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A02182 Propositions containing answers to certaine demaunds in divers spirituall matters specially concerning the conscience oppressed with the griefe of sinne. With an epistle against hardnes of heat, made by that woorthie preacher of the Gospell of Christ, M. R. Greenham pastor of Drayton Greenham, Richard. 1597 (1597) STC 12323; ESTC S120335 28,959 82

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according to the portion of our temptation wee must also pray that the Lord giue not out that measure of leaue to the devill which we giue out to sinne to work rebellion in vs against his majestie but that hee would rather make Sathan a Surgeon to shewe vs our sinnes than Sergeant to confound vs for them It is the pollicie of the adversarie to perswade many that the weaknes of their bodie and feeblenes of their braine proceedeth of their temptations when indeed it commeth of their vnstaid minds wandering toe much after the motions of the devill in that they not resting on the word nor depending on Christ nor contenting themselues to be tryed nor comforting themselues by meditation attend toe much and conferre with the devils illusions and temptations being more greved for their present sufferings than for their sinnes past The roote of this wordly shame is pride and haughtines of minde which is a privie evill and hardly will be beaten into the heade of them that are infected with it but sure it is that we would neuer be so grieved for the losse of a thing if wee did not toe much desire it and toe immoderatlie vse it whilst wee had it Iohn 12. 42. Which sinne of haughtines the Lord seeing in his children that they are more humbled with the losse of worldly credit than with the sence of their sinnes and losse of his glory hee striketh them with the wante of that thing which is most pretious vnto them because they made no conscience of that honour which is most precious vnto him wherefore this is the best remedie rather to be greved that we feele not our sinnes to be pardoned with God than that we are knowne to be sinners amongst men and that we be readie to shame our selues that God may haue the glory acknowledging shame and confusion and the whole hell of temptations to be due vnto vs and glory praise and compassion to be the Lords for this is a speciall mark of the child of God by temptations rightly humbled when hee is ready to shame himselfe for his sinne and to glorifie God in his mercie 29 Vnto one that thought himselfe to haue sinned against the holy Ghost he said Sathans temptations followe our affections for if wee lightly account of sinne hee bleres our eies still with Gods mercies if we beginne to make a conscience of sin hee loadeth vs with the judgments of God being as ready now to aggravate the sin more than it is in it selfe as before he would extenuate it to make it seeme lesse than it was howbeit saide he to the man thus afflicted I wil say vnto you as Samuel said to the people after they had confessed themselues to haue sinned against God with a great sinne True it is said Samuel not flattering them in their iniquities Ye haue sinned greatlie notwithstanding if ye will feare the Lord and serue him and heare his voice and not disobey the worde of the Lord ye shall followe the Lord your God but if ye will not obey the voice of the Lord but disobey the Lords mouth then shall the hand of the Lord be vppon you 1. Sam. 12. 14. So I will not lessen your sin but I say you haue sinned with a greate sinne before the Lord in that you made a mock of the worde which you knewe yet if you turne to the Lord in feare and serue him your sinne is remissable howsoever Sathan charges your conscience in that you haue done evill against your owne knowledge and in that you are affraide lest that sinne be in you and wold rejoyce in God if it were not in you If you purpose to leaue your former sinns and in trueth to turne vnto the Lord I dare assure you that as yet you are free from that sinne 30 When a gentlewoman asked him if hee were not sometimes merrie Yes saith he wee are often merry and sometimes we are afraide of our mirth 31 When we distrust of Gods promises let vs set before vs the example of his mercie done to others that wee may be the more assured to obtaine faith and when we begin to presume let vs set before vs the examples of Gods judgmēts that we may pray for humilitie 32 Being desired to giue his judgement of a waightie matter he answered Sir neither am I able to speak nor you to heare for that wee haue not praied indeed I may talk and you answer as naturall men but wee are not now prepared to conferre as the children of God 33 Wee may thus trie our mourning for the sinne of others First this sorrowe for sinne must be bred for our own sins and from our selues proceede to the sins of others Secondly the measure of our mourning must be agreable and proportionable to the sinnes Lastly our griefe must to be for the person that we be moued rather to pittie and praye for him than to hate or despise him 34 Vnto one that with many words disabled himselfe hee saide meekly oh why doe you seeke so much your owne praise for by this ye bewraie the privie corruption of nature that by toe open a dispraise desireth toe privie praise 35 It is not good to vse that for a dyet which is prescribed for Phisick for that will not work in the extraordinarie neede of the body which is vsed in the ordinarie cause of health 36 Seeing a godly man having his sonne in his armes whome hee loued tenderlie he said to him Sir there is the matter of your rejoycing God make it the matter of your thanks-giving 37 After one had asked his advise for sitting or kneeling at the Lords Table he said as for such things let vs doe asmuch as wee can for the peace of the Church lest wee make the remedie of the evill worse than the evill it selfe 38 To one that said he was possessed of a devill he answered as hoping that he was the child of God and rather deluded than afflicted True it is that in asmuch as lieth in you you haue given your selfe over to the devill but it is not in your power to giue over your selfe to him neither is it in his jurisdiction to possesse you 39 Hee rebuked publicklie a publick offence of a private man in this manner My brethren such a sinne hath passed from this place the guiltles neede not to be offended the person guiltie is to repent of it 40 Because God worketh the sence of sinne by degrees in his children hee suspected them who at every sinne named would shew themselues forthwith troubled 41 Many having escaped out of the gulfe of superstitions are toe deep plunged in prophanesse 42 Being asked howe a man might reprehend he answered First looke that you haue a ground out of the worde for reproving then look if it stand with your calling to reproue afterward consider if some other man may doe it more profitably than you then look before whome you reproue lest yee hinder the credit of