as_o warrantable_a in_o point_n of_o conscience_n but_o forbid_v take_v more_o than_o six_o per_fw-la gent._n yea_o the_o very_a act_n of_o the_o 13_o of_o q._n eliz._n concern_v usury_n begin_v thus_o forasmuch_o as_o all_o usury_n forbid_v by_o god_n be_v sin_n and_o detestable_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o statute_n of_o jac._n 21._o there_o be_v this_o proviso_n which_o you_o make_v reply_n to_o pag._n 109._o provide_v that_o no_o word_n in_o this_o law_n contain_v shall_v be_v construe_v or_o expound_v to_o allow_v the_o practice_n of_o usury_n in_o point_n of_o religion_n or_o conscience_n and_o the_o import_n of_o your_o reply_n to_o it_o i_o conceive_v to_o be_v this_o that_o though_o the_o law_n do_v not_o allow_v the_o practice_n of_o usury_n in_o point_n of_o religion_n or_o conscience_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o it_o do_v allow_v it_o in_o civil_a commerce_n and_o that_o it_o appertain_v not_o to_o a_o civil_a court_n as_o the_o parliament_n be_v to_o determine_v whether_o a_o man_n may_v practice_v it_o in_o point_n of_o conscience_n or_o no_o to_o which_o you_o add_v if_o the_o civil_a law_n forbid_v flesh_n in_o lent_n the_o use_n thereof_o at_o that_o time_n in_o point_n of_o conscience_n remain_v lawful_a as_o before_o pray_v consider_v how_o well_o you_o have_v follow_v your_o own_o argument_n and_o whether_o to_o apply_v your_o way_n of_o manage_v it_o to_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n the_o consequence_n of_o it_o must_v not_o be_v this_o that_o although_o the_o law_n allow_v the_o practice_n of_o usury_n in_o civil_a commerce_n the_o thing_n however_o in_o point_n of_o conscience_n be_v the_o same_o as_o it_o be_v before_o notwithstanding_o what_o the_o law_n say_v of_o it_o either_o one_o way_n or_o other_o and_o yet_o you_o seem_v to_o put_v a_o great_a stress_n upon_o the_o law_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o usury_n as_o if_o conscience_n may_v be_v influence_v and_o satisfy_v thereby_o and_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o legitimum_fw-la and_o licitum_fw-la particular_o p._n 105._o let_v it_o be_v consider_v forasmuch_o as_o propriety_n receive_v its_o limitation_n and_o application_n from_o humane_a law_n whether_o any_o man_n have_v not_o the_o same_o right_n to_o six_o per_fw-la cent._n in_o this_o land_n that_o lend_v his_o money_n as_o any_o one_o have_v to_o his_o land_n and_o tenement_n or_o any_o good_n he_o enjoy_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o law_n you_o may_v be_v please_v to_o remember_v that_o the_o question_n whether_o gain_v covenant_v for_o loan_n be_v lawful_a or_o no_o be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a by_o human_a but_o by_o divine_a law_n and_o you_o say_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o law_n which_o forbid_v flesh_n in_o lent_n that_o the_o use_n thereof_o at_o that_o time_n in_o point_n of_o conscience_n remain_v lawful_a as_o before_o what_o obligation_n human_a law_n have_v on_o the_o conscience_n need_v not_o here_o to_o be_v dispute_v for_o the_o law_n do_v not_o command_v any_o man_n to_o take_v use_n but_o to_o return_v to_o your_o instance_n if_o the_o law_n forbid_v flesh_n in_o lent_n dont_fw-fr alter_v that_o case_n in_o point_n of_o conscience_n how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o it_o shall_v have_v such_o a_o influence_n here_o in_o point_n of_o conscience_n you_o say_v pag._n 106._o it_o appertain_v to_o these_o law_n to_o state_n and_o appoint_v as_o at_o what_o rate_n gold_n and_o silver_n shall_v be_v valuable_a so_o also_o what_o rate_n money_n lend_v shall_v bear_v i_o will_v grant_v what_o you_o say_v if_o there_o have_v be_v no_o more_o declare_v in_o scripture_n concern_v lend_v of_o money_n than_o there_o be_v at_o what_o rate_n gold_n and_o silver_n shall_v be_v value_v what_o you_o quote_v dr._n hammond_n for_o pag._n 1â—5_n respect_v another_o case_n far_o different_a from_o this_o sc_n that_o christ_n kingdom_n be_v not_o of_o this_o world_n that_o he_o come_v not_o to_o interpose_v in_o secular_a affair_n such_o as_o be_v the_o propriety_n of_o man_n but_o disclaim_v have_v any_o thing_n to_o do_v to_o be_v a_o judge_n or_o divider_n among_o men._n be_v there_o no_o rule_n then_o and_o law_n in_o scripture_n that_o concern_v human_a contract_n do_v god_n word_n no_o where_n interpose_v in_o secular_a affair_n but_o leave_v all_o to_o man_n determination_n our_o saviour_n while_o he_o be_v here_o will_v not_o be_v a_o judge_n but_o keep_v to_o his_o own_o call_v do_v it_o thence_o follow_v that_o the_o law_n of_o god_n do_v not_o interpose_v in_o secular_a affair_n these_o word_n of_o dr._n hammond_n be_v apply_v by_o he_o to_o confute_v those_o who_o do_v find_v all_o propriety_n in_o grace_n so_o as_o to_o justify_v all_o their_o rapin_n and_o invasion_n on_o the_o estate_n of_o those_o who_o they_o do_v look_v upon_o to_o be_v wicked_a deprive_v they_o of_o their_o most_o lawful_a right_n and_o possession_n mere_o upon_o this_o pretence_n because_o they_o be_v unholy_a and_o lay_v claim_n thereto_o themselves_o as_o be_v gracious_a person_n and_o thereby_o privilege_v to_o enter_v upon_o and_o take_v possession_n of_o any_o carnal_a man_n inheritance_n how_o little_a do_v this_o agree_v to_o the_o purpose_n you_o produce_v it_o for_o and_o yet_o this_o same_o argument_n you_o urge_v again_o pag._n 247._o and_o will_v prove_v it_o by_o this_o of_o dr._n hammond_n do_v you_o think_v that_o there_o be_v not_o such_o law_n in_o some_o country_n or_o that_o there_o may_v not_o be_v such_o a_o law_n as_o will_v allow_v of_o unjust_a gain_n i_o mean_v such_o gain_n as_o be_v forbid_v by_o god_n word_n and_o will_v not_o such_o gain_n remain_v sinful_a and_o unwarrantable_a still_o notwithstanding_o any_o human_a law_n concern_v it_o if_o so_o than_o this_o be_v no_o certain_a rule_n that_o a_o man_n may_v safe_o take_v all_o that_o the_o law_n will_v permit_v he_o to_o take_v yea_o dr._n ames_n himself_o who_o hold_v usury_n lawful_a to_o which_o purpose_n you_o have_v quote_v he_o in_o divers_a place_n yet_o among_o his_o caution_n lay_v down_o this_o that_o it_o be_v the_o safe_a course_n for_o he_o that_o put_v out_o his_o money_n not_o to_o require_v all_o that_o he_o may_v by_o law_n but_o to_o keep_v within_o that_o which_o the_o law_n permit_v and_o bp_o taylor_n who_o authority_n you_o have_v make_v use_n of_o as_o a_o favourer_n of_o your_o cause_n in_o his_o ductor_n dubitantium_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 3._o pag._n 571._o on_o quest_n 5._o whether_o be_v to_o be_v obey_v the_o prince_n or_o the_o bishop_n if_o they_o happen_v to_o command_v contrary_a thing_n say_v the_o latter_a be_v to_o be_v obey_v in_o case_n what_o the_o civil_a law_n enact_v be_v only_o a_o permission_n and_o not_o a_o sanction_n and_o command_n as_o where_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n forbid_v marriage_n in_o a_o certain_a degree_n and_o the_o civil_a power_n permit_v it_o than_o the_o subject_n may_v more_o safe_o obey_v the_o power_n ecclesiastical_a for_o the_o civil_a power_n do_v not_o command_v to_o marry_v in_o a_o certain_a degree_n so_o it_o be_v in_o such_o thing_n which_o be_v permit_v for_o the_o hardness_n of_o man_n heart_n or_o the_o public_a necessity_n the_o permission_n of_o the_o prince_n be_v no_o absolution_n from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n suppose_v usury_n to_o be_v unlawful_a as_o it_o be_v certain_a many_o kind_n and_o instance_n of_o it_o be_v high_o criminal_a yet_o the_o civil_a law_n permit_v it_o and_o the_o church_n forbid_v it_o in_o this_o case_n the_o canon_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v for_o though_o it_o be_v permit_v yet_o by_o the_o law_n no_o man_n be_v compel_v to_o be_v a_o usurer_n and_o therefore_o man_n must_v pay_v that_o reverence_n and_o obedience_n which_o be_v otherwise_o due_a to_o they_o that_o have_v the_o rule_n over_o they_o in_o the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o whereas_o you_o plead_v pag._n 103._o that_o you_o can_v be_v persuade_v that_o man_n may_v take_v so_o much_o upon_o they_o as_o to_o tolerate_v or_o permit_v that_o which_o be_v in_o itself_o unlawful_a since_o it_o will_v be_v a_o virtual_a dispensation_n for_o the_o breach_n of_o a_o divine_a law_n i_o shall_v not_o presume_v to_o offer_v my_o thought_n in_o the_o case_n whether_o they_o do_v well_o or_o no_o in_o tolerate_v it_o be_v not_o that_o which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v the_o question_n we_o be_v principal_o concern_v to_o inquire_v after_o but_o whether_o we_o shall_v do_v well_o in_o practise_v it_o however_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o the_o opinion_n of_o this_o same_o great_a and_o eminent_a casuist_n in_o the_o same_o book_n pag._n 285._o the_o commonwealth_n may_v promise_v not_o to_o punish_v usury_n though_o of_o itself_o it_o be_v uncharitable_a and_o consequent_o
only_o for_o three_o day_n in_o pretence_n to_o one_o with_o who_o he_o intend_v to_o leave_v it_o long_o and_o shall_v then_o take_v profit_n for_o the_o borrower_n keep_v of_o it_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o time_n beyond_o those_o three_o day_n he_o do_v but_o trifle_n indeed_o and_o impose_v on_o his_o own_o conscience_n which_o be_v privy_a to_o what_o he_o do_v secret_o mean_a and_o intend_v and_o in_o so_o do_v he_o be_v as_o true_o a_o usurer_n as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o pretence_n make_v as_o for_o the_o definition_n of_o usury_n which_o you_o represent_v as_o very_o various_a some_o place_v it_o in_o exact_v gain_n other_o in_o the_o compact_a or_o covenant_n and_o he_o who_o you_o reply_v to_o in_o the_o expectation_n which_o you_o seem_v to_o wonder_v at_o most_o pag._n 9_o they_o do_v all_o come_v much_o to_o one_o and_o the_o same_o according_a to_o the_o common_a and_o usual_a definition_n of_o usury_n sc_n pactum_fw-la ex_fw-la mutuo_fw-la lucrum_fw-la covenant_v for_o gain_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o loan_n which_o covenant_n may_v be_v either_o express_v or_o imply_v and_o this_o latter_a way_n of_o covenant_v may_v help_v you_o to_o the_o meaning_n of_o those_o word_n expect_a or_o intend_a which_o you_o say_v you_o understand_v not_o pag._n 11._o as_o also_o the_o take_v what_o be_v not_o exact_v but_o only_o expect_v whereat_o you_o seem_v great_o amuse_v pag._n 137._o when_o it_o be_v well_o know_v and_o take_v for_o grant_v by_o both_o party_n that_o something_o over_o and_o above_o the_o money_n lend_v be_v expect_v or_o intend_v in_o consideration_n of_o the_o loan_n though_o it_o be_v not_o actual_o express_v this_o be_v a_o implicit_a covenant_n mr._n fenton_n express_v this_o distinction_n thus_o there_o be_v mental_a and_o actual_a usury_n the_o first_o consist_v only_o in_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o heart_n for_o he_o that_o do_v not_o indent_n either_o by_o word_n or_o deed_n yet_o if_o any_o hope_n or_o expectation_n of_o gain_n be_v to_o he_o a_o motive_n of_o lend_v that_o man_n in_o the_o court_n of_o conscience_n stand_v guilty_a of_o this_o sin_n before_o god_n as_o he_o that_o lock_v on_o a_o woman_n to_o lust_n after_o she_o commit_v adultery_n with_o she_o in_o his_o heart_n and_o so_o mr._n wilson_n state_n it_o in_o these_o word_n as_o the_o very_a desire_n and_o expectation_n of_o gain_n for_o lend_v only_o be_v mental_a and_o intentional_a usury_n so_o the_o impose_v or_o by_o covenant_n beforehand_o agree_v for_o increase_n above_o the_o principal_a be_v of_o the_o nature_n of_o actual_a usury_n after_o the_o same_o manner_n mr._n greenhill_n state_n it_o in_o his_o exposition_n on_o ezek._n 18.8_o and_o cite_v these_o word_n of_o st._n austin_n for_o it_o si_fw-mi plus_fw-la quà m_fw-la dedisti_fw-la expectas_fw-la accipere_fw-la faenerator_fw-la es_fw-la it_o will_v be_v almost_o endless_a to_o quote_v author_n to_o this_o purpose_n i_o will_v therefore_o instance_n but_o in_o one_o more_o and_o that_o be_v the_o learned_a aim_n who_o you_o have_v yourself_o refer_v to_o in_o divers_a place_n of_o your_o book_n and_o it_o be_v somewhat_o strange_a methinks_v that_o you_o shall_v overlook_v the_o very_a definition_n he_o give_v of_o usury_n which_o be_v lucrum_fw-la ex_fw-la mutuo_fw-la quaesitum_fw-la vi_fw-la ipsius_fw-la mutui_fw-la which_o word_n quaesitum_fw-la he_o explain_v thus_o quaesitum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la hoc_fw-la lucrum_fw-la non_fw-la conventum_fw-la quià _fw-la non_fw-la tantùm_fw-la usura_fw-la realis_fw-la in_fw-la quâ_fw-la pactum_fw-la intercedit_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o mentalis_fw-la quae_fw-la versatur_fw-la in_o intention_n lucrum_fw-la ut_fw-la debitum_fw-la ex_fw-la mutuo_fw-la acquirendi_fw-la istâ_fw-la descriptione_n contineatur_fw-la he_o tell_v you_o also_o that_o those_o word_n vi_fw-la ipsius_fw-la mutui_fw-la be_v add_v to_o distinguish_v usury_n from_o interest_n to_o this_o head_n may_v be_v refer_v what_o you_o say_v pag._n 133._o when_o mr._n j._n plead_v that_o the_o take_n of_o a_o gift_n for_o loan_n be_v usury_n if_o the_o gift_n be_v intend_v or_o expect_v you_o reply_v let_v reason_n judge_n where_o it_o be_v sinful_a to_o expect_v a_o gift_n be_v it_o not_o sinful_a also_o to_o receive_v it_o i_o do_v not_o see_v how_o it_o be_v at_o all_o contrary_a to_o reason_n that_o a_o man_n may_v warrantable_o receive_v what_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o expect_v i_o lend_v my_o money_n free_o as_o a_o pure_a act_n of_o love_n and_o kindness_n expect_v nothing_o for_o the_o loan_n if_o he_o that_o have_v borrow_a it_o will_v of_o his_o own_o ingenuity_n and_o gratitude_n put_v i_o upon_o receive_v some_o gift_n from_o he_o which_o i_o do_v not_o look_v for_o the_o case_n be_v different_a from_o what_o it_o will_v have_v be_v if_o i_o have_v look_v for_o it_o and_o from_o the_o hope_n thereof_o have_v be_v influence_v to_o lend_v he_o this_o money_n and_o to_o this_o purpose_n i_o shall_v observe_v to_o you_o what_o ames_n have_v determine_v concern_v simony_n which_o may_v give_v some_o light_n to_o the_o present_a case_n non_fw-la est_fw-la simonia_fw-la quando_fw-la ex_fw-la merâ_fw-la gratitudine_fw-la sine_fw-la ullo_fw-la pacto_fw-la expresso_fw-la vel_fw-la tacito_fw-la directè_fw-la vel_fw-la indirectè_fw-la aliquid_fw-la datur_fw-la at_o intentio_fw-la ipsa_fw-la istiusmodi_fw-la donationum_fw-la aut_fw-la receptionum_fw-la quamvis_fw-la in_o alterâ_fw-la solâ_fw-la parte_fw-la consistat_fw-la est_fw-la gradus_fw-la quidam_fw-la huius_fw-la peccati_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la non_fw-la malè_fw-la voco_fw-la simonia_fw-la mentalis_fw-la &_o à _fw-la nonnullis_fw-la confidentialis_fw-la prout_fw-la distinguitur_fw-la à _fw-la conventionali_fw-la &_o real_a you_o see_v then_o the_o learned_a ames_n do_v judge_v a_o man_n may_v without_o the_o gild_n of_o simony_n receive_v what_o it_o will_v have_v be_v simony_n in_o he_o to_o expect_v so_o they_o who_o hold_v it_o usury_n to_o expect_v a_o gift_n for_o loan_n count_v it_o not_o so_o to_o receive_v it_o afterward_o if_o it_o come_v unexpected_a adventure_v be_v easy_o enough_o distinguishable_a from_o usury_n though_o you_o seem_v very_o loath_a to_o acknowledge_v it_o and_o suppose_v the_o consideration_n for_o it_o be_v moderate_a and_o proportionable_a to_o the_o hazard_n it_o have_v never_o i_o think_v be_v condemn_v by_o any_o judicious_a and_o consider_a person_n be_v a_o co-partnership_n with_o another_o that_o adventure_n upon_o the_o like_a hazard_n with_o himself_o of_o the_o ship_n miscarry_v if_o the_o ship_n be_v lose_v all_o be_v lose_v so_o say_v you_o the_o lender_n principal_n be_v lose_v if_o the_o debtor_n break_v but_o be_v this_o the_o like_a hazard_n with_o the_o former_a the_o hazard_n you_o mention_n of_o the_o person_n be_v break_v be_v in_o this_o case_n of_o adventure_n too_o beside_o the_o hazard_n of_o the_o ship_n be_v return_n for_o the_o man_n who_o be_v entrust_v with_o the_o money_n that_o be_v adventure_v may_v break_v and_o sometime_o do_v but_o the_o profit_n receive_v upon_o the_o ship_n be_v return_n be_v not_o in_o consideration_n of_o that_o hazard_n of_o the_o man_n break_v but_o of_o the_o know_a hazard_n to_o which_o the_o ship_n be_v expose_v and_o the_o proportionable_a return_v the_o ship_n be_v like_a to_o make_v if_o it_o come_v home_o safe_a there_o be_v some_o uncertainty_n in_o all_o worldly_a thing_n but_o they_o who_o lend_v upon_o use_n do_v take_v care_n to_o secure_v their_o money_n absolute_o either_o by_o have_v land_n bind_v for_o it_o or_o by_o some_o collateral_a personal_a security_n or_o both_o they_o may_v be_v sometime_o mistake_v when_o they_o think_v it_o very_o sure_a and_o there_o be_v no_o worldly_a thing_n whatever_o but_o be_v liable_a to_o some_o casualty_n it_o may_v suffice_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o the_o usurer_n mean_v no_o other_o than_o to_o place_v it_o in_o good_a and_o sufficient_a and_o sure_a hand_n it_o be_v not_o free_a from_o all_o casualty_n if_o he_o do_v choose_v to_o keep_v it_o in_o his_o own_o you_o say_v further_o pag._n 17._o or_o rather_o quote_v rivet_n for_o it_o that_o what_o be_v cite_v out_o of_o aristotle_n cicero_n plutarch_n etc._n etc._n against_o usury_n respect_v not_o so_o much_o what_o be_v intrinsical_v as_o what_o be_v accidental_a and_o common_o attend_v it_o the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o expression_n of_o the_o father_n which_o be_v very_o bitter_a against_o usury_n they_o have_v respect_n to_o that_o usury_n which_o prevail_v too_o much_o in_o all_o age_n against_o equity_n honesty_n charity_n and_o faithfulness_n as_o chrysostom_n upon_o matthew_n say_v there_o be_v nothing_o more_o cruel_a nothing_o more_o shameful_a than_o the_o usury_n of_o his_o time_n but_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o understand_v it_o of_o all_o usury_n etc._n etc._n do_v those_o learned_a man_n and_o father_n there_o be_v themselves_o make_v any_o distinction_n and_o say_v they_o mean_v what_o they_o speak_v
consideration_n too_o be_v as_o valuable_a for_o the_o use_v he_o pay_v i_o as_o for_o the_o rent_n he_o pay_v i_o the_o loan_n of_o money_n be_v in_o itself_o as_o true_o valuable_a as_o the_o let_n of_o a_o house_n from_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o we_o be_v not_o in_o all_o case_n to_o bring_v god_n law_n to_o our_o measure_n and_o that_o there_o be_v but_o little_a reason_n to_o build_v much_o upon_o either_o of_o these_o conclusion_n that_o the_o law_n be_v moral_a in_o one_o respect_n and_o not_o in_o the_o other_o or_o that_o it_o be_v primary_o intend_v only_o with_o respect_n to_o the_o poor_a and_o now_o have_v show_v that_o these_o limitation_n apply_v to_o those_o scripture_n that_o condemn_v usury_n be_v not_o so_o satisfactory_a as_o to_o put_v this_o matter_n out_o of_o doubt_n that_o the_o usury_n you_o plead_v for_o be_v lawful_a i_o shall_v apply_v myself_o to_o those_o principal_a argument_n before_o i_o which_o you_o offer_v in_o defence_n of_o it_o and_o those_o may_v be_v reduce_v to_o these_o seven_o follow_v which_o i_o shall_v speak_v to_o in_o the_o order_n i_o set_v they_o down_o though_o they_o be_v otherwise_o place_v in_o your_o book_n according_a as_o mr._n j_n discourse_n give_v you_o occasion_n to_o offer_v they_o and_o the_o first_o be_v that_o it_o be_v not_o bite_v because_o the_o borrower_n as_o well_o as_o the_o lender_n may_v be_v a_o gainer_n by_o it_o second_o that_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n be_v for_o it_o three_o that_o a_o man_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o lend_v his_o stock_n free_o to_o those_o who_o be_v as_o rich_a or_o rich_a than_o himself_o four_o that_o many_o holy_a and_o learned_a man_n have_v judge_v it_o lawful_a five_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o carry_v on_o of_o trade_n sixthly_a that_o it_o be_v but_o do_v as_o you_o will_v be_v do_v by_o seven_o that_o there_o be_v divers_a case_n some_o of_o which_o you_o instance_n in_o wherein_o it_o be_v hard_a to_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o usury_n be_v more_o bite_a than_o other_o way_n of_o deal_v that_o be_v approve_v of_o by_o those_o who_o condemn_v usury_n i_o shall_v reply_v to_o each_o of_o these_o in_o their_o order_n your_o first_o argument_n be_v common_o answer_v by_o divers_a instance_n which_o be_v give_v of_o unwarrantable_a deal_n wherein_o yet_o both_o party_n be_v gainer_n among_o which_o i_o shall_v only_o mention_v this_o one_o sc_n buy_v a_o presentation_n you_o answer_v to_o this_o that_o though_o both_o party_n be_v gainer_n thereby_o yet_o the_o church_n be_v a_o loser_n so_o it_o be_v return_v to_o your_o argument_n though_o both_o lender_n and_o borrower_n may_v be_v gainer_n yet_o those_o customer_n who_o buy_v of_o those_o man_n that_o borrow_v upon_o use_n be_v bite_v and_o that_o they_o must_v pay_v the_o dear_a for_o what_o they_o buy_v other_o tradesman_n who_o have_v money_n of_o their_o own_o be_v as_o will_v general_o to_o raise_v the_o price_n too_o and_o sell_v as_o dear_a as_o they_o can_v and_o for_o this_o reason_n they_o who_o have_v write_v against_o usury_n conclude_v all_o usury_n to_o be_v bite_v whether_o deserve_o or_o no_o i_o will_v not_o say_v but_o this_o be_v most_o plain_a in_o their_o write_n that_o they_o will_v not_o admit_v this_o distinction_n of_o a_o moderate_a usury_n and_o a_o bite_a usury_n and_o for_o this_o reason_n you_o may_v have_v spare_v methinks_v what_o i_o find_v pag._n 134._o mr._n j._n answer_v those_o who_o plead_v that_o the_o expression_n of_o the_o father_n and_o other_o writer_n by_o he_o quote_v against_o usury_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o gripe_a usury_n that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o matter_n you_o reply_v upon_o he_o be_v they_o then_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o usury_n that_o be_v not_o gripe_v we_o must_v pardon_v his_o memory_n have_v tell_v we_o before_o once_o and_o again_o that_o all_o usury_n be_v gripe_v pray_v consider_v what_o kind_n of_o argue_v this_o be_v be_v it_o not_o very_o obvious_a that_o mr._n j._n mean_v no_o more_o than_o this_o that_o what_o the_o father_n and_o those_o writer_n he_o quote_v condemn_v be_v usury_n consider_v without_o this_o distinction_n of_o gripe_a usury_n and_o moderate_a usury_n you_o indeed_o make_v this_o distinction_n for_o they_o divers_a time_n but_o they_o have_v make_v no_o such_o themselves_o dr._n john_n raynolds_n than_o who_o as_o one_o observe_v the_o world_n hardly_o ever_o see_v a_o better_a man_n and_o a_o better_a scholar_n conclude_v this_o distinction_n of_o bite_a usury_n and_o not_o bite_v make_v use_n of_o say_v he_o by_o some_o late_a divine_n to_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a flame_n and_o to_o the_o like_a purpose_n say_v mr._n greenkill_n in_o his_o exposition_n on_o ezek._n 18.8_o let_v man_n take_v heed_n how_o they_o meddle_v with_o usury_n and_o trust_v to_o a_o distinction_n of_o man_n brain_n make_v bite_a usury_n unlawful_a and_o other_o usury_n lawful_a lest_o by_o this_o distinction_n they_o get_v money_n in_o their_o coffer_n and_o lose_v their_o soul_n at_o last_o the_o same_o i_o find_v in_o the_o english_a annotation_n on_o psal_n 15.5_o the_o common_a distinction_n of_o bite_a and_o more_o moderate_a usury_n have_v no_o ground_n at_o all_o in_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n much_o of_o your_o discourse_n depend_v upon_o this_o distinction_n whereas_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o intend_a in_o the_o law_n than_o you_o must_v grant_v i_o conceive_v that_o it_o be_v only_o what_o you_o call_v bite_a usury_n that_o be_v forbid_v to_o the_o jew_n and_o not_o that_o which_o you_o call_v moderate_a usury_n and_o if_o so_o i_o will_v ask_v you_o this_o question_n whether_o you_o think_v the_o jew_n may_v practice_v this_o kind_n of_o bite_a usury_n towards_o all_o stranger_n that_o be_v to_o say_v towards_o all_o those_o that_o be_v not_o jew_n if_o you_o admit_v that_o it_o must_v be_v consider_v how_o we_o be_v to_o understand_v those_o scripture_n in_o which_o god_n require_v the_o jew_n to_o show_v mercy_n and_o kindness_n to_o stranger_n indeed_o by_o this_o distinction_n you_o seem_v to_o hold_v the_o jew_n and_o we_o to_o be_v equal_o concern_v in_o this_o law_n and_o command_n of_o god_n against_o usury_n and_o consequent_o invalidate_v your_o first_o defence_n that_o this_o law_n be_v political_a and_o peculiar_a to_o the_o jewish_a nation_n the_o word_n in_o the_o original_a for_o usury_n signify_v bite_v because_o say_v junius_n usury_n bit_v and_o consume_v a_o man_n and_o his_o substance_n and_o so_o say_v ainsworth_n and_o i_o believe_v most_o other_o that_o treat_v of_o it_o but_o what_o a_o weak_a foundation_n be_v this_o to_o ground_v such_o a_o distinction_n upon_o because_o the_o word_n signify_v bite_v that_o therefore_o there_o be_v a_o twofold_a usury_n bite_a and_o not_o bite_v especial_o see_v not_o only_a neshek_n which_o signify_v bite_v but_o tarbith_n which_o signify_v increase_v be_v condemn_v levit._n 25.36_o and_o both_o mention_v together_o take_v thou_o no_o usury_n of_o he_o or_o increase_n but_o fear_v thy_o god_n and_o ezek._n 18.13_o have_v give_v forth_o upon_o usury_n and_o have_v take_v increase_n shall_v he_o then_o live_v etc._n etc._n your_o second_o argument_n i_o find_v pag._n 103._o where_o you_o plead_v the_o law_n on_o your_o side_n for_o the_o the_o take_n of_o use_n which_o mr._n j._n suppose_v the_o law_n to_o admit_v for_o the_o avoid_n of_o great_a evil_n you_o seem_v to_o wonder_v at_o that_o much_o great_a evil_n what_o great_a than_o the_o damnation_n of_o soul_n i_o can_v believe_v it_o do_v you_o not_o believe_v that_o the_o least_o oppression_n take_v oppression_n in_o that_o sense_n which_o all_o do_v allow_v of_o do_v deserve_v damnation_n and_o do_v you_o not_o also_o believe_v that_o some_o oppression_n be_v great_a than_o other_o if_o it_o be_v a_o oppression_n to_o require_v six_o pound_n for_o the_o loan_n of_o a_o hundred_o which_o some_o do_v think_v it_o be_v it_o be_v a_o great_a oppression_n in_o the_o like_a circumstance_n to_o require_v eight_o or_o ten_o but_o as_o to_o this_o argument_n of_o the_o law_n be_v be_v on_o your_o side_n it_o will_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o take_v a_o little_a notice_n of_o your_o own_o way_n of_o express_v it_o pag._n 104._o whereas_o the_o law_n immediate_o precede_v this_o which_o be_v now_o in_o force_n allow_v eight_o in_o the_o hundred_o this_o last_o statute_n forbid_v take_v above_o six_o per_fw-la cent._n which_o toleration_n be_v grant_v say_v the_o learned_a coke_n that_o great_a oracle_n of_o the_o law_n for_o the_o like_a reason_n that_o divorce_n be_v tolerate_v among_o the_o jew_n our_o law_n do_v not_o encourage_v the_o take_n of_o any_o use_n or_o undertake_v to_o justify_v it_o
way_n in_o dubiis_fw-la tutior_fw-la pars_fw-la eligenda_fw-la second_o though_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o watch_v against_o scrupulosity_n as_o a_o very_a troublesome_a vexatious_a distemper_n which_o may_v also_o prove_v a_o great_a snare_n to_o he_o and_o use_v his_o best_a endeavour_n in_o all_o matter_n that_o concern_v he_o to_o inform_v his_o conscience_n aright_o yet_o of_o the_o two_o extreme_n a_o man_n be_v less_o endanger_v by_o this_o to_o which_o purpose_n our_o late_a able_a learned_a religious_a judge_n hales_n have_v express_v himself_o thus_o in_o that_o excellent_a discourse_n of_o he_o call_v the_o great_a audit_n i_o have_v more_o tremble_v under_o the_o fear_n of_o a_o sear_a than_o a_o scrupulous_a conscience_n because_o i_o always_o count_v the_o latter_a though_o more_o troublesome_a yet_o more_o safe_a i_o have_v choose_v rather_o to_o forbear_v that_o which_o seem_v but_o indifferent_a lest_o there_o shall_v be_v some_o thing_n in_o it_o that_o may_v be_v unlawful_a and_o will_v rather_o gratify_v my_o conscience_n with_o be_v too_o scrupulous_a then_o flat_o it_o by_o be_v too_o adventurous_a i_o have_v still_o choose_v rather_o to_o forbear_v what_o may_v be_v probable_o lawful_a than_o to_o do_v that_o which_o may_v be_v possible_o unlawful_a because_o i_o can_v not_o err_v in_o the_o former_a i_o may_v in_o the_o latter_a if_o thing_n be_v disputable_a whether_o they_o may_v be_v do_v i_o rather_o choose_v to_o forbear_v because_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o my_o forbearance_n be_v unquestionable_a three_o they_o who_o be_v encourage_v to_o practice_v usury_n by_o such_o argument_n as_o you_o have_v plead_v in_o defence_n thereof_o if_o ever_o they_o come_v afterward_o to_o doubt_v of_o it_o will_v find_v great_a perplexity_n than_o those_o who_o scruple_n at_o it_o first_o of_o all_o if_o it_o be_v a_o scruple_n and_o for_o that_o reason_n forbear_v it_o altother_n mr._n baxter_n i_o know_v allow_v of_o some_o kind_n of_o usury_n and_o you_o have_v urge_v his_o authority_n for_o it_o among_o other_o but_o what_o he_o write_v in_o reference_n to_o any_o doubtful_a way_n of_o usury_n i_o shall_v here_o apply_v to_o usury_n in_o general_n which_o i_o think_v may_v without_o any_o breach_n of_o modesty_n or_o charity_n be_v say_v to_o be_v doubtful_a and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o will_v not_o say_v it_o be_v sinful_a in_o his_o direction_n about_o restitution_n and_o satisfaction_n where_o his_o second_o direction_n be_v this_o do_v nothing_o that_o be_v doubtful_a if_o you_o can_v avoid_v it_o lest_o it_o shall_v put_v you_o upon_o the_o trouble_n of_o restitution_n as_o in_o case_n of_o any_o doubtful_a way_n of_o usury_n or_o other_o gain_n consider_v that_o if_o it_o shall_v hereafter_o appear_v to_o you_o to_o be_v unlawful_a and_o so_o you_o be_v oblige_v to_o restitution_n though_o you_o think_v it_o lawful_a at_o the_o take_n of_o it_o what_o a_o snare_n then_o will_v you_o be_v in_o when_o all_o that_o use_v must_v be_v repay_v i_o think_v such_o as_o mr._n j._n be_v not_o the_o only_a person_n who_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o perplexity_n about_o this_o matter_n to_o man_n conscience_n but_o such_o also_o as_o do_v encourage_v they_o to_o this_o way_n of_o deal_v which_o they_o be_v not_o able_a clear_o to_o justify_v man_n be_v general_o desirous_a of_o gain_n and_o will_v be_v nibble_v even_o at_o hazardous_a and_o doubtful_a way_n of_o compass_v it_o ready_a in_o the_o first_o place_n to_o catch_v at_o any_o argument_n that_o may_v serve_v in_o some_o sort_n to_o countenance_v the_o practice_n of_o what_o they_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o and_o then_o some_o time_n afterward_o upon_o one_o occasion_n or_o other_o the_o conscience_n of_o some_o of_o they_o smite_v they_o for_o it_o and_o will_v not_o suffer_v they_o quiet_o to_o keep_v what_o they_o have_v get_v this_o way_n and_o they_o who_o be_v satisfy_v before_o by_o the_o least_o argument_n be_v not_o now_o quiet_v with_o all_o the_o reason_n and_o argument_n that_o be_v offer_v they_o to_o justify_v what_o they_o have_v do_v but_o do_v wish_v they_o have_v never_o be_v so_o embolden_v to_o it_o by_o those_o who_o conduct_v they_o former_o think_v they_o may_v very_o safe_o follow_v i_o be_o very_o sensible_a how_o ill_o a_o office_n it_o be_v to_o create_v any_o unnecessary_a perplexity_n to_o the_o conscience_n of_o man_n and_o that_o there_o be_v scarce_o any_o thing_n of_o a_o more_o perplex_v nature_n than_o the_o matter_n of_o restitution_n in_o doubtful_a cafe_n to_o such_o as_o can_v tell_v how_o to_o quiet_v themselves_o as_o they_o ought_v to_o do_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o predominancy_n of_o their_o fear_n for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o usury_n be_v sinful_a and_o that_o what_o have_v be_v get_v that_o way_n ought_v in_o good_a conscience_n to_o be_v restore_v i_o shall_v be_v very_o loath_a in_o so_o doubtful_a a_o case_n to_o charge_v any_o person_n with_o a_o obligation_n of_o restitution_n for_o notwithstanding_o all_o that_o i_o have_v say_v in_o answer_n to_o your_o argument_n i_o have_v see_v so_o much_o that_o have_v be_v plead_v in_o defence_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o usury_n as_o will_v make_v i_o very_o loath_a to_o put_v any_o man_n upon_o restore_v what_o he_o have_v receive_v this_o way_n it_o be_v a_o know_a maxim_n melior_fw-la est_fw-la conditio_fw-la possidentis_fw-la and_o i_o see_v no_o sufficient_a reason_n to_o move_v any_o person_n to_o restitution_n in_o this_o case_n though_o he_o be_v not_o altogether_o so_o well_o satisfy_v in_o what_o he_o have_v as_o he_o will_v desire_v if_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v to_o he_o to_o have_v be_v unlawful_a gain_n but_o this_o be_v the_o issue_n i_o be_o willing_a to_o bring_v this_o dispute_n unto_o whether_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o time_n to_o come_v for_o i_o will_v rather_o look_v forward_o in_o such_o uncertain_a and_o doubtful_a matter_n than_o backward_o i_o say_v whether_o for_o the_o future_a any_o man_n that_o consider_v what_o have_v be_v beforementioned_a will_v not_o act_v more_o advise_o in_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o this_o way_n of_o deal_n and_o the_o rather_o because_o though_o he_o boggle_v not_o at_o it_o now_o yet_o his_o conscience_n may_v hereafter_o sit_v more_o uneasy_a than_o he_o think_v of_o at_o present_a if_o he_o do_v adventure_n on_o it_o upon_o such_o uncertain_a resolution_n as_o those_o be_v which_o i_o have_v above_o take_v notice_n of_o one_o say_v usury_n be_v forbid_v only_o to_o the_o poor_a another_o say_v it_o be_v forbid_v to_o the_o poor_a and_o rich_a that_o be_v jew_n but_o only_o to_o the_o jew_n among_o themselves_o a_o three_o say_v it_o be_v not_o all_o kind_n of_o usury_n that_o be_v forbid_v to_o any_o but_o only_o bite_a usury_n and_o the_o resolution_n be_v as_o uncertain_a how_o to_o understand_v when_o it_o be_v bite_v and_o when_o it_o be_v not_o bite_v one_o say_v it_o be_v not_o bite_v if_o it_o do_v not_o exceed_v what_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n allow_v and_o yet_o the_o law_n itself_o say_v that_o nothing_o therein_o contain_v shall_v be_v construe_v or_o expound_v to_o allow_v of_o the_o practice_n of_o usury_n in_o point_n of_o religion_n or_o conscience_n another_o say_v it_o be_v the_o safe_a course_n for_o he_o that_o put_v out_o his_o money_n not_o to_o require_v all_o that_o he_o may_v by_o law_n but_o to_o keep_v within_o that_o which_o the_o law_n permit_v a_o three_o say_v he_o that_o lend_v his_o money_n shall_v be_v as_o far_o as_o moral_o he_o can_v be_v sure_a that_o he_o who_o pay_v he_o this_o use_v be_v able_a to_o do_v it_o without_o eat_v out_o or_o hurt_v himself_o but_o that_o he_o make_v great_a gain_n of_o it_o himself_o and_o if_o either_o by_o misadventure_n or_o by_o his_o own_o neglect_n it_o be_v otherwise_o it_o be_v the_o safe_a course_n to_o forbear_v the_o interest_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n it_o be_v his_o duty_n to_o take_v the_o safe_a a_o four_o say_v the_o borrower_n gain_n must_v be_v so_o much_o more_o at_o least_o as_o the_o interest_n he_o pay_v a_o five_o say_v the_o lender_n must_v purpose_n and_o intend_v private_o with_o himself_o to_o share_v in_o the_o loss_n of_o the_o principal_a if_o it_o happen_v to_o miscarry_v in_o the_o borrower_n hand_n we_o see_v they_o who_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o say_v something_o in_o desence_n of_o some_o kind_n of_o usury_n have_v make_v such_o paring_n and_o mincing_n of_o it_o that_o a_o man_n will_v do_v better_o i_o shall_v think_v in_o all_o respect_n to_o let_v it_o alone_o altogether_o and_o if_o any_o person_n will_v undertake_v to_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o man_n wise_a way_n and_o that_o he_o shall_v not_o by_o so_o do_v consult_v the_o ease_n and_o quiet_v of_o his_o conscience_n best_a i_o shall_v be_v very_o glad_a to_o see_v any_o thing_n more_o rational_o plead_v by_o he_o than_o what_o i_o have_v offer_v for_o i_o wish_v nothing_o more_o in_o this_o matter_n than_o the_o clear_a determination_n of_o it_o which_o way_n soever_o it_o shall_v fall_v and_o now_o sir_n i_o think_v it_o high_a time_n to_o draw_v to_o a_o conclusion_n the_o like_a consideration_n that_o incline_v you_o to_o animadvert_v with_o so_o much_o freedom_n on_o the_o write_n of_o other_o may_v excuse_v i_o to_o you_o for_o make_v these_o observation_n on_o your_o own_o i_o be_o altogether_o a_o enemy_n to_o that_o censoriousness_n you_o write_v against_o be_v willing_a to_o join_v hearty_o with_o you_o therein_o and_o desire_v in_o all_o humble_a and_o deep_a sense_n of_o my_o own_o weak_a and_o slender_a apprehension_n to_o esteem_v and_o honour_v all_o good_a people_n whatsoever_o whether_o they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o persuasion_n with_o myself_o or_o no_o either_o in_o this_o or_o any_o other_o matter_n for_o which_o reason_n i_o may_v with_o the_o great_a assurance_n desire_v of_o you_o the_o like_a measure_n again_o who_o be_o you_o etc._n etc._n finis_fw-la