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A39925 Newes from heaven both good and true concerning England shewing the right way to compose all differences and reconcile all disagreements betwixt King and subjects, husband and wife, parents and children, masters and servants. Ans so to procure the Prince of peace to dwell in our land. Being a dialogue between Mr. Tindall and Mr. Bradford, two famous English martyrs. Collected by E.F. E. F.; Tyndale, William, d. 1536, attributed name.; Bradford, John, 1510?-1555, attributed name. 1641 (1641) Wing F15; ESTC R213677 6,556 10

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NEWES FROM HEAVEN BOTH GOOD AND TRUE CONCERNING ENGLAND Shewing the right way to Compose all differences and reconcile all disagreements betwixt King and Subjects Husband and Wife Parents and Children Masters and Servants And so to procure the Prince of peace to dwell in our LAND Being a DIALOGUE between Mr. TINDALL and Mr. BRADFORD two famous English MARTYRS Collected by E. F. LONDON Printed by R. O. G. D. 1641. Newes from HEAVEN Mr. Bradford AH my deare Brother Tindall do you heare what stirrs and discords there are at this time in our native Countrey England betwixt Superiours and Inferiours Tind Yea my sweet Brother Bradford I both heare of them and know the cause of them Brad. O What is the cause I pray you Tind The true cause is the want of doing their duties each to other as Christians ought to doe Brad. Well then the remedy is for each one to doe their duty werefore my deare Brother I beseech you declare unto me what is their duty each to other and I will send my Friend to be your messenger to carry it to some godly brother of ours yet in the flesh Tind My sweet brother you know I did it when I was in the flesh and they have my works amongst them Brad. O but brother your works are very hard to be found and those that have them do not raed them so oft as they should but of you would be pleased to send a Message from Heaven O how acceptable it would be unto many Tind Well then sweet brother sith you will needs have it so I will grant your request wherefore I pray you first let the King know that though in the Temporall Regiment he be in the Roome of God and representeth God himselfe and is without comparison better then his Subjects yet let him put off that and become a brother remembring that his people are Christs inheritance and possession bought with his blood and therefore in that respect are his brethren and equall with him in the kingdome of God let him not therefore think himselfe too good to doe them service neither let him seek any other thing in them then a father doth in his children yea then Christ sought in us let him doe and leave undone all things in the Common-wealth in respect to the good of his people that it may be manifest he seeketh nothing but their good when a cause commeth before him that requireth the execution of Iustice then let him take the Parson of God upon him then let him know no creature but heare all indifferently and judge righteously for the judgement is the Lords let him rule his Realme himselfe with the helpe of lay-men that are sage wise learned and godly let him take their advice what is necessary for the defence of his Realme and the peace of his people let him defend his people from the wrongs of other Nations and let him keepe his faith and truth and all lawfull promises and bonds not onely with Christian Princes but also with the Turk or whatsoever other Infidell it be for that is right before God as the examples of Scripture testifie and thus briefly touching the duty of the King Brad. But stay sweet brother is it not meet that the King should make use of them they call spirituall Lords for his Counsellors Tind O no by no meanes for is it not a shame above all shames and a monstrous thing that no man should be found able to govern a worldly Kingdome save Bishops Prelates that are appoynted to preach the Kingdome of God which Kingdome Christ saith is not of this World The truth is deare brother to preach Gods word is too much for halfe a man one man therefore cannot well do both for no man can serve two Masters Brad. Well then sweet brother proceed on I pray to shew the duty of Subjects Tind The Apostle Paul saith let every soule be subject to the authority of the higher Powers c. God therefore hath given Lawes unto all Nations put Kings and governours in his owne steed to rule the world through for there is no power but of God by power understand the authority of Kings and Princes therefore subjects are to obey not for feare of punishment so much as for conscience sake for those Subjects that have Christs spirit in them doe not looke what is profitable good glorious honourable for themselves neither on their owne will but on Gods will onely and so they do reverently thinke of and voluntarily subject unto their King for Gods Ordinance sake Brad. And sweet brother must Subjects doe this to bad Kings as well as to good Kings Tind Sweet brother this is most certaine that heads and governours are ordained of God and are the gift of God whether they be good or bad and whatsoever is done unto us by them that doth God be it good or bad if they be evill why are they evill verily for our wickednesse sake are they evill we read in the Book of Sammuel that God was angry with the people and moved David to number them and though Ioab and other Lords disswaded him from it yet it holpe not God so hardned his heart in his purpose to have an occasion to slay the wicked people and this is sure though a King be the greatest Tyrant in the world yet is he unto his subjects a great benefit for whom they ought to thanke the Lord highly for it is better to suffer one Tyrant then many and to suffer wrong of one then of every man and better to pay the tenth then to loose all Brad. Then surely sweet Brother it is not lawfull for Subjects to avenge themselves of their King though he be wicked Tind O no sweet Brother by no means but rather pray to God heartily for him if any man might have avenged himselfe upon a King that might David most righteously have done upon King Saul who so wrongfully prosecuted him yet when God had delivered Saul into his hands that he might have done what he would with him he did no more but cut off the lap of his garment and yet for that his heart smote him and when his men incouraged him to slay him he answered God forbid that I should lay my hands upon the Lords anoynted neither suffered he his men to hurt him for if he had he had sinned against God for God hath made the King in every Realme Iudge over all and over him is there no Iudge He that judgeth the King judgeth God and he that layeth hands on the King layeth hands on God if the Subjects sin they must be brought to the Kings Iudgment if the King sin he must be reserved to the Iudgment and wrath of God Brad. Well then now sweet brother proceed in the next place to speak of the duties of Husbands to their Wives Tind The Apostle Peter exhorts husbands to give reverence to their wives as unto the weaker vessell in