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A04207 An attestation of many learned, godly, and famous divines, lightes of religion, and pillars of the Gospell iustifying this doctrine, viz. That the Church-governement ought to bee alwayes with the peoples free consent. Also this; that a true Church vnder the Gospell contayneth no more ordinary congregations but one. In the discourse whereof, specially Doctor Downames & also D. Bilsons chiefe matters in their writings against the same, are answered. Jacob, Henry, 1563-1624. 1613 (1613) STC 14328; ESTC S117858 154,493 335

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2.124_o first_o d._n down_n def._n 2.124_o constitute_v church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o alexandria_n itself_o as_o he_o false_o translate_v it_o i_o say_v this_o he_o false_o translate_v as_o 3.25.16_o as_o 3.137_o &_o 3.25.16_o doct._n dou●_n also_o do_v before_o he_o whereupon_o the_o whole_a ground_n of_o their_o error_n do_v rest_n ●●_o def_n pag._n 17_o ●●_o which_o their_o falsification_n i_o shall_v by_o god_n help_n show_v plain_o out_o of_o eusebius_n himself_o even_o in_o this_o very_a place_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o here_o signify_v in_o a_o place_n as_o they_o untrue_o imagine_v but_o it_o signifi_v to_o a_o place_n and_o so_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v translate_v in_o latin_a we_o shall_v say_v ad_fw-la alexandria●_n ipsam_fw-la or_o usque_fw-la ad_fw-la that_o be_v to_o alexandria_n or_o unto_o alexandria_n itself_o this_o be_v eusebius_n true_a meaning_n for_o he_o will_v show_v that_o mark_n be_v the_o first_o that_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o church_n about_o in_o the_o country_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d about_o alexandria_n not_o in_o alexandria_n last_o of_o all_o eusebius_n utter_v this_o as_o he_o do_v the_o next_o forego_n clause_n likewise_o with_o this_o term_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o say_v or_o some_o report_n by_o which_o and_o the_o like_a term_n he_o use_v to_o relate_v uncertain_a and_o apocryphal_a thing_n yea_o sometime_o fabulous_a and_o untrue_a for_o eusebius_n be_v not_o precise_a in_o set_v down_o all_o his_o matter_n chief_o those_o which_o he_o have_v only_o upon_o rumour_n and_o report_n and_o where_o he_o seem_v to_o require_v credit_n in_o deed_n he_o be_v not_o spare_v to_o name_v his_o author_n as_o egesippus_fw-la clemens_n dionysius_n and_o such_o other_o wherefore_o divers_a way_n d._n downame_n presumptuous_a assertion_n and_o which_o he_o do_v so_o boast_v of_o that_o mark_v institute_v many_o church_n in_o alexandria_n want_v
free_a consent_n and_o namely_o that_o it_o be_v so_o under_o the_o apostle_n which_o i_o have_v show_v 69_o show_v pag._n 68_o 69_o before_o to_o be_v certain_o true_a hence_o it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v a_o plain_a untruth_n &_o a_o falsehood_n which_o the_o doct._n so_o often_o 4.2.3.38.39.46_o often_o def._n 1.28_o and_o 4.2.3.38.39.46_o affirm_v viz._n that_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v such_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o their_o call_n as_o we_o now_o in_o england_n be_v we_o be_v sole_a governor_n they_o be_v not_o so_o they_o admit_v the_o congregation_n consent_v in_o all_o important_a matter_n of_o their_o government_n we_o do_v what_o they_o please_v without_o they_o yea_o common_o against_o their_o like_n beside_o the_o apostolic_a bishop_n have_v not_o any_o addition_n of_o civil_a coactive_a power_n as_o we_o have_v last_o they_o have_v no_o mo_z ordinary_n set_v congregation_n to_o their_o pastoral_a charge_n but_o only_o one_o we_o be_v the_o 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church_n who_o fruit_n be_v too_o plentiful_a among_o us._n archb._n whitgift_n say_v 45._o say_v answ_n to_o the_o admon_n pag._n 44._o 45._o now_o the_o church_n be_v full_a of_o hypocrite_n dissembler_n drink_v and_n whoremonger_n ignorant_a papist_n atheist_n and_o such_o like_a d._n bilson_n also_o 155._o also_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 155._o toom_n church_n come_v all_o sort_n atheist_n hypocrite_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o filth_n ought_v very_o to_o be_v impute_v chief_o to_o nonresidente_n and_o pluralist_n now_o in_o diocesan_n and_o provincial_n church_n and_o large_a where_o the_o people_n have_v not_o their_o free_a consent_n in_o the_o church_n government_n there_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v nonresident_n and_o pluralitie-man_n first_o the_o chief_a and_o best_a pastor_n of_o a_o very_a large_a country_n he_o who_o they_o call_v the_o angel_n of_o such_o a_o church_n be_v no_o other_o indeed_o then_o a_o great_a pluralist_n and_o nonresident_a for_o he_o have_v the_o 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divine_a say_v he_o against_o the_o misliker_n of_o plurality_n and_o nonresidencie_n 328._o nonresidencie_n perp_n gov_fw-mi pag._n 328._o saint_n paul_n himself_o know_v not_o these_o curious_a position_n when_o he_o appoint_v titus_n to_o take_v charge_n and_o oversight_n of_o the_o whole_a island_n of_o crete_n and_o see_v no_o cause_n why_o one_o man_n may_v not_o perform_v many_o pastoral_n and_o episcopal_a duty_n to_o all_o that_o be_v in_o the_o same_o country_n with_o he_o and_o this_o touch_v the_o chief_a and_o best_a and_o 247._o and_o pag._n 247._o only_o proper_a pastor_n in_o a_o diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a second_o his_o substitute_n will_v all_o seek_v to_o be_v in_o proportion_n like_o their_o superior_n whereof_o in_o deed_n there_o be_v great_a cause_n for_o if_o the_o most_o angelic_a pastor_n &_o he_o who_o in_o his_o office_n come_v near_a unto_o christ_n be_v such_o that_o be_v so_o great_a a_o pluralist_n and_o nonresident_a than_o who_o in_o 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this_o 65._o this_o pag._n 65._o the_o apo●les_n appoint_a minister_n to_o whole_a city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v to_o labour_v so_o far_o as_o they_o ●ere_z able_a the_o conversion_n of_o all_o true_a what_o ●hen_o therefore_o they_o appoint_v they_o ●o_o stand_v minister_n still_o to_o whole_a city_n and_z country_n adjoin_v i_o deny_v ●his_n consequence_n it_o be_v a_o plain_a fallacy_n ●b_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la secundum_fw-la qu●d_fw-la fallacy_n fallacy_n ad_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pray_v sir_n when_o logic_n fail_v you_o play_v not_o the_o sophister_n the_o apostle_n appoint_v minister_n to_o convert_v what_o they_o can_v in_o great_a city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v yea_o and_o in_o the_o whole_a 13.33_o whole_a math._n 13.33_o world_n but_o not_o to_o stand_v minister_n &_o pastor_n to_o all_o they_o when_o they_o shall_v be_v convert_v but_o only_o according_a t●_n the_o order_n and_o form_n of_o a_o church_n se●_n down_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o 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the_o christian_a people_n free_a consent_n in_o church_n government_n the_o other_o can_v not_o these_o can_v personal_o administer_v to_o their_o whole_a flock_n they_o possible_o can_v not_o but_o by_o substitute_n and_o curate_n as_o we_o call_v they_o for_o there_o the_o proper_a pastor_n themselves_o be_v &_o of_o necessity_n must_v be_v grand_a pluraliste_n and_o nonresident_n which_o plain_o be_v substantial_a difference_n in_o pastor_n beside_o that_o the_o one_o can_v execute_v a_o whole_a and_o entire_a pastoral_n office_n the_o other_o can_v not_o etc._n etc._n as_o ●_o as_o declarat_fw-la pag._n 12.13.14_o 15_o 16._o &_o ●_o elsewhere_a i_o have_v more_o full_o declare_v his_o 2._o reason_n be_v this_o 2.69_o this_o def._n 2.69_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o church_n be_v not_o divide_v into_o parish_n ●or_a presbyter_n assign_v to_o their_o several_a cure_n therefore_o than_o a_o church_n be_v not_o a_o pa●ish_n i_o answer_v here_o again_o he_o do_v nothing_o but_o equivocat_n let_v he_o understand_v a_o parish_n in_o that_o sense_n as_o before_o have_v define_v it_o 204.205_o pa._n 204.205_o and_o so_o i_o affirm_v that_o by_o the_o very_a apostle_n the_o church_n be_v divide_v into_o several_a parish_n that_o be_v ●ach_v church_n be_v itself_o a_o distinct_a pa●ish_n and_o several_o divide_v from_o all_o o●her_n also_o the_o presbyter_n than_o be_v assign_v to_o their_o several_a cure_n viz._n to_o these_o parish_n or_o church_n but_o if_o he_o ●ake_v a_o parish_n as_o it_o be_v a_o congregation_n limit_v within_o a_o certain_a circuit_n of_o ●round_n and_o as_o a_o diocese_n be_v subdivide_v ●nto_o many_o of_o they_o as_o they_o be_v now_o so_o ●ve_v speak_v not_o of_o they_o yet_o common_o ●r_o altogether_o 77._o altogether_o pag._n 77._o he_o do_v so_o speak_v of_o ●hem_n wherefore_o here_o every_o man_n may_v ●●e_v his_o vanity_n he_o do_v fly_v the_o true_a question_n and_o shufle_v in_o thing_n that_o ●e_v never_o intend_v then_o his_o gross_a untruth_n &_o unschollerlike_a assertion_n ought_v 〈◊〉_d be_v mark_v where_o he_o say_v 75._o say_v pag_n 75._o the_o ●ord_n ecclesia_fw-la be_v of_o a_o large_a extent_n then_o to_o signify_v only_o one_o assembly_n i_o appeal_v to_o all_o au●entike_a greek_a author_n thucydides_n de●osthenes_n plato_n aristotle_n isocrates_n etc._n etc._n out_o ●f_n who_o plentiful_a allegation_n may_v be_v bring_v all_o of_o they_o show_v that_o this_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la do_v evermore_o signify_v only_o one_o assembly_n and_o never_o a_o disperse_a multitude_n hold_v many_o ordinary_a set_a meeting_n in_o far_o remote_a place_n as_o diocesan_n and_o large_a church_n do_v now_o according_a to_o these_o and_o other_o greek_n live_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n do_v the_o apostle_n speak_v and_o this_o i_o have_v heretofore_o often_o 110._o often_o reas._o for_o ref_o pag_n 64._o declarat_fw-la pag_n 31._o 32._o &_o above_o pa._n 110._o propound_v and_o affirm_v as_o a_o principal_a ground_n and_o cause_n of_o our_o dissent_n from_o the_o church_n state_n in_o england_n and_o the_o ground_n be_v certain_a it_o can_v not_o be_v with_o reason_n speak_v against_o the_o d._n here_o 15._o here_o pag._n 14._o 15._o put_v in_o to_o the_o contrary_a the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la in_o eusebius_n who_o use_v it_o to_o signify_v sometime_o a_o diocesan_n and_o provincial_n church_n he_o do_v so_o sometime_o i_o deny_v it_o not_o and_o so_o after_o he_o the_o father_n do_v use_v the_o word_n likewise_o as_o epiphanius_n theodoret_n chrysostome_n and_o the_o councille_n and_o history_n writer_n etc._n etc._n all_o this_o we_o know_v well_o but_o what_o have_v we_o to_o do_v with_o these_o author_n so_o late_o and_o so_o partial_a as_o these_o all_o be_v touch_v the_o exposition_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n ecclesia_fw-la the_o time_n that_o eusebius_n write_v in_o write_v when_o eusebius_n write_v be_v about_o 340._o year_n of_o christ_n or_o little_o less_o all_o the_o rest_n write_v after_o he_o at_o which_o time_n or_o before_o viz._n present_o under_o constantine_n the_o outward_a form_n of_o the_o church_n do_v so_o alter_v and_o change_v from_o that_o under_o the_o apostle_n even_o in_o substantial_a point_n of_o church_n polity_n or_o in_o such_o point_n as_o do_v come_v near_o to_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o that_o it_o appear_v outward_o to_o be_v almost_o not_o the_o same_o and_o as_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n alter_v so_o the_o father_n and_o council_n which_o be_v then_o much_o affect_v that_o state_n do_v alter_v the_o old_a use_n of_o ●he_n word_n pertain_v to_o these_o matter_n as_o they_o practise_v so_o likewise_o they_o speak_v and_o write_v and_o so_o have_v most_o man_n follow_v after_o they_o whereby_o at_o the_o last_o antichrist_n be_v undoubted_o advance_v but_o our_o noble_a 214._o noble_a our_o attestator_n before_o mention_v &_o special_o pag._n 104._o &_o after_o pag._n 214._o forefather_n of_o late_a have_v discover_v this_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n have_v find_v out_o also_o the_o corruption_n &_o depravation_n even_o of_o this_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la which_o have_v be_v extend_v large_a and_o far_o than_o apostolical_o it_o be_v the_o which_o abuse_v of_o this_o very_a word_n doubtless_o be_v a_o pregnant_a reason_n and_o mean_n among_o other_o to_o extend_v the_o church_n and_o government_n thereof_o to_o that_o universality_n which_o it_o come_v to_o and_o be_v still_o vehement_o challenge_v by_o the_o catholic_n wherefore_o great_a cause_n have_v we_o ad_fw-la originem_fw-la reverti_fw-la to_o go_v back_o even_o up_o to_o the_o first_o original_a and_o beginning_n as_o cyprian_n well_o advise_v us._n for_o so_o say_v he_o cessat_fw-la error_n humanus_fw-la thus_o and_o not_o otherwise_o error_n which_o have_v begin_v from_o man_n will_v cease_v wherefore_o we_o must_v refuse_v eusebius_n epiphanius_n theodoret_n and_o all_o either_o in_o or_o after_o their_o time_n for_o judge_n or_o interpreter_n of_o matter_n or_o word_n special_o touch_v church-governement_n the_o form_n whereof_o incline_v towards_o alteration_n yea_o somewhat_o before_o they_o as_o we_o may_v perceive_v in_o 6._o in_o can_v 6._o nic._n concile_v through_o humane_a ambition_n and_o desire_n of_o greatness_n which_o be_v incident_a even_o to_o the_o godly_a &_o best_a man_n but_o under_o constantin_n and_o after_o it_o degenerate_v much_o more_o wherefore_o in_o 127._o in_o see_v before_o pa._n 125._o 127._o conscience_n to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o bless_a word_n we_o must_v leave_v all_o man_n when_o they_o so_o palpable_o differ_v from_o the_o scripture_n as_o in_o this_o cause_n they_o do_v &_o cleave_v only_o and_o unseparable_o to_o the_o plain_a and_o 8.20_o and_o math_n 22.29_o joh._n 5.39.40_o isa_n 8.20_o proper_a writing_n of_o christ_n testament_n he_o 5._o he_o in_o his_o chap._n 5._o indeavour_v to_o make_v void_v some_o of_o our_o reason_n against_o diocesan_n church_n 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the_o present_a church-state_n in_o england_n even_o in_o the_o substantial_a point_n of_o government_n therein_o be_v clean_o frustrate_v neither_o be_v the_o same_o apostolical_a neither_o have_v it_o universal_a nor_o perpetual_a nor_o indeed_o any_o old_a approbation_n among_o christian_n as_o they_o colourable_o pretend_v but_o it_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v novel_a novel_a a_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n be_v novel_a and_o mere_o of_o the_o wit_n and_o will_v of_o man_n and_o that_o after_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n rise_v the_o contrary_a obiecton_n of_o our_o adversary_n i_o will_v here_o observe_v euseb_n d._n dove_n 3._o falsification_n of_o euseb_n as_o near_o as_o i_o can_v first_o that_o which_o d._n downame_n borrow_v of_o d._n dove_n viz._n that_o mark_v constitute_v a_o diocesan_n church_n in_o alexandria_n but_o this_o i_o have_v show_v 91._o show_v pag._n 90_o 91._o before_o to_o be_v a_o mere_a forgery_n of_o these_o two_o d._n d._n ground_v upon_o a_o false_a translation_n of_o their_o author_n eusebius_n and_o here_o i_o can_v not_o but_o remember_v a_o second_o and_o a_o three_o like_o falsify_v of_o eusebius_n by_o d._n dove_n in_o his_o defence_n the_o former_a of_o these_o be_v pag._n 13._o where_o he_o say_v eusebius_n word_n be_v these_o 3.4_o these_o euseb_n lib_n 3.4_o timothy_n be_v the_o first_o bishop_n of_o the_o whole_a precinct_n of_o ephesus_n in_o as_o ample_a manner_n as_o titus_n of_o all_o the_o church_n of_o crete_n eusebius_n say_v not_o that_o timothy_n be_v but_o he_o say_v it_o be_v report_v that_o timothy_n be_v the_o first_o bishop_n of_o ephesus_n as_o titus_n of_o the_o church_n of_o crete_n again_o eusebius_n say_v not_o of_o the_o whole_a precinct_n of_o ephesus_n nor_o in_o as_o ample_a manner_n there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n in_o eusebius_n author_n this_o be_v no_o translate_n but_o pervert_v a_o author_n thirly_n that_o which_o eusebius_n have_v indeed_o viz._n timothy_n be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v bishop_n of_o the_o parish_n in_o ephesus_n this_o he_o render_v not_o but_o pervert_v for_o in_o ephesus_n be_v not_o without_o the_o city_n much_o less_o the_o whole_a precinct_n of_o ephesus_n contain_v the_o large_a country_n adjoin_v yea_o that_o the_o church_n in_o ephesus_n be_v but_o a_o parish_n then_o ignatius_n show_v write_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o ephesus_n &_o say_v to_o they_o ephes._n they_o i●nat_n a●_n ephes._n when_o you_o come_v oft_o together_o into_o the_o same_o place_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o whole_a then_o do_v come_v together_o in_o one_o place_n and_o it_o be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o absurd_a to_o say_v that_o the_o like_a may_v be_v speak_v now_o of_o the_o place_n the_o can_v they_o all_o come_v together_o in_o one_o place_n diocesan_n church_n of_o london_n thus_o therefore_o eusebius_n be_v pervert_v twice_o by_o d._n dove_n his_o 3._o falsify_v of_o he_o be_v where_o eusebius_n say_v of_o john_n the_o apostle_n in_o a_o certain_a city_n graec._n city_n euseb_n lib._n 3.23_o graec._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v refresh_v the_o brother_n and_o look_v on_o the_o bishop_n that_o be_v set_v over_o all_o the_o say_a brethren_n of_o that_o place_n he_o commit_v a_o young_a man_n to_o he_o but_o the_o d._n set_v it_o down_o thus_o john_n the_o apostle_n commit_v the_o charge_n of_o a_o young_a man_n to_o a_o bishop_n 18._o bishop_n pag._n 15._o 18._o qui_fw-la super_fw-la cunst●s_fw-la episcopos_fw-la erat_fw-la constitutu●_n which_o be_v set_v over_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o bishop_n thereabouts_o as_o if_o then_o there_o have_v be_v a_o archbishop_n or_o a_o bishop_n over_o bishop_n so_o say_v this_o doctor_n as_o out_o of_o eusebius_n but_o he_o abuse_v his_o author_n eusebius_n have_v not_o such_o a_o word_n and_o yet_o d._n downame_n also_o 4.112_o also_o def._n 4.112_o allege_v the_o same_o place_n though_o he_o cunning_o forbear_v to_o mention_v the_o word_n doct._n downame_n further_a press_v eusebius_n in_o that_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v report_v that_o titus_n be_v bishop_n of_o the_o church_n of_o crete_n 233._o as_o also_o perpet_n govern_v pag._n 233._o he_o translate_v it_o be_v record_v in_o history_n but_o he_o can_v not_o make_v that_o good_a in_o this_o place_n for_o the_o word_n signifi_v any_o relation_n or_o narration_n or_o report_v of_o a_o matter_n and_o eusebius_n use_v always_o to_o name_v his_o author_n &_o at_o full_a to_o set_v down_o the_o word_n when_o he_o ground_v upon_o any_o write_a history_n so_o he_o cit_v very_o often_o egesippus_fw-la clemens_n dionysius_n tertullian_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o questionless_a here_o he_o mean_v some_o other_o report_n or_o tradition_n and_o speech_n of_o man_n i_o know_v not_o who_o and_o in_o set_v down_o such_o matter_n he_o be_v nothing_o curious_a many_o time_n as_o 92._o as_o pag._n 91._o 92._o before_o i_o have_v signify_v not_o seldom_o he_o report_v fabulous_a thing_n yea_o when_o he_o name_v his_o author_n credit_n eusebius_n of_o no_o absolute_a credit_n as_o be_v well_o know_v and_o yet_o he_o be_v all_o the_o warrant_n and_o ground_n which_o any_o writer_n have_v either_o young_a or_o old_a for_o tius_n his_o be_v bishop_n of_o crete_n theodoret_n epiphanius_n chrysostomus_n jerome_n etc._n etc._n name_n dorotheus_n synop_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o name_n have_v all_o their_o inducement_n so_o to_o think_v from_o hence_o all_o these_o also_o themselves_o be_v great_a prelate_n or_o lover_n of_o prelate_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v hold_v they_o partial_a in_o set_v down_o and_o receive_v such_o report_n what_o wisdom_n then_o be_v in_o do._n downame_n to_o say_v it_o be_v a_o uncharitable_a and_o unlearned_a part_n yea_o intolerable_a impudency_n to_o deny_v credit_n to_o such_o authority_n it_o be_v rather_o intolerable_a impiety_n and_o plain_a idolatry_n to_o set_v up_o these_o and_o such_o like_a for_o rule_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o warrant_n to_o our_o conscience_n as_o the_o d._n labour_v to_o do_v in_o this_o cause_n howbeit_o further_o eusebius_n say_v not_o that_o titus_n be_v say_v to_o be_v bishop_n of_o crete_n but_o only_o so_o as_o timothy_n be_v bishop_n of_o ephesus_n where_o he_o seem_v to_o mean_v that_o both_o of_o they_o be_v then_o think_v to_o be_v not_o proper_a bishop_n but_o in_o the_o general_a sense_n and_o understanding_n of_o the_o word_n bishop_n and_o so_o he_o seem_v to_o mean_v also_o that_o mark_n be_v say_v to_o be_v bish_n of_o alexandria_n who_o yet_o he_o name_v a_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n &_o james_n a_o apostle_n in_o deed_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n i_o say_v in_o a_o general_a sense_n but_o not_o bishop_n proper_o and_o so_o true_o the_o other_o father_n after_o eusebius_n do_v seem_v to_o mean_v and_o we_o accord_v thus_o with_o they_o otherwise_o we_o must_v needs_o deny_v credit_n to_o they_o herein_o viz._n if_o eusebius_n etc._n etc._n say_v these_o be_v proper_a bishop_n for_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o they_o can_v be_v so_o see_v they_o be_v both_o superior_a and_o also_o divine_o distinguish_v from_o proper_a bishop_n as_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v further_o where_o further_a occasion_n will_v be_v give_v we_o to_o answer_v d._n downame_n about_o timothy_n &_o titus_n bishoprike_v again_o 116._o again_o def._n 2.23_o and_o 116._o d._n downame_n cit_v out_o of_o council_n carthage_n 3._o and_o ephes_n 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o beginning_n and_o even_o from_o the_o apostle_n as_o 324._o as_o perpet_n gov_fw-mi pag._n 324._o doct._n bilson_n before_o he_o avouch_v but_o both_o of_o they_o wrest_v the_o councille_n for_o they_o say_v not_o so_o only_o they_o say_v that_o diocese_n shall_v remain_v such_o as_o they_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n that_o be_v ever_o since_o diocese_n be_v appoint_v not_o from_o the_o beginning_n simple_o but_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o diocese_n which_o though_o it_o be_v long_o before_o these_o council_n yet_o as_o i_o judge_v it_o be_v not_o before_o 92.93_o before_o about_o the_o year_n 260._o see_v before_o pag._n 92.93_o dionysius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o touch_v the_o apostle_n the_o ephesin_n council_n speak_v of_o the_o apostle_n canon_n be_v strange_o deceive_v in_o attribute_v they_o to_o the_o apostle_n as_o any_o one_o may_v perceive_v if_o he_o see_v the_o can._n 4.5.8.17_o 18.27.47.49.65_o 68_o 84.25_o wherefore_o they_o be_v false_o father_v on_o the_o apostle_n be_v but_o base_a and_o bastardly_a stuff_n in_o respect_n of_o they_o and_o yet_o they_o intend_v no_o 98._o no_o see_v before_o pag._n 88_o 97._o 98._o proper_a diocesan_n church_n viz._n like_o we_o in_o england_n neither_o be_v these_o canon_n before_o constantine_n age_n so_o that_o our_o d._n d._n do_v argue_v from_o hence_o very_o unworthy_o but_o d._n
otherwise_o here_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v beside_o i_o remember_v not_o above_o ofte●_n above_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o which_o be_v not_o ofte●_n one_o such_o place_n as_o he_o signifi_v and_o yet_o there_o it_o be_v in_o the_o plural_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d power_n not_o in_o the_o singular_a between_o which_o place_n and_o we_o in_o hand_n there_o be_v apparent_o very_o great_a difference_n again_o he_o say_v to_o deliver_v unto_o satan_n be_v more_o than_o to_o excommunicate_v it_o be_v not_o yea_o &_o himself_o hold_v so_o likewise_o 58._o likewise_o against_o the_o semina_fw-la part_n 3._o pag._n 58._o heretofore_o he_o which_o be_v excommunicate_a and_o as_o a_o heathen_a be_v out_o of_o christ_n kingdom_n and_o be_v out_o of_o christ_n kingdom_n he_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o satan_n therefore_o it_o be_v all_o one_o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o many_o be_v seclude_v from_o the_o company_n of_o the_o godly_a for_o a_o time_n that_o be_v not_o yield_v to_o satan_n or_o that_o many_o be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n by_o the_o church_n assemble_v together_o as_o this_o be_v do_v here_o without_o excommunication_n or_o that_o ananias_n and_o elymas_n be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n which_o himself_o 54._o himself_o against_o the_o seminar_n part_n 3._o pag._n 53_o 54._o be_o contradict_v he_o touch_v here_o many_o thing_n beside_o to_o no_o purpose_n viz._n this_o sinner_n be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n that_o it_o may_v bring_v he_o to_o repentance_n why_o and_o that_o be_v the_o proper_a end_n of_o excommunication_n again_o the_o end_n of_o this_o action_n be_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o in_o excommunication_n have_v no_o sense_n except_o it_o be_v metaphorical_a it_o be_v not_o so_o this_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n viz._n the_o lust_n of_o the_o flesh_n have_v great_a sense_n in_o excommunication_n and_o it_o seem_v rather_o a_o metonymicall_a phrase_n than_o a_o metaphorical_a as_o he_o name_v it_o he_o add_v excommunication_n indanger_v the_o spirit_n and_o touch_v not_o the_o flesh_n nay_o it_o be_v intend_v to_o save_v the_o spirit_n that_o be_v the_o regenerate_v man_n by_o repentance_n so_o the_o spirit_n be_v 5.5_o be_v 1._o cor._n 5.5_o here_o understand_v also_o excommunication_n touch_v the_o flesh_n for_o it_o serve_v to_o humble_a and_o mortify_v the_o lust_n of_o the_o flesh_n or_o the_o unregenerat_a man_n he_o say_v this_o be_v doom_n not_o by_o excommunication_n but_o by_o repentance_n strange_o speak_v i_o say_v it_o be_v do_v by_o both_o for_o these_o be_v subordinat_a not_o opposite_a as_o well_o he_o may_v say_v the_o lust_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o destroy_v by_o god_n word_n but_o by_o repentance_n the_o truth_n of_o both_o be_v alike_o here_o also_o the_o one_o of_o itself_o be_v no_o consequent_a to_o the_o other_o for_o many_o be_v preach_v unto_o that_o never_o repent_v aswella_n excommunicate_v that_o never_o repent_v and_o yet_o who_o know_v not_o that_o god_n have_v ordain_v that_o repentance_n shall_v follow_v from_o both_o as_o it_o do_v indeed_o in_o many_o who_o will_v not_o wonder_v to_o see_v such_o dally_a in_o such_o a_o man_n in_o a_o cause_n so_o serious_a the_o like_a be_v also_o where_o he_o say_v excommunication_n be_v before_o and_o after_o in_o other_o word_n express_v yea_o and_o this_o be_v not_o against_o our_o sense_n of_o deliver_v to_o satan_n but_o much_o for_o it_o see_v all_o the_o circunstance_n &_o coherence_n of_o the_o text_n here_o both_o before_o and_o after_o speak_v only_o of_o excommunication_n and_o the_o phrase_n itself_o to_o deliver_v to_o satan_n be_v so_o fit_a and_o agreeable_a to_o express_v the_o same_o even_o according_a to_o christ_n description_n of_o it_o 18.17_o it_o mat._n 18.17_o let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a that_o be_v without_o the_o church_n christ_n kingdom_n under_o the_o power_n and_o rule_v of_o satan_n in_o like_a state_n and_o condition_n as_o the_o very_a infidel_n and_o unbeliever_n be_v this_o therefore_o be_v much_o for_o us._n but_o say_v he_o 100_o he_o pag._n 100_o this_o be_v no_o such_o new_a find_v or_o vain_a exposition_n chrysostome_n jerome_n ambrose_n theodoret_n occumenius_n theophilact_n etc._n etc._n embrace_v it_o wonderful_a this_o opinion_n and_o these_o very_a testimony_n he_o cite_v 54.56_o cite_v against_o the_o semin_fw-fr part_n 3._o pag_n 54.56_o heretofore_o as_o be_v the_o papist_n then_o he_o ●5_n he_o pag_n ●5_n resist_v &_o refute_v the_o sam●_n at_o large_a by_o 5._o by_o ambr._n in_o 1_o cor._n 5._o ambrose_n 49._o ambrose_n august_n in_o que●t_n vet_z &_o nov_n test_n 49._o austin_n and_o r●par_fw-la and_o jerom_n ad_fw-la hiliod_n &_o ad_fw-la r●par_fw-la jerome_n insinuate_v that_o this_o 5._o this_o jerom._n in_o 1._o cor._n 5._o jerome_n which_o now_o he_o ground_v on_o &_o which_o then_o the_o papist_n allege_v be_v a_o counterfeit_a or_o suspect_v at_o least_o be_v this_o fidelity_n be_v this_o upright_o deal_n for_o advantage_n to_o join_v with_o the_o antichristian_a enemy_n yea_o against_o himself_o to_o allow_v of_o the_o self_n same_o witness_n which_o himself_o then_o brand_v with_o infamy_n oppose_v chrysostome_n to_o chrysostome_n jerome_n to_o jerome_n ambrose_n there_o to_o ambrose_n here_o and_o which_o pass_v interpret_n the_o same_o word_n of_o theodoret_n contrary_a here_o to_o that_o he_o do_v 59_o do_v pag._n 59_o there_o what_o mutability_n be_v this_o but_o to_o the_o point_n i_o answer_v this_o his_o sense_n out_o of_o chrysostome_n etc._n etc._n here_o can_v not_o be_v true_a viz._n that_o this_o deliver_n to_o satan_n be_v to_o be_v torment_v corporal_o by_o satan_n for_o then_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o corinth_n have_v this_o miraculous_a power_n give_v they_o at_o paul_n appointement_n they_o be_v then_o the_o visible_a instrumental_a doer_n of_o this_o apostolic_a miracle_n in_o paul_n behalf_n also_o than_o the_o apostle_n have_v power_n and_o do_v use_v to_o strike_v man_n who_o they_o never_o see_v nor_o speak_v with_o be_v far_o from_o they_o in_o other_o country_n all_o which_o how_o absurd_a they_o be_v who_o see_v not_o again_o this_o sinner_n 2._o sinner_n 2._o cor._n 2._o restore_v be_v without_o miracle_n his_o cast_v out_o therefore_o be_v so_o likewise_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v think_v that_o 8.20_o that_o 1._o tim._n 8.20_o paul_n corporal_o torment_v 103._o torment_v pag._n 103._o hymenaus_n and_o alexander_n he_o only_o excommunicate_v they_o and_o yet_o not_o he_o alone_o but_o with_o the_o church_n concurrence_n and_o consent_n whereof_o they_o be_v for_o so_o be_v his_o practice_n in_o other_o action_n of_o church-governement_n as_o we_o see_v in_o 226._o in_o pag._n 226._o another_o place_n he_o read_v 2._o thess_n 3.14_o not_o as_o it_o shall_v be_v he_o read_v if_o any_o obey_v not_o our_o say_n note_v he_o by_o a_o letter_n it_o shall_v be_v 1●_n be_v bez._n in_o thes_n 3_o 1●_n if_o any_o obey_v not_o our_o say_n in_o the_o epistle_n note_v he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v he_o &_o withdraw_v yourselves_o from_o he_o as_o it_o be_v in_o vers_n 6._o this_o he_o require_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o the_o thessalonian_o to_o do_v not_o to_o signify_v such_o a_o one_o to_o paul_n that_o he_o may_v do_v it_o the_o word_n be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o i_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d set_v a_o mark_n on_o he_o viz._n of_o excommunication_n for_o it_o can_v bear_v no_o other_o sense_n now_o touch_v call_v to_o the_o ministry_n 66._o ministry_n chap._n 7._o pag._n 66._o he_o labour_v to_o take_v from_o we_o quite_o first_o act._n 1._o about_o mathias_n election_n to_o be_v a_o apostle_n it_o be_v true_a as_o he_o say_v a_o apostle_n may_v not_o be_v choose_v by_o man_n yet_o here_o god_n will_n be_v that_o man_n shall_v and_o they_o do_v go_v about_o this_o election_n and_o proceed_v in_o it_o and_o manage_v the_o same_o so_o far_o as_o possible_o man_n may_v that_o be_v man_n perform_v many_o weighty_a and_o remarkable_a part_n therein_o not_o that_o there_o be_v any_o simple_a necessity_n for_o man_n to_o concur_v herein_o but_o only_o it_o please_v god_n it_o shall_v be_v so_o for_o a_o example_n to_o posterity_n to_o follow_v &_o to_o practice_v all_o that_o be_v ordinary_a in_o the_o same_o d._n bilson_n except_v it_o be_v not_o express_v that_o the_o church_n intermedle_v in_o the_o choice_n of_o mathias_n which_o be_v not_o true_a for_o first_o all_o this_o action_n be_v perform_v 23._o perform_v act._n 1.15_o vers_fw-la 23._o in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o church_n second_o 24._o second_o vers_fw-la 24._o they_o appoint_v two_o and_o 26._o and_o vers_fw-la 26._o they_o pray_v and_o they_o cast_v lot_n and_o he_o be_v account_v by_o common_a consent_n as_o it_o