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A63079 A testimony for God's everlasting truth as it hath been learned of and in Jesus testifying against such as through unbelief have departed from, or been disobedient to the spirit that conuinces the world of sin : among whom R.C. hath appeared with his many things, to oppose and withstand the one thing, the spirit of life, that sets free from sin and death, which is the truth which the people call Quakers have and do testifie to and of / R.T. R. T. (Rebecca Travers), 1609-1688. 1669 (1669) Wing T2062; ESTC R31972 39,797 48

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Then thou goest on to ask three Questions First Was the Light in mans Conscience that personal appearance that John bore witness to Second Was the Light in mans Conscience that word of God that was God by which all things were made that were made Third Was the Light in Conscience personally to be seen by the firmental eye to be felt with the outward hand And from these thy own words thou drawest a conclusion that if the Light of Conscience be not to be understood in these capcities our Doctrine is false Though thou hast brought no more reason to prove it then if thou hadst said I would have it so for as to the Apostles words we testifie and have learned in that Spirit which the carnal man could never discern nor the things thereof but the Apostle answers himself and hath declared of whom he testified by whom all things were made and that this was the true Light that enlightneth every man that cometh into the World and it was the Christ of God which he bore Testimony to so instead of proving us 〈◊〉 error that confess Christ the Light in every Conscience thou bringst thy self under the Plagues threatned for adding to the Scriptures For where did ever the Apostle in that place or any other speak of personal and firmental as thou dost and conclude all false that are not of thy mind And to answer thee further the Apostle did preach and testifie of Christ and as he taught him so is he learned in Light or Spirit is not this in the Conscience How wouldst thou have Christ seen felt and handled how is Christ with his people to the end of the World according to his Promise and how is he in them that was with them Is it to be seen firmental as thou callest though no other did the Apostle testifie of then he that became flesh and dwelt amongst us yet no more did they know him after the Flesh but after the Spirit but thou and such as thou who in your carnal minds would comprehend spiritual things bring forth your carnal apprehensions and having no knowledg but what you have sensually know neither Christ's Flesh nor glorious Body but that which could be pierced wounded and crucified all Image-makers are still oppressing for he is still slayn in spiritual Egypt where thou art and though thou knowest we that thou seemest to strike at did and do confess to him and no other that made a good confession before Pilate of whom John bear witness to be the Light of the World and this is true and they are found Liars before God that would set up any thing to be believed in but he that in Spirit is revealed for thousands of those that saw his personal appearance at Jerusalem knew him not to be the Christ nay by Spirit then was he to be learned as thou may read where Peter confesseth him and Christ saith Flesh and Blood hath not revealed this to thee but the Spirit of my Father and against this art thou fighting and those that are lead thereby for by Light and Spirit have we learned Christ and so teach him and this is he which is testified of that is the Eternal Gift of God and he that is sent of God whom to know is Eternal Life but of this are they all ignorant that call the Light in Conscience a formed thing and the Spirit of the humane earthly Soul but their ignorance of the great Power of God is not to be marvelled at that says The Light and Spirit is of the humane earthly soul and so would make all believe that the souls of men and women were no other then the Dogs or Cats and Beasts that must perish for what is of the Farth must to the Earth hast thou not read God breathed into man and he became a living Soul and thou callest this Human or Earthly needs then must they stumble and fall that walk in the dark as thou and all do that would comprehend the Light to dispute again●t but over thee and all vain Image-makers it shall rise that with your dark Images and inventions have filled the World with Idolatry Profainness and Athism and what doctrine more then thine doth it that preachest the Soul Human and Creaturely and the Light formed of it so neither Soul nor Light Immortal Eternal but of the Earth a beastly doctrine which hath manifested the Teacher to know nothing but what he knows sensually yet thou goest on repeating what Christ did and suffered when manifest at Jerusalem and then sayest this manifests Christ is Formative and not a Defusive Principle this like thy former stuff which thou hast got in thy dark mind so in dark words expressest it what manner of Christ thou wouldst have people believe in all in the Light see but the Christ of God is he that filleth all things as the Scriptures testifie And then thou goest on to confess that the Light of conscience was in the Apostles and by this Peter confessed Christ to be the Son of God How hath Satan blinded thee that loves darkness better then Light that thou shouldst bring this Scripture that callest the Light the Spirit of the human Soul and Christ saith the Spirit of the Father revealed it in Peter and was not and is not Christ in the Father so whatever thou hast denied thou hast now proved Father Spirit and Son the Light in the Conscience for they were never divided or else thou must hold after thy former dark doctrine the Father and the Spirit are but the Spirit of the human Soul thus shall all they be snared that invent against the Truth which is the same yesterday to day and for ever and let them all be so confounded as thou art that devise against the Light saith my soul for thou sayest Peter by his Light in Conscience bares witness to Christ the Son of God and Christ saith not Flesh and blood but the Spirit of my Father revealed it and knowest thou not that God is one not divided I in the Father and the Father in me saith Christ and none ascends to Heaven but he that comes down from Heaven the Son of man in Heaven but this thou nor any that saith the Light is the spirit of the humane soul could ever see but who in the Light and Spirit learn him know he filleth all things even the same to whom Peter confessed blest for ever as saith the Apostle One God and Father of all who is above all and thorow all and in you all Ephes 4. 6. and this is he we testifie of that dwells in the Light in Conscience where thou confessest the Son of God is revealed and yet sayest the Light in Conscience is not Christ for he saith he is ascended far above all Heavens that he may fill all things and then goest on saying Now O man open thy eyes and see how dangerously thou standest that denies the Body of our Lord Jesus Christ in his Person
is the Light of men and this is the true Light which enlightens every man that comes into the World but thou and all that love darkness better then Light cannot comprehend the true Light and so despisest the Messengers thereof growing in envy against them as Cain against Abel that offered in Faith and had this Testimony that he pleased God but Cain in the unbelief grows angry and rises against his brother and so those who through the unbelief loving darkness better then Light rise up against the witnesses of Light if it be Apostles or G. F. or who ever as thou R. C. do'st who deny'st John's words that saith All was made by him the word Christ and thou plainly sayest it is not so for he did not make himself sayest thou so none will marvel thou canst not see nor receive G. F's testimony of Christ that cannot receive John's testimony yet no other Christ then he that gave life for all men hath G. F. testified of and we know he lives for ever and he and his mark no comprehender knows who was from eternity to eternity and though in the days of his humiliation his Judgments was taken from him who can declare his generation not thou which vainly asks what is become of him the Christ which the Scriptures declare of to which is answered he is every where and all things are upheld by him and in us of a truth that in his Light have believed But thou and all that in the imaginations of your own hearts are stiving against the Spirit of Grace cannot wait for or discern his appearance and therefore ask what is become of him And in thy eleventh page thou Queriest Whether Peters witness in his Conscience by which he confessed Christ to be the Son of God was not as much God and Christ as the Witness in you I Answer Christ told Peter It was the Spirit of his Father and Christ's answer hath and doth satisfie all that believe in him and that Father Son and Spirit are one which then did and now do speak in us that believe to the torment of all vain imaginers as art thou that asks if the witness in us be any other then that in Peter which Christ bears testimony to and that to him but thou sayst the witness is the Worm that shall never dyes This was the Spirit that called the Master of the house Belzebub that makes a slight thing of the Spirit of the Father as if less then God or Christ by which we that believe are saved and have fellowship with the Father and Son and all that are in the Light where the blood is witnessed which takes away all sin and of it and to this Spirit we witness that thou in thy first page sayst it is the Spirit of a man and the Worm that never dyes and that against our doctrine thou must testifie So repent of thy blasphemies if thou canst it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God but to draw to a conclusion of speaking much more to thy Queries the most being but repetitious of the like unprofitable stuff I shall a little take notice of what thou sayst to them thou callest thy old friends and if I have not fully answered yet I have given thee what is given unto me and am clear it shall stop thy wicked purpose and the Lord hath many valiant Souldiers for his Truth that shall yet smite every enemy that rises up against the Faith till your Chariot-wheels be struck off and you all swallowed in the deep who do what you can to stop Israel in his way but Hells strength shall not prevail against our Rock Christ revealed in Spirit receive it if thou canst and thy old Friends as thou callest them thou goest on to speak to whom thou sayest thou wouldst not have fall short of entring the Rest and then urges it by a lye but if they were dreaming of such a Rest as thou imagins and in thy first Book calls it a Dwelling place for God and his people and in these thy Queries the Worm that shall never dyes which it will be well for all to fall short but whom doest thou account thy Friends among us if it were such as knew thee when thou appears to be that thou wert not though they may pity thy soul yet can they do less then abominate thy hypocritical practises for so many years together that seemed to be and wert not and if to the plain hearted thou speakest that hates deceit and every evil way thou wilt not by thy feigned words get any entrance but if by the old Friend thou meanest those that once took the name and profession of Truth in their mouthes as much as thee or more and by their own unbelieving hearts and thine or such like Betrayers are drawn back such manifesting they have taken the name of the Lord in vain and the Lord will not hold them guiltless for they have and do grieve his holy Spirit And which of thy Rests thou hast preached to these I know not but their obedience to thy Earthly spirit they manifestly hold forth in their returning again to their vomit and as Swine to wallow in their former Mire the Ministers of the Light and Grace of God have called and do call out of the World and the Customs and Fashions thereof to him that was not nor is not of the World Christ Jesus but to whom hast thou called that hast brought to brodered Hair Gold and Pearl and boldness of Face instead of shamefaceness and modesty to cringings and bowings worshipping of Creatures instead of sobriety and fear and more might be spoken if convenient of those thou hast perverted from the Way of Truth and Honesty and these if they repent not will not fall short of thy Rest The Worm that shall never dye and then thou givest an exhortation to beware that no man deceive you for the Spirit foreseeing what would be in the latter dayes foretold a departure from the Faith and that men should rise up bringing in most damnable errors and denying the Lord that bought them and many shall follow their pernicious wayes of whom the Way of Truth shall be evil spoken of so thou drawest to an end as thou beginest for as thou wouldst have people believe that we worshipped and believed in such a god as thou imagin'st and then placest conclusions on thy own invented doctrine so the evil thou divisest must fall upon thy self for here thou brings a Scripture that there should be a falling from the Faith and wouldst place it on us now that the evil spoken of by the Apostle is and doth come unto all that deny the faith is true but is it we or R. C. that have denied the Faith let the wise in heart judge for the Faith which the Scriptures speak of by which the Saints did overcome the World but the Faith which R. C. hath preached hath carried back into the World
Spirit and no Body To this I cannot but answer who they are that deny Christ's Body or Ascension as in Scripture it is declared I know not for all that confess to the Light in Conscience testifie thereto but thou mayst well mistake others Doctrine that so forgets thy own as to say now having this demonstrated from Scripture of the Ascension of the Body of our Lord when there is not a word brought by thee in a page or two before of Scripture to prove it but that he Ascended into Glory and we in the Faith know it but for thy so stoutly affirming by Scriptures that thou hast no Scripture for it will appear unto all that have an eye to see but as Sorcery even as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses so thou withstands the Truth and those who through negligence to attend or disobedience to the Light have been overtaken with the Night have or may stumble at thy work of Darkness yet who have learned of the Light the Truth as it is in Jesus thou canst not turn aside For what manner of blind stuff doest thou bring forth as though thou wouldst make people believe thou hast Scripture against those that confess to the Light in Conscience but canst bring none against them and so brings for them and confesses the birth of their opinion is from the first of John so thou confessest they to whom thou opposest have Scripture to prove but thou art so far from having any to prove thy words and imaginations that thou wouldst if thou knew'st how deny the Scripture that thou mightest hide Light and Truth by thy imaginations thou sets up a fiction and accuses us of it for sayest thou where it is said of Christ not of Light of Conscience I would thou wert so honest as to speak true words and then thou wouldst confess that though for years thou hast watched for evil against us thou never heardst any amongst the Children of Light but declare what is spoken in the first of John was spoke of Christ and that by his own Light and Spirit was he to be learned as says the Scripture A man sent of God to bear Testimony to the Light did he bear Testimony to an other then Christ no all that have been or are sent of him testifie of the Light but they that run and are not sent strive against it as thou doest and bring the Scripture that sayes the Life of Christ is the Light of men and be it is that inlightneth every man that comes into the World and that the Scriptures are true none contends with us about that but that we understand not our own Doctrine and thence set up a fiction of our own invention doest thou think thy denying to contend with us about the Scriptures when all that can see do see thou doest contend will make any believe thy accusation that we do not understand our own Doctrine and so set up a fiction why hast not thou with thy great understanding that seems so wise in thy own eyes as to gainsay the Truth that is received and believed by thousands come forth and tell where this Light testified of by the Apostle is if not in the Conscience for thy fancy is contrary to the Apostle that appealed to that of God in every mans Conscience and to that was manifest but where the conscience is seared they see not nor feel not and being out of the Truth which is now where to be found but where God requires it in the inner parts and who are gone out to seek it abroad whatever they may think of their own Doctrines know nothing of the Truth but are found contenders against it and against the Scriptures which testifie of him that is the Christ of God to be in the Heart and in the Mouth that he dwels in Light and thou hast confessed in thy words though in darkness not knowing what thou sayest that in Conscience is Gods Habitation yet art contending that any should preach Christ the Light in the Conscience is he not in his dwelling place does not the Scripture say God dwels in Light and that God is in Christ and that he will gather all things unto him and is not Christ the Rest into which all that the Father hath given him must be gathered into him and be in him as saith Christ I in them and thou in me So thou hast proved Christ the Light in the Conscience when thou goest about to disprove it confessing the Light in the Conscience the Principle of Christ and his own Habitation and they his whom the Father gives him and Christ said I in them so the Scriptures prove that according to Scripture thou attest not but contrary thereto that sayest God hath made a formed Light for a Habitation of mans Rest Page 7. What new opinion art thou a crying up that art setting up another rest for Gods people then Christ what wouldst thou have them rest in a formed Light sayest thou God is Light saith the Scripture but no where that he was formed that gave form and being to all and another Light then that which gives Salvation did not the people of God ever seek or find to be a Rest but he that saves from sin and his Name is Jesus and in him thousands are come to know sure Salvation by the Light made manifest in Conscience and are kept thereby that they could no more believe thy formed light nor Doctrine thereof then in the Papists Eucharist which indeed are both Idols formed in one ground and the Scripture plentifully testifies against you both yet the Papist in their carnal understanding have a Scripture for their Idols but where canst thou get any word to make a cover for thy Image that sayest I give you to know that the Light in Conscience is but the spirit of the humane Soul and is creaturely what Scripture hast thou for the ground of thy Opinion So all that love the Light see thy ground is not from Scripture there not being a word from the first of Genesis to the last of the Revelation for this thy new Doctrines for a formed light made into a habitation for mans Rest and the Light of the Conscience but the spirit of the humane nature And so thou that in thy Title sayest thou wouldst attest by Scripture art teaching new Doctrine that thou hast no word in the Scripture for But to proceed in page 10. thou sayest our Doctrine is this That which makes manifest is Light and the Light is Christ and hast not thou in these words manifested thy self to be a Contender against Scripture as well as against us that in the Spirit that gave forth the Scripture witness and therefore to us doth it witness for are not those very words as thou sayest we say the words of the Apostle that it is Light that manifests so saith Christ I am the Light so thou contends with the People of the Lord for saying as the Apostle and Christ says
this Scripture that sat●h God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself and that Christ saith I am come a Light into the World seeming thereby to prove that Christ was begotten that day the holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and that in humanity or earthly and not by Deity as thou called it and all this thou sayest to prove Christ is not the Light in the Conscience and then brings a Scripture where Christ saith I am come a Light and that if he had not come they had had no sin so instead of proving thy humane earthly Doctrine the Scripture proves that the cause and ground of all sin from the entrance of transgression to this day is the not coming to or believing in the Light for here Christ condemns of Sin and convinceth of Sin because of unbelief in that which condemned them which was the Spirit or Light So thou hast brought Scriptures that Christ saith he is come a Light to prove thy Humane against the Light and it proves against thee and for us that testifie of the Light But thou sayest in another place Christ is not defusive that is I confess a word that is neither Scripture nor the Spirits Language but if thou meanest he is not within his people how doth this Scripture overthrow thee in this error as in others for the Light searcheth into the inner-parts as thou confessest and I am come a Light saith Christ so thou seest the Scripture manifests thy darkness and error so thou wouldst have been more covered if thou hadst brought no Scripture but hadst delivered thy Doctrine against Christ a Light in the Conscience and hadst brought thy Teacher J. B. to have proved it for so contrary to Scripture art thou that in thy very following words page 12. where Christ saith I am come a Light thou sayest You have it clear and out of doubt who it is that is the Saviour and the Lord Christ not the Light in Conscience but he that died and rose again this thou wouldst seem to prove by the former words where Christ saith I am come a Light into the World and if I had not come you had not had sin so that all whose eyes are not dark see thy weakness and that the Scriptures are for us that love the Lord Christ of whom the Scriptures declare that say he is a Light and this has enlightened every man and yet thou art offended at those that say he is in the Conscience though thou sayest Gods Habitation is there but the Light against which thou strivest will wear out and destroy all thy vain imaginations for it is everlasting and from Heaven and must prevail over thy humane earthly Image yet that man Christ Jesus all that learn of the Light in the Conscience know and confess unto and his Flesh is Meat indeed and his Blood is Drink indeed and the World one day shall be judged by him but this thou nor none that are in the Night striving against the Light know or believe so as a Thief in the night will he come on all such But thou goest on with the repetition of a Scripture out of the Hebrews of a high Priest after the order of Melchisedeck to make intercession for us but how contrary to thy purpose of proving thy humane Christ not to be begotten till conceived at Jerusalem to be the high Priest that makes intercession for all the wise in heart can see who have learned in the the Light that hath visited us from above what the order of Melchisedeck is no father no mother no beginning of dayes nor end of Life who lives forever to make intercession for all that comes to God by him and this is the Christ of God that thou and all the Despisers and Resisters of the Light are ignorant of and so come not to God by him that is without beginning of dayes or end of life but in the carnal comprehension would measure Heavenly things and so brings forth earthly imaginations and by this would come to God by your own devisings as Babels Builders of old Theeves and Robbers that leave the Door and for such he enterceeds not but for all that comes by him that is without beginning of dayes or end of life he lives to make intercession even for all that in Truth and Spirit Worship and by the Spirit of Truth are lead into all Truth such that have abiding in and testifie of that are come to the mystery of Faith held in the pure Conscience but this the Image-makers are ignorant of as thou that wouldst set up an invented Light of the humane Soul for a Habitation of Rest for God and those that God hath given to Christ in which thou hast bewrayed thy own ignorance of the Rest of God and his people which the obedient and profiting servants enter into even the joy of the Master even the Glory of the Father which was before the world was this is not from the Earrh nor of the Earth but before the Earth was and so the Light Spirit of the human Soul that thou settest up as created to be a Habitation for God and those that God will give to Christ will be thine thy disciples burthens in the day that you will most stand in need of Rest but to proceed thou goest on with thy own words and some Scriptures that may easily by all that can see come over thy darkness and is as though thy self hadst had a glimring of thy own darkness and wert afraid of the blowes or smitings due to thee and so to save thy head goest on in words as if thou meanest to undo all thou hadst done saying thou must not be traduced by those that trade in corrupted mens words to the hindring of the passage of the Truth but before I take notice of thy following words I have something to say to these who thou mean'st by traders in corrupted mens words I know not but some have bin constrained as I at this time not to hinder the passage of Truth but for Truths sake to bring forth the Truth over such like corrupt words and writings as thine are that the Truth may stand upon the head of deceit that turnes every way to save it self as thou doest in thy following words when after thou hast brought forth so many accusations against those that cry up the Light and borrow'd so many Scriptures with thy own private interpretations to make truth thy seeming falshood and to set up thy own imaginary light After all and much more to this purpose as if thou means thy self like the foolish woman to pull down thy own house thou beginnest to preach in words the same that in words and writings thou publickly hast so appeared against saying This writing is not to draw the mind forth from waiting within it self for the manifestation of God in it self for that which is to be known of God is to be revealed in man I answer if that which is to
assuredly that he is in us that saves from sin and his name is Jesus cannot but testifie against all Images and their makers for unto him alone is our eye that is from everlasting to everlasting that in the fulness of time took flesh upon him and dwelt amongst us and this is our Light our Life our Root Spirit and Power and shall wear out all created lights imagined internal roots and natures light with all R. C's and others imaginations who not being able to get from under the Righteous Judgments of God goes about to speak evil of the things he knoweth not and so the natural light and the spirit of a man the light of Conscience or what the carnal man can see and know being his own he brings forth and saith these are our opinions so in the Truth must all lyes and falshood be turned on the head of the lyar from whence they come and in Truth are we established more and more having no God but one and he everlasting and almighty who commanded Light tashine out of darkness and hath shined in our hearts to give us the Light of the knowledg of the Glory of himself in the face of Jesus Christ and this is that I had of the Lord to give forth as a testimony against R. C. his paper entituled God's Truth attested according to Scripture about 8. months since and about that time was it written but having the knowledg that a brother whom in the Lord I honour for his faithful continued service in and for God's Truth 's sake was answering of it I laid these my papers aside not knowing a use for them not looking on them as I know for seven months time but about three weeks since or thereabouts looking among my writings I lighted on them and had something as I was reading them in my heart that it must be published But not at that instant giving up clearly to it the next night or the next after the Lord visited me with a sore and dangerous Distemper of body and I being an ancient woman that have and do wait for my change received it as a Messenger for my removal out of this Tabernacle of clay and not at all grievous unto me having by obedience to and by Faith in the Light obtained redemption out of that which must come to an end and an entrance into the Life and Kingdom that shall never have end so waiting quietly on my weak bed for the revelation of his will whom I serve in my spirit day and night what his will and pleasure was to do with me for I have learned that its better to live to God then to have a life in this World and whilst I thus waited my sleep being short I had in them several sights of somthing I was to suffer and do in this present World among which a sight of a late work of R. C. in which he would bespatter the servant or servants of the Lord and the morning after this Vision one came in and related to me that R. C. had sent his Queries out to G. F. and his ministers but G. F's life is where the evil one nor any of his ministers can come sent of God Blest and a Blessing to the Generation of the Righteous Then the Lord clear'd it to me that what I had writ or should farther be given in unto me as to or of R. C. to give forth and then an assurance I had of being healed of my weakness and declared it to one Friend that the Lord had somthing more for me to do ere I went hence if but this in bearing testimony against this Instrument of the evil one I shall lye down in peace for I speak the truth I lye not the Lord in a Vision by night afore ever I saw R. C. in the outward shewed me him and his dwelling and family in the night season and that he should be a Troubler of the House of God and cause his people to suffer and I have seen and traced him in his work and am well acquainted with his outside love feigning whereby he hath deceived some simple in his pretended singularity and elocution of his own doctrine way and though he long walked with us yet never came to the knowledg of the Truth and the old bottle being unbroken such as he had hath he brings forth of it and has by cunning led some silly ones captive by perverting the good way of God yea so prosperous has he been in his cursed practice among those that were willing again to imbrace this present world that he has perverted whole families that were called with the high and heavenly Call but never come to the election and so have been deceived and are found such as have taken the name of God in vain and are not nor shall not be held guiltless and though they have or may make merry over the slain perverters and perverted from the good way of the Lord yet their Condemnation slumbers not and the Lord hath and doth behold their wicked works that having betrayed the Truth in themselves would tempt others to believe a lye as if we were like unto themselvs looked for Salvation by another way then by Christ Jesus the Son of God so that none may believe a lye is this sent abroad that he and he only of whom the Scriptures declare is our Salvation and there is not another way to God and what is recorded of him and by him in the Scriptures of Truth from the first of Genesis to the last of the Revelation knowing that they were given forth as holy men were moved of the holy Ghost not of a private interpretation for the unlearned of this Spirit have and do interpret to their own destruction for none have seen God at any time but the only begotten and they to whom he reveals him and by spirit only was and is made manifest and that a measure of this is given to every one to profit withal the Scriptures bear witness and this and no other is their Principle that are called Quakers and by Faith we have profited dwelling in this Light and Spirit know the blood of Jesus which clenseth from all sin and gives us fellowship with the Father and Son in the measure of this Spirit that hath filled our hearts with love and good will unto all and so with the hazard of all this World hath through sufferings accusations and bad reports we pass sounding forth the good-will of God unto every one that he hath given a measure of his own Spirit to profit withal and they that will not hearken unto it will not believe though one from the dead should be sent unto them this is that which was given unto me to be sent forth as an answer and to come over the imagined doctrines of R. C. in his first paper that is called the Truth at tested according to Scripture but is found contrary to Scripture
‖ Know the Tree by the Fruit they that in measure were redeemed out of it having again imbraced this present World and they are such as deny the Lord that bought them even such as the Apostle Jude speaks of that like the first Angels that kept not their first state and likewise that kept not their Habitations but despises Dominion and speaks evil of Dignities so these speak evil of those things they know not but what they naturally knows as bruit Beasts now is not this R. C. and his Disciples that have risen up against the Dignities that are from above running into the way of Cain and perishing in the gainsaying of Corah has not his envy made it manifest O forget not for as it was spoken it is come to pass the Earth hath swollowed up many of you and none shall escape that divise against the Worship in Truth and Spirit and sets up a formed Light and natural Light to be the dwelling of God and his people that he has given to Jesus Christ So thou art manifested to know nothing but what thou knowest naturally as a bruit Beast and so appointest a natural rest for those that believe thy doctrine and warns thy old Friends not to fall short of it for it seems thou knowest not another then what thou knowest naturally but they who are come to the Law of the Spirit of Grace that sets free from sin and death know there is a Rest prepared for the people of God and an entrance thereinto many have and do witness and are set down in heavenly Places with Christ Jesus and this Rest and Glory was before the World was not a formed but that which Christ testifies of he had with the Father before the World was and this shall abide when all thy imaginations shall cease and thy formed Rest fail thee O how restless then shalt thou be when thy hope shall perish but our hope standing in him that is without beginning of dayes or end of life we shall never be ashamed and all that have this hope purifie themselves as God is pure So to thy imagined Rest thou art left where thy trouble and torment will be increased though thou and those deceived by thee and their own evil hearts have rejoyced in iniquity and if any by disobedience to or unbelieving in the Light have been overtaken with evil or run into the pollutions of this World this you Backsliders have gotten to strengthen you in your envy and back-drawing though your own appearance manifests you are one with them that have forsaken the good Way of God and the precious Truth to return to the vanities and customs of this present World denying his blood that hath calld out of the World and the Judgments of him that judgeth in Righteousness you shall not escape but as one shall you all be judged which have dispised the Spirit of Grace or have turned from it into wantonness so your portion shall be one from first to last that have left the good way of God and profained the Name of that Power and Life in which we that believe have and do know the fulfilling of the promise and are become partakers of the Divine Nature and born again thereof and thereby to inherit Life and immortality and an entrance into the Kingdom which all you are shut out of and have no part in And know to the increase of your torment that have writ against the Light thousands in faithfulness thereto are kept out of the pollutions yea and love of this World and witness redemption out of all that which must come to an end and to us are daily added and shall be added all that shall he saved we have not believed a Lye but the Truth and it is stronger then all and shall wear out your Envy and shall overcome all your invented Images and Mischiefs that you have divised against the Lord and his Anointed for the expectations of the Righteous in all generations is come and who through the regeneration have passed are sat down on Thrones and do and shall judge the Tribes of Israel but our reward you cannot see nor pertake of who have been unfaithful to him that called you and so never came to the Election but have betrayed it as faras it lay in you and have grieved many little ones and better had it been for some of you that you had never been born or that a Milstone had been hung about your necks and you thrown into the bottom of the Sea then a wrought the work of evil against the Lord and his Truth which he will more and more raise up and increase against and over all the strength of Hell and they and they only are thy Friends R. C. that in plainness warns thee of the wrath to come which shall overtake thee and all that harden their hearts and stop their ears against that which somtimes pricks them though they kicks against it and some that are stout-hearted shall confess unto when their Joy and Hope shall come to an end but the Lovers and Obeyers of the true Light have Peace and Joy in that which is endless and everlasting therefore the evil purposes and accusations and threats of those that disobey the Gospel cannot disturb nor make us afraid So we would that all men with us that believe in the Light might come to the knowledg of God and be saved but who hate the Light abide in darkness and brings forth confusion as R. C. hath done and there I leave him only Query of him as followeth I. IF the Light and Witness thou sayest the Quakers declares of the worm that will never dies then where is the Rest thou said'st before that God had made or created for his People in the Light in or of the Conscience answer II. Do'st thou imagine the Worm that never dies and the Rest to be both one answer if thou canst III. And I query since thou hast given so many names to the Light in or of the Conscience for it seems thou knowest not which saying It is the Dwelling of God and sometimes a formed Light and sometimes a Rest for the People of God and sometimes Natures Light and the Spirit of a man and the Worm that shall never dye I query if the spirit of a man and natures light be a Dwelling and Rest for God and his People that he hath given to Christ as thou hast said prove if thou canst by Scripture IV. I query of thee what the Conscience is of whose light in or of thou hast brought forth so many strange Images and though thou hast not brought one Scripture for thy many names of the Light in or of the Conscience what is Conscience declare if thou canst V. I query if thou canst bring any Scripture for proving God's Dwelling and his people in the Light of the humane Soul or that the spirit of man is the Rest or that the Rest and the Worm that never dyes
be the Light of or in the Conscience as thou affirmest Answer if thou canst VI. Query Was it not the true Christ of which John speaks he was slain in the great Street spiritually called Egypt and Sodom and is he slain in that Person that was visible at Jerusalem or who or where Answer if thou canst VII I query John saith he that is born of God sins not how should he for the Seed of God abides in him is that Seed Christ in his Person Answer for the Apostle Paul saith he speaks not of Seeds many but the one Seed Christ VIII Query And did this promised Seed Christ never break the Serpent's head but in the Person which was made manifest at Jerusalem and if he did where and how answer IX Query Whether it was the Person at Jerusalem that came down from Heaven and was the Son of man in heaven that could only ascend to Heaven or what Answer X. Query And whether that Talent taken from the unprofitable Servant and given to another was the Worm that never dies or a formative Light or the spirit of the earthly humane Soul or the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil as E. A. talks of or what Answer if thou canst XI Query Whether doth the Son of God abide with his to the end of the World is it in Light or in Person Answer XII Query Whether Christ who told his Disciples he that was with them would be in them whether he hath fulfilled his Promise for he cannot lye and if in them is it in Person or by Light Answer plainly XIII Query Whether the Unction or Anointing which the Apostles said should teach them all things was Christ in his Person without or Christ in them answer XIV Query Christ told those that followed him except they eat his Flesh and drink his Blood they had no life in him So I query whether it was that Person they were to eat and drink or what if thou canst answer XV. Christ saith he that eats my Flesh and drinks my Blood hath Eternal Life now I query if they eat that Person or who they are that have Eternal Life answer if thou canst XVI Christ saith he that eats my Flesh and drinks my Blood dwelleth in me and I in him now I query if this dwelling be in Person or in Light answer plainly XVII Query Whether the Accuser of the Brethren that was to be cast down from Heaven was the spirit of a man or the light of nature or the Worm that shall never dye or the Habitation and Dwelling Place for God and his people since in thy writings thou mak'st all these one Answer plainly Several Lyes in R. C 's Second Page 1. THat we say Christ is only an Example These are but a few of thy many false Accusations 2 That we despise his Flesh and trample his Blood under our feet 3. That we set up the creaturely light in Conscience for Christ and his Light 4. That we deny him to be the Christ that in his Person was an Offering for Sin 5. That we deny Christ in Heaven 6. In thy 16th page that our Teachers teach entrance into Rest by Works of obedience to the Light of Nature These things thou never heard'st nor read'st by any of those thou call'st our Preachers So thou publishest to the World that we hold that which thou think'st and so declar'st thy self a false Accuser Postscript THis rose in my heart for your sakes that would know the will of God to do it and are rather waiting to have him work your works in you then labour in your own imaginations to know and comprehend the incomprehensible God in your minds where all Images and idolatrous Worships have been framed and brought forth yea from the same ground all wickedness and blasphemies from the first transgression to this day by all that went out from God and then as Cain would offer of their own and so have his generation all along to this day those born of the Flesh warred against those born of the Spirit who worshipped in the Faith as we do confessing to know nothing of God and his everlasting Truth but as we are taught and led of this Spirit and in this know both Father and Son and receive power thereby to become the Sons and Daughters of God and cannot but declare of his Glory and Good will who hath sent us that according to the measure received of him we may Glorifie him of whose Grace we have received Grace for Grace and know his continued Good will even to all and every one that believes in his Light and Word of which the Scriptures testifie both by Prophets and Apostles as it is written Amos 4. 13. 1 John 1. 1. Heb. 4. 12. and of another Light and Word did we never Write or Declare then of Jesus the First and the Last which they that have erred from are offering despite to us as R. C. in his Practice and Writing doth who having walked some Years amongst us as if he had been one of us yet not bowing to nor believing in the true Light where Power is received grew in Envy against those that were in it by which he and such like have been given up to a Reprobate Minde to change the Invisible God into the likeness of Corruptible Things as R. C. hath in his first and last as may be seen and read in his vain Imaginations of God and Christ uttering his Lyes and Blasphemies against God and his Tabernacle some of which I have in my foregoing lines recited that all may see he is contrary to Scriptures and Truth and to us that no more any may be deceived by him Rebecca Traverse PAge 6. l. 4. for were read was l. 8. for saith thou read say'st thou Pag. 13. l. 4. for thou comest to be read thou comest to see P. 15. l. 14. for and they his read and theirs P. 19. l. 16. blot out too and. P. 23. l. 35. for thy seeming read seem THE END