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A47535 Gold refin'd, or, Baptism in its primitive purity proving baptism in water an holy institution of Jesus Christ ... : wherein it is clearly evinced that baptism ... is immersion, or dipping the whole body, &c : also that believers are only the true subjects (and not infants) of that holy sacrament : likewise Mr. Smythies arguments for infant-baptism in his late book entitled, The non-communicant ... fully answered / by Benj. Keach ... Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704. 1689 (1689) Wing K68; ESTC R17190 114,897 272

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those Anabaptists were very ill Men and guilty of several immoral Actions and held great Errors yet how unreasonable and uncharitable a thing is it to render all those People of that Perswasion in those times and also since to be as bad and as like guilty especially considering that the Principle and Practice of baptizing believing Men and Women in it self is so harmless a thing and no ways tends to lead Persons to such Evils For by the same Rule might not the best and most holy Church and People in the World or ever were in the World be censured and reproached and neither the Church of the Jews nor the Gospel-Church in the Apostles days escape sith in the first there were very ill Persons as Chora Dathan and Abiram and many others and in the last a Judas a Diatrophes an incestuous Person who was guilty of worse or more shameful Fornication then what was amongst the Gentiles as the Apostle affirms Besides as Mr. Danvers observes those of the same Opinion in former times are acknowledged to be godly and good Men or have an honourable Character given them and this too by the ample and authentick Testimony from their greatest Enemies he cites Rai●trus the Bloody Inquisitor of those in France and Baronius and Cassander of those in Germany nay and Mr. Baxter● himself who though he has been found free enough in his Reproaches yet to give him his due is pleased to witness to our Innocency in this Nation take his own words saith he That Anabaptists are godly Men that differ from us in a Point so difficult that many of the Papists and Prelatists have maintain'd that it is not determined in the Scripture but dependeth upon Tradition of the Church And I know as good and sober Men of that Mind as of theirs who are most against them c. And again he saith that Augustin and many Children of Christians were baptized at Age and that the Controversie is of so great difficulty that if in all such cases none that differ be tolerated we may not live together in the World or Church but endlesly excommunicate or prosecute one another But blessed be God we need not the Testimony of Men having the Testimony of our own Consciences which is our rejoycing as the Apostle saith that in Simplicity and godly Sincerity not by fleshly Wisdom but by the Grace of God we have had our Conversation in the World. Tho there may be some of our Communion who may be under Guilt and gross Enormities and mistaken Principles and Notions to our great Grief and Sorrow as well as amongst other Communities of godly Christians but Charity will cover a multitude of Faults Object 8. But you lay too much stress upon Baptism Answ What some may do I know not but I am sure generally we lay no more stress upon it than we ought we say it is a Duty incumbent upon all Believers a holy Ordinance of Christ one of the great Sacraments of the New Testament and they that reject it do reject part of the Counsel of God. Yet we do not lay such stress upon it as some do upon Infant Baptism We do not say Men cannot be saved unless they be baptized provided they do not sin against their light and clear convictions of their own Consciences 'T is evident there are those who have asserted That Infants that die unbaptized shall not cannot be saved which certainly is abominable to affirm For were it our duty to baptize our Children yet can any think that the omission of our duty to them herein can exclude them the Kingdom of Heaven but 't is evident it is not required they are not the subjects of it Object 'T is no where said that Women received the Lords Supper yet 't is given to them Why may not Infants be Baptized as well tho there is nothing mentioned of their being Baptized in the Scripture Answ To this we Answer That there is ground enough from the Scripture for Women who are baptized Believers to receive the Lord's Supper Let a Man examine himfelf and so let him eat saith the Apostle viz. Man or Woman For so the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifies There is one Mediator between God and Man. Is not Woman as well as Man intended there If there come into your Assembly a Man having a Gold Ring c. A double-minded Man is unstable in all his ways Are not Women as well as Men comprehended and meant in those places as well as Men tho not expressed 2. Were not Women as well as Men who believed Baptized Were not Women Disciples and commanded to be made discipline by the preaching of the Gospel in the Commission as well as Men And are not Males and Femals all o●● in Christ Jesus Is not this a meer trifling Vanity and nought but a piece of Foolery and Deceit to darken Counsel with words without Knowledg Women were Baptized we read of Lydia an honourable Woman that was Baptized And when they heard this 't is said they were baptized both Men and Women And they that were required to be Baptized and did partake of that Ordinance continued together in the Apostles Doctrine and in Fellowship and in breaking of Bread and Prayer This sufficiently proves Women received the Lord's Supper When shall we see the like proof for Babes Baptism Were not Women Members of the Chur●● and does not the Holy Supper belong to all ●●●●lar Members thereof This Objection seems to represent these Men like a person almost drown'd who catches hold of any little Twig or Flag to help him But Brethren these things will never do your business Object If we have no Scripture-Example to baptize Infants no more have you for the baptizing such Persons as you do baptize viz. those of Age whose Parents were baptized and educated from their Youth in the Christian Religion for evident it is those we read of in the New Testament who were baptized were such who were newly Converted either from Judaism or Paganism to Christianity Answ What tho we have no Example in the Scripture of any besides such you speak of that were baptized that ●eing the very beginning of that Gospel-Admini●●●ation yet is not the Commission a perfect Rule to succeeding Ages as well as it was to that present Age Evident it is that by virtue of the Commission none were to be baptized but such as are discipled or first taught before admitted to that Ordinance If the person be a Believer we have no ground to refuse him because his Parents were Jews or Heathens so we have no reason to receive others at all the more because their Parents were Christians 2. Can you prove that difference as to the state of the Parents in respect of what you speak of doth give you a warrantable ground to act contrary to the order and nature of the great Commission Matth. 28. 19 20. By the authority of which the Apostles