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A76885 A speech delivered by Sir Francis Bacon, in the lower House of Parliament quinto Iacobi, concerning the article of naturalization of the Scottish nation. Bacon, Francis, 1561-1626. 1641 (1641) Wing B326; Thomason E158_6; ESTC R20938 14,824 38

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resemblance with the transplanting or transferring of families for the tree we know by nature as soone as it is set in the better ground can fasten upon it and take nutriment from it and a sheep as soone as he gets into the better pasture what should let him to grase or feed But there belongeth more I take it to a family or particular person that shall remove from one Nation to another for if Master Speaker they have not stock meanes acquaintance and custome habitation trades countenance and the like I hope you doubt not but they will starve in the midst of the rich pasture and are farre enough from grazing at their pleasure and therefore in this point which is conjecturall Conjecturall experience experience is the best guide for the time past is a pattern of the time to come I think no man doubteth Master Speaker but his Majesties first coming in was the greatest spring-tide for the confluence and enterance of that Nation Now I would fain understand in these four yeeres space and the fulnesse and strength of the Court and Tide how many families of the Scotch men are planted in the Citties Burroughs and Townes of this Kingdom for I doe assure my selfe then more then some persons of quality about his Majesties person heere at Court and in London and some other inferiour persons that have a dependance upon them the returne and certificate if such a Survey should bee made would be of a number extreamely small I report mee to all your private knowledges of the places where you inhabite Now Master Speaker as I said Si in ligno viridi ita fit quid fiet in arido I am sure there will be no more such spring tides but you will tell me of a multitude of families of the Scottish nation in Polania and if they multiply in a Countrey so farre how much more at hand for that Master Speaker you must impute it of necessity to some speciall accident of time and prace that draws thē thether for you see plainly before your eys that in Geneva which is much neerer where in France they are invited with priviledges and with the very priviledge of naturalization yet no such number can bee found so as it cannot either bee neerenes of place or priviledge of person that is the cause But shall I tell you Master Speaker what I thinke In all the places of the world neere or farre of they will never take that course of life in this Kingdome which they content themselves with in Poland for we see ir to bee the nature of all men that will rather discover poverty abroad then at home There is never a gentleman that hath over reached himself in expences and thereby must abate his countenance but hee will rather travell and doe it abroad then at home and we know well they have good high stomacks and have ever stood in some tearmes of emulation and therfore they will never live heere except they can live in good fashion so as I assure you Master Speaker I am of opinion that the first which we now have to admit them will have like as that contention had between the Nobility and people of Rome for admitting of a Plebean Common-wealth whilst it was in passage it was very vehement and mightily stood upon and when the people had obtained it they never made any Plebean Consul not in 60 yeers after and so will this be for many yeers as I am perswaded rather a matter in opinion and reputation then in effect and this is the first answere that I give to this main inconvenience pretended of surcharge of people The second answere England not peopled to the full which I give to this objection is this I must have leave to doubt Master Speaker that this Realme of England is not peopled to the full for certain it is that the territories of France Italy Flanders and some part of Germany doe in equall space of ground beare and containe a farre greater quantity of people if they were mustered by the Poll neither can I see that this Kingdome is so much inferiour unto those forrain parts in fruitfulnesse as it is in population which makes mee conceive wee have not our full charge besides I do see manifestly amongst us the badges and tokens rather of scarcenesse then of presse of people as drowned grounds Commons Wastes and the like which is a plain demonstration that howsoever there may be an overswelling throng and presse of people here about London which is most in our eie yet the body of the Kingdome is but thin sowne with people and whosoever shal compare the ruines and decayes of ancient Towns in this Realme with the erectments and augmentations of new cannot but judge that this Realme hath been farre better peopled in former times it may be in the Heptarchy or otherwise generally the rule holdeth The smaller the State the greater the population Pro rato And whether this be true or no we neede not seeke further then to call to our remembrance how many of us serue heere in this place for desolate and decayed Burroughs Againe Mediterrane not Maritime Countries surcharged with people Master Speaker whosoever looketh into the principle of estate must hold that it is the Mediterrane Countries and not the Maritime which need to feare surcharge of people for all sea provinces and especially Islands have an other element besides the earth and soile for their sustentation what an infinite of people are and may bee sustained by fishing carriage by sea and merchandizing wherein I doe again discover that wee are not all prickt by the multitude of people for if we were it were not possible wee should relinquish and resigne such an infinite benefit of fishing to the Flemming as it is well knowne wee do and therefore I see that wee have wasts by Sea as well as by land which still is an infallible argument that our industry is not awakned to seeke maintenance to any our great charge or presse of people And lastly Master Speaker there was never any Kingdome in this World had I think so faire and happy means to issue and discharge them ultitude of their people as this Kingdom hath in regard of that desolate and wasted Kingdome of Ireland which being a countrey blessed with all most all the dowryes of nature as Rivers Havens Woods Quarryes good Soile and temperate climate and now at last blest under his Majesty also with obedience doth as it were continually call unto us for our Colonies and Plantations and so I conclude my second answere to this pretended inconvenience of surcharge of people The third answer Maister Speaker which I give is this I demande what is the worst effect that can follow of your surcharge of people look into it and you shall finde it none other then some honourable warre for the enlargement of their borders which finde themselves pent upon forraine parts with inconveniences which in