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A76800 The storming of Antichrist, in his two last and strongest garrisons; of compulsion of conscience, and infants babptisme [sic]. Wherein is set down a way and manner for cburch [sic] constitution; together with markes to know right constituted churches, from all other societies in the world. Also the cruelty inequality and injustice of compulsion for conscience, by 29. arguments is opened; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Also 12. arguments against the baptizing of infants; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Wherein is displayed to the view of all, from the testimonies of Scriptures, Fathers, councels; the mischiefs, uncertainties, novelties, and absudities [sic] that do attend the same. Wherein is answered the most valid arguments brought by St. Martiall, in his sermon preached in the Abbey Church at Westminister, for the defence hereof. With an answer to Mr. Blake his arguments, in his book cald Birth-priviledge; and to the arguments of divers others. As also a catechisme, wherein is cleerely opened the doctrine of baptisme, together with a resolution of divers questions and cases of conscience, about baptisme. Written by Ch. Blackwood, out of his earnest desire he hath to a thorow reformation, having formerly seen the mischiefs of half reformations. Blackwood, Christopher. 1644 (1644) Wing B3103; Thomason E22_15; ESTC R7842 101,204 126

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baptisme is insufficient For the assumption we have proved before that infants want faith at their baptisme For the propositon it appeares Acts 19.2 3 4 When certain that were not well instucted in christianitie had Baptized some Disciples but had not baptised them into the name of the holy Ghost and its probable by Pauls speech verse 4. that they were not baptised so much as into the Name of Jesus Christ but onely into the name of one God hence their baptisme being defective in beleeving in some of the persons of the Trinity they counted their baptisme not to be sufficient and so had a right baptisme in the Name of the Lord Jesus neither was this a needlesse scruple of Conscience in them for Paul did approve it vers 6. By laying his hands on them How much more then is baptisme of infants insufficient that do not beleeve in any person of the Trinitie Neither let any man say this was a relation of Paul concerning Iohns hearers in the time of Iohns ministery so that this word They must have reference unto those hearers and not a relation of Paul concerning an act done by Iohn it plainly appeares because the Apostle goes on in a continued Historie concerning the Twelve to verse 8. for they that Paul laid his hands on and received the holy Ghost and spake with tongues verse 6. must needs be meant verse 4.5 And whereas those that maintain that Paul vers 4.5.6 relates concerning Iohn and his hearers Contend that imposition of hands and beleeving in Christ are all one the contrary appears Act. 16.17 10 47. Argument 8. The same condition and qualifications are required in persons baptiseable in our daies as were required in times of the Apostles But to have put on Christ to be baptized into Christs death to have the heart sprinkled from an evill conscience to be buried and risen again with Christ to have the answer of a good conscience were th● conditions then required Therefore such conditions and qualifications are required in our dayes The proposition appears because the essentials of the church of Christ are the same in all ages and it s no where said these conditions shall be essentiall requisites to the planting of churches but after churches be planted members shall come in in the faith of their master or parent For the Assumption it appears Rom. 6.3 4. Know you not that so many of us as were baptised into Iesus Christ that is the name doctrine and prof●ssion of Christ the badge of Christianity Christian worship Christian religion were baptised into his death The Apostle speaks of their being dead and buried with Christ as of a thing that was in being at their baptisme when they were baptised into the name and doctrine of Christ Obj. But this was meant onely of those that were brought out of a state of Gentilisme but this doth not hinder but the infants of such were baptised though they were not deemed to have grace Answ The Apostle cuts of all such allegations by these words Know ye not that so many of you as were baptised into Iesus Christ that is the name and profession of Christ were baptised into his death and buried with him by baptisme So Gal. 3.26 27. The Apostle had said vers 26. The Galatians were all the children of God by faith in Christ Iesus he proves it from their baptisme vers 27. For as many as were baptised into Iesus Christ that is his name and doctrine have put on Christ That is all those that were baptised in Galatia into the name doctrine and profession of Christ had put on Christ before baptisme so farre as man could judge else any man might have excepted against the Apostles reason and said this proves not the point for they are others that is to say infants that are baptised into Christ and have not put on Christ So Coloss 2.11 12. The Colossians were not baptised to beleeve in time to come but because it was supposed They had the circumcision made without hands by the spirit Christ vers 11. death buriall and resurrection with Christ vers 12. Also faith of the operation of God Now how could this be said of infants So Heb. 10.22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith having our hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience and our bodies washt with pure water Divines interpret this washing of our bodies of the washing in baptisme And Estius upon the place saith its the common exposition as well of the Greeks as of the Latins to understand it of the Sacrament of Baptism which must needs be meant because he names the body for if he would not have named something that he had not named before he would not have called it body but soul and have said having your soul washed with pure water but he had spoke before of the soul in these words having our hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience therefore he must needs speak of such a washing as respects the body as it is a body which can be no other then the water of baptisme Which things being so we see what kinde of persons are baptised Those that had their hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience and had faith to draw nearer in assurance to God So 1 Pet 2 21. The like figure whereunto Baptisme doth now save us not the putting away of the filth o● the flesh but the answer of a good conscience towards God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In the Greek the interrogation of a good conscience when the conscience is so purged that God hath nothing against it to condemne it it can interrogate God what he hath against it Which shews in Peters time who were the subjects of baptisme Even such as were deemed to have purged conscienc●s Hence Tertullian in his book of repentance faith that washing of baptisme is the seal of faith which faith is begun and c●mmended from the faith repentance for we are not therefore washed that we may cease to sin but because we have ceased because we are now washed in heart So that we see what qualifications were in the Apostles time and afterwards to a right receiving of baptisme and are to continue as a rule for all churches Argum. 9. That tenent which brings mischiefs to the churches and the contrary practise benefits the practising of the one is unlawfull and the contrary practise required But the baptisme of infants brings mischiefs to the churches and the delaying baptisme till persons beleeve brings benefit Therefore the practising of infants baptisme is unlawfull and the contrary practise required The proposition is undoubted the assumption hath two branches 1 That infants baptisme brings mischiefs 2 That the delaying baptisme til persons beleeve brings benefits I will show the mischiefs which infants baptisme brings 1 It fils the Church with rotten members Such persons in following times growing up prove often wicked and many of them onely civill men we know not how to get
The Storming of ANTICHRIST In his two last and strongest GARRISONS Of Compulsion of CONSCIENCE and Infants BAPTISME Wherein is set down a way and manner for Church constitution together with markes to know right constituted Churches from all other societies in the world Also the cruelty inequality and injustice of compulsion for conscience by 29. Arguments is opened with an answer to 26. Objections brought for the same Also 12. Arguments against the baptizing of infants with an answer to 26. Objections brought for the same Wherein is displayed to the view of all from the testimonies of Scriptures Fathers Councels the mischiefs uncertainties novelties and absudities that do attend the same Wherein is answered the most valid arguments brought by St. Martiall in his Sermon preached in the Abbey Church at Westminster for the defence hereof With an answer to Mr. Blake his Arguments in his Book cald Birth-priviledge and to the arguments of divers others As also a Catechisme wherein is cleerely opened the doctrine of Baptisme together with a resolution of divers questions and cases of conscience about Baptisme Written by Ch. Blackwood out of his earnest desire he hath to a thorow Reformation having formerly seen the mischiefs of half Reformations Matth. 13.30 Let both grow together untill the Harvest Heb. 10.22 Let us draw near having our hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience and our bodies washed with pure water Quod si quando obstructi sint veritatis canales vel turbidi fluant hoc est Episcopi Pastores corrupte doceant recurrendum tunc sit ad primam originem traditionem Apostolicam in sacris Scripturis traditam ut inde surgat actus nostri ratio Cypr. Epist ad Pomp. cont Epist Steph. Episc Romani Printed Anno 1644. Being one of those years wherein ANTICHRIST threatned the storming of the CHVRCHES Faults escaped REader I shall desire thee to correct these faults which hinder the sence and so oft as the sense is interrupted to have recourse hereto the Author being for the most part absent could not oversee the Presse so that many faults have escaped full sore against the Authors minde In the I. Part. FOr officers and read offerers and pag. 5. successive for succession pag. 6. terminis convertabiles for termini convertibiles pag. 8. fitter read sifted p. 12. exceeding r. proceeding p. 17. excommunication r. excommunicatum ibid can approve r. canot approve p. 19. for do it r. do it but quaere hereof p. 23. guilded r. guided p. 24. just solemn r. most solemn p. 25. worshipping r. worship p 27. almost r. utmost ibid. worship a glorious r. promote a glorious p. 33. most whereof r. some whereof ibid. In the II. Part. ARe gathered read being gathered pag. 4. thirdly to belong to Christ c. it was a Marginall note and should have come in the answer next thereto in the third place p. 5. from Judaea r. for p. 6. preach r. reach p. 6. the Greek word only signifies read r. so the Greek word c. for Christ r. Cyrus p. 8. for imitation r. initiation p. 9. that in a state r. that were in a state p. 12. verbo ecclesiae baptismo r. vero ecclesiae baptismo in the margent p. 13. for they are r. for there are p. 14. others in infants r. others in future p. 16. baptise destroyes r. baptism destroyes p 17. imitation r. initiation p 18. and sealed r. or sealed p. 19. 5. in the course r. 4. in the course p. 21. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 r. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 24. Cothians r. Corinthians p. 26. the Canons r. these Canons p. 27. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 r. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 pag. 28. maried r. unmaried p. 29. Collegio r. Collegae p. 30. were the r. were then p. 36. suchnesse r. suchnesse of condition p. 38. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 39 mark seal r. mark set p. 41. blood of mariage r. bond of mariage p. 44. Esa 16.17 r. Esa 60 17. p. 45. blot out the 2 answer to object the 15. p. 47. which was a mistake through hast Our pertakers r. once pertakers p. 52. over commanded r. once commanded ibid. for alledge r. some alledge p. 53. expresse receiving r. expresse reviving p. 54. the promises r. the premises p. 56. I know most that r. I know many that p. 57. line 26. circumcision of circumcision r. covenant of circumcision p. 61. such a worship r. Masse p. 62. With some mis-spellings and mis-accenting here and there which I desire the favourable Reader to correct THE PREFACE To the READER LE●st that proverbe should be turned upon me Prov. 26.17 He that medleth with strife belonging not to him is like one that taketh a Dog by the eare The Reader may understand that I entred not upon this controversie without a sufficient call the which was this There being a Sermon preached at Cranbrooke in Kent by Mr. Francis Cornewell against Paedobaptisme therein was by him asserted that it was an Antichristian Innovation a humane Tradition and that it had neither precept nor example nor yet true deduction from the Word or words to the like effect Divers of the Ministers thereabouts Some whereof were present and heard him being much offended hereat my selfe meane time being silent on both sides agreed together that we should in our private studies examine the question at our next meeting which was within a fortnight bring our collections according as we found it according to which agreement I studying the question at large found that it was a humane Tradition and that it contained more evill in it then ever I could have imagined according to our agreement I brought in my arguments against infants baptisme nothing being brought in the defence thereof the Ministers being hindred through forgetfulnesse and interruption of businesse as they said The Collections being then and there read a Reverend brother stood up in the name of the rest who spake to this Effect That they sought for truth rather then for victory and therfore he desired that the arguments might be left with one of them that so they might be examined whereunto all the rest of the Ministres then and there present did accord the arguments having lyen five weeks and seeing no answer of any kinde given to them I sent for them home and with some additions transcribed them for the Presse I am conscious of mine own inability herein especially in this learned age but partly knowing that it is the Lords manner of working to choose the foolish things of the world to confound the wise and the weake things of the world to confound the mighty and things that are not to bring to nought things that are that all the glory may be his 1 Cor. 27 28. and partly being convinced of the uprightnesse of the cause I maintain being thereunto led by a cleere light though not favoured by times nor accompanied with any temporall ends that I know of
heard or else if they refused then banishment and imprisonment followed or some such punishment witnesse the banishment of Molerus from Wittemburge and Zanch● from Strasburge and many others 5 There is no promise that all the Protestant churches shall be kept from errour from the time of Luther or Calvin or that they shall come into a state of perfection all at once either in point of doctrine or discipline we tax it as a brand of Roome to hold the church cannot erre and we by the same position shall cast our selves upon a desperate rock of never amending what is amisse Object 26. There are many mischiefes goe along with it and therefore we ought to abandon this Doctrine of not baptizing infants 1 There will be a wide doore set open to heathenisme for a great part of the world will in time become heathens seeing many that goe for Christians pertake of nothing in christianitie but their baptisme Answ 1. This will be no damage but benefit to christianity in that many that live the lives of heathens under the name of Christians will be discovered and seeme as they are so the name of God will be kept from blaspheming by these whose infant baptisme saith they are Christians when they are only artificiall christians 2 This will overthrow parishes or Parochiall churches Answ True and I thinke it comes neerer the Apostolicall institutions wherein calling out of the world by beleeving and repenting did make a person capable of baptisme Tho●ndi●e of the primit●v gov●●nment of c●u●c●es pag. 16. 17 and so to become a member of a church not onely the Apostles but after them Apost●licall men went to chiefe cities and preacht there and those in the city and in the adjoyning parts that came to heare having their hearts opened became a church It s plaine saith one the Apostles could not bestow their paines on all places hence reason required they should labour most to plant the faith in the most populous places and common sence and the least knowledge of times will serve to show that from thence it was propagated through the countries that lay to those cities halfe the citie of Rome were not christians in Cyprians time which was long after the Apostles For the division of parishes it is but of late standing in the depth of Antichrists mists in which blinde times it s very improbable that the multitude of men and women were fit matter for a Church I fear me this parochiall constitution and the large tithes that doe accompany it are one of the greatest objectons that hinder the passage of this truth 3 Though this were truth yet it s now unseasonable when there are so many divisions Answ It is most seasonable now had it come at any other time an Episcopall or presbiteriall power might have crushed it there were never more times of likelihood then when men are upon such a generall enquiry for truth and each man gives his reasons for his dissent from others practise truth is never unseasonable I will conclude this with a saying of A ●brose ad Theodosium Augustum lib. 5. epist. 29. tom 3. pag. 109 nihil in sacerdote c. There is nothing in a priest or presbiter so dangerous with God so filthy with men then not freely to speake what he thinks seeing that it is written I spake of thy testimonies before Kings and was not confounded 4 That such persons as hold this are going into deeper errours and that this is but the entrance and that God gives up such persons every where to dangerous opinions Answ This is but one of Satans old juglings no disparagement to our accusers I know most that I have been acquainted with are as sound in the faith as our accusers free from Socinianisme familisme Popery Arminianisme or any other doctrine which is unsound as our accusers that do accuse us and shall be ready to give a confession of our faith if we shall be duely called thereunto wherein we shall confesse what we hold in opposition to the fore named errours 5 It is against charity in making schisme in the Church Answ How is it possible ever to recover the soules of men out of this will worship but by dividing from the common practise 2. Christ and his disciples were not schismaticks in keeping his passeover two daies different from the received practise of the Jewish Church God commanded Num. 9.3 That it should be kept in the 14. day of the first moneth in the appointed season and the Jewish teachers and people put it off to the 16. day as appears because the day Christ was crucified on was the day after his passeover Mat. 20.19.20 compared with John 18.28 But the day he was crucified on was the day before the passeover as appeares Iohn 18.28.19 14. No more are we Schismatikes keeping to the rule though the generality of men practise otherwise 3. With Luther I say potius quam aliquid discedat gloriae dei oceidat non solem pax sed etiam Coelum terra rather then any thing depart from the glory of God let not onely peace but heaven and earth fall A briefe CATECHISME Concerning BAPTJSME Drawne from the preceding Disputation Question WHat is the English word of Baptisme Answer Dipping or Washing by dipping never doth it signifie Sprinkling Quest. What is this Sacrament of Baptisme or dipping a signe or seal of Answ It is a signe of my death and burying and resurrection with Christ Rom. 6.3 4. of my putting on of Christ Gal. 3.27 and that as by water I put away the filth of my flesh So have I the answer of a good conscience by the death and resurrection of Christ 1 Pet. 3.21 Quest Whether is Baptisme a signe of grace to be wrought in future or of grace already wrought Answ Or both 1. Of grace already wrought Heb. 10.22 Let us draw neer in full assurance having our heart sprinkled from an evill conscience and our bodies washt with pure water Col. 2.12 Buried with him in baptisme wherein you have risen again 2. Of grace to be further wrought Rom. 6.4 That Christ will give us strength to walke in newnesse of life Quest. Who are fit subjects for Baptisme Answ Onely such as beleeve Acts 8.12 37 16 34 18 8. Mat. 28.19 and such as repent Acts 2.38 Mat. 3.6 Quest Why are not infants fit subjects of Baptisme Answ Because they do not beleeve nor can give any church any true grounds upon which the Minister can administer the Ordinance neither are they in Christs Commission and therefore are excluded Quest Whether do you thinke it would be better for persons to have Baptisme deferred till they be able to make profession of their faith Answ Yes it would be far better for hereby the churches would have a right matter that is Saints in profession and persons would be carefull to get knowledge and holinesse whereas now they are carelesse of of both Quest. What mischiefe and hurt comes by infants
See Mr. Goodwins Sermon on Acts 5.38 39. wherein sundry persons in one and the same House belong to severall Companies one to the Drapers another to the Mercers 4 Whether is worse A glorious seeming uniformity in a state of self-condemnation or a seeming confusion with a conscientious satisfaction Objection But these persons were good Protestants before this licentiousnesse of conscience was granted Answer 1 Had they beene so before they would have beene so still and are so still 2 If they embraced the truth before it was by accident as a rustie hand of a clock may by accident tell what a clock it is though it stand still and move not 3 It appeares by their change that many of those things they had they had them onely by an implicite faith not from an examination of the ground 2 If they were good before when in an ungrounded uniformity they complied to the common practise without principles or upon unsatisfying principles they are sure better Protestants now when they dare not do things without grounds Objection But should the Magistrate permit this liberty of conscience he should pertake with other men in their sins as the Papists Arminians Brownists c Answer 1 No man pertakes in not restraining any sin when it it is beyond the compasse of his calling now the punishing for heresie is beyond the compasse of a Magistrates calling Tit. 2.10 1 Tim. 1 21 we finde a Heretick after the first or second admonition rejected or almost excommunicated as Hymeneus and Alexander were 2 Whether is not the Magistrate more in danger of pertaking in sin by compelling persons to do things with doubting consciences yea against their consciences And if they do not to be ruined they and their guiltlesse children in their estates Rom 14. ● 22 Or to pertake in sin by leaving men to walk according to that which they think to be the truth Let every man judg● Objection But if such men be suffered to preach such doctrines the number of Hereticks will be so great that they will endanger the Orthodoxe as weeds choak the corn Answer 1 There will be no such danger if there be no persecution for conscience and a Law made for repealing the lawes already made for compulsion 2 Such freedome being granted it s likelier that truth will get ground of errour then errour get ground of truth 3 It is a thing to be questioned whether those that are still in credit with the Magistrate be the Orthodoxe and those that are in discredit be the Hereticks We must imagine that those that make this objection are those that are still in credit with the Magistrate Objection We would willingly suffer the truth to be preacht but those that we prosecute they teach erron●ous doctrines which hazard the souls of men Answer 1 The guilt hereof lies upon the conscience of the Teachers and not upon the Magistrate Matt. 5.19 Whosoever shall teach men so he shall be least in the Kingdome of heaven Heb. 13 7 2 Those that so teach think they teach truth and do but discharge their consciences in so teaching for should they teach otherwise then what they beleeve they should sin 3 Though the truth be but one yet whether is the truth so in the breast of him that hath the power of prosecution that he can infallibly say his tenents are absolute truths ●nd what are different herefrom are erroneous doctrines hazarding the souls of men We see the contrary Acts 4.19 Joh. 16.2 Whosoever killeth you will think he doth good service 4 By this pretence many men serviceable to the Church of God are and have been cut off See J●r 29.26 Hereby Jeroboam 2 Reg. 17.21 ● ave Isra●l from following the L●rd 5 This is the plea tha● all manner of persons in any place or state use for the suppressing of any persons contrary minded as Lutherans Papists c. Therefore it cannot be an infallible rule which is so frequently false and which hath occasioned so much blood of many Saints 6 We must make distinction betwixt erronious doctrines some teach upon the foundation and are more dangerous as some poin●s of Popery Socinianisme c. Some onely are varieties of judgement about smaller matters as the Presbyterian Independent Anabaptist whose difference is principally about order holding Christ for a foundation Against these doubtlesse there can be no exception why they may not be permitted Objection For tender consciences that are truly godly we would willingly suffer them but these men differ from the practise established by Law out of pride and stubbornnesse Answer 1 Because God is the searcher of hearts we ought to think the difference of such mens judgements is out of conscience not out of stubbornnesse till the contrary do evidently appear 2 For the offences of visible pride and stubbornnesse when they shall grow to that height that they trouble the publike peace the Magistrate may doubtlesse punish such in what sect soever Objection But we would willingly permit you your own conscience but we are loth to permit you first to worship God in assemblies secondly to communicate what you beleeve unto others For the Apostle saith hast thou faith Have it to thy self before God Rom. 14. Answer To the former first did not God require assembly-worship and that the Saints should joyn themselves in bodies we could be content to enjoy our own consciences but God requires the same 1 Cor. 14 33. Objection But hereby you get away our good hearers which divers of our Ministers have been the meanes of conversion Answer 1 First for the crown of your Ministers it shall not be the lesse in that they have converted them 2 For your selves you may have the benefit of their prayers and ex●mples as formerly 3 Whether had you rather have them pure in conscience in departing from you according to their principles or to abide with you with wounded consciences To the second branch I answer of communicating what we beleeve unto others though in point of meates and dayes we may have faith to our selves Rom. 14.22 To beleeve in our hearts what is lawfull to eat and observe what not yet doth not this hinder but we must communicate to others what we think to be truth 1 Because Christ hath so commanded Matth. 10.27 What I tell you in darknesse that speak you in light and what ye hear in the eare that preach you upon the house top Obj. But if I do so they will kill me to which Christ saith fear not them that kill the body c. 2. Because the Apostles so practised when a whole Councell had silenced them Acts 4 17.20 We ●annot but speak the things we have seen and heard 1 Joh. 1.2 It s related of Socrates that he would not forbear the declaring of one God though he were sure to die for it How much more should Christians declare the truths of God 3 The persons that do declare those tenents they think to be truths they
the Supper as plainly yea farre more plainly requisites for Baptisme being set forth by plain commands practises and examples and requisites for the Supper drawn only by plain and cleer deduction I conclude that without the foregoing requisites of faith and r●pentance so farre as the Church or Elders are able to judge no man ought to be received into communion in Baptisme no more then he ought to be received into communion in the Supper for want of the said requisites of faith and repentance 3 There is but one excommunication therefore there is but one communion as we see Math 18. If he h●ar not the Church let him be as a Heathen and a Publican and consequently he is cast out of communion in baptisme as well as in the Supper for a person cast out is to be as an Heathen or publican neither of which were baptised And so was the incestuous person cast out for that which is cald a lesse excommunication con●uting in an abstention of vitious men from the Supper and yet holding them in commnunion in other priviledges hath so farre as I see little ground in Scripiure That place 2 Thes 3.14 commonly alledged for it proves nothing If any man obey not our w●rd by this Epistle note that man and have no company with him that he may be ashamed yet count him not as an enemy but admonish him as a brother The word in Greek for note is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies to marke or signe with a marke notorious which was no other but that excommunication practised on the incestuous person as appears by these reasons 1 Because there is the same beginning of excommunication here that is set down 1 Cor. 5.4 as appears in the 6. verse of this chapter which must be conjoyned with this 14. verse We command you brethren in the name of our Lord Iesus Christ that you withdraw your selves from every brother that walketh disorderly 2. By the signification of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies to set a brand upon a Subject 3. By his bidding them withdraw their company from such for fear of infection not onely vers 6. but also vers 14. 4. There is the end of excommunication set down that is That hee may be ashamed both of his wickednesse and come to repentance and of that publike brand wherewith he is stigmatized Now whereas vers 15. it s said count him not as an Enemie that is after the censure is thus past upon the sinner count him not as an enemie that is as a persecutor or one that is an adversarie of the faith but admonish him as a brother that is Though he cease to be a brother being cut off yet do not you lay aside your brotherly affection towards him but still admonish him as if he were a brother in communion with you for admonition is a duty we owe to excommunicate persons and yet wee may withdraw familiar society from them as wee do from Heathens and Publicanes 5. In the course of Scripture those that pertooke of Baptisme did also partake of the supper 1 Cor. 12.13 the Apostle speakes of all beleevers that by one spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Iewes or Gentiles bond or free and have been all made to drinke into one spirit where we see three things 1. That onely those that in the judgement of charity have the Spirit are and ought to be baptized 2. All such that were so judged of were Baptized 3. The same all pertook of the Lords Supper being all made to drinke into one Spirit which divines expound to be no other then drinking in the Lords Supper which by a Synecdoche is put for whole communicating I will now prove the second branch of the assumption that is this the delaying baptisme till persons beleeve brings benefits As 1. Hereby the matters of the Churches will be right whiles none but Saints in profession shall bee admitted members and without a right matter there will never be comfortable Reformation 2. Persons being delayed will be carefull to get knowledge that so they may partake of Church Priviledges and without which they cannot pertake of them and also to addresse their lives according to the Rule of Christianity seeing a want of either would keep them off from being church Members but now most persons being once baptized in their infancie are carelesse to get either knowledge or Holinesse but rest in their baptisme Object But what if a person should die in the time when he is delayed Answ When he hath a will to receive the Odinance of Baptisme but cannot being kept off by the Church or Elders his faith will save him in this case when there is neither carelesenesse nor contempt on his part Ambrose doubts not of the salvation of the Emperour Valentiniar though he were not baptised 3. Ministers and Christians would have a more perfect understanding of the Doctrine of Baptisme which being administred to infants seems to be vnder a cloude What Baptism is For Example Baptisme is a signe or seale of our Death Buriall and Resurrection with Christ Rom. 6.3 4. And that we are planted into the likenesse of his Death and Resurrection having sin dead in us respect of the reign and dying in respect of the reliques verse 5. and we rising again to newn●sse of life Also it s a signe of our faith Mar. 16. of our fellowship with Christ 1 Cor. 12.13 of the holy Ghost Acts 10.47 Of our putting on of Christ Gal. 3.27 of a heart sprinckled from an evill conscience Heb. 10.22 Of the answer of a good conscience 1. Pet. 3.21 When we read these things in the Scriptures we must needs question how can these things be in the baptisme of infants many of which prove very wicked and some will be ready to thinke they once had this grace in baptisme but are now fallen from it but if these things be affirmed of grown persons who understand what they doe and professe what they understand there will be no difficultie in conceiving what the Scripture means seeing every church of Christ or the Elders of it judgeth such persons to professe in sincerity 4. Deferring of baptisme would come nearer the purity of ancient times as appeares not onely in the Acts of the Apostles Act. 8.37 10 47.16.35 and there is never an instance of c●ilden so the 3000. and Lidia So the counsell of Laodicea it behoves them that come to baptisme 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Conc La●● cor 46 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Concil Constant Can 7. learne the faith and to give account of it to the Bishop or Elders the which very cannon its like upon some abuse or neglect r●established in the counsell of Trullo word word for word cann●on 78. So in the counsell of Constantinople which was called in the reigne of Theodosiu● canon the 7. the words are So we Catechise them and make them for to come for a certaine time into
Baptisme Answ It brings many mischiefes besides that it fils the Churches with rotten Members and confounds the world and the Church together it is a groundworke for more traditions and doth so darken the doctrine of Baptisme that we cannot know the true meaning of it when we read of Baptisme in the Scriptures yea hereby many are taken into communion in baptisme who are excluded from communion in the supper whereas the communion in both is one and the same Quest How do you prove that there is but one Communion in baptisme and in the Supper Answ Because there is the same thing signified in baptisme that there is in the supper that is to say our fellowship with Christ in his death and resurrection So that all that are baptized into one body are all made to drinke into one spirit 1 Cor. 12.13 and the same preparations of faith and repentance that are required for the one are also required for the other and he that is cast out of the one is cast out of the other seeing that by excommunication hee becomes like an Heathen or a Publicane Quest But what if an infant or any other in their childehood should die unbaptized are they not damned Answ We know nothing out of the Scriptures of their salvation or damnation and therefore we must not be too inquisitive yet may such infants so dying be saved through the presentment of the satisfaction of Christ Rom. 5.18 to the justice of God for originall sin which satisfaction though it be applied through beleeving in those that can beleeve yet may it be applied without in those that cannot beleeve for else how could any infants be saved Quest Do you thinke infants have no faith Answ Yes they have not faith for they have not reason to discerne betwixt good and evill Deut. 1.39 If they had faith they were presently to be admitted to the supper Faith is an act of understanding which comme●h by hearing as well as an act of the will Quest What grounds have you against infants baptisme Answ Many but chiefly Christs commission Mat. 28.19 Where the subjects of baptisme are those that are made Disciples and this commission is to last to the worlds end vers 20. and reaches to every creature that is to partake of baptisme Mark 16.15 16. Quest Is it not lawfull to baptize persons without they beleeve Answ No Acts 8.37 If thou beleevest it is lawfull Acts 10.47 and 16.34 and 8.12 and 18.8 Quest But may we not be baptized if we be ABRAMS seed Answ Yes but we gentiles are onely Abrams seed by beleeving Gal. 3.7 Know ye therefore that they which are of the faith are the children of Abraham so Rom. 4.16 Gal. 3.29 Quest But what think you of them that would make the children of beleevers to be the seed of Abraham Answ They are mistaken for the scripture speakes onely of three seedes of Abraham that is Christ Gal. 3.16 He saith not to seeds as of many but as of one and to thy seed which is Christ 2. the carnall Jew 3. the bel●ever of Jew and Gentile Gal. 3.28 and they adde a fourth seed of Abraham viz. The seed or children of beleevers among the Gentiles about which the scripture is silent Quest But are not the children of Godly persons visibly in the covenant of grace Answ No the covenant of grace is an invisible thing and we cannot know who are in it nor have we grounds to judge persons are in it till we see some profession of holy life and profession of faith and repentance which infants cannot make Quest What is circumcision Answ It was an obligation to keep the whole Law Gal. 5.3 Rom. 2.24 and shewed unto them that it was their duties to circumcise their hearts Ier. 4.4 Quest. Whether was it not also a seale of the righteousnesse of faith Rom. 4.11 Answ Yes to Abraham onely and if Abrahams beleeving children among the Gentiles should be baptized as he was circumcised then must it not be till they have the righteosnesse of faith as Abraham here had at least they must have it in profession Quest Whether doth Baptisme succeed Circumcision in the same Office Answ No Circumcision was to every Male though reprobate but baptisme onely to the beleever Mat. 28.19 There being a change of the visible Church and of the Ordinances this cannot succeed in room therof nor hath any dependance thereon Quest Whether may not infants of beleevers be baptized by vertue of a covenant holinesse Answ No for baptisme is not a signe or seal of any such outward holynes which may befall reprobates as well as Elect but it is a signe of death Buriall and Resurrection which the beleever hath with Christ 2. There is no command for baptizing such if the Gentiles were so holy which yet is not proved Quest Whether is infants baptisme forbid in Scripture Answ Yes where will-worship is forbid Levit. 10.1 As they that were not in the Circumcision of Circumcision were excluded because they were not exprest as the males and females of Heathen So is it in Christs Commission about Baptisme they that are not exprest in it are excluded from it But now to answer to questions or cases of conscience about this point Quest WHether is it lawfull for a person that is convicted of the unlawfulnesse of Infants baptisme or doubteth thereof to be present at it Answ No in no wise for these reasons 1 Because the inward man and outward man must not bee divided in worship 1 Cor. 6.20 Glorifie God both with body and spirit which are his It s grosse hypocrisie when the outward man is at a worship which the heart doth not love 2 Because by our presence at such a worship we strengthen and embolden others at a false worship wiles they look on us as those that worship the same kinde of worship 1 Cor. 8.10 If any man see thee which hast knowledge fit at meat in the Idols temple shall not the conscience of him which is weak be imbouldened to eat those things which are offred to Idols 3 Because the person that is present at such a worship is not able to make any apologie to God why hee or she is present at such a worship in bodily presence though he or she reserve their hearts to God As a mans wife that is taken in an adulterous bed with another man can give no excuse for her presenting her body there though she say she keep her heart and affection to her husband 4 Because in false worship we are not so much as to touch the unclean thing 2 Cor. 6.17 Come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing Now this being an unclean thing in my conscience I cannot nor must not touch it any way neither with my affection nor with my bodily presence but that as soon at any preacher begins to pray for any such thing I must instantly depart though it be in his prayer after his Sermon 5 Because