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A42139 Pax vobis, or Ghospell and libertie against ancient and modern papists. By E.G. preacher of the word. Dedicated to the right honble the Lord Halyfax Griffith, Evan, A.M., Minister of Alderly. 1679 (1679) Wing G1990; ESTC R215168 69,211 191

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