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A33521 A word to the upright for help and preservation in these erring dayes by errours detected, in a book, called, A testimony for the truth, Christ and his light, by some that go by the name of Quakers, wherein they manifest their foundation for salvation, which they call, the Christ of God / by him who seeks the well-fare of all men, Robert Cobbet. Cobbet, Robert. 1668 (1668) Wing C4775; ESTC R40844 31,405 34

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are useful to help for the clearing of the Truth am I thence to be condemned since you make use of your Head-Leaders words and principles to fight against the Truth Brethren I will aske your selves if that it was not at all times my manner of Discourse when at any time as occasion offered that I did not as well acknowledge the Soveraignty of the Lord in the new re-generation as I did the sufferings of the Lord for our Salvation and should I have denyed the one by only crying up the other I should have been reproved by my Maker but in this I rejoyce that God hath pleased of his Grace to give to me of all men most unworthy to understand the whole Truth to which I bore Testimony in the paper For that if it be as you say that the light whereof every man that comes into the world be Christ and Saviour and not Christ that was born of the Virgin Mary as he was in person then the Scriptures Testimony of him are not true and his Apostles are found Lyers before God in that they are they that testifie to him see Luke the first and second Chapters Paul in all his Epistles as also all the Apostles in their Acts Recorded Isaiah the 7 th the 14 th verse Isa the 9 th and verse 6. To us a Child is born unto us a Son is given and the Government shall be upon his shoulders and his Name shall be called wonderful Counsellour the Mighty God the Everlasting Father the Prince of peace is not this he that came from Bosrah whose garment was died red and is not this Christ whose Garments was stained with his blood when pierc't with Longinos his sword if so not the light in conscience but the babe born you say that the Gospel by which we are saved is the power you feel the Scriptures say the sufferings of Christ is the Gospel and the power of God by which we are saved Corinthians the first Epistle the fifteenth Chapter and first second and third verses if so not the light in conscience you say not Christ the Saviour as he was man consisting of Body Soul and Spirit but the light in that body the Scriptures say that that man born of Mary that suffered by Pilate was the Christ and Saviour Luke the 24 and the 39. A Spirit hath not flesh and bones as I have and verse 46. speaking of his sufferings in his person saith That thus it behoved Christ to suffer and to rise the third day from the dead that Repentance and Forgiveness of sins should be preached in his Name to all Natiions this being truth not the light in conscience for that the light in conscience is a diffused principle and Christ was a compacted body you say that Christs sufferings was temporary and not Eternal but the power you feel eternal therefore not his sufferings the Gospel but the power the Scriptures say that at once by himself he offered up an offering once for all them that shall be made Heirs of eternal salvation Hebrews the tenth if so not the light in conscience in that it was not the offering but the person who by the offering up of his body once for all you say that Patriarks and Prophets giving heed unto the light in them it was sufficient to them for their salvation but the Scriptures say if the blood of Bulls and Goates serve for the sanctifying of the flesh how much more shall the blood of Christ who through the eternal spirit offered himself without spot to God Purge your Consciences from dead works to serve the Living God and for this cause he became the Mediator of the New Covenant and that by means of his death for the Redemption of the Transgressors that were under the first Testament that they that are called may receive the promise of eternal inheritance and since the offerings by the Law must be purged with blood or else there was no remission it was saith he necessary that since the patterns of the true to wit the things in the Heavens should be purified with these that the Heavenly things themselves should with better sacrifice then these not that he should offer himself often as the High-Priests that entred into the Holy place every year with blood of others but now in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself and as it is appointed to men once to dye but after death to come to Judgment So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation Hebrews the 9 th the latter end of the Chapter If so the Scriptures True your Doctrine is out of Truth That sayes Patriarks and Prophets had Salvation by the Light in their Consciences since that was but the hand that guided them to him that was to come that purified all by blood without which no remission therefore not the light in conscience the Christ and Saviour but he that offered up himself a living Sacrifice for the putting away sin you say that you are beyond Faith but say I was you ever in it if you had and received the Promise upon your believing sure you would have held out unto the end that you might have been saved but you turning away to another Christ and another Gospel then the sufferings of Christ shows you either never had the Faith of the Lord Jesus or that you are Apostatized from it for the Scriptures say that we are kept by Faith through the Mighty Power of God unto Salvation The Galathians Witch-craft that having received the Spirit by the hearing of Faith the Concition bewitcht them to another Gospel Obedience to the Law you say that the Soul of man is no creture the Scriptures saith What will it profit thee to gain the whole World and lose thy owne soul and thou fool This night shall thy soul be taken from thee and saith God I will not for ever contend with man nor be wroth for the spirit would fail before me and the soul that I have made so that say I unto you O you children of men is it I that deny the Christ of God or is it you that say he the Word that was made flesh is not Christ and Saviour but that is he that was in that Christs person which you call Light saying that a measure of it is in the Conscience of every man that comes into the world and thence affirm that he was but a manifestation for our Example as saith Solomon Eccl. and J. P. in their papers Now we know this that it is written that that tha● was in Christ was God who being in Christ did by Christ reconcile the world unto himself not imputing to them their sins who having by Christ reconciled the world unto himself requires all men to believe on him that by him they may have Everlasting Life which the Scriptures concludes that whosoever believes on him shall be saved and he that believes not shall be damned for Christ being come a light into the world men will not come unto him that they may have life for which they shall dye in their sins for this is the will of God unto men that they believe on him whom God hath sent and Christ who is the enlightner of those that come to him by faith he gives to them his spirit by which they become the Sons of God who will raise them up at the last day from whence I conclude that you are they that deny Christ the Son of God who is the enlightner of men and the Saviour of his people Israel And Brethren am I become your Enemy because that I tell you the Truth well although by you condemned by God justified and thence pray that your sins be not laid to your charge giving you to know that I go not from the Truth because I declare to the Truth that doth convince of your mistake owning that in you that is to be owned in those things that is true and trust so shall be kept unto the end but if you will have it that I am no Quaker thinking thereby to expose me to outward troubles know that I fear none of these things for I have not so learned Christ that I should stand in fear of you or any man that shall gain-say the Truth your accusing me of coming amongst you for to shelter under your Cloke doth manifest you what you are but wickedness comes from the hands of the wicked as for me my hand shall not be upon you and do rejoyce since that to be a Quaker is to deny my Lord and Master that you though from Envie do declare me to be none and to help forward your desires in this matter do say that I am and ever was far from your opinion touching Christ the Lord and in this matter do say I am no Quaker and ●aving much to say of the cause of my leaving you from prin●iples and practises I forbear till a further time supposing by ●ou thereunto shall be provok't but if it might be the will ●f my God do much rather desire your Repentance to the blot●…g out for ever your reproach and shall not forget to make 〈◊〉 Supplication to God for you to vouchsafe to you his Grace 〈◊〉 that it be his Heavenly will and if that I must be judged ●…r Enemy because I tell you the Truth he who shewed me by his Visions on my bed in the dayes of my youth thi●… that I see now are brought to pass who hath preserved me 〈◊〉 to this day in that he is my rock will keep me I trust in 〈◊〉 fear for that he is my God Peace and good will to all men from God our Father and from our Lord Jesus Christ who hath loved us and washed us in his own blood for that he dyed for us to purchase us to God even Jesus the Mediator of the Covenant of Grace by the good will of God and our Father sanctifie all men to the Resurrection from the dead by the putting on the New Man hidde● in the heart the birth of God by Jesus Christ through the ●…bounding of his love by his own spirit Is the prayer of 〈◊〉 that desires the welfare of all men and known by the N●… of ROBERT COBBET FINIS
A WORD TO THE UPRIGHT For Help and Preservation in these ERRING DAYES By Errours detected in a BOOK Called A TESTIMONY FOR THE TRUTH CHRIST and his LIGHT By some that go by the Name of QUAKERS wherein they manifest their Foundation for Salvation which they call The CHRIST of GOD. By him who seeks the well-fare of all men ROBERT COBBET London Printed in the Year 1668 A Word to the Vpright for help and preservation in these Erring Dayes A Pamphlet that Entitles it self wrote by some people called Quakers coming to my hands which may blind the eyes of some from having their persons and principles in admiration from a knowledge by experiencing of some things by them taught am willing for your sakes that desire you may know the truth to the acknowledging of the truth to set the truth before you that you may escape the errours of perdition and in that it saith He that denies me before men him will I deny before my Father that is in Heaven put my Pen once more to paper to the clearing up the truth the cause the Pamphlet from its Allegorizing the Scriptures of truth and its Erronious Assertions against the truth that doth so deface the beautiful face of the truth declared by Law Psalms and Prophets Christ and his Apostles that their requirings of men to the obedience of faith to Christ the Saviour of men who bought us by his blood is in danger I fear to be had in scorn and contempt with many and Atheisme start up and over-spread by the corrupting the young sprouts of the Nation to an Opinion of late broach't in this Nation the Opinion asserted is That the Light in Conscience whereof every man that comes into the world is enlightned is Christ Redeemer Advocate Mediatour and Saviour which I suppose if you will bear with me to say is a Doctrine and Gospel that hath no footing in Scriptures nor in any foundation at any time amongst the Sons of men till it took rise in fifty two by the hands of George Fox which Doctrine of the light in Conscience had it been kept in its Office as a School-Master to bring unto Christ had been a Doctrine of good Morality but putting it up for Christ the Advocate Mediator Redeemer and Saviour stands in my spirit as a high mistake for that to me it doth utterly deny the Son of God and makes null the blood of the Covenant and that it doth so appear to be the intent of the Writers of the paper is manifest by what is said in the paper of all Pro●… 〈…〉 having Faith on the Lord Jesus the Son of God for their Saviour and the sufferings of his person for their salvation in dirision called it Professors stuff querying whether it is good Doctrine to preach him in his person for Saviour and his death and sufferings the cause of salvation affirming that his sufferings are not everlasting and that the person Christ is not the Saviour of men but that that was Saviour something that was in that Christ to wit the Light in the Conscience positively declaring in a certain place that the blood of Christ was not that that did atone with God for man for the transgression of men But my business being to dissect the paper that if it may be to strengthen your Faith on the foundation the Prophets and Apostles have laid come to inspect the paper which paper pag. the 3. for what reason I know not unless this that the two first pages being to fence against the Scriptures that did at large confirm the truth being too plain a discovery of their bottom durst not stand to the judgment of men but say you contend not with me about the coming of the Lord in the flesh nor his death sufferings resurrection and ascention but if true that you said your paper had kept in we must intreat your patience to step along with us a little before you come to meet with an unfolding this mystery for truly I must tell you that my friends are in a cloud but by what above said you may have a guess of what they mean by their dark sayings but in that we shall meet with these particulars in the paper we pass to Page the 4. Where they tell you that Christ was truly a Light before and when he took upon him the form of a Servant both before he appeared in a bodily similitude in the likeness of sinfull flesh and then also and is Gods salvation to the ends of the Earth which extends farther then his personal presence did though therein he did bear witness to the truth to his inward and spiritual manifestation to the new and living way Friends pray be not offended with me to tell you the Serpent twinds about the Tree to catch you in his deep deceit for having told you that his appearing in flesh was to bear witness to his inward and spiritual appearing which they that know him so that know no man after the flesh that though so had known him yet so know him no more to make you believe they are some excellent things fly aloft by telling you the real end of his coming in flesh is known and reserved in the spirit which say you he directed his unto and in a caper cry that his name was from everlasting and is to everlasting the Lord is one and his name one receive it who can Friends I pray be not big worded out of the truth I deny not but the ends of the coming of the Lord into the world was to beget his Children into fellowship by communion with his Father and Himself by giving to them his Life which is mans Light which my Brethren being our Salvation we have it by him who is our Saviour Christ Jesus who hath bought us to God by the price of his blood and for the big words the Lord is one and his name one receive it who can we own it for ever that our God is only one God but this is as he is unmanifested but as God is manifested he is Father Word and Spirit and although God is one of whom are all things yet there is the Lord Jesus Christ by whom are all things who is Mediatour betwixt God and man and Christ by whom is all things being the word that was made flesh for redemption of man did the Fathers will in that body of flesh through the offering it up to the death of the Cross by the Eternal Spirit according as he said I will give my flesh for the Life of the world who giving it up unto death reconciled us unto God by the body of his flesh that tasted death as saith the Scriptures and although he is Everlasting as he is the Word yet as he was the man Christ he was of time according to the saying Thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee which you find was when the Holy Ghost over-shaddowed Mary which was saith Paul When the fulness of time
give salvation but for a director unto him whom God hath sent into the world for salvation who when he was in the world preacht not obedience to the light of conscience but to himself as Saviour from that that he redeemed them that by his own blood and they having their consciences convinc ' that he was the Messiah but wilfully opposed him that was and is the truth who cried O Jerusalem how often would I have gathered thee as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings but thou would'st not therefore thy destruction is of thy self and some of them whose hearts had been touched to confess him to be the Lord and Christ turned away from him by reason of Moses his Law so it is plain that the office of the light in conscience is but as Paul speaks of the Law a School-Master to bring man unto Christ for saith he If the Light in you be darkness how great is that darkness Now if the light in conscience was Christ as you falsly so say then must it follow that the light in man being Christ Christ may be darkness therefore I conclude him to be Christ whom the Apostles saw and bore record unto who saw him ascend up into his Glory into the Majesty at the right hand of God from whence he gives gifts to men as being exalted far above all Heavens and all Principalities that he may fill all things and thence if the Heavens themselves are filled from his fulness that filleth all things your Opinion of the light in conscience being Christ is out of door and for the creture to look into the creture for Christ being risen and ascended far above all Heavens you direct your Disciples wrong in directing to his measure in your hearts but this I say 't is written My Son give me thy heart therefore man is to wait in heart for the fulfilling of the promise that God hath made to man by Covenant in Christ to renew the heart that so in heart he may obey the Doctrine of faith that by it the heart may be fill'd with his spirit which the heart having received inlightens the heart to the believing on him by whom he is sent therefore your directing the mind to the light in conscience which serves but to condemn for unbelief or to justifie the creture in his obedience of the faith misplaceth the mind from the right object and placeth it upon a wrong for Christ being the end of the Law for Righteousness to them that believe to direct unto the Law the light in conscience is to bring the Creture man again into bondage when the Lord of Life hath set them free But my Brethren you are bought with a price not of blood of Bulls and Goats nor Heifers of a year old but by the blood of God for you know that it is written that faith comes by hearing and hearing of the word of God but how saith he shall they hear without a Preacher and how shall they preach without they be sent Now Brethren if the light within you be Christ it is but looking into your hearts turning your eye inwards and you are in your way you need no preacher sent to you for your director to lead you to Christ by faith to wait for the promise the receiving of the spirit but you being ignorant of the new Covenant that saith I will write my Law in your hearts and put my fear into your inward parts and will pour out my spirit upon you who shall be in you that you shall not depart from me the Lord which Covenant of Grace standing not upon works you make void by your centring upon works to the denying the Lord that hath bought you and from the Covenant of works of which in shew you are zealous of though I know you what you are and that in most things to it are contrary yet in opinion being zealous of it set up by opinion your own righteousness by which you fall short of the righteousness of God and do not only fall short of it but also do deny it stumbling at the Covenant of promise and you being become the preachers up of works to the light of nature are become so naturalized to your Opinions that Christ the Authour of Redemption by his blood do not only deny but also reject in down-right terms testifying that by it man is not atoned for with God Now would I know of thee whether the Law given by Moses did determine Israel in it self that by it they might have life or whether it did not direct Israel to Christ to come in flesh verily to Christ who was to come in flesh as Moses their Law-giver hath wrote who said to them The Lord your God shall raise up to you from amongst your Brethren a Prophet-like unto me him shall you hear in all things and that soul that will not hear that Prophet shall be cut off from amongst the people And ye blind guides was not the sacrifices that God appointed to the people to offer up to him types to Christ that offering of acceptable price in that he did the Fathers will which was the redemption of man which the sacrifices that typified unto him could not do for that they were not of force to take away sin wherefore God had no pleasure in them but prepared a body for him by which he would do his will which body was Christ who having done the will of God by the body of his flesh in reconciling us to God by that body of his flesh in that day he offered it up by the Eternal Spirit to the death of the Cross to the pouring out of his soul to death by which blood he sanctified the true things of the Heaven as the blood of the Oblations sanctified the patterns of the true which puts it out of doubt that God gave not the Law to Israel for justification but as the Apostle saith it came in because of transgression that sin might appear more sinful but when the deliverer of Sion came in form and fashion of a man they despised him the Lord of Glory and put him to open shame Crying His blood be upon us and upon our Children which is upon them unto this day and you from your unbelief and impenitensie of your hearts do with the unbelieving Jews put away from you the just one Crucifying the Lord afresh in your spiritual City as you call it which is spiritually Sodom and Aegypt but in that it is certain that that that with God for man made peace was the blood of Christ in which is the Covenant of reconciliation that is the Author of Eternal Salvation unto all them that obey him according to Gods requiring of faith who being that sacrifice that at once for ever offered up himself for the sins of the world needed not daily as the Priests of the Law first for their own sins and then for the people for this he did once when he offered up