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A79488 A Christian plea for Christians baptisme: raised from the grave of apostasie. or, a short treatise, being a reproof of some things written by A. R. in his treatise, intituled, The vanitie of childish baptisme. In the answer whereof, the lawfulnesse of infants baptisme is defended, the sufficiency of our baptisme received in the state of apostasie, shewed: and the deficiencie of the arguments brought against it manifested, by sufficient grounds and reasons drawn from the sweet fountains of holy Scripture. / [by] S.C. Chidley, Samuel. 1643 (1643) Wing C3836; Thomason E104_2; ESTC R12174 34,699 39

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but the baptisme which is onely available to salvation is the answer of a good conscience toward God that is the baptisme indeed which saveth by the resurrection of Jesus Christ b 1 Pet. 3 21. Now he that hath his heart sprinkled with the blood of Christ he may fully assure himself that he shall be saved and so he is risen with Christ though he want the outward baptisme which you grant is nothing in comparison of Christ c In the second Treatise pa. 17. and so he having part in Christ who is the resurrection and the life d Joh. 11.25 he shall not be hurt with the second death Rev. 2.11 and 20.6 But this your dipping of the whole man all over in water you would have to hold forth not onely death and buriall but also a rising again and for this end you mention some words of the Apostle Paul Col. 2.12 Buried with him by baptisme wherein you are also risen with him c. Rom. 6.4.5 We are buried with him by baptisme into his death And if we have been planted together in the likenesse of his death we shall also in the likenesse of his resurrection And in 1. Cor. 15.29 St. Paul amongst other arguments to prove the resurrection hath these words What shall they do which are baptised for dead if the dead rise not at all why then are they baptised for dead Answ The first Scripture Col. 2.12 speaketh of a resurrection then present and the other Scriptures Rom. 6.5 1. Cor. 15.29 speake of a resurrection to come Now in the resurrection at the day of judgement the blind shall receive their sight * Rev. 1.7 Job 19.24 25 26.27 though the eyes which are the instrument of their sight are perished and though a person have lost his legs or his armes or any externall member of his body that is not superfluous yet he being not thereby killed is according to his capabilitie still to beleeve that all those breaches shall be made up in the resurrection now if you should happen to baptise such a one by dipping which hath such defects in nature as the want of his legs armes or eyes c. will you say that that baptisme setteth forth unto him no more but onely the raising of those externall parts which you then dip then you will have it to set forth a blind or lame resurrection But if you will say the baptisme he receiveth at your hands setteth forth the resurrection of all the parts both those parts that are missing and those parts that are not those members that are baptised and those members that are not baptised then the case is evident that the eminents part or parts of the body being baptised the said baptisme setteth forth the same benefit unto the rest of the members for in the resurrection if one member be had in honour all shall be had in honour For further explaining of the matter I put this ordinarie case unto you and desire you to consider thereof Suppose a man come unto you to be baptised and wanteth one or both of his legs arms eyes or other externall members what now is to be done in this case Peradventure you will say that you cannot baptise those members that are not to be found So say I too But what then if those members were or are to be found must you needs seek for those to baptise them with him You will say No! that would be a senslesse thing to baptise that which hath no more life in it then a stone I also affirm the same But what is further to be done will you proceed and baptise this beleever or leave him unbaptised You will say He is a beleever though he want his eyes legges armes c. and therefore he must be baptised though he want those externall members Yea but then I ask you whether you do not conceive that your baptisme is a buriall and a rising again and whether you do not beleeve that it setteth forth unto the lame man the resurrection of all his members as well as if all his members had been baptised I suppose you will say Why not there is no reason can be given to the contrarie considering that those members shall be raised with the body at the resurrection But then I desire you to remember this and beare in mind what will follow namely that baptisme setteth forth the resurrection of those externall members which were never baptised and therefore that which you esteeme to be no baptisme or but a baptising in part setteth forth the resurrection of the whole bodie and so totally of all the members thereof and belonging thereunto so that the face or eminents part of a man being baptised though the rest of the members are not wet with water yet this baptisme holdeth forth the resurrection of the whole body I meane not onely a spirituall resurrection but a translation of the naturall body into a spirituall body and this is the resurrection the Apostle speaketh of when he saith What shall they do that are baptised for the dead if the dead rise not at all why then are they baptised for dead 1. Cor. 15 9. Your conclusion of this point * Pa. 12. which is grounded upon a supposition I reject because it openly contradicteth the Scripture 1 Cor. 10.2.1 Pet. 3.27 Matth. 20.22 Luke 12.50 Isa 14.15 For you say that he that is not dipped is not baptised and that all those that have the administration of baptisme by sprinkling or by any washing without dipping are unbaptised Which I denie and that from the grounds before alledged remember I pray you how you urge the greatnesse of the quantitie of the element to be of such necessitie to baptisme that except a person have so much wherein he may dip the whole man all over baptisme cannot be rightly administred upon him and so by your grounds not administred at all And this is one of the particulars by which you would disprove the baptisme in the Church of England Now though in the Church of England the manner of baptising is by sprinkling washing or powring the water upon the most eminent part of the subject which is there presented to be baptised yet in the Church of Rome and in some places of England and the dominions of Wales they have used and do use dipping of persons in the ordinance of baptisme which is a thing in respect of the manner pleasing unto you and therefore in this second particular not here excepted against by you for in striking at the manner you have in this touched nothing but onely their washing sprinkling or powring of water upon the partie whereon it is administred Your third ground or particular by which you labour * Pa. 12. at lin 26. to disprove the baptisme in the Church of England and make it to be of none effect is because of the Antichristian power authoritie and office of ministery by which it is administred and so