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i_o do_v offend_v he_o by_o the_o write_n of_o such_o a_o error_n to_o he_o though_o by_o himself_o entreat_v to_o express_v my_o judgement_n let_v he_o remember_v he_o plead_v for_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n i_o write_v my_o conscience_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n according_a to_o my_o conscience_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n why_o shall_v he_o punish_v i_o with_o open_a penance_n and_o expose_v i_o as_o much_o as_o in_o he_o lie_v before_o the_o world_n to_o open_a shame_n as_o a_o man_n of_o blood_n for_o the_o liberty_n of_o my_o conscience_n how_o will_v it_o stand_v with_o his_o own_o principle_n to_o plead_v for_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n and_o yet_o to_o punish_v it_o beside_o let_v he_o remember_v if_o i_o do_v offend_v he_o with_o such_o a_o error_n it_o be_v but_o a_o private_a offence_n and_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n require_v he_o shall_v first_o have_v convince_v and_o admonish_v i_o private_o of_o it_o and_o so_o have_v proceed_v upon_o my_o 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only_o against_o the_o creator_n of_o christian_a love_n which_o be_v wont_a to_o take_v even_o doubtful_a thing_n in_o the_o fair_a sense_n but_o even_o against_o the_o law_n of_o truth_n for_o in_o the_o whole_a purport_n of_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o letter_n both_o in_o state_v the_o question_n and_o in_o answer_v objection_n i_o express_o profess_v 1._o that_o no_o man_n be_v to_o be_v persecute_v at_o all_o much_o less_o for_o conscience_n sake_n because_o all_o persecution_n be_v oppression_n for_o righteousness_n sake_n 2._o i_o profess_v further_o that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v punish_v for_o his_o conscience_n sake_n though_o erroneous_a unless_o his_o error_n be_v fundamental_a or_o seditious_o and_o turbulent_o promote_v and_o that_o after_o due_a conviction_n of_o conscience_n that_o it_o may_v appear_v he_o be_v not_o punish_v for_o his_o conscience_n but_o for_o sin_v against_o his_o conscience_n thus_o while_o he_o plead_v for_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n he_o take_v liberty_n to_o his_o conscience_n open_o to_o publish_v that_o i_o do_v profess_o maintain_v persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n when_o i_o do_v in_o express_a term_n profess_o renounce_v it_o this_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n set_v the_o conscience_n at_o liberty_n calumniandi_fw-la audacter_fw-la object_n but_o it_o may_v be_v by_o consequence_n i_o do_v maintain_v persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n though_o in_o express_a term_n i_o profess_o renounce_v it_o ans_fw-fr 1._o what_o if_o such_o a_o thing_n may_v be_v infer_v by_o consequence_n man_n judgement_n and_o profession_n be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v up_o from_o every_o unwary_a consequence_n against_o their_o own_o positive_a and_o express_a declaration_n and_o profession_n it_o be_v just_o tax_v in_o bellarmine_n as_o a_o slanderous_a calumny_n that_o he_o bring_v in_o luther_n calvine_n martyr_n bucer_n make_v god_n the_o author_n of_o sin_n which_o all_o of_o they_o in_o express_a term_n do_v avoid_v yet_o he_o will_v fasten_v such_o a_o blasphemous_a tenet_n upon_o they_o forsooth_o by_o consequence_n in_o like_a sort_n by_o the_o like_a consequence_n be_v the_o bloody_a tenet_n fasten_v upon_o i_o when_o the_o eye_n be_v bloodshot_a or_o look_v through_o a_o red_a glass_n all_o thing_n about_o they_o will_v appear_v red_a and_o bloody_a but_o if_o this_o tenet_n have_v any_o appearance_n of_o blood_n in_o it_o it_o be_v because_o it_o be_v wash_v in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n and_o seal_v with_o his_o blood_n and_o then_o though_o it_o may_v seem_v bloody_a to_o man_n of_o corrupt_a mind_n destitute_a of_o the_o truth_n as_o paul_n seem_v to_o such_o to_o be_v a_o pestilent_a fellow_n yet_o to_o faithful_a and_o upright_a soul_n such_o thing_n as_o be_v wash_v in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n be_v wont_a to_o come_v forth_o white_a as_o do_v the_o follower_n of_o the_o lamb_n who_o wash_v their_o robe_n white_a in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n rev_n 7.14_o chap._n 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in_o conscience_n after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n and_o therefore_o such_o a_o person_n not_o be_v convince_v he_o be_v condemn_v of_o himself_o and_o may_v be_v persecute_v for_o sin_v against_o his_o conscience_n 4._o i_o observe_v here_o that_o mr._n cotton_n herein_o measure_v to_o other_o that_o which_o himself_o when_o he_o live_v in_o such_o practice_n will_v not_o have_v have_v measure_v to_o himself_o as_o 1._o that_o it_o may_v have_v be_v affirm_v of_o he_o that_o in_o such_o practice_n he_o do_v sin_n against_o his_o conscience_n have_v sufficient_a light_a shine_a about_o he_o 2._o that_o he_o shall_v or_o may_v have_v be_v cut_v off_o by_o death_n or_o banishment_n as_o a_o heretic_n sin_v against_o his_o conscience_n etc._n etc._n defender_n 1._o it_o need_v no_o inquiry_n what_o worship_n i_o mean_v whether_o church_n and_o minister_n or_o ministration_n of_o the_o word_n prayer_n seales_n etc._n etc._n for_o i_o mean_v none_o of_o these_o as_o they_o be_v 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and_o good_n of_o the_o subject_a as_o the_o spirituall-officer_n of_o christ_n city_n or_o kingdom_n have_v the_o charge_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o soule-safety_n defender_n reply_v 1_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o magistrate_n have_v charge_n only_o of_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o the_o subject_a yet_o that_o may_v just_o excite_v to_o watchfulness_n against_o such_o pollution_n of_o religion_n as_o tend_v to_o apostasy_n for_o if_o the_o church_n and_o people_n of_o god_n fall_v away_o from_o god_n god_n will_v visit_v the_o city_n and_o country_n with_o public_a calamity_n if_o not_o captivity_n for_o the_o church_n sake_n the_o idolatry_n and_o image-worship_n of_o christian_n bring_v in_o the_o turkish_a captivity_n upon_o the_o city_n and_o country_n of_o asia_n and_o upon_o some_o of_o europe_n also_o as_o have_v be_v show_v above_o reply_v 2._o it_o be_v a_o carnal_a and_o worldly_a and_o indeed_o a_o ungodly_a imagination_n to_o confine_v the_o magistrate_n 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chap._n discusser_n to_o batter_v and_o take_v a_o strong_a hold_n or_o fort_n man_n bring_v not_o a_o first_o and_o second_o admonition_n and_o after_o obstinacy_n excommunication_n but_o they_o bring_v canon_n culvering_n saker_n bullet_n powder_n musket_n sword_n pike_n weapon_n suitable_a and_o proportionable_a on_o the_o other_o side_n to_o batter_v down_o idolatry_n false_a worship_n heresy_n out_o of_o the_o soul_n and_o spirit_n it_o be_v vain_a improper_a unsuitable_a to_o bring_v the_o usual_a weapon_n of_o persecutor_n stock_n whip_n prison_n sword_n gibbtts_n stake_n but_o against_o these_o spiritual_a sirong_n hold_v in_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n spiritual_a artillery_n and_o weapon_n be_v proper_a and_o mighty_a through_o god_n to_o subdue_v every_o thought_n to_o obedience_n defender_n let_v this_o stand_n as_o it_o shall_v for_o i_o it_o nothing_o touch_v the_o question_n in_o hand_n it_o be_v far_o from_o i_o to_o allow_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o make_v use_n 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and_o to_o mortify_v the_o flesh_n of_o offender_n yet_o that_o be_v not_o supersedeas_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o neglect_v to_o punish_v those_o sin_n which_o the_o church_n have_v censure_v if_o the_o person_n censure_v do_v proceed_v to_o subvert_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o people_n the_o rest_n of_o the_o discusser_n discourse_n in_o this_o chapter_n be_v as_o judas_n speak_v cloud_n without_o water_n word_n without_o matter_n chap._n 46._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 46._o discuss_v rom._n 13._o discusser_n this_o scripture_n rom._n 13._o which_o it_o please_v the_o answerer_n to_o quote_v how_o have_v both_o himself_o and_o many_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n wrest_v not_o as_o peter_n write_v of_o the_o wicked_a to_o their_o eternal_a yet_o to_o their_o own_o and_o other_o tempor_n all_o destruction_n by_o civil_a war_n and_o combustion_n in_o the_o world_n defender_n this_o 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but_o will_v it_o thence_o follow_v that_o therefore_o minister_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o matter_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o church_n or_o parent_n in_o the_o family_n chap._n 47._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 47._o discusser_n there_o be_v excellent_a and_o precious_a servant_n of_o god_n in_o their_o time_n who_o have_v absolute_o deny_v the_o 13._o of_o the_o rom._n to_o concern_v any_o matter_n of_o the_o first_o table_n defender_n i_o will_v not_o stand_v upon_o the_o last_o use_n in_o that_o chapter_n put_v you_o on_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n which_o i_o hope_v the_o discusser_n himself_o will_v not_o deny_v much_o less_o say_v that_o any_o excellent_a and_o precious_a servant_n of_o god_n do_v absolute_o deny_v that_o such_o a_o duty_n concern_v the_o first_o table_n but_o what_o be_v it_o that_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n say_v discusser_n calvin_n say_v this_o whole_a discourse_n concern_v civil_a magistrate_n and_o therefore_o in_o vain_a do_v they_o who_o exereise_v power_n over_o conscience_n go_v about_o from_o this_o place_n to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n defender_n calvin_n judgement_n herein_o as_o general_o in_o other_o point_n be_v sound_a and_o agreeable_a to_o the_o text_n but_o not_o at_o all_o favour_v the_o discusser_n imagination_n this_o whole_a disputation_n say_v he_o be_v of_o civil_a government_n whereupon_o this_o inference_n be_v according_a to_o his_o own_o true_a meaning_n and_o scope_n therefore_o it_o do_v nor_o concern_n church-government_n therefore_o such_o church-governor_n as_o upon_o pretence_n of_o this_o text_n do_v make_v law_n without_o the_o word_n and_o beside_o the_o word_n to_o bind_v conscience_n and_o to_o usurp_v power_n over_o conscience_n they_o in_o vain_a go_v about_o to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n from_o this_o place_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n church-governor_n
under_o they_o but_o they_o all_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n yea_o most_o averse_a and_o opposite_a yea_o cruel_a and_o bloody_a persecutor_n of_o the_o name_n and_o follower_n of_o jesus_n and_o yet_o unto_o these_o be_v subjection_n command_v now_o than_o i_o argue_v if_o paul_n have_v command_v this_o subjection_n to_o roman_a magistrate_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n to_o defend_v the_o truth_n to_o punish_v heretic_n neither_o of_o which_o they_o can_v discern_v nor_o judge_v of_o but_o by_o trust_n from_o other_o as_o pilate_n condemn_v jesus_n he_o must_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n have_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o defender_n not_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n for_o beside_o calvin_n and_o beza_n who_o judgement_n you_o have_v hear_v all_o those_o interpreter_n who_o expound_v this_o place_n in_o the_o roman_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o punish_v spiritual_a evil_a doer_n as_o well_o as_o corporal_a they_o none_o of_o they_o do_v so_o judge_v that_o paul_n in_o command_v the_o church_n to_o yield_v subjection_n unto_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n do_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o for_o first_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o yield_v subjection_n to_o the_o unrighteous_a decree_n of_o ignorant_a and_o pagan_a magistrate_n another_o thing_n to_o obey_v their_o ordinance_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o worship_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n the_o former_a of_o these_o christian_n do_v yield_v unto_o the_o roman_a magistrate_n even_o subjection_n unto_o the_o death_n the_o other_o they_o neither_o do_v nor_o aught_o to_o yield_v as_o know_v god_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v rather_o than_o man_n second_o though_o it_o be_v true_a whilst_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o magistrate_n be_v pagan_n and_o persecutor_n they_o be_v incompetent_a judge_n to_o discern_v and_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o spiritual_a matter_n of_o christian_a religion_n yet_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n who_o command_v a_o duty_n command_v all_o the_o necessary_a mean_n which_o tend_v to_o that_o duty_n and_o therefore_o in_o give_v they_o a_o power_n and_o charge_n to_o execute_v vengeance_n on_o evil_a doer_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o spiritual_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o church_n as_o in_o matter_n of_o civil_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o behove_v they_o to_o inquire_v and_o listen_v after_o true_a religion_n to_o hear_v and_o try_v all_o and_o upon_o serious_a deliberate_a and_o just_a scrute_v to_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o so_o prevent_v the_o disturbance_n thereof_o by_o the_o contrary_n it_o be_v no_o vain_a charge_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n psal_n 2_o 10_o 11_o 12._o if_o christ_n have_v a_o iron_n sceptre_n in_o his_o hand_n to_o crush_v all_o state_n and_o kingdom_n emperor_n and_o prince_n as_o well_o as_o private_a person_n be_v wise_a now_o therefore_o o_o you_o king_n be_v instruct_v you_o that_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o earth_n serve_v the_o lord_n with_o fear_n rejoice_v unto_o he_o with_o tremble_v kiss_v the_o son_n lest_o he_o be_v angry_a and_o you_o perish_v in_o the_o way_n three_o the_o case_n of_o religion_n wherein_o we_o allow_v civil_a magistrate_n to_o be_v judge_n be_v so_o fundamental_a and_o palpable_a that_o no_o magistrate_n studious_a of_o religion_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n but_o if_o he_o have_v any_o spiritual_a discern_a as_o all_o true_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v and_o even_o pagan_n have_v discern_v between_o innocent_a christian_n and_o turbulent_a seducer_n he_o can_v but_o judge_v of_o such_o gross_a corruption_n as_o be_v unsufferable_a in_o religion_n as_o have_v be_v open_v above_o though_o we_o reserve_v to_o the_o prophet_n and_o church_n judicium_fw-la propheticum_fw-la as_o have_v be_v say_v above_o yet_o we_o allow_v judicium_fw-la politicum_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n studious_a of_o truth_n as_o all_o aught_o to_o be_v and_o the_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n unto_o all_o christian_n but_o as_o for_o such_o magigistrate_n as_o be_v mere_o natural_a and_o pagan_a though_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o they_o with_o patience_n yet_o such_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o forbear_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n either_o in_o protect_v or_o punish_v matter_n of_o religion_n till_o they_o have_v learn_v so_o much_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n as_o may_v enable_v they_o to_o discern_v of_o thing_n that_o differ_v but_o this_o forbearance_n of_o they_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n in_o their_o calling_n nor_o for_o want_v of_o duty_n in_o their_o conscience_n but_o for_o want_v of_o evidence_n to_o they_o in_o the_o cause_n in_o which_o case_n magistrate_n be_v wont_a to_o forbear_v their_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n and_o to_o respite_n judgement_n even_o in_o civil_a cause_n not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n or_o duty_n to_o do_v justice_n but_o for_o want_v of_o ripe_a and_o full_a cognizance_n of_o the_o cause_n chap._n 49._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 49._o discusser_n why_o then_o do_v paul_n himself_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n act_n 25._o unless_o that_o caesar_n though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o yet_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fit_a judge_n in_o such_o matter_n answ_n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n not_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o his_o religion_n but_o to_o defend_v he_o from_o civil_a violence_n and_o slanderous_a accusation_n about_o sedition_n mutiny_n civil_a disobedience_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o caesar_n as_o a_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o defend_v he_o defender_n this_o appeal_n of_o paul_n to_o caesar_n do_v evident_o hold_v forth_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a and_o needful_a use_n of_o civil_a magistracy_n unto_o christian_n 2._o that_o church_n officer_n even_o of_o high_a rank_n the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o other_o minister_n be_v subject_a to_o civil_a authority_n as_o well_o as_o private_a christian_n 3._o that_o paul_n do_v submit_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seate_n the_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o in_o civil_a conversation_n for_o he_o plead_v his_o innocency_n that_o he_o be_v guilty_a in_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o and_o for_o trial_n hereof_o he_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 11._o now_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o be_v offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n as_o well_o as_o against_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 8._o and_o offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n be_v matter_n of_o religion_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o these_o paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seat_n for_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n discusser_n but_o if_o paul_n in_o this_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n have_v submit_v his_o religion_n which_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o christ_n his_o ministry_n and_o ministration_n to_o the_o roman_a emperor_n tribunal_n he_o have_v sin_v first_o against_o the_o light_n of_o reason_n second_o against_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n three_o against_o the_o holy_a call_v of_o a_o christian_n four_o against_o his_o own_o call_n of_o apostleship_n five_o against_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n defender_n all_o these_o sin_n may_v with_o some_o colour_n have_v be_v charge_v upon_o paul_n if_o he_o have_v appeal_v to_o caesar_n to_o judge_n whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v of_o god_n or_o no._n but_o that_o be_v no_o point_n of_o his_o appeal_v but_o whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v guilty_a of_o any_o capital_a crime_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n or_o against_o the_o temple_n or_o against_o caesar_n now_o in_o this_o case_n paul_n may_v safe_o appeal_v to_o 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according_a to_o their_o conscience_n and_o belief_n and_o constrain_v they_o to_o such_o worship_n which_o their_o own_o soul_n tell_v they_o they_o have_v no_o satisfaction_n nor_o faith_n in_o 1._o it_o be_v a_o untruth_n that_o either_o we_o restrain_v man_n from_o worship_n according_a to_o conscience_n or_o constrain_v they_o to_o worship_n against_o conscience_n or_o that_o such_o be_v my_o tenent_n and_o practice_n 2._o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o we_o do_v both_o yet_o this_o do_v not_o make_v law_n to_o bind_v conscience_n but_o the_o outward_a man_n only_o nor_o will_v we_o think_v it_o meet_v to_o bind_v the_o ontward_a man_n against_o conscience_n discusser_n again_o where_o as_o the_o answerer_n affirm_v that_o man_n may_v make_v law_n to_o see_v the_o law_n of_o god_n observe_v i_o answer_v as_o god_n need_v not_o the_o help_n of_o a_o material_a sword_n of_o steel_n to_o assist_v the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o the_o affair_n of_o conscience_n so_o those_o 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religion_n that_o either_o themselves_o or_o the_o commonwealth_n that_o choose_v they_o must_v needs_o have_v power_n and_o authority_n from_o christ_n to_o sit_v judge_n and_o to_o determine_v in_o all_o great_a controversy_n of_o religion_n in_o doctrine_n discipline_n and_o government_n it_o be_v enough_o that_o they_o be_v call_v of_o god_n to_o be_v wise_a and_o learned_a in_o the_o service_n of_o christ_n and_o in_o the_o way_n of_o his_o kingdom_n psal_n 2.10_o 11_o 12._o which_o if_o they_o have_v learn_v they_o ought_v to_o rule_v with_o he_o and_o for_o he_o or_o else_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v fulfil_v which_o be_v write_v of_o they_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n be_v become_v the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o of_o his_o christ_n and_o he_o shall_v reign_v for_o ever_o rev._n 7.15_o yea_o in_o this_o case_n it_o be_v learning_n enough_o if_o they_o know_v the_o principle_n and_o foundation_n of_o religion_n and_o can_v discern_v the_o arrogancy_n of_o a_o tumultuous_a spirit_n after_o conviction_n for_o such_o want_v not_o judgement_n to_o censure_v apostasy_n to_o heresy_n in_o doctrine_n to_o idolatry_n in_o worship_n to_o tyranny_n in_o government_n discusser_n but_o then_o i_o ask_v whether_o upon_o this_o ground_n it_o must_v not_o evident_o follow_v that_o then_o either_o there_o be_v no_o commonwealth_n nor_o civil_a state_n of_o man_n in_o the_o world_n that_o be_v not_o qualify_v with_o this_o discern_a and_o then_o the_o commonwealth_n have_v more_o light_a concern_v the_o church_n than_o the_o church_n itself_o or_o that_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o magistrate_n thereof_o must_v judge_v and_o punish_v as_o they_o be_v persuade_v in_o their_o own_o belief_n and_o conscience_n be_v their_o conscience_n paganish_v turkish_a or_o antichristian_a and_o what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o confound_v heaven_n and_o earth_n together_o and_o to_o take_v away_o not_o only_o the_o be_v of_o christianity_n out_o of_o the_o world_n but_o all_o civility_n yea_o the_o world_n out_o of_o the_o world_n and_o to_o lay_v all_o upon_o heap_n of_o confusion_n defender_n see_v what_o strange_a effect_n a_o strong_a fancy_n can_v produce_v will_v you_o not_o think_v it_o must_v be_v some_o strange_a and_o strong_a paradox_n that_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v shall_v produce_v such_o strange_a and_o strong_a effect_n as_o to_o take_v away_o the_o be_v of_o christianity_n out_o of_o the_o world_n yea_o and_o all_o civility_n yea_o and_o the_o world_n out_o of_o the_o world_n but_o when_o man_n have_v sleep_v a_o while_n and_o strong_a fancy_n be_v evaporate_v the_o world_n will_v stand_v where_o it_o be_v and_o civility_n stand_v in_o the_o world_n and_o christianity_n in_o civility_n i_o say_v therefore_o that_o which_o no_o sober_a mind_n can_v contradict_v that_o though_o magistrate_n be_v bind_v to_o become_v wise_a and_o learned_a to_o know_v christ_n and_o to_o establish_v the_o religion_n of_o christ_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o as_o the_o discusser_n say_v evident_o follow_v no_o nor_o follow_v at_o all_o that_o then_o there_o be_v no_o law_n full_a commonwealth_n nor_o civil_a state_n of_o man_n in_o the_o world_n which_o be_v not_o qualify_v with_o this_o spiritual_a discern_v for_o though_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o civil_a state_n thus_o to_o be_v qualify_v yet_o their_o want_n of_o such_o qualification_n do_v not_o make_v they_o unlawful_a state_n many_o due_a qualification_n be_v require_v in_o husband_n wife_n child_n servant_n magistrate_n church_n the_o want_n of_o which_o make_v they_o defective_a and_o sinful_a but_o do_v not_o make_v they_o unlawful_a this_o will_v need_v no_o proof_n to_o any_o sober_a mind_n muchlesse_a will_v it_o follow_v upon_o the_o former_a premise_n that_o the_o very_a commonwealth_n have_v then_o more_o light_a concern_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n than_o the_o church_n itself_o for_o it_o be_v a_o weak_a church_n that_o know_v no_o more_o light_n than_o principle_n and_o what_o light_n the_o commonwealth_n have_v it_o may_v have_v receive_v from_o the_o church_n howsoever_o the_o magistrate_n power_n to_o establish_v the_o religion_n of_o christ_n do_v no_o way_n infer_v that_o he_o that_o establish_v that_o religion_n which_o be_v profess_v in_o the_o church_n have_v more_o light_a concern_v that_o religion_n or_o any_o part_n of_o it_o than_o the_o church_n itself_o albeit_o it_o be_v not_o impossible_a nor_o be_v it_o absurd_a that_o sometime_o the_o magistrate_n may_v have_v more_o light_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n than_o the_o church_n itself_o david_n for_o aught_o we_o read_v be_v the_o first_o that_o discern_v the_o disorder_n in_o cart_v the_o ark_n of_o god_n 1_o chron._n 15.2_o and_o hezekiah_n be_v the_o first_o that_o prevent_v the_o priest_n and_o levit_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o the_o work_n of_o reformation_n from_o the_o apostasy_n of_o ahaz_n 2_o chron._n 29.4_o to_o 11._o but_o there_o be_v no_o colour_n of_o consequence_n that_o because_o magistrate_n be_v bind_v to_o discern_v and_o know_v the_o will_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o serve_v he_o with_o their_o power_n that_o therefore_o such_o as_o have_v no_o discern_v of_o christ_n nor_o of_o his_o holy_a will_n that_o they_o shall_v punish_v and_o destroy_v christ_n and_o christian_n and_o seek_v only_o to_o advance_v their_o own_o religion_n which_o be_v but_o idolatry_n and_o superstition_n chap._n 70._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 73._o discuss_v the_o testimony_n of_o luther_n discusser_n luthers_n testimony_n say_v the_o answerer_n reach_v to_o two_o thing_n neither_o of_o which_o we_o deny_v first_o that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n reach_v no_o further_o then_o to_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o their_o subject_n not_o over_o their_o soul_n and_o therefore_o they_o may_v not_o undertake_v to_o give_v law_n
which_o abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o god_n the_o judge_n of_o all_o the_o earth_n think_v equal_a gen._n 18.25_o that_o the_o righteous_a shall_v not_o be_v as_o the_o wicked_a nor_o that_o truth_n and_o fidelity_n shall_v suffer_v as_o heresy_n and_o apostasy_n discusser_n yea_o but_o it_o be_v not_o confidence_n of_o be_v in_o the_o truth_n which_o they_o judge_v the_o papist_n and_o other_o be_v not_o in_o no_o nor_o the_o truth_n itself_o that_o can_v privilege_v they_o to_o persecute_v other_o and_o to_o exempt_v themselves_o from_o persecution_n for_o three_o consideration_n first_o because_o it_o be_v against_o the_o nature_n of_o true_a sheep_n to_o persecute_v or_o hunt_v the_o beast_n of_o the_o forest_n no_o not_o the_o wolf_n who_o have_v persecute_v themselves_o defender_n it_o be_v a_o feeble_a kind_n of_o reason_v from_o a_o similitude_n in_o some_o thing_n to_o press_v a_o resemblance_n in_o every_o thing_n sheep_n do_v fit_o resemble_v christian_n in_o many_o propriety_n but_o he_o that_o shall_v therefore_o press_v they_o to_o be_v like_a in_o all_o shall_v not_o suffer_v a_o magistrate_n if_o he_o be_v a_o sheep_n of_o christ_n to_o punish_v robber_n adulterer_n murderer_n why_o for_o it_o be_v against_o the_o nature_n of_o true_a sheep_n to_o persecute_v any_o beast_n of_o the_o forest_n beside_o i_o demand_v whether_o paul_n be_v a_o sheep_n or_o a_o wolf_n when_o he_o smite_v elymas_n with_o blindness_n if_o he_o be_v a_o wolf_n how_o be_v he_o then_o say_v to_o be_v fill_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n act_v 13.9_o if_o he_o be_v a_o sheep_n why_o do_v he_o strike_v such_o a_o beast_n of_o the_o forest_n ver_fw-la 10_o 11._o furthermore_o when_o the_o wolf_n run_v ravenous_o upon_o the_o sheep_n be_v it_o against_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o true_a sheep_n to_o run_v to_o their_o shepherd_n and_o be_v it_o then_o against_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o true_a shepherd_n to_o send_v forth_o his_o dog_n to_o worry_v such_o a_o wolf_n without_o incur_v the_o reproach_n of_o a_o persecutor_n discusser_n second_o if_o it_o be_v a_o duty_n and_o charge_n upon_o all_o magistrate_n in_o all_o part_n of_o the_o world_n to_o judge_v and_o persecute_v in_o and_o for_o spiritual_a cause_n then_o either_o they_o be_v no_o magistrate_n who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o judge_v in_o such_o case_n or_o else_o they_o must_v judge_v according_a to_o their_o conscience_n whether_o pagan_a turkish_a or_o antichristian_a defender_n this_o have_v be_v again_o and_o again_o answer_v above_o though_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o magistrate_n in_o the_o world_n to_o judge_v and_o punish_v blasphemer_n idolater_n and_o seducer_n yet_o not_o in_o sensu_fw-la composite_a whilst_o they_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o truth_n and_o can_v judge_v of_o such_o cause_n but_o in_o sensu_fw-la diviso_fw-la they_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v wise_a and_o instruct_v in_o the_o knowledge_n and_o worship_n of_o christ_n psal_n 2.10.11_o 12._o and_o then_o to_o judge_v according_o but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v no_o magistrate_n who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v all_o the_o duty_n of_o a_o magistrate_n neither_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o must_v judge_v according_a to_o their_o conscience_n when_o their_o conscience_n be_v blind_a and_o erroneous_a pagan_a turkish_a antichristian_a let_v they_o first_o cast_v beam_n out_o of_o their_o own_o eye_n and_o then_o they_o will_v better_o discern_v between_o beam_n and_o mote_n in_o other_o man_n discusser_n three_o the_o experience_n of_o our_o father_n error_n and_o of_o our_o own_o mistake_n and_o ignorance_n the_o sense_n of_o our_o own_o weakness_n and_o blindness_n in_o the_o depth_n of_o the_o prophecy_n and_o mystery_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o great_a profess_a expectation_n of_o the_o light_n to_o come_v which_o we_o be_v not_o now_o able_a to_o comprehend_v may_v abate_v the_o edge_n and_o sheath_n 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