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A10341 A replye answering a defence of the sermon, preached at the consecration of the bishop of Bathe and Welles, by George Downame, Doctor of Divinitye In defence of an answere to the foresayd sermon imprinted anno 1609 Sheerwood, Rihcard, attributed name. 1614 (1614) STC 20620; ESTC S113712 509,992 580

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be_v persecute_v by_o the_o gentiles_n every_o body_n therefore_o know_v say_v i_o that_o the_o church_n in_o s._n johns_n time_n must_v needs_o consist_v of_o a_o very_a few_o in_o comparison_n of_o the_o rest_n and_o therefore_o neither_o be_v the_o city_n the_o church_n neither_o do_v the_o church_n contain_v the_o people_n thereof_o 2._o again_o whereas_o the_o refuter_fw-la add_v that_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n write_v of_o the_o say_a martyrdom_n of_o policarpus_fw-la intitle_v herself_o the_o church_n of_o god_n which_o be_v at_o smyrna_n &_o therefore_o ask_v whether_o a_o whole_a diocese_n or_o country_n of_o christian_n di●●●habite_v smyrna_n the_o d._n say_v it_o be_v a_o obi●ctim_n scarce_o worth_a the_o answer_n but_o yet_o vouchsafe_v it_o a_o frivolous_a answer_n uz._n that_o the_o whole_a di●cese_n be_v seat_v chief_o in_o the_o city_n as_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v in_o all_o the_o body_n be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o the_o head_n and_o that_o though_o by_o the_o 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i_o not_o say_v blasphemous_a comparison_n in_o compare_v a_o diocesan_n ch_z seat_v in_o the_o city_n to_o god_n sit_v in_o heaven_n how_o absurd_a be_v he_o in_o absurd_a the_o d._n comparison_n be_v more_o than_o unseemly_a &_o absurd_a compare_v the_o diocese_n to_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v in_o the_o head_n and_o in_o all_o the_o body_n beside_o for_o what_o shall_v the_o body_n be_v trow_v you_o if_o the_o whole_a diocese_n be_v the_o soul_n the_o city_n he_o say_v be_v the_o head_n the_o country_n parish_n belike_o be_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o member_n the_o city_n and_o country_n join_v together_o do_v make_v the_o diocese_n yet_o the_o diocese_n be_v not_o the_o body_n but_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o body_n hereunto_o i_o may_v add_v that_o which_o be_v object_v pag._n 55._o of_o the_o refuter_n answ_o from_o the_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n the_o epistle_n be_v direct_v to_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n in_o ephesus_n in_o smyrna_n etc._n etc._n and_o not_o of_o eph●sus_n the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n the_o church_n etc._n etc._n as_o if_o the_o whole_a city_n be_v the_o church_n the_o doctor_n answer_n pag._n 62_o be_v that_o although_o the_o whole_a city_n of_o ephesus_n meaning_n civitas_n be_v not_o the_o church_n until_o it_o be_v whole_o convert_v to_o christianity_n yet_o the_o whole_a city_n mean_v ●●bs_n be_v contain_v within_o the_o circuit_n of_o the_o church_n intend_v by_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v it_o material_a that_o the_o church_n be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v in_o ephesus_n see_v in_o urbe_fw-la the_o church_n be_v chief_o seat_v as_o be_v say_v before_o i_o suppose_v the_o refuter_fw-la be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o that_o difference_n which_o the_o learned_a hystorian_n put_v between_o vrbs_fw-la &_o civitas_fw-la vrbs_fw-la ut_fw-la m._n varro_n lib._n 1._o linguae_fw-la latinae_fw-la tradit_fw-la ab_fw-la orbe_fw-la &_o urno_fw-la quae_fw-la pars_fw-la est_fw-la aratri_fw-la deducitur_fw-la circum_fw-la dividebantur_fw-la enim_fw-la aratro_fw-la loca_fw-la extruendo_fw-la oppido_fw-la designata_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la ait_fw-la servius_n sulco_fw-la muri_fw-la designabantur_fw-la civitas_n autem_fw-la tame●si_fw-la pro_fw-la urbe_fw-la oppidove_n frequenter_a usurpatur_fw-la proprie_fw-la tamen_fw-la ipsa_fw-la est_fw-la civium_fw-la koinonia_fw-la et_fw-la societas_fw-la moribus_fw-la legibusque_fw-la institutis_fw-la gubernata_fw-la nam_fw-la et_fw-fr hi_o qui_fw-la passim_fw-la tractu_fw-la aliquo_fw-la habitant_fw-la ijsdem_fw-la legibus_fw-la et_fw-la institutis_fw-la usi_fw-la civitas_n dicuntur_fw-la caesari_n sic_fw-la habet_fw-la joach_n vadianus_n in_o epitome_n trium_fw-la terrae_fw-la partium_fw-la pag._n 34._o &_o 35._o impress_n tiguri_n anno_fw-la 1534._o but_o what_o use_n do_v the_o doctor_n make_v of_o this_o difference_n the_o whole_a city_n meaning_n civitas_n say_v he_o be_v not_o the_o church_n till_o it_o be_v whole_o convert_v to_o christianity_n well_o than_o it_o seem_v when_o he_o say_v the_o church_n be_v city_n he_o take_v not_o the_o word_n city_n for_o civitas_fw-la which_o chief_o note_v the_o people_n that_o live_v in_o a_o communion_n together_o he_o than_o acknowledge_v he_o take_v the_o word_n city_n for_o that_o which_o be_v call_v vrbs_fw-la the_o wall_n and_o howl_n within_o which_o the_o citizen_n for_o the_o great_a part_n be_v enclose_v if_o so_o he_o show_v himself_o too_o absurd_a to_o be_v confute_v with_o any_o other_o argument_n than_o such_o as_o be_v frame_v in_o bocardo_n if_o not_o we_o may_v then_o with_o good_a leave_n i_o hope_v conclude_v that_o see_v the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v neither_o vrbs_fw-la nor_o civitas_fw-la therefore_o it_o can_v at_o all_o be_v true_o say_v to_o be_v the_o city_n much_o less_o both_o city_n and_o country_n and_o to_o what_o use_v then_o serve_v if_o i_o may_v be_v so_o bold_a to_o ask_v once_o again_o that_o difference_n he_o yield_v between_o vrbs_fw-la &_o civitas_fw-la forsooth_o the_o whole_a city_n m●aning_v vrbs_fw-la be_v contain_v within_o the_o circuit_n of_o the_o church_n intend_v by_o the_o apostle_n well_o and_o may_v not_o the_o same_o be_v say_v of_o the_o whole_a city_n meaning_n civitas_fw-la else_o why_o do_v he_o tell_v we_o that_o when_o the_o apostle_n plant_v presbyter_n in_o every_o city_n they_o intend_v the_o conversion_n of_o the_o whole_a city_n and_o country_n by_o their_o ministry_n thus_o wise_o have_v the_o doctor_n distinguish_v between_o vrbs_fw-la &_o civitas_n that_o what_o he_o affirm_v or_o difference_n a_o distinction_n without_o any_o difference_n deni_v of_o the_o one_o the_o same_o in_o his_o understanding_n must_v be_v affirm_v or_o deny_v of_o the_o other_o as_o for_o that_o he_o add_v to_o show_v his_o understanding_n of_o the_o text_n sc_n that_o the_o church_n be_v seat_v not_o whole_o but_o chief_o in_o urbe_fw-la either_o beg_v the_o main_a question_n as_o before_o be_v note_v if_o he_o think_v there_o be_v some_o other_o church_n in_o the_o country_n refut_o the_o doct._n beg_v or_o else_o consenteh_a to_o his_o refut_o that_o be_v part_n of_o the_o same_o diocesan_n body_n or_o he_o dissent_v not_o from_o his_o refuter_fw-la if_o he_o think_v the_o christian_n inhabit_v some_o town_n and_o hamlett_n in_o the_o country_n do_v ordinary_o assemble_v with_o those_o of_o the_o city_n for_o the_o public_a work_n of_o god_n worship_n thus_o have_v we_o hear_v all_o that_o the_o doctor_n can_v say_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o 54._o sect._n 16._o add_v sect_n 8._o 〈◊〉_d 54._o assumption_n as_o he_o first_o deliver_v it_o when_o he_o say_v those_o church_n be_v great_a and_o ample_a city_n etc._n etc._n as_o for_o the_o change_n which_o he_o have_v now_o make_v choice_n of_o viz._n that_o they_o contain_v both_o the_o city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v he_o have_v nothing_o else_o in_o defence_n thereof_o than_o a_o naked_a repetition_n in_o a_o manner_n of_o that_o which_o be_v before_o 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asia_n by_o his_o estimation_n &_o therefore_o not_o in_o jonia_n wherein_o ephesus_n stand_v although_o many_o do_v there_o place_v it_o but_o in_o car●a_n as_o ●omy_n affirm_v to_o who_o opinion_n also_o joach_n vadianus_n ut_fw-la supra_fw-la in_o this_o point_n cleave_v now_o if_o saint_n luke_n do_v exclude_v both_o caria_n &_o phrygia_n from_o his_o asia_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o saint_n johns_n asia_n be_v of_o a_o large_a circuit_n in_o asmuch_o as_o it_o include_v laodicea_n which_o with_o ptolemy_n be_v a_o city_n of_o caria_n but_o more_o general_o be_v reckon_v within_o phrygia_n to_o come_v now_o at_o length_n to_o his_o refutation_n of_o that_o which_o be_v object_v d._n sect._n 22._o add_v pag._n 61._o of_o the_o d._n by_o his_o refuter_fw-la why_o our_o saviour_n write_v to_o the_o 7._o church_n shall_v not_o under_o they_o comprise_v all_o the_o church_n in_o asia_n the_o objection_n stand_v thus_o even_o there_o or_o near_o we_o find_v divers_a other_o church_n as_o thos●_n of_o colossa_n hierapolis_n and_o troas_n mention_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o let_v pass_v magnesia_n and_o trallis_n record_v in_o other_o writer_n which_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o any_o of_o these_o 7._o the_o d._n answer_v first_o touch_v the_o 3._o former_a that_o none_o of_o they_o be_v in_o asia_n proper_o so_o call_v whereof_o john_n speak_v because_o troas_n forsooth_o be_v the_o same_o with_o phrygia_n minor_fw-la and_o hierapolis_n and_o colossa_n be_v city_n of_o phrygia_n major_a why_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o the_o d._n who_o have_v peruse_v so_o many_o author_n both_o geographer_n &_o other_o shall_v be_v ignorant_a that_o troas_n be_v not_o always_o the_o name_n of_o a_o country_n or_o take_v for_o phrygia_n minor_fw-la but_o sometime_o the_o name_n of_o a_o city_n in_o asia_n call_v antigonie_n or_o alexandria_n or_o be_v he_o so_o unacquaynt_v with_o his_o refuters_n opinion_n concern_v the_o form_n &_o nature_n of_o visible_a chur._n that_o he_o 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john_n do_v follow_v the_o most_o usual_a understanding_n of_o those_o that_o give_v unto_o it_o a_o large_a circuit_n as_o appear_v in_o reckon_v laodicea_n a_o city_n of_o phrygia_n or_o caria_n within_o asia_n and_o therefore_o the_o church_n mention_v by_o the_o refuter_fw-la viz._n troas_n hierapolis_n and_o colosse_n be_v all_o within_o phrygia_n be_v enclose_v in_o saint_n johns_n asia_n but_o the_o d._n have_v some_o other_o evasion_n which_o can_v yield_v he_o the_o relief_n he_o expect_v it_o be_v record_v say_v he_o pag._n 61._o by_o eusebius_n in_o chron_n that_o in_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 66._o and_o 10._o of_o nero_n these_o 3._o city_n laodicea_n hierapolis_n and_o colosse_n be_v overthrow_v with_o earth_n quake_v and_o although_o laodicea_n flourish_v again_o in_o s._n johns_n time_n and_o hierapolis_n not_o long_o after_o yet_o of_o colosse_n as_o calvine_n observe_v that_o short_o after_o the_o epistle_n write_v to_o they_o that_o church_n with_o the_o rest_n 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