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A85704 A treatise touching falling from grace. Or Thirteen arguments tending to prove that believers cannot fall from grace, as they were laid down at a conference at Yalding in Kent, examined and answered, with many absurdities of that doctrine shewed. Whereunto is added thirteen reasons to prove that believers may fall totally and finally from grace, and many profitable uses flowing from that doctrine. By John Griffith. Griffith, John, 1622?-1700. 1653 (1653) Wing G2006; Thomason E690_17; ESTC R202323 40,736 75

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