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A20358 A discription of what God hath predestinated concerning man in his [brace] creation, transgression, & regeneration : as also an answere to Iohn Robinson, touching baptisme. Murton, John. 1620 (1620) STC 6773; ESTC S768 92,942 190

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cry vnto God to helpe them * Psal 108.12 Psa 118.13 Mark 9.24 O Lord giue vs helpe against trouble c. And the Lord hath holpen me and Lord helpe my vnbeliefe and many the like Yet also God requireth men should worke out their owne saluation c * Phil. 2.12 To open the doore c * Reuel 3 20. Cam 5.2 All which sheweth that man worketh with Gods Grace Also it is proued that man may resist that Grace of God wrought by his word and Spirit * Act. 7.5 Act. 13.46 Yee haue alwayes resisted the holy Ghost and you haue put the word of God from you and iudged your selues vnworthy of euerlasting life what can be more plaine then that man hath Free choyse to worke with God or against God in the worke of his Grace Hauing thus by the euidence of Scriptures proued that man hath free choyse to chuse or refuse in matters of God I will now speak somthing to common experience 1. First remorse of Conscience in this life and in Hell doe sufficiently proue this thing for if men had not libertie remorse would not trouble any for whatsoeuer euill we doe of necessity presently we excuse it iustly and acquite our Consciences by impossibility as if a man should drinke poyson not knowing of it he neuer would haue any scruple of conscience because it was vnauoidable hee could not preuent it but if hee procured it himselfe or might haue preuented it and would not then the torture of conscience will possesse him Againe that worme of Conscience that sticketh so deepe in the soules of all damned creatures should neuer appeare in hell if men were depriued of libertie for their torment consisteth in this that for their owne demerits being treated of God in such sort that if they would Heauen laide open for them by accepting Gods Grace through Faith and obedience to the Gospell and yet they cast themselues into Hell of their owne accord through vnbeliefe and rebellion 2 No humane Law can with iustice be enacted but such as may be obserued because the end of euery iust Law is to make good subjects and therefore it were most absurd that all men were not able to keepe that Law which was ordained for all and by which all shall be iudged to be punished that breake it Moreouer the very state of man who is in this world fighting requireth libertie for standing betweene Heauen and Hell God and the Deuill to ouercome or be ouercome all reason requireth that he might be plyable both wayes either to accept God or reject him follow Sathan or resist him 3 If men want free choyse what iudgement shall that be in the Scriptures so often repeated that euery man shall receiue according to his workes What iustice will appeare to torment men for sin wickednes to whom it was impossible to do otherwise 4 All the Theeues and wicked persons that either are punished with the Magistrates sword or with euerlasting torments shall giue witnes against the Caluinists in this thing For if they could not chuse at that time they committed such euills but doe the same by the force of Gods Predestination then what Law will punish a man with death for doing a thing vnauoydable for it lay not in their power to auoyde The Law of God neuer inflicted it vpon any and the Law of the Princes of the earth doth not inflict it For if a man kill another against his will or when by no meanes he could auoyd it death is not inflicted But if he might haue auoyded it and did not then had he libertie to auoyde euill and did it not and so iustly deserueth punishment Finally this error is the roote of all licentiousnes for thus may men truely reason according to this Doctrine either wee are decreed to doe well or euill If to doe well then it is impossible to doe euill If to doe euill then it is impossible to doe well For all goodnes proceedeth of Grace compelling our wills and all euill commeth of Gods decree which wee haue not power to resist neither can we chuse but doe it for they say as before wee are compelled to sinne by power which how wicked it is hath sufficiently I hope bene shewed by holy writ Ereu. You haue very largely and vndeniably proued that there is yet left in man free choyse to will or nill in matters of God yet you confesse all is through Gods Grace not otherwise Odeg. Yes I say what is in man whether by creation or regeneration he hath it only by God and therefore to God onely is all the glory to be attributed for whatsoeuer is wrought in man or by man that good is and I say that what Adam had in creation and lost by transgression for himselfe and his posterity that is restored through Christ yea and more too for although of our selues we can doe nothing as of our selues that good is 2. Cor. 3. ● yet through the strength of Christ wee shall bee able to doe all things Phil. 4.13 This the Apostle also affirmeth in Rom. 8. that what was impossible to the law in that it was weake because of the flesh God sent his Sonne in the likenesse of sinfull flesh and for sinne condemned sinne in the flesh So that although the flesh of it selfe cannot perceiue the things of God nor fulfill the law yet through Christ it is able to performe the same Ereu. I thinke your opposites will not denie but that vnregenerate men may doe morall duties of the law and also that the regenerate may doe Spirituall duties of the Gospell But the greatest difficulty is whether a man can doe any thing in the worke of his regeneration either chuse life being offered by Christ or refuse it for they say as before the Elect cannot chuse but be regenerate and the reprobate cannot be regenerate Odeg. I haue shewed sufficiently before that Gods Grace that bringeth saluation through regeneration Tit. 2.11 Math. 22. Ezek. 18. not otherwise appeareth to all that all are called to this Grace and that vnfainedly GOD would haue all euen all sinners come that they might liue and not dye I haue shewed also that men may resist the holy Ghost in the offer of this Grace Act. 7.51 Act. 13.46 and put this word of Grace from them and iudge themselues vnworthy of euerlasting life that although Christ Iesus would gather men to saluation as a Hen her Chickens Mat. 23.37 yet they can refuse it And although the Lord calleth men to heare the voyce of the Gospell Heb. 4.7 yet may they harden their hearts against it by all which and much more formerly related it is most apparant that although the Lord stretch out his hand all the day long Rom. 10.21 yet men may gainsay him Verse 3. and also they may submit themselues vnto this righteousnesse of God the promise of saluation through faith and obedience which