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A07799 A catholike appeale for Protestants, out of the confessions of the Romane doctors particularly answering the mis-named Catholike apologie for the Romane faith, out of the Protestants: manifesting the antiquitie of our religion, and satisfying all scrupulous obiections which haue bene vrged against it. Written by Th. Morton Doctor of Diuinitie. Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 18176; ESTC S115095 584,219 660

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