictions and blessing which have been often used and may lawfully be used still without variation though we be not necessarily obliged thereunto Our Saviour also prescribed a set form of baptizing which we observe constantly without addition or variation though we be not tied by absolute necessity to rehearse the same words in the same syllables No substantiall change is to be admitted which may alter the sense but the very form of speech
because they are actually in the state of salvation the heirs apparent to everlasting blessednesse actuall partakers of the benefits of Christs death which accompany salvation They are given unto Christ set into him as branches into a vine and they that be such be in deed and act not in desire alone members of Christs body All that were not in the ark perished in the waters No member doth live but that which is actually joyned to the head and draweth life from it Baptisme is the seal of our solemn admission into the church but it is not the gate of our setting into Christ but the seal of that admission we have received by grace are partakers of by a lively faith True believers thē are in the state of grace actuall members of the militant church but of a visible particular ministerial church or congregation they may be members in desire onely For it may so fall out many times that he who is joyned to Christ by a true and lively faith hath not means and opportunity to unite himself unto a visible and ministeriall church The Catechum●ni who did truly 〈◊〉 unfeignedly believe in Christ were live-members of his mysticall body and in respect of full effectuall and saving participation of Christs benefits actuall members of the church invisible when in respect of solemn outward and sacramentall admission they were not members of any visible congregation If a Christian be unjustly excommunicated he still reteineth all those things which the best parts of the church have inward or outward and though he be cut off from the meetings and assemblies of particular churches so that he may not bodily be present when the people meet together yet still he hath the communion which onely is essentiall and maketh a man to be of the church in that he hath all those things which the best that remain not ejected have as faith hope love and profession of the whole truth of God He is the friend of God an heir apparent of the new Jerusalem a living member of the mysticall body of Christ And if he be not cut off from Christ from hope of salvation and fellowship of the saints triumphant neither can he be cast out from the fellowship of the church militant for the church militant and triumphant is one The performance of holy duties is an action of them that be already of the church and doth not make a man of the church yea the performance of these duties is a thing of that nature that by violence and unjust courses holden by wicked men we may be hindred from it without any fault of ours Now that it often falleth out through the prevailing of factious seditious and turbulent men that the best part is unjustly and undeser● 〈◊〉 cast out of the visible church is a thing so plain and confessed that it needeth no proof In times of grievous and hot persecution under which the church hath laboured the faithfull have been compelled to meet in woods dens and caves some in one place some in another as opportunity was offered their societies have been broken and set congregations dispersed and scattered when yet they continued the true church wherein salvation was to be had and enjoyed the ordinary means of salvation And if we speak of a visible ministeriall church as it is here meant by you the faithfull who professed the truth of the Gospel intirely and did communicate in the ordinances of worship for the space of this fourteen hundred yeares and upward had not means or at least did not unite themselves into a visible ministeriall church of Christ And if out of this your church ordinarily there be no salvation no means leading to everlasting life the Christian world for these many hundred yeares hath wanted ordinary means to bring them to life and salvation and been in that state in which no salvation ordinarily can be expected If we detest the consequence as dreadfull not standing with the promises made to the church of the Gentiles and the tender mercies of God vouchsafed to his people we must acknowledge the position from whence it followeth undeniably to be most rash and inconsiderate Out of doubt this kind of the visible church is now under the Gospel onely lawfull for us even a particular ordinary congregation onely And whatsoever kind or form of a visible church is instituted or ordained by men the same is conteined manifestly in the negative part of the second commandment that is to say it is simply unlawfull and by God himself here forbidden unto us In the new Testament the church doth signifie a multitude of believers whether assembled or dispersed and whether they be met in one place or separated in place they retein tho same name still The church is a society of the faithfull not an assembly if we speak properly When the word is put absolutely it noteth the multitude or society of the faithfull which is distinguished from their assembly or meeting together for the worship of God For we shall reade the church of God or Christ and so the church of the first-born but never the church of these or them or you or us but assembly or assembling of your selves Now the society may be one when the congregations be divers in respect of place where they do assemble It is not opposite to the unitie of an ecclesiasticall society that the members should ordinarily assemble in divers places for the worshipping of God so long as they be united by the same laws have communion in the same ordinances and be linked under the same spirituall guides and officers When a church did comprehend a citie with its suburbs and the countrey circumjacent I mean the believers who professed that faith within that circuit it might well be that the number did so increase through the extraordinary blessing of God which did accompany the preaching of the word in those primitive times and first planting of that heavenly kingdome that they could not well meet ordinarily in one place and yet might and did continue one society For when a number is gathered in small villages or some added to the number already gathered it is not meet they should be neglected because small nor yet divided from the body because the number not competent to make an intire and perfect body of it self The increase of churches doth require an increase of ministers and if they grow to bignesse more then ordinary an increase of places for their assembling when the essence of the visible church is not changed nor one multiplyed or divided into many And it is more available for the good of the church and further removed from all ambition if the society shall assemble in divers places as parts and members of one body then to constitute a distinct free society consisting of some few believers not fit to make up an intire body contrary to the precedent examples of the apostles In times of hot and