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every_o particular_a church_n or_o diocese_n but_o if_o we_o respect_v the_o divine_a law_n there_o be_v not_o more_o reason_n of_o one_o than_o another_o ergo_fw-la all_o the_o diocese_n of_o england_n may_v be_v govern_v without_o a_o bishop_n but_o m._n doctor_n will_v deny_v his_o mayor_n as_o it_o be_v father_v on_o he_o for_o he_o neither_o affirm_v nor_o deny_v that_o every_o diocese_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n only_o he_o say_v pag._n 375._o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_a that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n there_o must_v be_v a_o bishop_n in_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a church_n as_o that_o in_o general_a there_o must_v be_v bishop_n in_o the_o church_n &_o pag._n 376._o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n it_o be_v true_a sotus_n say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o diocese_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n but_o m._n doctor_n neither_o affirm_v it_o nor_o deny_v it_o second_o i_o answer_v that_o there_o be_v more_o reason_n and_o necessity_n of_o a_o bishop_n in_o a_o whole_a country_n or_o kingdom_n which_o be_v a_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n then_o in_o every_o particular_a diocese_n because_o one_o bishop_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n govern_v two_o diocese_n but_o not_o all_o france_n spain_n or_o england_n or_o any_o such_o notable_a part_n as_o i_o have_v show_v and_o one_o diocese_n may_v be_v assist_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o next_o diocese_n but_o not_o one_o great_a country_n by_o the_o bishop_n of_o another_o country_n as_o i_o have_v also_o prove_v 36._o by_o this_o m._n nicholas_n may_v gather_v a_o answer_n to_o that_o his_o question_n n._n 16._o whether_o that_o england_n &_o scotland_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la must_v also_o have_v a_o ordinary_a for_o if_o england_n &_o scotland_n be_v both_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n both_o aught_o to_o have_v by_o the_o divine_a law_n their_o proper_a bishop_n be_v he_o ordinary_a or_o delegate_v &_o when_o man_n demand_v any_o thing_n there_o be_v more_o reason_n to_o demand_v that_o which_o be_v ordinary_a they_o that_o which_o be_v extraordinary_a and_o if_o the_o pope_n think_v best_a to_o give_v a_o delegate_n as_o so_o he_o may_v supply_v england_n want_n so_o that_o be_v not_o the_o ordinary_a course_n observe_v in_o other_o church_n and_o so_o england_n may_v demand_v a_o ordinary_a and_o leave_v the_o rest_n to_o the_o chief_a pastors_n discretion_n who_o be_v to_o judge_n whether_o he_o shall_v give_v a_o ordinary_a or_o delegate_v &_o whether_o the_o divine_a law_n oblige_v to_o give_v unto_o a_o country_n a_o bishop_n in_o this_o or_o that_o circumstance_n 37._o out_o of_o all_o this_o i_o gather_v how_o unwilling_a m._n nicholas_n be_v to_o have_v a_o bishop_n i_o grant_v that_o he_o say_v pag._n 204._o that_o he_o will_v most_o willing_o spend_v his_o blood_n for_o the_o purchass_n of_o time_n suitable_a with_o the_o enjoy_n of_o a_o catholic_a bishop_n in_o england_n but_o what_o be_v that_o time_n which_o m._n nicholas_n deem_v suitable_a for_o the_o enjoy_n of_o a_o bishop_n will_v he_o have_v a_o time_n which_o the_o supreme_a pastor_n who_o office_n it_o be_v to_o give_v pastor_n to_o everien_n church_n think_v in_o his_o judgement_n suitable_a that_o time_n be_v already_o come_v will_v he_o have_v a_o time_n in_o which_o the_o country_n have_v man_n of_o its_o own_o in_o it_o to_o be_v bishop_n that_o time_n be_v also_o come_v for_o that_o two_o most_o worthy_a prelate_n have_v be_v think_v by_o the_o supreme_a pastor_n sit_v and_o worthy_a to_o be_v send_v the_o one_o after_o the_o other_o will_v he_o have_v a_o time_n in_o which_o there_o be_v not_o particular_a law_n enact_v against_o the_o bishop_n no_o confiscation_n of_o good_n no_o loss_n of_o liberty_n or_o life_n execute_v on_o they_o that_o receive_v confirmation_n of_o he_o that_o time_n also_o be_v come_v will_v he_o have_v england_n altogether_o catholic_a and_o no_o use_n of_o any_o other_o religion_n to_o be_v permit_v in_o it_o but_o catholic_a before_o he_o will_v have_v a_o bishop_n come_v if_o that_o time_n only_o be_v in_o m._n nicholas_n his_o opinion_n suitable_a the_o primative_a church_n live_v in_o no_o time_n suitable_a for_o a_o bishop_n and_o yet_o christ_n constitute_v his_o apostle_n bishop_n and_o they_o constitute_v other_o in_o the_o great_a rage_n and_o fury_n of_o persecution_n as_o m._n doctor_n have_v show_v in_o his_o 13._o chapter_n n._n 3._o and_o to_o say_v that_o a_o time_n of_o persecution_n be_v not_o suitable_a for_o a_o bishop_n be_v to_o say_v that_o when_o the_o enemy_n be_v in_o the_o field_n it_o be_v not_o a_o time_n suitable_a to_o have_v a_o general_n when_o the_o wolf_n be_v ready_a to_o set_v on_o the_o flock_n it_o be_v not_o a_o time_n suitable_a to_o have_v a_o pastor_n and_o so_o the_o time_n of_o the_o primative_a church_n in_o which_o the_o church_n 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they_o be_v notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n all_o have_v the_o like_a necessity_n and_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n of_o one_o which_o be_v of_o another_o and_o so_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o 14._o chapter_n n._n 2._o pag._n 376._o argue_v well_o from_o the_o like_a necessity_n in_o this_o manner_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n there_o must_v be_v particular_a bishop_n in_o the_o church_n to_o supply_v the_o necessity_n of_o particular_a church_n but_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n why_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o france_n for_o he_o speak_v especial_o of_o great_a particular_a church_n which_o be_v notable_a part_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v be_v govern_v by_o a_o bishop_n or_o bishop_n more_o or_o few_o according_a to_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o country_n rather_o than_o the_o church_n of_o spain_n or_o the_o church_n of_o england_n ergo_fw-la france_n spain_n and_o england_n and_o all_o other_o such_o particular_a church_n of_o extent_n must_v be_v govern_v 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