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A11461 Of romanizing recusants, and dissembling Catholicks. A counter-maund of a counterfeit embassage. Or, An answer to the posthume pamphlet of Ralfe Buckland sometime a popish priest secretly printed and published after his death about a yeere a goe. Sanderson, Thomas, 1560 or 61-1614. 1611 (1611) STC 21711; ESTC S114100 46,568 117

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stubbornlie to the superstitious Novelties of their late fore-fathers faith who haue departed from the rule of my Religion whereinto their first christened Ancestors were converted by mine Apostles and their Coadjutors And wherein all their godly Predecessors both vertuously liued and happilie died before the patcheries of your Poperie came in They haue a shadow and shew of some late praecedent generations but the soundnes of Antiquitie from the purer times and truly Apostolicall who so ever sifteth their Moderne faith shal find they haue not for all their great cracks and brags Tertullian● de praescript aduersus haereses See Iude. Vers 3. And so Tertullian the anciēt spake well in that Dominicum verum quod prius traditum extraneum falsum quod posterius immissum The truth of the Lord was first deliuered to the Saints but forraine falshood crept in afterwards The false Embassador THese are they which nourish the sparkes of that fire which I came downe to kindle on earth c. Recusants highly to be commēded for their zeale The Lord Christ THey are not praise worthie that praise themselues 2. Cor. 10.18 but they whome I the Lord doe praise Now I doe not allow your proude vaunting of your selues I know your workes and your waies that they are full of wickednes and hypocrisie Are you the men that nourish the fire which I came downe to cause to burne on Earth Luc. 12.49 No no yee know not of what spirit you are Luc. 9.55 For with the furious fire of a blind zeale which burneth in your breasts haue ye not invēted kindled a subterraneal sulphureous fire to quench the light of Israell in this Realme and all the goodlie shining lampes thereof to the everlasting memorie of your perpetuall all shame Then at that time did you shew how you doe maintaine and vphold that my Law Exod. 20.13 Thou shalt doe no murder How so ever you presume of the rest when you intended attempted the most barbarous The Gunpowder treason tyranicall vnheard-of and Satanicall destruction of King Queene Prince and all the States the beautie and honour of this Kingdome in an hower Oh yee sonnes of Balaam and of Balack yee bastard generation and yee monsters of Moab Let my people sing Faux of Moab is destroyed and brought to silence in a night Piercie Catesbie and the rest of Moab are destroyed Ier. 48.10 and brought to silence in an jnstant And cursed shall hee bee that doth the worke of the Lord negligentlie or vnfaithfullie and with-holdeth his sword from the bloud of all the brood of Moab when her time and judgement shall be come For doe you glorifie my name that glorie in such workes being sorie for nothing more Papists sorie that the Gunpowder treason tooke no better effect Luk. 5. ●2 Ioh. 2.25 then that it hath not taken your wished and prayed for effect Dissemble it no longer for I know you hearts Therefore shall you be dishonoured for ever and the jndeleble blot of your noted infamie shall never be put out you shall be known for a spotted and pestilent generation so long as the world endureth Goe to now yee stars in the night yee greene Bayes in the winter yee fresh fountaines in the Deserts No no yee know your titles in mine Apostle Iude ve 12.13 in the Gospell well enough Cloudes without water carried about with euery wind whiff of vaine jmaginations Wells and pits dryed in the deserts barraine fig-trees if yee be greene in the midst of Sommer when the Winter cometh corrupt trees twice dead and plucked vp by the rootes wandring Starres fallen out of the jnferior heaven for whome is reserued the blacknes of darknes for euer For to be short ye walke in darknes and know not whither yee goe flatter not your selues your own sectaries doe not beleeue much lesse do they confesse that ye do well and your vowed enemies my true and faithfull servants and friends the English Protestants long agoe haue learned of me to repute and range you in the rancke of those who stand assuredlie in the state of condemnation The false Embassador Schismaticks haue no part with Recusants neither are of the same Church WIth these you may wish to consort in conscience To partake in profession of faith Yee may in bare tearmes auouch as much but shall neuer with reason be able to make it good c. The Lord Christ IF they haue no part with you how happie are they If they consort in conscience and partake in profession of a false beleefe with you they haue no part in me no part in Heaven but they most justly and aboundantlie deserue vnto themselues the vengeance of eternall fire ●ome out frō Recusants yee staggering Papists If they will come from among you wholie both in conversation and in Religion and follow mee faithfullie with my true professors serving me nor in the oldnes of the Letter with a servile feare Rom. 7.6 but in the newnes of the Spirit out of thankefulnes in loue from a pure heart a good conscience 1. Tim. 1 5. and Faith vnfained comming out from the Babel of your Superstitions Atheisines and Apostasies let them never care for your defectiue and infected merites For the kingdome of Heaven belongeth vnto mee by a double right Enheritance and Purchase In the one Bernard I was borne vnto it in the other I haue perfectlie deserved it through obedience and sprinckling of my precious and meritorious bloud 1. Pet. 1.2 and I will giue it them if they can apprehend it by a true and liuelie faith Rom. 4.4 c Ephe. 2.8.9 2. Cor. 7.1 without regard of any other merite provided alwaies if they doe their best without hypocrisie to walke before mee in righteousnes and true holines all the daies of their life Ephe. 4. ●4 Luk. 1.75 But ye perverted Runnagates because ye are become perverse Recusants and the shameles Apostates of my Church of England returne I advise you returne into my fold els I must saie vnto you as I spake vnto the Pharisees of old how can yee escape the damnation of Hell Mat. 23. ●● The false Embassador Schismaticks are not Catholicks ANd are you indeed aske the Recusant and he reiecteth you aske the Persecutor and hee imbraceth you not Aske the Saints and Angels and they abhorr you I neuer yet tooke you for seruant of mine c. The Lord Christ. YOur meaning is your miscalled Schismaticks are not Romane Catholicks What if that be granted are they aught the worse But let me heare the proofe Aske the Recusants aske the persecutors you meane the Protestants aske the Saints and Angels and you adde of me I neuer yet tooke them for seruants of mine What opinion Recusants carrie of them neither doe they greatlie neither will I that they should at all regard The Protestants finding thē in their pauilions yet not acquainted
impeachment of That mine euerlasting Offering Popish Ceremonies apish ridiculous and Office after the order of Melchisedech Your multiplicity and absurdity of most apish and toyish Ceremonies as ducking crossing closing opening of hands Host-eleuating loud-bawling secret Mumbling and the like are fitter for a Theater then for the Church What reuerence can yee require to such jrreuerend childish and profane Administrations To be short your dishonorable seruice your detestable Altar your hypocriricall creeping and casting downe your bodyes your no lesse odious lifting vp jmpure harts and hands your idolatrous adoratiō your contumacious endeauour of blynd zeale your dreadfull nay direfull abhominable sacrifice The abhomination of the popish Masse therfore abhominable because an offring not only of my passion but of my body a spirituall a Carnall a bloudy and vnbloudy Sacrifice indeed a Sacrifice and no Sacrifice because not only a memory of me the Redeemer of my Chosen is solemnly celebrated and liuely represented but a propitiation also for the liuing and the dead is pretended to be offered directly crossing and contrary to that one Oblation of my selfe once offred not without bloud Heb. 10.14 whereby for euer I haue consecrated and perfected them that are sanctified wherein by the Eternall spirit I offered vp my selfe vnto God Heb. 9.12.13.14 and found eternall redemption for them All these are not the workes of my Children and seruants and therfore I command you once againe vnder the penalty of my great and Eternall curse that yee cease any further to lead the blynd out of the way whome you haue peruerted too farr already and will not suffer them so much as to enter a deliberation to returne vnto the flocks of my Sheapheards againe The false Embassador Schismaticks justly repelled from the Sacramēts HEre you straine courtesie here flesh and bloud reclaimeth the spirit taking the foyle and the old man triumphing Some of you discharge themselues of their crimes by my Stewards ouer rigorous austerity c. How dare you proffer to approach to my Altar where so great a Maiestie is resident c. The Lord Christ IS not this an ouer-Rigorous austerity and most apparent in you First to inhibite them the Churches of the Protestants and after to exclude them from your own mysteries Oratories also You say nay For first you would haue them to Confesse themselues guilty for ioyning with the Protestants and to purpose amendment of that fault to receaue your absolution and to doe penaunce and so to be purged and so be prooued worthy to come vnto your Altar But I say vnto you still your Altar is not my Altar my great Maiestie is not there resident but onely the pettie Maiestie of your profane bread neither is your penaunce your pardon your Confession my ordination Therefore they who refuse these things from you are guiltles before me and as yee saye in this one thing happie that they are suspended and reiected of you And I denounce a woe against you that Cal good euill and euill good sweet sower sower sweet Esay 5.20 put light for darknes and darknes for light The false Embassador WEll then Schismaticks are to be praesumed for Haereticks and why among my Catholicks since you are not where shall I find you where c. The Caluinist taketh you for Proselytes c. The poore Catholick scandalized at your impiety c. The Lord Christ WHat and will you still make me the Patrone of your lyes surely I doe not hold them among my true Catholicks no more then I doe your selues neither yet doe I conclude The Lord alloweth not dissembling Catholicks that cleauing to the Protestants they cleaue to sectaries neither doe I pronounce them Protestants neither do I allow their reproofe either in priuate talke or in priuate opinion of the Protestant proceedings neither are those proceedings departure from the faith nor yet their Temples houses of Idolatry as ye blaspheme So that albeit by their presence with them in appearance they honour by obaying they allow by example they further by deeds they cōfirme by dissembling they establish those proceedings albe-it they goe to those houses as one of them they sit there as one of them they behaue themselues reuerēdly as one of them yet in all this or in any of these they cannot be defined eyther Schismaticks or Haereticks In a word howsoeuer they are reputed Proselyts of the Caluinist as you terme the true Christian and howsoeuer your poore Catholicks poore indeed and voyde of true Catholicke faith Dissembling Catholicks no Schismaticks are scandalized of them though they may be lost sheepe for the time and dissemblers yet are they no Schismaticks being not diuided from the true Church much lesse at the brinck of bottomles haeresie in that respect The false Embassador Those which goe to the Conuenticles of Haereticall rites are iustly and properly called s hismaticks ABhominable is Schisme and horrible is the name of Schismaticke c. When my Church in her first prime c. The Lord Christ. Schisme is a separation from the faith of truth and the true Cōmunion of Saints What is Schisme And therefore all those Christians vpon whatsoeuer intent purpose of heart whether for Feare of the Aduersity and Crosses or for loue of the prosperity ease and sensuality of this present euill world who do consort themselues though but for a time with the Iewish Turkish or any other Heathnish profession let them be censured for schismaticall Reuolters till they returne into the Church againe But herevpon how can you charge your cunning Catholicks of schisme for associating in their actions with the Protestants First you are to proue the one to be Haereticks their Assemblies also and rites haereticall which you can neuer do and then forewarne the other vnder the penalty of Schismaticall reproch to adhaere vnto them Be it that some of them for all I know who know the hearts doe not repute and take the Protestants for Haereticks for that is the poynt you press vppon them and yet like Ambidexters Machiauels and Temporizers only for feare or for loue of the earth and earthly things against their consciences will make a shew to be on their side yet I say neuer shal their own false opiniōs no more thē yours conclude them to be Schismaticks in joyning with my Church howsoeuer they may be convicted of themselues for notorious hypocrites and dissemblers and so be vnexcusable in my sight For I cannot like it that they or you or any should dissemble with me Iosue 9.9 or my people The Gibeonites in that they sought the friendship of my seruant Iosua and his host did not offend me in that they sought it by dissimulation they did not please me vers 21. Therfore for the one I spared their liues and for the other I adjudged them to perpetuall seruitude The remnant of those Iewes who dwell now among