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A02762 The burning bush not consumed wherein (either vnder all deepe sense of wrath; or hardnesse of heart, one may iudge, whether he be the childe of God, or not, &c. Chiefly receyuing satisfaction concerning the sinne against the Holy Ghost. Perused by I.D. and diuers other diuines. Hart, John, D.D.; Dyke, Jeremiah, 1584-1639, attributed name. 1616 (1616) STC 12891; ESTC S103842 61,708 194

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which because as he testifieth it was not done wittingly he was receiued into mercy because hee did it ignorantly But this sinne against the holy Ghost is a blasphemy exceeding wicked surpassing his because it is done with extreame despite against a manifest conuincing light 3. It is called a sinne which neuer shall be forgiuen not from the nature of the sinne as if there could bee any surpassing Gods mercy for a finite creature is not able to commit that sinne which an infinit God in mercy is not more able to pardon but it is saide to be irremissible because there is no mercy appointed for it because there is to repentance to be giuen to such a one and such a one shall neuer beg for mercy Yea I may further adde that the fury of such a one who committeth this sinne is so great against Christ that suppose he might haue mercy by repentance yet hee would not haue it 4. It is called a falling away or an apostasie because it is not only a simple Apostasie of a part or for a time nor yet an Epilepsie or a Spirit of slumber but also a totall finall Apostasie 5. It is called a sin against conscience and knowledge with great despight against the spirit of grace there is no man but hee sinneth against knowledge conscience So these Pillars of the Church Peter and Dauid before him sinned with many more Yet all without despight therefore take away despight malice and extreame despight and so long there will be no sinne against the holy Ghost Lastly it is called a sinne vnto death because all sorts of death doe follow it corporall and spirituall first and second temporall and eternall Schol. Where doth this greatest sinne chiefely make residence in these who commit the same Minist In the heart and minde Sch. How may it be iudged of there Minist By sixe properties or effects three in the minde and three in the heart Schol. Declare which be they Minist In the minde it is done against all sorts of light 1. Against the generall light of all the powers of the mind 2. Against the particular speciall light of the conscience 3. Against the spirituall light that light of the spirit word and grace Secondly in the heart 1. It must bee done willingly with a full consent as the Apostle speaketh For if wee sinne willingly c. 2. There must be malice in it as ver 29. where such a one is brought in despiting the spirit of grace c. 3. There must be the extreamitie of malice in the same because such a one treadeth vnder foot the Son of God and trampleth vnder the blood of the New Testament as if it were dogs blood crucifying Christ vnto himselfe and making a mock of him all which are actions of despite and extreame desperate malice Schol. What principall qualitie must he needs be endowed with who can commit this sinne Mini. He must haue a great light and knowledge for then it is properly said to be committed when a mans illumination is so great that hee cannot bee ignorant though he would what he doth and yet for all this will wittingly and willingly of a desperate malice oppugne impugne Christ and his Truth more and more persecuting the same with finall obstinacy to that end onely to withstand despit him so that then they become of a diuellish nature or rather very diuels for still the further one wadeth into this sinne vntill the consummation thereof the more hee partakes both of the knowledge and malice of the diuell As the Pharises c. Of all others the worst for some there were who knew Christ in his cratch some sucking his mother very yong some nailed on the crosse others againe could not know him no not in the greatest light and glory of his miracles A 3. sort he had to doe with who knew him clearely by the light of the spirit and of his wonderful works yet malitiously spake and did against their knowledge blaspheme scoffe and mocke the Sonne of God and these were the Pharises whom falling into this blasphemy against the holy Spirit Christ reprooueth and threatneth Schol. To how many sorts of people is it incident to commit this sinne Minister As I take it to two sorts onely Schol. Which be they Minister First such who hauing giuen their names vnto Christ taking vpon them a profession of him and his truth yet in the time of tentation doe make defection continuing in the same vntill they fall into an vniuersall Apostasie so perfecting this sinne 2. There hath beene an other sort who knewe the Truth clearly by a generall speciall spirituall conuincing light nor taking vppon them the profession therof nor the names of Christians who not-withstanding that they were indued with a great light of the Truth yet did with all theyr might in great malice impugne the same persecuting with great obstinacie Christ and his members such were the Pharisies Of the first sort who made defection wee read of Alexander the coppersmith Iultan the Apostate Porphyrie c. Of the other as I haue saide were the Pharisies For they knew that an vncleane spirit coulde not worke a true Miracle seeing euery true Miracle must bee wrought by an infinite not bounded power the whole power of Hell beeing limited which is onely of God therefore to ascribe such Miraculous works to Belzebub an vncleane spirit derogating the glory of the Sonne of God and taking away the fruites and efficacy of the Spirit was in them as vilde and pernicious a blasphemie as could bee Since all the diuels in hell their power beeing ioyned are not able to worke one true miracle for by them Christ was declared to bee the Almighty God manifested in our flesh Iustly then were they condemned of blasphemy against the holy Spirit because their sinne had in it no infirmity but was altogether of obstinate setled well-aduised malice whence from them this sinne hath the name of blasphemie as from the first sort of Professours who haue made defection it is called Apostasie Schol. What doe you call or how doe you define this Apostasie from the trueth Min. It is not an Apostasie from a naturall morall or ciuill trueth from a trueth in these outward things for which men so striue but it is an Apostasie from a supernaturall trueth from a trueth concerning our euerlasting saluation and the liuely faith in Christ Iesus 2. It is not onely a particular Apostasie from any piece or parcell of this Diuine trueth but it is a generall Apostasie from the whole word of his trueth which wee call the Gospell and consequently a manifest defection from the liuing God who in Christ Iesus was manifested in our nature Neither is it a partiall defection with a part of the soule onely with the minde or heart onely but it is a totall defection of the whole soule yea not only of the whole soule but also of the
whole man both soule and body 3. It is a finall defection a defection without recouerie such an Apostasie as Heb. 6. is called a falling away so that whosoeuer falleth truly into this sin falleth away without recouery yet men doe not come vnto this vniuersall Apostasie all at once but by little and little and processe of time for first they chase away and banish their whole light they waft make shipwracke of conscience they desperately harden their whole hearts vntill they become as it were incarnate diuels Sathanized in a wonderfull manner vntill they match Beelzebub himselfe in their desperate despite and malice so that there is no sinne which maketh a man so spitefully to detest Christ as this sinne yea with such extreame hatred that although he might hee will receiue no benefit of his Propitiatorie and Expiatorie sacrifice Scho. What is the cause that this sinne is so seuerely punished Mini. Amongst other causes because it is so free of infirmity suddaine fits and passions which other sins are not free of and so full of desperate malitious well-aduised malice scraping forth all light banishing all conscience fighting against the heauens so farre that because it cannot attaine vnto Christ who now in Heauen sitteth at the right hand of the Father in all glory it vndertaketh to bee reuenged vppon his true members the militant Church vpon earth which so farre as it can it persecuteth oppresseth and by all meanes rooteth out so that it is iust with God in his righteous iudgement to haue decreed neuer to giue repentance vnto the same Schol. By what steppes or degrees doeth this sinne ascend to the height of impiety Min. By foure steps it ascendes or rather descends towards Hell 1. It maketh a man doe actions against knowledge and conscience and that without infirmity vsuall in other sinnes falling from the Faith of Christ Next it maketh them to goe on forward in the same continually vntill they make their partiall defection a Totall their particular a generall and their generall a finall Apostasie Then further it maketh a man diuellish malicious despitefull to grow in malice against Christ and his members more and more Lastly if neere finished it bee the sinne against the Holy-Ghost indeede It maketh a man violently breake foorth in all sorts or fearefull and terrible persecutions in all kinde of blasphemies and grosse visible actuall sinnes all murthers burnings oppressions Witcherafts Sorceries Exterpations finally and what not to that end onely that it may resist oppose and despight and fight against the power effect graces and conuincing light of the Spirit Scholler May not one who in GODS sight and decree is chosen vnto life seeme to beginne to fall into this sinne and yet bee called backe both from preceeding therein and finishing the same Minister As I take it he may for wee know Manasseh the Sonne of good Hezekiah King of Iuday ruling in Ierusalem the place of Gods glory and worship in the midst of a glorious Priesthood many hundred yeeres olde whereof he could not be ignorant did notwithstanding abhominably sinne and seeme to goe on in the finishing of this sinne for a long time ouerturning and extinguishing to his power Gods worship building againe those high places which his Father had cast downe and abolished making a Groue and worshipping the whole hoast of heauen building Altars contrarie to Gods commandement in the house of the Lord and in the two vtter Courts thereof for the whole hoast of heauen causing his Sonnes to passe through the fire giuing himselfe to witchcraft and sorcerie to vse familiar Spirits and Southsayers setting vp the Image of his Groue in the house of the Lord filling and causing Ierusalem to swimme from corner to corner with innocent blood finally exceeding those exceedings sinnes of the Amorites yet no cast-away but at length proued to be the child of GOD for all this Iosephus also thus writeth of him Hee was so impudent that hee spared not to pollute the very Temple of God the Citie and the whole Countrey for making his entry in despite of God he slew afterwards all those who were vertuous men amongst the Hebrewes and though hee had no want of Prophets yet so it is that he killed euery day some so that Ierusalem was ouerflowne with blood c. Thus farre wee see one went and was by the mercy of GOD called backe againe Wherefore no poore Christian howsoeuer sinfull not comming neere the sinnes of Manasseh ought not to thinke hee hath committed this sinne yet is it good for all to flye all sinnes chiefely those done with deliberation against light knowledge and conscience for wee know the further that euen Peter himselfe went in Caiaphas Hall hee swore and forswore denying Christ so much the more but it was a great mercy to be called backe againe for which let all in their feares wish and pray Schol. What in the meane time must comfort vphold poore fearefull soules who imagine to haue committed this sin therefore forsaking all meanes Minist In my iudgement a better information of their iudgements is of great consequence to helpe to sustaine them for though wee yeeld for a while to all they affirme yet if they say that they could wish that they had not so sinned certainely then they haue not thus sinned or if they feare to bee or fall into this sinne they shall surely neuer commit this sinne Further such persons must bee demaunded of whether they be come vnto that despite against Christ that they would trample vpon his blood vs vpon the blood of a dogge whether their impious blasphemie be such that with the Pharisies they doe call him Belzebub whether those forgoing propertie of this sinne haue beene in them viz. a touched heart a taste of the powers of the word of trueth a taste of the powers of the world to come to bee partaker of the Spirit whence all such who affirme that their former actions and seeming graces haue onely bin hypocriticall lip-labor are excluded from possibility to haue committed this sinne whether they haue fallen quite away from their religion whether they haue renounced their faith in Christ Whether they haue impugned oppressed the knowne trueth yet persisting therein with resolution still to goe on therein Whether they haue fallen against knowledge and conscience whether there bee no infirmitie in their falls what long time it is since they haue so sinned whether or not as yet they may bee reclaimed Whether now they obstinately persecute Christ in all his members so farre as they are able Whether they runne not with a high hand in all manner of grosse actuall sinnes and rebellions Whether their wickednes be such that vnto their power they draw others into the same excesse of riot with them Whether their disease hath bin and is onely in blasphemies of the minde and then it is not nor so long can bee this great sinne which bursteth forth as is prooued in
testifieth when hee saith Thy hand was heauy vpon mee day and night my moisture is turned into the drought of Sommer And againe There is nothing sound in my flesh because of thine anger neither is there rest in my bones because of my sinne for mine iniquities are gone ouer my head and as a mighty burden are too heauy for me My wounds are putrified and corrupt because of my foolishnes My reines are full of burning and there is nothing sound in my flesh yea hee further testifieth that the indignation of God lay vpon him Againe he saith Thy indignation goeth ouer me and thy feare hath cut me off Schol. Yet declare further how far may the Childe of God be cast downe feeling of Gods absence being in continuall vexation by the apprehension of his anger yet continuing the Child of God Min. First the Child of God may be driuen to such an extremity and narrow pinch that to his feeling God hideth his face from him the Lord reiecteth his soule and when he roareth crying out that he shutteth foorth his prayer Next to his sense feeling he will feele the God of heauen to be his enemies pulling him in pieces causing the arrowes of his quiuer to enter into his reines filling him with bitternesse and causing his soule to be farre from peace Againe the Childe of God to his feeling may through the affliction of his soule be at the brinke of despaire and at the point of death yea and from his youth suffer terrors doubting of his life Lastly the Child of God through the manifold tentations of his soule will be so deiected that when he prayeth his spirit will be full of anguish and vexation and agony thinking that God hath either forgotten to bee mercifull or that hee hath shut vp his tender mercies in displeasure that hee hath ouerthrowne and destroyed him on euery side that being gone God hath kindled his wrath against him Schol. Can the Childe of God after he hath felt terror become so senselesse that he will bee hardened from the feare and awe of the maiestie of God Minist He may as the Prophet Isaiah testifieth when hee saith Why hast thou made vs to erre from thy waies hardned our hearts from thy feare as also experience of the Saints of God in all ages witnes the same Schol. How farre may the Childe of God after his effectuall calling runne riotously in prophane loosenesse Min. First he may stray and fall away in his affections of loue and hatred Secondly hee may loose the reines in outward actions Schol. How may the Child of God degenerate in his affections Minist First his loue and obedience may grow cooler vnto Christ Iesus his hatred likewise of sinne may be diminished the loue of righteousnes be remoued a little and yet remaine the Childe of God As we see in Dauid a man after Gods owne heart and Peter Christs deare Apostle who thus for a while did fall away in their affections Schol. What are the degrees by which the Child of God commeth vnto this disordered riot and loosenesse in his affectiones Min. First he suffereth the presence of God to goe foorth of his heart and the minde to be blinded 2. Hee leaueth off seriously either to seeke God or to mourne for his absence 3. The vaile and snares of hardnesse of heart thus commeth vpon him 4. The heart becommeth senselesse and dead 5. The party thus lying open vnto tentation vnarmed sinne deceiueth with the enticements thereof defiling the affections perswading them to fulfill the lusts of the flesh 6. The sense of heauen and of hell become strangely decayed And lastly there may well abide a light to conuince and conuict the conscience thus defiled but no power to resist sinne in the act Schol. What should wee learne from hence Minist First to beware we loose not our peace and communion with God 2. To shun hardnesse of heart and blindnesse of minde 3. Not to suffer the conscience to be senselesse without feeling but euer to retaine a sight and sense of sinne and the terror of Gods wrath for the same with some measure of remorse and godly sorrow 4. To be watchfull that the vile bewitching pleasures of sin benumme not the conscience making it consent vnto such abhominations for if we so doe the strength of sinne will ouercome vs and by the righteous iudgement of God we shall fall into some great danger which although it bring vs not to hell shall be a staine in the conscience and as a thorne in our side all our life long Schol. Is it possible for the Childe of God to fall into such grosse sinnes as those who are ordained vnto destruction the sinne against the holy Ghost excepted Mi. Nothing more certain he may fall into the same sins and yet be no cast away Esau a Reprobate was a fornicator Dauid an Elect did commit adultery Lot an Elect was ouertaken with drunkennes incest so also was Noah with wine Peter an elect denied Christ and Ioseph did sweare by the life of Pharaoh so that he hath no freedome if Gods spirit be absent more then these not to fal into such grosse sins the sinne against the holy Ghost excepted Schol. What is the sinne against the holy Ghost Min. There are sixe names giuen vnto this great sinne 1. It is called a sinne against the holy Ghost 2. A blasphemy an impious blasphemy extreamely impious 3. A sinne that neuer shall be forgiuen 4. A falling away an Apostasie 5. A sinne against knowledge and conscience in great light in despite of the spirit of grace 6. A sinne vnto death Schol. Why is it so diuersly named Mi. Because God in his word hath beene pleased so to expresse the same vnto vs yet if we list to looke more neerely into the same we shall finde sundry causes 1. It is called A sinne against the holy Ghost Not in respect of the substance of the holy Ghost for the essence of the three persons is all in one and the same God nor yet in respect of the Person of the holy Ghost for whatsoeuer is done against any one of the persons is done against all three but it is sayd to be done against the holy Spirit because done against the immediate effect worke and office of the holy Spirit to wit against the shining light of the said spirit this light is indeed an effect of the Father and of the Son as well as of the holy spirit yet it is said to be against the holy Ghost onely because it fighteth against a speciall immediate worke of his against that light and worke of grace kindled by him 2. It is called a blasphemy an impious blasphemy extreamly wicked There be diuers blasphemies a blasphemy of men a blasphemie directly against the Sonne of man a blasphemy impious wicked such as was Pauls blasphemy
store of all manner of grosse abominable actions whether if Christ were now amongst vs visibly they would set to their hands and help to crucifie him again Whether their temporall be turned into a final Apostasie which is only a time for the whole Church to iudge thereof Finally whether they be transformed in a manner into the very diuell So partaking of his light knowledge malice and diuellish nature all which properties to bee in them none but by aduice of the diuell in the furie of a strong tentation will dare to affirme so that by tha time these questions haue beene pressed and their contrarie lying shifting Sophisticall answeres obiections and euasions refuted and discouered it is likely by the grace of God and the other meanes that the fury of the temptation will diminish and their iudgements be somewhat enlightened Since it is a trick of the diuell in temptation chiefely when he is ayded by melancholly to make our least sins our greatest and our indifferent sins the sin against the holy Spirit Therefore now to conclude this point all such poore sinners who either feare to haue committed or to commit this sin not hauing the fore-named properties for some or a fewe of them will proue nothing may cheere vp their faint-ding spirits and lift vp their feeble falling hands weake knees making straight steps vnto their feete as the Apostle speaketh least that which is halting be turned out of the way For their sin is farre farre farre and not neere this most fearefull extreamely impious blasphemy vnto which repentance is denied farre from this finall Apostasie and wilfull malicious sin against knowledge and the conuincing coole well-aduised light of conscience Farre farre not neere this sinne vnto death called The sinne against the holy Ghost and therefore may and ought boldly to vse all the holy meanes appointed of God to attaine the assurance of saluation Schol. But to returne to our former purpose how commeth it to passe that the children of God fall into such grieuous sinnes grace by the holy Ghost being begun in them Mi. Because they nourish not the grace of God but suffer the power of sinne to ouer-rule them Schol. After what manner doe the degrees of sinne growe vpon the Elect Minist First the minde is blinded the will peruerted and the affections corrupted with the desire of the pleasures of sinne 2. The graces of the holy Spirit are quenched by the entertaining of worldly lusts 3. The inward restrayning grace being away and so the heart defiled with vncleannesse the members of the body which are now become the weapons of vnrighteousnesse hauing no power to resist doe yeeld and fulfill the will of the flesh Scholler What may wee learne from hence Minist First to take good heede and beware of the first motions of sinne Next warily to entertaine grace both in flying all occasions of wickednesse and entertaining all holy exercises thereby preuenting hardnesse of heart blindnesse of minde and deadnesse of Spirit Further to haue a continuall battell against the vildnesse of our inward lusts Lastly although the flesh refuse to fight yet to be constant and neuer giue ouer striuing if it were but with one sigh vnto God from the sense and burden of corruption Schol. What is the disposition and state of the childe of God when he sinneth in the afore-said manner Mini. He is senselesse either of the ioyes which he once felt or of the terrours wherewith his soule once was pierced because hee hath quenched the Spirit Next the loue of sinne preuaileth against that loue which formerly he had of God Then the heart is hardened in which although there abide a memorie of wrath yet there remaineth no terrour to be as a bridle to curbe and restraine sinne Further there is a sluggish vnwilling carelesnesse in performance of all spirituall excercises he hath then no pleasure in prayer reading or hearing of the word c. Last of all those small sinnes which before hee made conscience of he will neither account so much of them nor of greater sinnes as before hee did of euill thoughts Schol. What is the cause heereof Minist First an inward desertion of the Spirit Next the tyrannie of the flesh in the lusts of it Scho. What causeth the Spirit of God to withdraw himselfe Min. Sinne and impenitencie Scho. What maketh the affections to be thus vile Minister First a distaste of the meanes of Grace 2. Pleasure in vnrighteousnes Schol. Doeth the childe of God sinne as freely and as senselesly as the wicked and reprobate Min. Before he be called he may Sc. But after effectuall calling will he sinne as freely and loosely without conscience as the wicked Minist As concerning the vnrenewed part Sch. How is it possible that the childe of God being effectually called can fall seeing he hath the Spirit of God Minist By reason of the weakenes of grace and strength of corruption Then because the child of God suffereth the heart to goe loose without laying any imposition and burden vpon the same either of terror or inward strife by holy exercises of the minde or outward lawfull imployments of an ordinary calling Scho. What necessitie is there of this burdening the heart Min. Because the heart is neuer idle but in continuall motion therefore when we ouercome it not with good things it being now bent vnto all euill or when in striuing wee are not equall vnto it It ouercommeth vs making vs to fall shamefully Schol. Doth the childe of God for all this sinne so freely that he escapeth in the meane time vnchallenged Mini. No for in the time of his sinning hee hath a reprouing accuser within him Schol. What in this doth the renewed part Minist It will not suffer him to take his full swinge in him but hee is displeased with it It admonisheth but is not hard It opposeth it selfe but hath no force to controle command or restraine but is ouercome by the olde flouds of filthinesse of the vnrenewed part And thus it lyeth as it were smoothered drowned quenched and so the Spirit commeth to be grieued Scholler Now tell me if the child of God can fall after that hee hath receiued great comfort Minist He may for Peter after that he was ouershadowed on the Mount did fall grieuously denying and forswearing Christ And also afterwards when hee had receiued a farre greater measure of the Spirit did not only dissemble himselfe but also drew Barnabas in the same hypocrisie Scholler Can the childe of God after that hee hath beene heauily cast downe with terror fall againe Minist He may so Ezechias after he had bin greatly terrified did fall so did Dauid in numbring the people Scholler Why suffereth the Lords his Saints to fall thus Mini. First to teach him that standeth to take heed least he fall Secondly to shew vnto the Saints their owne weaknesse 3. To teach them to entertaine
and yet are farre from the wrath of God Minist 1. Those who neuer haue felt wrath but alwayes peace 2. Those who haue felt the tentations of despaire and doubting yet afterwards haue obtained peace 3. Such who feele a hardnesse of heart and can haue no present reliefe Schol. Who bee they who haue neuer felt wrath but alwayes peace Minister Those whom God at their first conuersion hath called with much sweetnesse in melting their hearts by little and little for their sinnes Next such on whom God hath powred out a sense of his loue working in them a perswasion of mercy with ioy renuing the minde working a study of holinesse a hatred of sinne and a loue of righteousnesse Schol. Who be they who haue found the tentations of despaire and doubting and yet thereafter haue found peace Minist Those whom God hath inlightned to see their sinnes and the wrath of God for them and haue bin terrified doubting of their saluation and election yet God afterwards shineth vpon their soules touching them with a sense of remission of sinnes election and glorie whereupon ariseth that peace of God which passeth all vnderstanding and that ioy of the holy Ghost vnspeakeable and glorious Schol. Who are those who feele the hardnesse of their heart yet are not able to shake off the same Minist Those who haue once felt that mollifying power of the Spirit that light which draweth the soule to see it selfe and it owne wildnesse to see also God in the face of Iesus Christ and yet in the present finde a kind of deadnesse within Scholler How may it be knowne that one is not vnder the wrath of God in such a disposition Minist First such a one must looke backe vnto his former experience remembring the dayes of old and the yeeres of ancient time and next againe vnto his present disposition Schol. What must the present disposition be Minister A sense of hardnesse deadnesse and blindnesse A sad heart for the absence of God with a longing for his blessed presence Schol. What must be the exercise of one in this estate Minst A labouring and striuing with the heart to attaine feeling Schol. Wherein must this strife consist Minist In a wrastling with God against the hardnesse of the heart in Prayer and Mourning Schol. But what if one be neither able to wrastle nor striue Minist Yet must hee speake vnto God and shew him the disposition of the soule intreating him to helpe it for his Christs sake Schol. What if one be not able to speake for burden and trouble of soule Minist Hee must grone vnto God hold vp the hands and eyes vnto him desire to desire vse the outward meanes though vnwillingly and with torment for when we are not able to vse our feeling the outward meanes may ease Schol. What comfort can this afford to any one since God will be worshipped in Spirit and Trueth which he in such a case is not able to doe Minister It affoordeth singular consolation 1. In that wee haue a feeling of our selues and our great miserie Next in that such a disposition is vnpleasing vnto vs. 3. In that we would gladly haue it made better 4. In that we feele there is no comfort in heauen or earth for vs vntill God come Schol. How should the soule rest in such a hard estate Min. 1. Rest in hope 2. Waite 3. Say vnto God Giue mee such a heart as thou desirest Lord and then require thou of me such a heart and such a worship as thou desirest Schol. Wherefore doth the Lord suffer his cildren to haue and feele hardnesse of heart Minst First that so much the better they may vnderstand how miserable by nature they are 2. That they may see where only helpe is to be found 3. That being humbled they may not bee lifted vp with spirituall pride Lastly that they may much esteeme and cherish the fauour of God when he commeth in the power of the meanes Schol. In such extremities at what times commeth God to the soule Minist Vnlooked for when we are at the brinke of despaire or else when we haue yeelded as ouercome and almost left desiring or then when hee giueth an earnest and violent desire which neither can nor will be satiate vntill he come Schol. Yet why suffereth the Lord his children many times to vse all the meanes and yet not to finde him in the meanes before hee come thus vnlooked for Minst That wee may know he onely commeth when hee will nothing mouing him but his owne good pleasure Schol. What should wee learne heereof Minist 1. Not to conclude reprobation because to our feeling wee find desertion 2. Not to measure mercy by our present feeling 3. To waite vntill he come though we cannot feele his presence if it were vntill the last gaspe Schol. What if in the meane time there be no other sense but of stinging torments and Wrath Minist Yet must wee make claime vnto his promises In wrath beseech him to remember mercie saying vnto him with Iob Lord although thou wouldest slay vs yet will wee trust in thee thus waiting vntill hee come not being hastie and then in his owne good time he will appeare to our comfort Schol. Who be they who feele no wrath yet remaining vnder the heauie wrath of God Minist First such as haue no effectuall calling from God 2. Such as haue neuer had any true sense of the bitternesse and grieuousnesse of sinne 3. Such as are not mooued with the loue of the trueth neither doe loue God or haue had any sense of his loue or the earnest of the Spirit Lastly all such who make a shewe of godlinesse but haue denied the power thereof Schol. How diuide you those who are in this estate Minist They are partly out of the Church and partly in the Church Schol. Who be they that are out of the Church Min. Those who haue not amongst them the profession of the true God as hee hath reuealed himselfe in his word Schol. Who be they in the Church that lye vnder the wrath yet feele it not Minister First those who professe without knowledge 2. Those who haue conscience without knowledge and holinesse 3. Those who haue attained light yet fight against their enlightning Lastly those who through the custome of sinne are hardned so as with greedinesse they runne forward in all outward and inward impieties God for the present hauing giuen them ouer to a reprobate sense Schol. How farre may one proceede in shewe of true profession and yet be vnder the wrath of God Minist First hee may haue a litterall knowledge 2. A temporall and Historicall faith yea and the faith of miracles 3. He may haue a sorrow for sinne 4. He may haue a desire of heauen 5. He may taste of the good word of God and of the powers of the
world to come Last of all hee may haue an inward restraining power to curbe sinne with an outward holinesse Schol. What knowledge is that which a wicked man may haue Minist A knowledge of sinne of hell of heauen of mercie of wrath and of Christ and of his meritorious death buriall resurrection and second comming with all the points of Religion Schol. What is the reason that this knowledge keepeth them not from this wrath Minister Because it is not applyed close vnto the heart to renue the Spirit of the minde to change the will and affections vnto the loue and obedience of Gods trueth Schol. What kind of knowledge call you this then Minist A litterall knowledge which puffeth vp but neither humbleth nor sanctifieth Scholer Who hath this knowledge Minist The diuels and reprobates and such who are not truely called by Gods holy Spirit Schol. What is the cause that their faith saueth them not Minist Because it is not wrought by the Spirit to apply Christ and all his benefits vnto iustification and sanctification Schol. What manner of sorrow is this which wicked men may haue Minist A worldly sorrow which causeth death Scholler Wherefore is this sorrowe Minist Not for the right cause but for the terrours of conscience and the punishment of sinne Scholler What kinde of desire is this which wicked men may haue of heauen Minist A naturall desire but not spirituall Scholler Why call you it a naturall desire Min. Because wicked men would be in heauen for their owne ease that therby they might escape punishment onely Schol. Wherefore is such a desire naturall Minist Because therein nature onely seeketh the preseruation of Nature and those who wish to be in heauen onely for their owne ease to bee freed of paine doe onely seeke the preseruation of Nature Schol. What kind of feeling is this which wicked men may haue of the good word of God and the powers of the world to come Minister Onely fretting motions wrought by the Maiesty of the word which ouer shadoweth their soules Schol. What is the cause that this feeling is not the true feeling Minist First because it is not wrought by the Spirit of adoption after that speciall manner whereby he worketh in the elect Next because it bringeth no sure perswasion of election and glory As also because it neither feeleth the loue of God nor is bound close vnto God by a secret loue Lastly because that kind of feeling neither satisfieth nor setleth the soule to repose in peace vpon Christ Iesus Schol. What call you this restraining power which the wicked may haue to controule sinne Minister A secret generall working of God repressing the force of nature but withholding his sanctifying grace and the renuing vertu of his holy Spirit Schol. What call you this outward holinesse in men wicked and peruerse Min. An outward conformitie with the law of God without the inward change of minde wil and affection Schol. Since then wicked men may be vnder the wrath of God haueing so many properties of christian professors Shew vnto me how in this narrow pinch of affinitie one may rest assured that he is the child of God Minst What is the speciall thing wherin you would haue me to resolue you of Schol. First I would know how to discerne when our knowledge may be called a sauing knowledge Minist If our knowledge be spirituall it is sauing Schol. What doe you meane by that Minister First we must trie if our mindes bee rightly informed according to the trueth of Gods word Next whether our hearts loue that which wee know Lastly wee must looke whether wee practise that which we know and loue mourning because we are not able to obey and striuing against our rebellion that wee may obey that light of God which is in our minde this is spirituall knowledge Schol. But if a man neither know loue nor obey what can he then say of himselfe saue this that God is greater then his conscience and therefore iustly may condemne him Min. Yet if there bee a desire to loue and yeeld obedience vnto that which one knowes sometimes groning in the Spirit vnto God sometimes mourning and constantly waiting with a heauy heart vntill such time as the Lord shall powre forth his renuing grace all is yet safe Schol. VVhat warrant haue wee so to doe Min. His owne promises Schol. Shew them I intreate you Minist Blessed are they which hunger and thirst for righteousnes for they shall bee filled whosoeuer waiteth on mee shall neuer bee ashamed I will poure water vpon the dry ground and flouds vpon the thirsty ground Schol. Seeing that the wicked haue a certaine faith which iustifieth not what manner of faith is that which bringeth saluation Minist That faith which is a iustifying before God Schol. who worketh this faith Minist The holy Spirit Schol. VVhat thing is that which the soule apprehendeth by faith Minist Iesus Christ God and man blessed for euermore Our Mediator who was humbled vnto the death of the Crosse for our fakes now sitting at the right hand of God the Father with all the rich benefits which he hath purchased to be powred out vpon vs in this life and in the life to come Schol. How shall wee know whether as yet wee haue so layed sure hould of Christ as to make him our owne Minist First we must marke if our soules haue perceiued all sufficiencie of grace to bee in him and the God-head bodily dwelling in him Next wee must looke if wee betake our selues onely vnto Christ Iesus to repose vpon him looking for righteousnesse and life only in him Then must wee behould what loue we haue vnto our Redeemer and try whether or not wee would gladly loue him better then all the pleasures in heauen or earth Further we must marke if euer our soules haue found ioy in beleeuing in the death and resurrection of the Lord Iesus Lastly looke if our hearts be allured with a louing languor to desire for that sense and feeling we once had of him resoluing to obey him if wee were able Sc. Seeing that you say the wicked haue a sorrow for sinn how should the Elect know that their sorow is not the sorrow of wicked men Minist The sorrow of the elect is a godly sorrow vnto life Sch. VVhy call you it a godly sorrow Min. Because it is wrought by God himselfe 2. Because the heart breaketh not so much for shame and paine as for hauing offended so louing so mercifull a Father the piercing of so louing a Redemer and for grieuing of the holy Spirit our Comforter Schol. VVhat kind of sorrow is the sorrow of Gods children Minist A bitter sorrow mingled with sweetnesse Sch. Are the children of God euer affected with this griefe when they are sorrowfull M. No. Sch. VVhat other disposition then haue Gods children