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A11532 A conference betvvixt a mother a devout recusant, and her sonne a zealous protestant seeking by humble and dutifull satisfaction to winne her vnto the trueth, and publike worship of god established nowe in England. Gathered by him whose hearts desire is, that all may come to the knowledge of God, and be saued.; Conference betwixt a mother a devout recusant, and her sonne a zealous protestant. Savage, Francis, d. 1638. 1600 (1600) STC 21781; ESTC S106433 62,438 140

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thy_o be_v enjoin_v and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o that_o be_v their_o fault_n not_o the_o magistrate_n so_o do_v god_n with_o jonas_n paul_n and_o other_o so_o say_v s_n augustin_n of_o his_o own_o cirtie_a fall_v to_o donatisme_n 17._o ug_n contr_n audience_n epitome_n l._n 2._o c._n 17._o that_o by_o outward_a law_n they_o be_v bring_v to_o inward_a knowledge_n and_o so_o he_o see_v the_o benefit_n of_o this_o course_n that_o the_o sword_n shall_v reign_v with_o the_o word_n although_o at_o first_o he_o say_v it_o be_v his_o opinion_n that_o none_o shall_v be_v compel_v before_o he_o be_v persuade_v and_o s_o chrysostome_n say_v multi_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la cùm_fw-la virtutem_fw-la primùm_fw-la respectu_fw-la magistratus_fw-la exercuerunt_fw-la post_v etiam_fw-la illam_fw-la propter_fw-la dei_fw-la timorem_fw-la amplectuntur_fw-la 13._o a_o spist_n ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d c._n 13._o many_o man_n whereas_o at_o first_o they_o be_v have_v themselves_o virtuous_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o for_o fear_n of_o punishment_n afterward_o do_v it_o glad_o even_o for_o fear_v of_o god_n and_o in_o reverence_n of_o his_o majesty_n we_o see_v the_o judgement_n of_o this_o holy_a father_n that_o compulsion_n by_o the_o magistrate_n be_v necessary_a and_o profitable_a though_o at_o first_o it_o procure_v but_o external_a obedience_n and_o his_o reason_n which_o follow_v be_v very_o good_a crassiores_fw-la enim_fw-la say_v he_o non_fw-la adeo_fw-la futura_fw-la tangunt_fw-la atque_fw-la praesentia_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la for_o carnal_a man_n be_v not_o so_o much_o touch_v with_o future_a as_o present_a thing_n that_o be_v as_o i_o understand_v he_o the_o torment_n of_o hell_n in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v do_v not_o so_o much_o prevail_v with_o they_o as_o the_o punishment_n of_o the_o magistrate_n present_o to_o be_v inflict_v upon_o they_o and_o that_o epistle_n of_o s._n augustin_n be_v most_o worthy_a often_o read_v his_o 48_o epistle_n m._n yet_o force_v religion_n please_v not_o god_n s._n sure_o it_o less_o displease_v with_o one_o part_n to_o do_v my_o duty_n then_o with_o both_o part_n to_o offend_v to_o come_v to_o church_n with_o my_o body_n where_o by_o god_n grace_n i_o may_v be_v catch_v as_o s._n augustin_n be_v at_o s._n ambrose_n his_o sermon_n then_o both_o with_o body_n and_o mind_n to_o disobey_v not_o only_a prince_n but_o god_n a_o part_n of_o my_o duty_n be_v something_o though_o it_o be_v not_o all_o m._n the_o magistrate_n can_v give_v faith_n therefore_o he_o shall_v not_o compel_v to_o faith_n s._n he_o do_v not_o compel_v to_o faith_n but_o to_o the_o mean_n whereby_o god_n use_v to_o give_v say_v namely_o to_o hear_v for_o faith_n come_v by_o hear_v and_o hear_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o how_o profitable_a it_o may_v be_v by_o god_n mercy_n have_v be_v already_o say_v and_o the_o word_n of_o david_n show_n when_o he_o say_v it_o be_v good_a for_o i_o that_o i_o have_v be_v in_o trouble_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o word_n of_o jeremy_n castigasti_fw-la &_o castigatus_fw-la sum_fw-la thou_o have_v chasten_v i_o and_o i_o have_v be_v chasten_v the_o word_n of_o esay_n vexatio_fw-la that_fw-mi intellectum_fw-la vexation_n and_o trouble_n work_n understanding_n the_o word_n of_o wise_a solomon_n dam_fw-la sapienti_fw-la occasionem_fw-la &_o sapientior_fw-la erit_fw-la give_v a_o wise_a man_n occasion_n and_o he_o will_v be_v wiser_n m._n why_o then_o do_v not_o christ_n compel_v any_o s._n christ_n be_v no_o magistrate_n and_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o what_o he_o may_v do_v by_o his_o office_n and_o authority_n give_v he_o by_o god_n m._n sure_o son_n great_a be_v truth_n and_o prevail_v i_o will_v trouble_v you_o no_o further_o in_o this_o matter_n s._n i_o will_v then_o dear_a mother_n shut_v it_o uppe_o with_o s._n augustin_n word_n to_o the_o donatist_n non_fw-la bene_fw-la facere_fw-la legibus_fw-la cogimini_fw-la sed_fw-la malè_fw-la facere_fw-la prohibemini_fw-la nam_fw-la bene_fw-la facere_fw-la nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la nisi_fw-la elegerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n you_o be_v not_o compel_v by_o law_n to_o do_v well_o but_o you_o be_v forbid_v and_o hinder_v to_o do_v evil_a for_o no_o man_n can_v do_v well_o unless_o he_o willing_o do_v it_o timor_fw-la autem_fw-la paenarun_v cisi_fw-la nondum_fw-la habeat_fw-la dilectionem_fw-la bonae_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la saltem_fw-la intra_fw-la claustra_fw-la cogitationis_fw-la coercet_fw-la malam_fw-la cupiditatem_fw-la and_o the_o fear_n of_o punishment_n although_o it_o have_v not_o as_o yet_o the_o love_n of_o good_a conscience_n yet_o at_o least_o it_o restrain_v evil_a within_o the_o hide_a cogitation_n numquid_fw-la quia_fw-la mores_fw-la optimi_fw-la libertate_fw-la voluntatis_fw-la eliguntur_fw-la 83._o contra_fw-la petil._n l._n 2._o c._n 83._o ideò_fw-la mores_fw-la pessimi_fw-la non_fw-la legis_fw-la integritate_fw-la puniuntur_fw-la because_o good_a manner_n be_v choose_v by_o freedom_n of_o will_n therefore_o be_v not_o ill_a manner_n punish_v