Selected quad for the lemma: country_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
country_n	church_n	city_n	congregation_n	1,463	5	9.9378	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A88105	Light for smoke: or, A cleare and distinct reply by Iohn Ley, one of the Assembly of Divines at Westminster, to a darke and confused answer in a booke made, and intituled The smoke in the temple, by Iohn Saltmarsh, late preacher at Brasteed in Kent, now revolted both from his pastorall calling and charge. Whereto is added, Novello-mastix, or a scourge for a scurrilous news-monger.	Ley, John, 1583-1662.; C. D. Novello-mastix.	1646 (1646)	Wing L1883; Thomason E333_2; Thomason E333_3; ESTC R200742	90,377	128

their_o tenet_n smoke_n pag._n 50._o the_o bishop_n have_v a_o better_a prescription_n even_o by_o law_n for_o their_o government_n then_o we_o i_o then_o independent_o but_o how_o be_v this_o be_v a_o legal_a prescription_n better_o hold_v the_o a_o gospel_n prescription_n light_n in_o this_o and_o some_o line_n next_o follow_v you_o take_v that_o for_o grant_v which_o we_o can_v yield_v nor_o can_v you_o ever_o prove_v viz._n that_o your_o independency_n be_v pure_o evangelicall_n which_o if_o you_o can_v make_v good_a but_o the_o text_n you_o have_v crowd_v together_o at_o the_o end_n of_o your_o open_n of_o mr._n prinnes_n vindication_n will_v not_o do_v it_o you_o shall_v make_v i_o of_o your_o religion_n when_o you_o let_v i_o know_v which_o it_o be_v you_o will_v choose_v and_o stand_v to_o when_o you_o have_v choose_v sect_n xix_o of_o the_o pretend_a modesty_n and_o humility_n of_o the_o independent_o by_o way_n of_o comparison_n with_o the_o presbyterian_o smoke_n pag._n 50._o but_o there_o be_v one_o government_n set_v up_o already_o a_o civil_a parliamentary_a government_n and_o will_v you_o set_v up_o another_o above_o that_o or_o coordinate_a with_o it_o will_v you_o set_v up_o one_o government_n to_o rule_v another_o or_o tutor_v another_o light_n and_o if_o your_o independent_a government_n be_v set_v up_o which_o you_o account_v a_o evangelicall_n and_o scripture_n government_n christ_n golden_a sceptre_n christ_n upon_o his_o throne_n shall_v that_o government_n be_v above_o the_o civil_a government_n or_o coordinate_a with_o it_o will_v you_o set_v up_o this_o government_n to_o rule_v the_o other_o or_o tutor_v the_o other_o when_o you_o have_v answer_v these_o query_n put_v upon_o independency_n you_o will_v see_v it_o will_v not_o be_v difficult_a to_o answer_v the_o like_o concern_v presbytery_n yet_o it_o be_v evident_a to_o all_o that_o make_v any_o serious_a observation_n on_o both_o way_n that_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n be_v more_o moderate_a more_o subordinate_a to_o the_o parliamentary_a government_n than_o the_o independent_a because_o that_o be_v humble_o submit_v to_o the_o debate_n of_o the_o parliament_n for_o approbation_n of_o it_o and_o wait_v for_o their_o civil_a establishment_n before_o any_o part_n of_o it_o be_v put_v into_o execution_n and_o practice_n the_o independent_a government_n in_o this_o respect_n independent_a on_o the_o parliament_n as_o well_o as_o on_o classical_a provincial_n and_o nationall_n assembly_n come_v under_o no_o such_o trial_n of_o they_o but_o be_v set_v up_o without_o any_o authority_n from_o they_o smoke_n pag._n 50._o and_o must_v you_o need_v set_v up_o as_o large_a a_o dominion_n as_o the_o civil_a power_n have_v must_v your_o presbytery_n be_v as_o ample_a as_o high_a as_o supreme_a as_o the_o parliament_n will_v no_o less_o territory_n or_o kingdom_n serve_v it_o but_o all_o england_n whole_a nation_n must_v christ_n government_n be_v just_a as_o long_o as_o broad_a as_o the_o world_n light_n here_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o aggravate_v rhetoric_n to_o bring_v in_o a_o suspicion_n of_o a_o vast_a and_o unlimited_a domination_n of_o the_o presbytery_n and_o i_o pray_v you_o sr_n if_o independency_n be_v the_o parliament_n darling_n as_o you_o desire_v it_o will_v nor_o you_o wish_v it_o and_z if_o you_o can_v procure_v it_o to_o be_v set_v up_o in_o every_o city_n and_o town_n in_o england_n will_v not_o you_o that_o think_v it_o a_o good_a government_n the_o best_a government_n advance_v your_o good_a opinion_n of_o it_o &_o well-wishing_n to_o it_o according_a to_o the_o maxim_n bonum_fw-la que_fw-la communius_fw-la comelius_a every_o good_a thing_n the_o more_o common_a the_o more_o commendable_a we_o observe_v your_o sedulitie_n in_o spread_v your_o opinion_n into_o remote_a region_n and_o can_v but_o conceive_v by_o your_o zeal_n and_o activity_n for_o your_o cause_n that_o you_o be_v ambitious_a like_o the_o spaniard_n to_o enlarge_v your_o religion_n as_o he_o his_o dominion_n whereof_o 7._o whereof_o myraeus_n comment_fw-fr de_fw-fr bello_fw-la bohemic_a p._n 7._o myraeus_n say_v that_o the_o sun_n never_o set_v but_o always_o shine_v in_o some_o place_n or_o other_o where_o he_o reign_v smoke_n pag._n 50._o now_o reader_n judge_v which_o government_n affect_v dominion_n which_o bring_v in_o whole_a nation_n under_o the_o sceptre_n of_o it_o poor_a scripture_n government_n can_v be_v content_a to_o sit_v down_o in_o a_o village_n to_o the_o church_n in_o thy_o house_n say_v the_o spirit_n in_o a_o city_n as_o corinth_n and_o over_o but_o a_o few_o there_o the_o saint_n only_o in_o fellowship_n to_o the_o church_n in_o corinth_n in_o a_o country_n not_o over_o a_o country_n to_o the_o seven_o church_n in_o asia_n not_o of_o asia_n not_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n or_o the_o church_n asia_n a_o church_n take_v in_o half_a part_n of_o the_o world_n light_n and_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v how_o much_o of_o rove_a fancy_n and_o fond_a affection_n how_o little_a judgement_n be_v in_o this_o paragraph_n which_o government_n say_v you_o affect_v dominion_n etc._n etc._n speak_v proper_o sir_n and_o the_o truth_n will_v better_o appear_v and_o be_v more_o ready_a for_o sentence_n and_o judgement_n and_o then_o your_o question_n will_v be_v which_o sort_n of_o those_o that_o stand_v for_o government_n for_o the_o government_n as_o abstract_v from_o they_o have_v no_o affection_n at_o all_o affect_v dominion_n more_o you_o say_v poor_a scripture_n government_n can_v be_v content_a to_o sit_v down_o in_o a_o village_n to_o the_o church_n in_o thy_o house_n etc._n etc._n where_o you_o assume_v and_o presuppose_v which_o i_o deny_v that_o independency_n be_v a_o government_n either_o poor_a or_o pure_a according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o for_o independent_a minister_n when_o you_o see_v they_o so_o place_v in_o the_o city_n in_o the_o chief_a city_n of_o the_o kingdom_n cull_v out_o of_o man_n charge_n the_o fair_a and_o fat_a of_o their_o flock_n to_o be_v the_o material_n and_o member_n of_o their_o new-gathered_n church_n and_o so_o order_v their_o sermon_n and_o covenant_v with_o their_o hearer_n that_o they_o have_v the_o most_o populous_a congregation_n all_o sect_n come_v to_o hear_v they_o and_o adhere_v to_o they_o as_o to_o their_o patron_n who_o will_v not_o come_v to_o the_o sermon_n of_o the_o most_o orthodox_n and_o able_a preacher_n of_o the_o presbyterial_a way_n when_o you_o know_v or_o may_v know_v that_o most_o of_o they_o be_v eminent_o rich_a than_o other_o minister_n how_o can_v you_o how_o dare_v you_o brag_v of_o the_o humility_n and_o poverty_n of_o independency_n sit_v down_o content_v with_o a_o village_n especial_o when_o none_o of_o those_o who_o set_v up_o independency_n in_o england_n plant_v themselves_o in_o a_o village_n except_o in_o vicinity_n to_o some_o great_a city_n where_o they_o may_v have_v the_o profit_n and_o comfort_n and_o the_o best_a accommodation_n of_o city_n and_o country_n and_o for_o the_o small_a church_n in_o a_o house_n or_o a_o particular_a city_n in_o a_o country_n not_o over_o a_o country_n in_o asia_n not_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n this_o make_v no_o more_o for_o independency_n then_o for_o presbytery_n when_o there_o be_v too_o few_o profess_v the_o faith_n to_o be_v sort_v into_o congregation_n classical_a provincial_n and_o nationall_n assembly_n and_o so_o your_o instance_n can_v be_v a_o fit_a pattern_n for_o these_o time_n wherein_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v receive_v all_o over_o the_o kingdom_n sect_n xx._n whether_o christ_n if_o he_o will_v have_v a_o national_a comprehensive_a church_n be_v bind_v to_o have_v begin_v the_o practice_n of_o it_o over_o whole_a kingdom_n as_o mr._n saltm_n say_v and_o whether_o import_v more_o pride_n to_o desire_v a_o subordination_n of_o assembly_n parochial_a classical_a etc._n etc._n then_o to_o be_v adverse_a to_o it_o smoke_n pag._n 50_o 51._o sure_a if_o christ_n will_v have_v have_v such_o a_o national_a comprehensive_a church_n he_o will_v have_v convert_v king_n and_o prince_n first_o and_o they_o shall_v have_v give_v up_o their_o kingdom_n to_o jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o way_n of_o a_o presbyterian_a light_n to_o this_o i_o oppose_v your_o own_o word_n both_o in_o your_o 38._o your_o new_a querie_n repeat_v in_o my_o examination_n sect._n 12._o p._n 38._o querie_n and_o in_o your_o smoke_n in_o both_o which_o place_n you_o tell_v your_o reader_n that_o the_o publication_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o proposal_n of_o church_n government_n be_v bring_v in_o at_o distance_n heresy_n say_v you_o may_v have_v grow_v from_o johns_n first_o sermon_n to_o paul_n epistle_n and_o the_o send_n of_o the_o spirit_n but_o you_o see_v there_o be_v no_o government_n settle_v till_o afterward_o upon_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o in_o your_o last_o you_o tell_v i_o that_o

be_v a_o pattern_n to_o another_o so_o far_o as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v a_o pattern_n to_o it_o as_o paul_n say_v to_o the_o corinthian_n be_v you_o follower_n of_o i_o even_o as_o i_o also_o be_o of_o christ_n 1_o cor._n 11.1_o or_o where_o it_o be_v silent_a so_o far_o as_o the_o light_n of_o reason_n direct_v sect_n v._o whether_o classical_a provincial_n and_o nationall_n presbytery_n be_v like_o the_o independent_o gather_v of_o church_n smoke_n pag._n 23._o and_o when_o people_n be_v instruct_v still_o your_o work_n remain_v to_o prove_v your_o presbytery_n over_o congregation_n or_o a_o church_n gather_v out_o of_o a_o church_n to_o be_v over_o a_o church_n which_o may_v upon_o the_o presbytery_n more_o inst_o be_v recriminate_v then_o where_o you_o do_v so_o often_o recriminate_a upon_o gather_a church_n and_o i_o think_v to_o i_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o tax_v any_o for_o church-gathering_a when_o your_o presbytery_n be_v maintain_v by_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o principle_n what_o be_v your_o classical_a your_o provincial_n your_o nationall_n presbytery_n but_o a_o church_n gather_v out_o of_o the_o rest_n call_v it_o a_o veronall_a or_o representative_a or_o what_o you_o please_v light_n still_o your_o work_n remain_v you_o be_v still_o put_v work_n upon_o i_o as_o i_o tell_v you_o before_o which_o be_v no_o part_n of_o my_o undertake_n when_o i_o examine_v your_o quere_z and_o as_o unwilling_a to_o perform_v your_o own_o for_o you_o say_v in_o the_o next_o precedent_n paragraph_n it_o be_v not_o your_o work_n to_o dispute_v the_o interest_n of_o elder_n and_o people_n distinct_o and_o yet_o you_o have_v take_v upon_o you_o a_o discourse_n of_o church_n order_n in_o the_o open_n of_o mr._n prinnes_n vindication_n i_o do_v not_o so_o nor_o be_v it_o needful_a in_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v full_o do_v by_o other_o nor_o direct_o incident_a to_o my_o answer_n to_o your_o paper_n nor_o if_o i_o think_v it_o fit_a to_o argue_v and_o to_o discuss_v that_o controversy_n will_v i_o do_v it_o in_o a_o debate_n with_o you_o for_o the_o reason_n fore-alleadged_n and_o for_o your_o recrimination_n that_o classical_a provincial_n and_o nationall_n presbytery_n be_v gather_n of_o church_n out_o of_o church_n which_o the_o presbyterian_o condemn_v in_o your_o party_n it_o be_v a_o very_a impertinent_a and_o perverse_a comparison_n wherein_o there_o be_v many_o considerable_a difference_n that_o make_v it_o criminal_a in_o your_o church_n and_o commendable_a in_o classical_a provincial_n and_o nationall_n assembly_n which_o beside_o many_o other_o be_v these_o first_o these_o subordinate_a gather_n be_v not_o make_v out_o of_o any_o conceit_n favour_v of_o singularity_n disdain_n or_o contempt_n of_o entire_a communion_n with_o those_o out_o of_o who_o they_o be_v gather_v as_o in_o your_o gather_n of_o church_n but_o out_o of_o care_n and_o compassion_n to_o they_o to_o consult_v and_o provide_v for_o their_o good_a as_o the_o gather_n of_o the_o principal_a patriot_n out_o of_o the_o country_n to_o be_v unite_v in_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o be_v not_o for_o make_v of_o a_o schism_n from_o their_o country_n but_o for_o meet_v in_o counsel_n and_o care_n for_o their_o country_n second_o this_o gather_n into_o class_n etc._n etc._n be_v with_o consent_n and_o free_a choice_n of_o those_o society_n out_o of_o which_o they_o be_v gather_v as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o choice_n of_o knight_n citizen_n and_o burgess_n for_o the_o parliament_n not_o so_o in_o your_o church_n gather_n for_o those_o who_o be_v leave_v out_o when_o you_o admit_v of_o member_n in_o your_o select_a choice_n for_o churchway_n be_v displease_v with_o your_o neglect_n of_o they_o and_o refusal_n to_o administer_v all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n unto_o they_o three_o those_o who_o you_o call_v out_o as_o member_n of_o your_o new_a gather_a church_n may_v more_o convenient_o join_v together_o in_o the_o administration_n of_o holy_a thing_n as_o they_o be_v by_o god_n providence_n dispose_v of_o in_o parishional_a dwelling_n than_o your_o covenant_v member_n who_o be_v many_o time_n in_o their_o habitation_n as_o far_o distant_a as_o london_n and_o dover_n yea_o sometime_o as_o far_o as_o london_n and_o amsterdam_n raterdam_n arnhem_n or_o new_a england_n but_o the_o gather_n of_o pastor_n and_o elder_n into_o classical_a assembly_n be_v make_v with_o much_o conveniency_n and_o withal_o in_o a_o kind_n of_o necessity_n because_o the_o church_n who_o they_o represent_v can_v possible_o all_o of_o they_o convene_v in_o one_o place_n or_o if_o they_o can_v they_o will_v be_v too_o many_o to_o be_v draw_v from_o their_o dwelling_n too_o many_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o counsel_n and_o censure_n four_o gather_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n into_o class_n etc._n etc._n make_v much_o for_o preservation_n of_o truth_n and_o peace_n in_o parochial_a congregation_n but_o your_o gather_n of_o church_n be_v and_o have_v prove_v the_o mean_n to_o broach_v error_n and_o breed_v schism_n five_o the_o gather_n of_o elder_n for_o consultation_n and_o provision_n for_o the_o welfare_n of_o other_o particular_a church_n as_o it_o have_v sure_a ground_n of_o religious_a reason_n so_o have_v it_o the_o honour_n of_o most_o ancient_a and_o honourable_a prescription_n from_o the_o 1636._o the_o bin._n tom._n 1._o council_n pag._n 2._o excus_n paris_n 1636._o fourteen_o year_n after_o the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n act._n 15._o to_o this_o day_n whereas_o your_o gather_v of_o church_n out_o of_o church_n in_o a_o state_n and_o a_o time_n of_o reformation_n be_v a_o new_a device_n never_o practise_v or_o approve_v by_o the_o godly_a in_o former_a age_n six_o the_o gather_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n into_o assembly_n classical_a etc._n etc._n be_v authorize_v by_o the_o parliament_n the_o supreme_a judicatory_a of_o the_o kingdom_n whereas_o your_o church_n gather_v be_v not_o allow_v by_o authority_n but_o take_v up_o without_o it_o and_o against_o it_o sect_n vi_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o require_v a_o undertake_n that_o the_o best_a government_n in_o constitution_n shall_v he_o faultless_a in_o execution_n tyrannic_a more_o to_o be_v fear_v in_o independency_n then_o in_o presbytery_n smoke_n pag._n 23._o but_o what_o if_o such_o at_o yourself_o and_o some_o other_o godly_a meek_a of_o your_o way_n may_v propound_v nothing_o but_o way_n of_o meekness_n can_v you_o undertake_v to_o secure_v the_o people_n for_o hereafter_o and_o for_o all_o and_o for_o the_o way_n in_o its_o own_o nature_n light_n it_o be_v a_o most_o unreasonable_a thing_n that_o you_o shall_v require_v such_o a_o security_n of_o those_o who_o have_v the_o great_a authority_n in_o their_o hand_n much_o less_o shall_v you_o look_v for_o it_o from_o any_o private_a man_n minister_n or_o other_o since_o no_o government_n how_o warrantable_a so_o ever_o if_o manage_v by_o sinful_a man_n can_v be_v secure_v from_o all_o abuse_n either_o by_o fall_v short_a of_o duty_n by_o remisenesse_n or_o overshoot_n it_o by_o rigour_n but_o sir_n any_o rational_a man_n that_o know_v the_o regular_a constitution_n of_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n and_o the_o experimental_a execution_n of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n where_o it_o be_v establish_v may_v be_v more_o bold_a to_o undertake_v for_o it_o both_o for_o the_o government_n itself_o and_o for_o the_o most_o probable_a consequence_n of_o it_o than_o any_o may_v engage_v for_o the_o way_n of_o independency_n and_o the_o manifold_a evil_a effect_n and_o fruit_n of_o it_o whereof_o see_v mr._n etc._n mr._n c._n 3._o a_o p_o 59_o etc._n etc._n bayly_n his_o dissuasive_a from_o error_n smoke_n pag._n 23._o you_o know_v episcopacis_n begin_v in_o meekness_n and_o bishop_n be_v bring_v in_o first_o for_o good_a and_o for_o peace_n but_o how_o prove_v they_o tyranny_n have_v ever_o a_o countenance_n of_o meekness_n and_o love_n till_o it_o get_v seat_v on_o the_o throne_n light_n episcopacy_n begin_v at_o such_o a_o time_n as_o this_o wherein_o we_o live_v and_o upon_o occasion_n of_o such_o a_o evil_a as_o now_o be_v much_o complain_v of_o viz._n the_o turn_n of_o religion_n into_o faction_n and_o it_o be_v take_v up_o as_o a_o remedy_n against_o it_o but_o when_o in_o stead_n of_o a_o antidote_n against_o contention_n it_o become_v a_o engine_n of_o oppression_n by_o the_o slothfulness_n of_o some_o as_o well_o as_o by_o the_o ambition_n of_o other_o for_o if_o some_o have_v not_o be_v willing_a to_o do_v too_o little_a other_o have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o usurp_v too_o much_o presbytery_n be_v by_o the_o reform_a church_n restore_v and_o the_o presidencie_n which_o before_o be_v perpetual_a for_o fear_n of_o the_o return_n of_o tyranny_n be_v make_v so_o mutable_a that_o none_o may_v be_v ambitious_a of_o it_o or_o injurious_a by_o it_o and_o if_o

54._o that_o smoke_n p._n 54._o you_o show_v i_o that_o no_o government_n begin_v with_o the_o gospel_n manifestation_n by_o which_o say_v you_o i_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o if_o government_n have_v be_v of_o such_o moral_a necessity_n why_o be_v it_o not_o give_v out_o with_o the_o gospel_n first_o give_v out_o albeit_o then_o the_o gospel_n begin_v not_o with_o the_o conversion_n of_o king_n and_o whole_a kingdom_n yet_o the_o progress_n of_o it_o have_v be_v so_o prosperous_a as_o to_o prevail_v so_o far_o and_o with_o the_o extent_n of_o it_o may_v the_o government_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v extend_v also_o and_o it_o may_v be_v set_v up_o after_o it_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n rather_o than_o with_o it_o smoke_n pag._n 51._o nay_o it_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v so_o jesus_n christ_n be_v bind_v in_o the_o way_n of_o righteousness_n to_o have_v begin_v the_o practice_n and_o model_n to_o we_o over_o whole_a kingdom_n have_v not_o leave_v it_o in_o precept_n in_o the_o whole_a gospel_n and_o we_o ought_v either_o to_o have_v practice_n or_o precept_n to_o order_n and_o command_v we_o in_o what_o we_o obey_v light_n what_o aught_o christ_n or_o be_v he_o bind_v in_o the_o way_n of_o righteousness_n to_o begin_v the_o gospel_n with_o conversion_n of_o king_n and_o whole_a kingdom_n if_o he_o mean_v to_o have_v such_o a_o nationall_n and_o comprehensive_a church_n as_o the_o presbyterian_o plead_v for_o be_v he_o not_o free_a to_o begin_v the_o publication_n of_o it_o where_o he_o please_v in_o the_o wilderness_n of_o judea_n rather_o than_o in_o the_o city_n jerusalem_n and_o to_o who_o he_o please_v to_o shepherd_n in_o the_o field_n rather_o than_o to_o augustus_n in_o the_o court_n if_o it_o have_v begin_v there_o first_o it_o may_v have_v be_v suspect_v as_o a_o politic_a devise_n like_o that_o which_o 63._o which_o machiav_n disp_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 11._o p._n 63._o machiavelli_n commend_v in_o romulus_n and_o numa_n set_v up_o religion_n by_o feign_a revelation_n second_o then_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n condemn_v as_o folly_n by_o supercilious_a and_o secular_a wise_a man_n 1_o cor._n 1.23_o have_v not_o appear_v so_o wise_a and_o powerful_a as_o it_o be_v vers_fw-la 18_o 19_o 20._o of_o the_o same_o chapter_n nor_o three_o have_v it_o have_v so_o many_o illustrious_a confirmation_n both_o by_o miracle_n and_o martyrdom_n as_o we_o find_v upon_o record_n both_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o be_v it_o not_o in_o his_o own_o choice_n to_o make_v his_o own_o pace_n for_o the_o proceed_n both_o of_o gospel_n and_o government_n if_o you_o will_v so_o confine_v christ_n to_o your_o way_n of_o work_v you_o make_v he_o dependent_a while_o you_o claim_v a_o independent_a privilege_n to_o yourself_o and_o for_o that_o you_o say_v for_o practice_n or_o precept_n to_o order_n and_o command_v we_o in_o what_o we_o obey_v we_o have_v both_o in_o the_o gospel_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o epistle_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o history_n of_o their_o act_n according_a to_o which_o the_o assembly_n have_v give_v up_o their_o advice_n to_o the_o parliament_n warrant_v for_o church_n government_n and_o so_o we_o hope_v it_o will_v come_v down_o from_o they_o by_o a_o parliamentary_a approbation_n and_o constitution_n for_o the_o establishment_n thereof_o throughout_o the_o whole_a kingdom_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n more_o ambitious_a or_o domineer_a then_o the_o independent_a nay_o let_v the_o indifferent_a reader_n observe_v and_o consider_v the_o difference_n and_o let_v he_o then_o resolve_v whether_o the_o presbyterian_a or_o independent_a be_v more_o affect_v to_o preeminence_n or_o more_o willing_a to_o come_v under_o rule_n and_o government_n first_o the_o presbyterian_o carnest_o desire_v the_o union_n whereto_o the_o apostle_n emphatical_o exhort_v the_o christian_a corinthian_n now_o i_o beseech_v you_o brethren_n by_o the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n that_o you_o all_o speak_v the_o same_o thing_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o division_n among_o you_o but_o that_o you_o be_v perfect_o join_v together_o in_o the_o same_o mind_n and_o in_o the_o same_o judgement_n 1_o cor._n 1.10_o second_o this_o union_n can_v be_v without_o a_o rule_n of_o consent_n the_o rule_n of_o consent_n can_v be_v of_o any_o force_n unless_o it_o have_v the_o power_n and_o obligation_n of_o a_o law_n this_o law_n require_v as_o well_o subordination_n as_o union_n and_o this_o subordination_n be_v agreeable_a not_o only_o to_o reason_n but_o to_o religion_n and_o scripture_n for_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o prophet_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o prophet_n 1_o cor._n 14.32_o three_o the_o presbyterian_o who_o yield_v to_o this_o subordination_n especial_o to_o the_o superior_a assembly_n not_o know_v and_o the_o most_o of_o they_o not_o expect_v to_o be_v member_n either_o of_o provincial_n or_o nationall_n assembly_n do_v all_o of_o they_o in_o their_o allowance_n of_o gradual_a appeal_n submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o consure_n of_o other_o which_o be_v a_o act_n not_o of_o dominion_n but_o of_o subjection_n but_o the_o independent_o will_v be_v as_o diffusive_a in_o their_o churchway_n and_o grow_v on_o from_o city_n to_o country_n from_o country_n to_o kingdom_n and_o will_v be_v like_o little_a king_n or_o free_a state_n in_o their_o own_o congregation_n and_o will_v admit_v of_o no_o subordination_n or_o submission_n to_o any_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n whatsoever_o though_o there_o be_v many_o case_n which_o reach_v beyond_o the_o limit_n of_o their_o covenant_v meeting_n to_o occasion_n of_o common_a concernment_n to_o many_o church_n yea_o some_o of_o they_o be_v so_o comprehensive_a as_o to_o belong_v to_o all_o the_o church_n of_o a_o kingdom_n which_o can_v neither_o be_v sufficient_o consider_v nor_o order_v for_o the_o general_a good_a without_o a_o more_o general_a convention_n and_o consultation_n of_o church_n governor_n the_o pope_n though_o hate_v and_o scorn_v by_o you_o as_o a_o antichristian_a caiaphas_n be_v a_o great_a and_o i_o may_v say_v the_o supreme_a independent_a in_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o his_o independency_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o he_o will_v be_v judge_v of_o none_o and_o herein_o true_o sr._n you_o symbolize_v too_o much_o with_o the_o papal_a ambition_n in_o that_o as_o much_o as_o you_o can_v you_o free_v yourselves_o from_o all_o ecclesiastical_a subjection_n and_o this_o be_v a_o chief_a part_n of_o his_o antichristian_a exaltation_n independency_n be_v rather_o antichristian_a than_o presbytery_n there_o be_v another_o part_n of_o the_o papal_a pride_n which_o be_v to_o require_v that_o all_o be_v subject_a unto_o he_o that_o he_o may_v censure_v and_o judge_v of_o all_o and_o if_o i_o shall_v strain_v your_o word_n as_o you_o sometime_o do_v i_o i_o shall_v say_v you_o be_v fly_v so_o high_a in_o your_o fancy_n as_o to_o be_v get_v above_o the_o high_a pitch_n of_o the_o pope_n mitre_n for_o he_o take_v not_o upon_o he_o to_o judge_v or_o give_v law_n to_o christ_n though_o to_o all_o christian_n as_o you_o do_v where_o you_o say_v that_o christ_n ought_v and_o be_v bind_v in_o the_o way_n of_o righteousness_n to_o have_v begin_v the_o practice_n and_o model_n to_o we_o over_o whole_a kingdom_n etc._n etc._n sect_n xxi_o mr._n saltm_n his_o mistake_n touch_v the_o build_n of_o the_o temple_n of_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o pattern_n of_o the_o temple_n and_o the_o pattern_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o gospel_n mr._n saltm_n confuse_o jumble_v they_o together_o smoke_n pag._n 52._o to_o the_o difference_n i_o make_v of_o the_o material_a and_o gospel_n pattern_v you_o say_v nothing_o and_o that_o be_v the_o only_a considerable_a it_o may_v be_v as_o you_o say_v of_o i_o you_o be_v best_a able_a to_o deal_v with_o the_o other_o light_n i_o confess_v i_o pass_v over_o somewhat_o in_o your_o quere_z more_z in_o your_o last_o book_n but_o nothing_o in_o either_o wherein_o i_o conceive_v there_o be_v any_o thing_n of_o weight_n or_o pertinencie_n to_o the_o cause_n in_o difference_n betwixt_o we_o yet_o to_o that_o difference_n 37._o difference_n sect._n 11._o p._n 37._o i_o say_v something_o in_o its_o proper_a place_n and_o 17._o and_o sect._n 5._o p._n 16_o 17._o refer_v you_o to_o another_o section_n where_o i_o observe_v more_o difference_n than_o you_o bring_v in_o and_o whether_o i_o owe_v you_o any_o thing_n for_o that_o particular_a the_o reader_n shall_v judge_v and_o if_o he_o find_v i_o be_v in_o your_o debt_n he_o shall_v see_v i_o shall_v make_v ready_a payment_n of_o what_o be_v behind_o and_o it_o may_v be_v by_o that_o time_n i_o have_v do_v with_o your_o objection_n you_o will_v think_v it_o better_o you_o have_v take_v no_o notice_n of_o this_o omission_n then_o