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A85229 Conscience satisfied. That there is no warrant for the armes now taken up by subjects. By way of reply unto severall answers made to a treatise formerly published for the resolving of conscience upon the case. Especially unto that which is entituled A fuller answer. By H. Ferne, D.D. &c. Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1643 (1643) Wing F791; Thomason E97_7; ESTC R212790 78,496 95

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