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A84126 A Bermudas preacher proved a persecutor being a just tryal of Sampson Bond's book, entituled, A publick tryal of the Quakers, &c. : Fraught with fallacies, false doctrine, slanders, railings, aspersions, perversions, and other abuses herein detected, disproved and wiped off. : And that the True Christ is owned by the people called Quakers, plainly made manifest. Estlake, Francis.; Bond, Samson. Publick tryal of the Quakers in Barmudas upon the first day of May, 1678. 1683 (1683) Wing E3354; ESTC R225052 130,172 133

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way of such as desire to know the Truth In Page 6. I take notice how Deceitfully S. B. casts a slander upon us pretending how he hath fil'd off the Rust and Ruggedness of our Expressions yet charging us with disorder dismembring the Scripture which happily we might not speak every Word yet certain I am although many things were then cast in yet I did not violate or pervert the sense of any one Scripture Again he chargeth us with Dishonesty in not Noting Chapter and Verse in which he did greatly boast To which I then answered the Words we speak were Scripture Words and he had no great cause to boast For the Scripture was not given forth in Chapter and Verse neither did the Apostles ever so declare but when they speak Scripture Words they said as it is written naming only the Prophet or writer of the same and here People may take notice of a manifest Slander viz That it is Friends usual manner to speak Scripture darkly and confusedly thereby the more easily to deceive those with whom the Scripture hath any Credit Page 6. Page 7. He goes on with his Lies and Slanders saying My design was to make the Hearers believe that the Eternal Word as distinct from the Manhood of Christ is the true Christ and only Saviour As if I had gone about directly to deny the Body which is like many more of his Charges in his Book which are absolute Lies and Slanders which I shall note hereafter as they fall in my way Neither did I ever use any such Expression for if I had said He were the true and only Saviour that is to say according to S. B's sense every way sufficient to perform the whole Office of a Saviour as disti●guished from the Manhood then was that work in vain viz Christ taking upon him a Body of Flesh and all his Sufferings Death and Resurrection in vain If Christ as God only did perform and perfect the work of Mans Salvation without it Presently he contradicts himself saying Hereunto agrees his Words meaning mine so often repeated by him God was manifest in the Flesh which he saith we mean all Mankind Flesh which he calls an Error Which although it is my belief that God is manifest in his glorious Light in every Man according to his measure according to John 1.9 He Enlightneth every Man that cometh into the World yet my Words chiefly had Reference to that prepared Body in which the Invisible Power did so gloriously appear to those whose Eyes was open to behold it but this his Lie and Slander I shall leave upon his own Head Another Lie or Slander is in Page 8. where he saith A Teaching Quaker whom he calls a Seducing Quaker such a Quaker saith he attributes no more Soul-saving merit to the Body of Christ then to the Body of a Turk or a Jew All that have heard or read the Declarations of Friends concerning the Manhood of Christ can do no less then Judge him to be a Slanderer and a Liar Farther S. B. saith That I insisting upon John 1.9 concluded the Light in every Man to be Christ and that Christ to be the only Saviour I confess I have said That that Light in every Man i● given by Christ to believe in that he may be saved from Sin But rhe word only was never used by me so as to deny the Body of Christ in which he performed the will of God upon the account of Mans Salvation yet he confesseth its true that Light in that Scripture signifieth Christ and that Christ in a sense but it must be his own sense doth Enlighten every Man that cometh into the World that is said he with reason So here he adds to the Scripture whereby he doth confound or pervert the true sense of the same by his Addition concluding that Christ the true Light that Enlightneth every Man that cometh into the World doth Enlighten Man with no other Light then the Light of Reason according to the sense of that Scripture but we believe that the Light with which Christ doth Enlighten Mankind is that Light that shineth in Darkness and the Darkness cannot comprehend and also doth detect discover and make manifest the works of Darkness and doth lead those that believe in it out of the same and this Light is manifested in some measure in every Mans Conscience as they are exercised in the affairs of this World as they heed it But a little to go back to the 2d Confession in Page 82. S. B. calls the work of the Spirit within no other but the effects of the thing done by the Man Christ without us as if to be Sanctified Washed and Purged from Sin could not possibly be wrought except first the Man Christ must have suffered without us as the Anticedent cause of those effects Whereas it is certain that many of the Prophets and Righteous Men that lived before the Appearance of Christ in the Body did Witness these things wrought within them through the effectual working of the Spirit of God in their Hearts So that it is plain that Christ was manifest to them before he took the Body as well as when he took the Body according to the Scripture Christ the same Yesterday to Day and forever So having finished this digression I go forward again In the last line of the 8th Page he saith I belie the Holy Man John that the Enlightning in every Man is Christ which I again testifie that it is a measure of the Light of the true Christ who is God blessed for ever and to prove this a● Error he saith That this Evangelist doth evidently affirm that the Light he ●pake of in the 9th Vers was the Man Jesus which he saith never was nor ●an be in any Man for this he brings the 29 and 30 verses of the same Chapter I Answer The Evangelist in them words cannot be so understood as a Man only for he testifies of him as a whole or perfect Saviour and if so then God for if he were Man only he could not sanctifie and cleanse the Soul from Sin and how then is he the Lamb of God that taketh away the Sins of the World or how is the Sin taken away if it still remains ●n the Heart But peradventure he will say He takes away the guilt of Sin through his Sufferings and to be Cleansed from the Defilement doth follow as the effects I Answer If it be so then it appears that the whole work of Mans Salvation and so not the whole office of a Saviour was not performed at once without us as Sampson Bond affirmeth in his 3d Argument for there is something to be effected within still and if so who as it that works those effects within if it be not the Spirit In Page Nine He goes on to prove the Light within not to be the true Christ by my Words for he saith My Words Imply That thy Light in every Man is Christ therefore
the only Saviour Was Christ sent without the Father Did he Rise from the dead without the Fathers Power for our Justification Doth Christ only reconcile the World without God But we do confess that Jesus Christ was an Offering for the Sins of the whole World and so he suffered in the Flesh and was quickned by the Spirit and is alive and lives for evermore and so dyed for our Sins and rose for our Justification S. B. Blasphemous words Idol-Light within Page 29. Old Popish-trick Carnal-Prophetess as Carnal-Gospellers Anti-Gospellers I charge S. B. to prove these foul Words of his by Scripture S. B. Quakers Light within is but the Pope without If the Quakers Light of Christ within had been the Pope without as in Page 27. then the Pope and the Papists would never have imprisoned and persecuted the Quakers to Death like the New-England Priests and Professors have done and S. B. would not have blasphemed so against the Light And now all people consider doth not S. B. keep all people in darkness and in a reprobate State for he saith Christ within is a Devil and the Light of Christ is an Idol seducing Quakers confounding Dogs and Swine and a wretched desire to blot out of our Hearts the Blessed Name to wit Jesus all these are S. B's Lyes Again S. B. saith the Idol-Light within Obedience to the Light that unbloody Redeemer the Pope without is become the Quakers Light within Page 32. But Reader didst thou ever read such Lyes and wicked Language against the Light within and against the Quakers the Children of the Light who are redeemed by the Blood of Christ And again Frank's Seducers Titular disputant and Christs Humane Nature What Scripture hath S. B. to prove these words which he saith is his Rule but shews none as Page 34 35. And again he saith That a Quakers Saviour within is not the true Christ Surely thou canst not be so Bruitish ●s to think so but rather the contrary that is the false Christ the Devil S. B. if thou hadst been in the days of the Apostles who told the Saints Christ was in them except they were Reprobates thou would'st have said as much to them When W. B. said to S. B. That the Light makes manistest which so troubled S. B. that he said He th ught that W. B. his loud lowing and bellowing was to prevent him of asking where these Words might be sound in Scripture which he says he did forbear to ask Was this a good answer for Priest Bond Instead of answering W. B. he gives him foul Words Page 37. The Light within thee is the true not the false Christ I hope Saith S. B. Thou art not such a BULLOCK as to think it to be the true Christ Page 38. and 39. Deceivers Antichrists Smoak-Coale If Christ be not in his People by his Light Grace and Faith c. Then Priest Bond would not have spoken so many ill words against Christ and his Light within Page 40. Bonds bad words seducing Quakers seducing Quakers Deceivers and Antichrists Then he saith They are of the Dragon and Beast making War against the Lamb do deny Jesus Christ of Nazareth to be the Christ c. These are all horrid Lyes from Priest Bonds foul mouth For Christ we own as is said before and his Lyes are sent home again Pr. Bond. says THOU and YOU is Diabolical to Idolize as the Quakers do THOU and THEE making it the dayly fuel for your levelling inflamed Pride This Bruitish kind of practice see if Priest Bond be not full of Pride who cannot endure the word Thee and Thou which is so frequently practiced in Scripture which he calls his Rule A Quaker who denies the Trinity c. but he hath not proved the Three persons nor the word Trinity in Scripture which he calls his Rule Page 43. Pr. Bond Page 44. A Shame to be of your Sneaking Surly Dum and Scurvy Carriage Unwritten Scripture that idol-Idol-Light within Page 44. Deceit Blasphemy Pride Foolishness of these four Links hath Satan made your Chain of darkness your Idolized Thou and Thee Spring of your Scurvy and Surly deportment Thus poor Ignorant ones are deluded by your equivocations the Quakers is a Conscience of obeying his proud Lusts and of disobeying Gods inspired Laws for a Quaker boldly to Blaspheme Page 45. These are Priest Bond 's Slanderous Words and Lyes The Light within is written Scripture which he saith is unwritten Scripture as you may see in 2 Cor. 4. which he blasphemously calls your Idol Light and did the Apostles Idolize Thee and Thou when they frequently used it Priest Bonds foul words You are possessed with the infernal Spirit of superlative Pride against Jesus F. E. makes another motion on the behalf of his Client the false Christ Saviour within c. To wit The Blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth from all Sin Page 46. Here you may see the false Language of Priest Bond For doth not the Blood of Jesus Christ the Son of God Cleanse from all sin And if Christ be not in him is he not a Reprobate But Priest Bond saith that F. E. left out some part of the Scripture to wit His Son but Priest Bond himself hath left out more but what will serve his own Turn And as for his Lyes and filthy Language he may take it to himself S. B. saith Sundry persons laught at Francis to wit when they were disputing of the things of God Page 48 Page 49. he says the Idol-Light Christ within the Word Humane comprehends both Soul and Body Page 49. But Priest Bond hath not proved with his Idol light within Christs Soul and Body to be humane by the Scripture is not the Soul Immortal And is the Soul of Christ humane and is humane Immortal And in Page 50. Priest Bond is at humane nature again and humane and humane but Priest Bond hath not proved by Scriptures any of these words which he saith is his Rule Priest Bond The Manichees Doctrine namely That Christ brought from Heaven an Invisible Body of Flesh and Blood into the Womb of the Virgin Undoubtedly the Quakers have drunk in this Poison originally from them to advance the Idol light within This Poison comes out of Priest Bonds Bottle and he may take it home again not the Quakers For we own the true Jesus Christ as both the Angel and the Apostles have declared his Conception Birth c. as he was of the Seed of David c. Pr. Bond This seducing Teacher doth not confess Jesus Christ of Nazareth the Idol Light within Juggling Cheat c. Page 52. These are Priest Bonds horrid Lies and Blasphemy Christs flesh glorified in Heaven above which precious Truths are worth nothing in the account of a Quaker These are Priest Bonds Lies And yet Priest Bond saith That the Quakers do believe in Christs Body of Flesh and Blood and that he did dye for sin and rose again and that he is mans only Saviour See
the Light within a Quaker must be Born at Bethlehem Reply I could say more and yet speak truly of the work of the Light or Spirit of God or measure of Christ within then S. B. c●n receive or understand but this I say I never said the Light in every perticular was the entire Christ for that were to make many Christs but I say that it is only a measure of that Christ who appeared in the Body that was ●orn in Bethlehem Again this Priest Page 9. In his answer to that Text 1 Tim. 3.16 said Nothing can be more Evident then this Disputant would have had the Hearers to believe that the God-head as distinct from Christ being a Man is the true Christ and only Saviour In answer to this and all other of his Wicked and false Accusations I say and testifie that I do truly and really give according to what I Understand and feel by the Inward Operation of the Spirit of Christ within according to the Testimony of Saints without as it is Recorded in the Scripture of Truth unto God his due and also what the Scripture doth declare of the Man or Body of Christ I also truly own So let his Lies and false Accusations return upon his own Head who shall assuredly feel the weight of them in the Day of the Lord. In Page 10. He clearly manifests his Ignorance and the Car●allity of his Mind for speaking there of the Apostle John's words 1 John 1. Vers 1 2 3. where he saith That which was from the Beginning mark diligently Christ in that Body was not from the Beginning which we have heard which we have seen which we have looked upon and our hands have handled of the Word of Life This he seems to affirm That the blessed Apostle did testifie that they had seen him and looked upon him and handled him viz the Word of Life by being in his company as dark a piece and as ignorant almost as I have heard drop from ●ny one that hath taken upon them to write in the defence of their Religion What! the outward Eye to behold the word of Life Doth not the Scripture say No Man hath seen God at any time Did not the Jews see the Body Yet they saw not God that dwelt in the Body For he that saw Christ saw the Father also according to Christs own Words to Phillip likewise Christ saith The hour cometh and now is when the Dead should hear the Voice of the Son of Man and they that heard should live But the Jews heard the outward Voice yet did abide in Death and Darkness where this Priests place is otherwise he never durst adventure to open his Mouth in Blasphemies against the clear manifestation of the Spirit in the Heart and Consciences of Men calling it an Idol even the Light of Christ who himself bore witness and declared That he was the Light of the World But now having begun to revile the Appearance of Gods Spirit What can put a stop to him but the Hand of Divine Justice Which will assuredly overtake him and he shall have a Reward from the Hand of the Lord. In Page Twelve This Sampson Bond accuseth us of Envy comparing us to the Jews who Contradicted the things spoken by Paul and Blasphemed To which I Answer Therefore art thou inexcusable O Man for wherein thou Judgest us thou thy self art Condemned even by thine own Judgment for the very thing thou hast laid to this Peoples Charge thou thy self art sound guilty of for thou at found contradicting the things spoken by Paul and left upon Record viz Christ his being or Appearance within as witnessed 2 Cor. 13.5 Gal. 2.20 and Chap. 4.19 Col. 1.27 And hast also Blasphemed his Inward Appearance calling it an Idol So with the Wicked and Sloathful Servant thou art justly Condemned out of thine own Mouth and so the Judgment wherewith thou hast judged me will redound upon thy self defend thy self as well as thou canst And Rom. 10.6 7 8. Which he keeps such a busle about turning and winding Serpent like yet except he could race the Words out of the Book it will stand a Witness for Christ the Eternal Word which Faith takes hold of and brings the Soul into Union with him who is nigh unto his in the Mouth and in the Heart So that his People feeling his presence in their Hearts are not ashamed to Confess him with their Mouths In the Sixteenth Page speaking of the 2 Cor. 13 5. Know ye not your own selves how that Christ is in you except ye be Reprobates This Scripture he saith Wounds their new Coined Religion to Death and to make it appear he forms an Argument thus If the Light which is by Natural Generation in Reprobates coming into the World be not the true Christ then the Light that is in every Man that comes into the World by Natural Generation is not the true Christ But the Light which by Natural Generation in Reprobates is not the true Christ as above Ergo the Light which is in every Man which comes int● the World is not according to your selves the true Christ Reply I shall never fear wounding by a Weapon that never comes near me so this Argument of thine is farr enough off from wounding our Religion that it touches not neither comes near for I believe this Bond would be hard put to it to find that Quaker out that either writ or said that the light which is in every man by Natural Generation is the true Christ but he who is the true Ligh● that Lighteth every Man that cometh into the World is the true Christ but thy Natural Light we deny to be the Christ as well as thou dost knowing that whatsoever is Born of the Flesh is Flesh but that which is Born of the Spirit is Spirit at which I doubt thy enmity is chiefly although thy Ignorance is not able to put a difference between the one and the other but here by the way take Notice that the Apostle doth not say Christ is not in Reprobates but that Reprobates do not know Christ in them by his Light to condemn them in Page 18. he saith that I said I abhor Hour-Glasses Answer This is also false I said not I Abhor them for they are serviceable for their proper use but I said I deny them as they use them His Words viz. His familiar the Glow warm Light within what Scripture has he for this is not a Blasphemous Character put upon the Light within Farther in the same Page I take Notice of another grand Lie and false accusation Namely that I doubted in my Discourse whether the Word took Flesh of the Virgin and in that Flesh dyed for all Men. But I account it but a light thing to be Belied or Evil spoken of by him who is not afraid to speak Evil of the Divine and Elect Seed Christ in the Saints calling it the Idol Light within as it follows in the same Page and
now having had so many stroakes at this Heavenly and Glorious appearance of Christ in Man and not yet sensible of the stroak of Gods Divine Justice against him he sets forward in his ungodly course and proceeds to call it an accursed Gospel within which saith he The Lord hath Cursed with a Reiterated Curse But I say unto thee who art thou that Cursest that which the Lord hath Blessed Yea and it is and shall be Blessed for evermore in which thou hast no part nor portion who art found Cursing Shimei like who Cursed David the Lords Anointed so art thou found Cursing Christ Jesus the Light and power of God within and his Gospel which as Paul witnesseth is the power of God to Salvation But tell me Sampson how many hast thou by thy Preaching turned from Satan to God although thou hast sold it at a very dear Rate taking for it after the Rates of 250 l. a year as thy self said thou wert put by a Benifice of 250 l. a year upon the Kings coming in and yet are not the People to whom thou Preachest and of whom thou takest Wages still in their sins and is this according to the Doctrine which Christ taught his Disciples freely you have received freely give but thou art Erred from that having not received freely thou canst not give freely and so people pay dear for that by which they have no profit and indeed they have little encouragement to give thee any more Wages who said in the Audience of many People in my hearing that sin must live in them as long as they live and so have no encouragement to follow thee who hast no other Gospel to Preach to them then that which cannot save them out of sin and so dost plainly appear to be none of Christs Minister neither hast thou received thy Gift from Christ for the Gifts that he when he Ascended up on High gave unto Men it was for the perfection of the Saints for the Edifying of the Body of Christ till they were grown up to a perfect Man to the Measure of the Stature of the fulness of Christ in whom there was no sin found But to proceed In the same Page 20. this false accuser undertakes to charge upon us the sin against the Holy Ghost from the 6th of the Hebrews where he charges us with falling away or wilfully going back again from Faith and Repentance and further he saith that we whom he calls Quakers have Trodden under Foot the Son of God and have counted the Blood of the Covenant wherewith we were Sanctified that is saith he Externally or as to the opinion once of Men an unholy thing Answer Then it appears by thy words that we were never truly or inwardly Sanctified but Men had only such an opinion of us If this be all then it appears by thy Judgment that we cannot be accounted among the Number of those spoken of in Heb. 6th for they were made pertakers of the Holy Ghost and had a Tast of the Power of the World to come Now the Apostle saith If such fall away it is impossible to renew them again c. besides it was such as were Sanctified not such as were only so in Mens opinions and were not so indeed But I demand what the ground is of this exceeding great charge thou hast laid against us for as I have said before in Effect if not in plain Words that we whom thou in scorn calls Quakers do believe in no other Jesus then that very Jesus who was Born of the Virgin who suffered without the Gates of Jerusalem whom God raised from the Dead by his Power and shewed him openly to many who became witnesses of his Resurrection of which Jesus we have received a Measure even of that fulness which in him dwelt i. e. of his Spirit by which we are Sanctified and cleansed even from the defilement of sin in measure and do feel as we are giving up to Obey the Spirit I say we feel a daily growth and Increase of the same And now S. B. what is become of the charge thou hast laid against us for which thou hast doomed us with no less then Eternal Judgment is it for any thing else then that thou hast thus Judged us but because we own the appearance of Christ Jesus within us by which he doth perform many great and mighty works in us and for us even to the overthrowing of the Man of sin and power of Darkness and casting him out of our hearts and also doth set up his Throne in our Consciences and so is become our King who hath purchased us through his Blood to be a peculiar people unto himself Therefore if thou hast any thing farther to accuse us of whereby thou canst prove against us such a dreadful charge as the Treading under our Feet the Blood of the Covenant c. Bring it forth against us or otherwise thou by this wilt be farther manifested to be a false Accuser and so shame will take hold of thee who has gone about this Island in divers places accusing us with Mallicious accusations viz. That we had committed the unpardonable sin even the sin against the Holy Ghost and now hast not been ashamed to bring it to the Publick view in Print and yet had nothing Justly to lay to our charge of any Evil but a heap of lies and false Accusations And thou thy self in the 21st Page of thy Book said I did confess to the same Jesus whom the Jews Slew and God raised again from the Dead where he saith by this confession I did openly declare my self a Christian and no Quaker And yet this pleases him not but immediately saith that by this confusion I had contradicted what I contended for before who never denyed the Man Christ Jesus no more then the Saints of old who confess to his inward manifestation or Spiritual appearance within But still this false Accuser S. B. goes on with his false charges against me takeing up a report from one Bethel who said in publick that I told his Wife that if she believed in any other Christ then that which was within Her she was Damn'd This Accusation I denyed as thus declared which now in his Book he makes a large report of the same and saith that I know they were worthy to be believed before me Answer What their Reputation is I leave at present only this I declare was false as then declared farther it was said that I charged Her with Blasphemy The truth is I do not remember I spoke one Word to Her at that time as to charge Her with Blasphemy But I being discoursing with Her and speaking something about the inward appearance of Christ in Man she was ready I perceived to Judge as this Her teacher doth that I had denyed the Body or Man Jesus and declared of another Christ whereupon she immediately started up clapping Her hands together expressing these words I pray God I may never be saved