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A52471 To all people that speakes of an outvvard baptisme; dippers, sprinklers, and others Also the errors answered, holden forth by Thomas Larkham, called by the world a minister, at VVe[x]ford he was then with a reproofe to the offenders; and also some queries to all people to be read within that yee may all know that, that which may bee knowne of God is manifest within; Rom: 1: 19... From a friend to all that breath after jesus; known to the world by the name Humphry Norton; though amongst the scorners called a Qvaker. Norton, Humphrey, fl. 1655-1659. 1659 (1659) Wing N1312A; ESTC R222710 13,342 16

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TO ALL PEOPLE THAT SPEAKES OF AN OVTVVARD BAPTISME DIPPERS SPRINKLERS AND OTHERS Also the Errors answered holden forth by THOMAS LARKHAM Called by the World a Minister at VVexford he was then With a reproofe to the Offenders And also some Que●ries to all people to be read within that yee may all know that That which may bee knowne of God is manifest within Rom 1 19. WE are the Circumcision which worship God in the Spirit rejoyce in Christ Jesus and have no confidence in the flesh Phillipians 3 3. For he is not a Jew which is one outwardly neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the flesh but he is a Jew which is one inwardly and Circumcision is that of the heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose praise is not of men but of God Rom 2 28 29. FRom a friend to all that breath after JESUS known to the world by the Name Humphry Norton Though amongst the Scorners called a QVAKER WE are the Circumcision which worship God in the Spirit and rejoyce in Christ Jesus and have noe confidence in the flesh Phillipians 3 3. For he is not a Jew which is one outwardly neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the flesh but he is a Jew which is one inwardly Circūcision is that of the heart in the Spirit not in the letter whose praise is not of men but of God Rom. 2 28 29. To all you every where that goes under the Name of Baptists Dippers Sprinklers and others to the Light in all your consciences I speake let it answer which shews you that you are washing your selves remember the Scribes and Pharisees who were compared to the Cup and Platter washing the out-side but inwardly were Ravening Woolues you wash your selves one washing another And you all dishonour Christ and will neither come to him your selves nor suffer others and except he wash you yee have noe part in him Therfore I say leave that selfe washing take up the Cross to your selves that selfe may be crucified all selfe selfe Righteousness washed away That the washing and renewing and regenerating of the holy Ghost yee may know and witness as Paul did who laboured to bring people to the same and Peter and Iohn they were Baptized with the Holy Ghost so that the chief Priests and Scribes and Pharisees tooke knowledge of them that they had been with Christ after that he was Sacrifised up And Aquilla and Priscilla who taught Appollos a more perfect way then Iohns Baptisme Acts 4 8 13. and Acts 18 25 26. for that must decrease as saith Iohn I must decrease he must increase Iohn 3 30. all that stands in water Baptisme you are not come to the increase which hath noe end nor to the more perfect way to wit Christ Jesus who saith I am the way Iohn 14 6. which Aquilla Priscilla taught Appollas although he were an Elequent man And Paul knew a more perfect Baptisme then that with water when he thanked God that he Baptized none of them save Crispus and Gaius c. For he was not sent to Baptize but to Preach 1 Cor. 1 14 15 16 17. And Paul did the worke given him to finish and brought many up to perfection and shewed them a more perfect way then carnall things to wit Christ Iesus the sure foundation into which the Isralits were Baptized eate dranke of the same Rocke 1 Cor 2 6. 1 Cor 10 23 4 5. Come now yee that pleads and Preaches up water Baptisme let us reason together where is the cloud yee were Baptized into is it yet removed where is the Sea you passed through which shall be noe more know yee such a thing where is the Death witnessed and Repentance and Remission of Sin amongst you To that of God in all your Consciences I appeale have not you water Baptized people yet to repent when you are Quiet in spirit is not your Sins brought fresh against you committed before you were Baptized are you not yet living in Sin you are not yet Dead with Christ nor your old man is not yet crucified nor the body of Sin is not destroyed Rom 6 6 7 that henceforth you should not serve it but come to our Baptisme and henceforth you shall not serve Sin for being Dead with Christ we are freed from Sin as saith the Scripture he that is dead is freed from Sin but yee your selves are alive making a fair shew in the flesh and would constraine others to be Baptized that you might Glory in their flesh least you and they should suffer persecution for the Cross of Christ c. Gall 6 from 12 to the end I say this is fleshly Glory the Jew outward and the Circumcision that availeth not being Strangers to the life of God to the Jew inward and the Circumcision of the heart with the Spirit of the living God which is only witnessed through the Cross of Christ And the pure water whereby the Conscience is sprinkl'd from dead workes the answer returned thou art good but while you live in Pride and Covetousness Lusts and uncleanness a pure Conscience you know not nor nothing that pure is the light in your consciences is my witness wch will manifest unto you that outward water nor noe outward thing can take away one sin Therefore take warning yee selfe washers you dishonor God whilst in these things you stand which cannot perfect as pertaining to the conscience Heb 9 9 10 But stand not there for you cannot satisfie that of God in your consciences with an Imitation from the Letter and with telling how Phillip Baptized the Eunuch it were well for you if you could see your selves in the Eunuchs condition that you have the Scriptures and understand not what you read Acts 8 from 30 to the end but from simplicity of heart would confess as he did for in plainnes you understand not the Scriptures nor the powr of God who tells of being Baptized and are yet alive in your sins And hath to repent after you are Baptized for which in Scripture you have neither presept nor example but Phillip shewed the Eunuch from that Scripture an example Christ how he was lead like a Lamb and his life was taken up from the Earth c See if it be so with you that you are taken up with him from the Earth and all earthly things for untill you come to know Christ to Guide you and Lead you to be Baptized you have not learned the Doctrin of Baptisme Heb 6 2. for all men come unto him Iohn 3. 6. Then will you see that which lead the Eunuch to be Baptized And that also which caught Phillip away from Baptizing was carryed forth to preach through the Cities The same spirit caught Paul from Baptizing And made him thanke God that he Baptized none of them save Crispus and Gaius c. For he was not sent to Baptize but to Preach and
would be done unto then the members of the Church of the first born you will know which will not nor cannot harm one the other but are Knit and United and joyntly and fully compacted and built together a spirituall house where the spirituall man to wit Christ Jesus Dwells Leads Guids and Rules and therein is the peace withnessed which passeth understanding and the Faith unfeaigned And the Love which is stronger then Death in the Church undefiled which he hath purchased with his Blood Eph. 5. 25. THOMAS LARKHAMS Erors called by the world a Minister First THat he hath not the Infalible spirit second that sin is nothing Answer GOD is a spirit infalible he that hath not his spirit is none of his Rom. 8. 9. So that out of thine own mouth thou art Judged to be none of his having before many people denyed the Lord And thy selfe Antichrist for he that is not with him is against him And such saith sin is nothing for which Christ suffered the just for the unjust and incourages the wicked and saith Sin is nothing then hast thou nothing to Preach against Silence for shame and let thy mouth be stopt hath God given his Son a Ransome for nothing hath all the Saints declared against nothing was the coming of Christ for the destructiō of nothing was it not to destroy the workes of the Devill And all Sin is of him herein thou hast fulfilled the Scripture Fools makes a mock of Sin Prov. 14. 9. Now is the day wherin the Worlds Teachers is made manifest and the blindness and wickedness of their hearts laid open which hath taken Tythes or money one or both pretended to Preach against Sin and now in plain words saith that it is nothing and then have they taken your money all this time for nothing as that of God in your Consciences will me witness that nothing have they done for you that is good for all the Sin that can be mentioned are you living in and they in the like and such was never sent of God for he sent holy Men and they spoke against all Sin and said he that committed it is of the Devill 1. Iohn 3 8. And so say we and herein is the Children of God known srō the Children of the Devill who faith Sin is nothing then may you live as you list for shame can the Ranters vent filthyer things then these be awarned and follow them noe longer but minde the Light wherewith you are enlighned and it will bring you to see the Vanity of all the world and their Teachers and with us to testifie against them And be sure I warne you all in the presence of the living God Listen not to fleshly Liberty for it is Egiptian bondage and leads to utter darkness forevermore Thirdly He affirmed that the Devill is in the Church of Order Answer The Church is in God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Thes 11. And to that of God in all your Consciences I appeale if there can be a greater Blasphemer then this Man Is the Devill in God I say the Church is in God where thou and the Devill cannot come nor none who are not guided by the infalible Spirit for God is pure and without spot or wrinkle and so is his Church Eph. 5. 27. But thou denying Gods Spirit which is infalible is given up to Blaspheme the Lord Bitter is thy Portion thinke upon it in thy bed of Sorrowes Fourthly He saith also that there is no Perfection in the World Answer Again he hath denyed the Doctrin of Christ Math. 5. 48. and the worke of the Ministry which is for the perfecting of the Saints Eph. 4. 13. Coll. 1. 27. 28. And excluds all for coming into the Kingdome of heaven where nothing that is imperfect can come for none that is out of Christ can enter into the Kingdome of heaven and they that are in Christ are in perfection therefore let the honest hearted Judge with that of God in you all And if he knew but a Bridle to his Blasphemous Tongue and Lips he would then know that which makes a perfect Man Iames 3. 2. and 14. And brings to know Faith which is perfect 'till then your hearing is vaine as it hath been to this day in hearing such as have not the spirit of God which is infalible by which all the Sons of God were guided Rom. 8. 14. And so your Leaders cause you to err and they that are lead of them are dostroyed Isaiah 9 16. And the fruits of his Lips was bitternes and cursing Foole and Asse yea he said he would curse us in the name of the Lord and had denyed the infalible spirit and herein is his confusion manifested And whereas he accused us for denying Christs Merits I say that which can be Merited is of selfe And that which is of Christ is freely given but such a word is not in Scripture as Christs Merits but is sercht from the Whore at Rrome by them And also charged us with denying that Christ that dyed at Jerusalem which is falce and many such things as are not worth mentioning unto which I answer noe other Christ we owne but him who is the only begoten Son of God full of grace and truth the brightness of his glory the express Jurage of his person Heb. 1 3 and 7. Who witnessed a good Confession before Pontius Pilate 1 Tim 6 13. And was Crucified where it is called spiritually Sodam and Egipt Revel 11 8. And suffered the reproach of Sinuers the leaders of which was the Chief Priests which hired Judas read they example Math 26 14 15. Math. 28 11 12. who denyes the infalible Spirit denyes both the Father and the Son concludes thy selfe a Reprobate and a Blasphemer thou art out of thine owne mouth Judged and for the sake of the simple this we declare give forth under our hands Humphry Norton William Shame A Reproofe to the Offenders VVHoremongers and Addulterers God will Judge Heb. 13. 4. Search the Scriptures your whorish heauts is gon from God and you are become the worst of all Creatures for they by Nature doth but their kinde but you being departed from the living God and out of the Covenant of Grace are become abusers of your selves with menkind the Lord God abhors a whorish Woman for she is like to a deep Ditch and a strange Woman is like to a narrow pit their hearts are as snares and netts and their hands as bands who so pleaseth God shall escape from her but the Sinner shall be takne by her Prov. 23 27. Eccle 7 26 all in whom there is any fear of God minde this for going out of the fear of God you joyne with Harlots untill your hearts be hardned and the Devill seazed upon it and your sences and then are you laid as waste then doth the Lord God suffer Satan to set you in fire Soule and body and so consume you and your lusts