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A29753 Quakerisme the path-way to paganisme, or, A vieu of the Quakers religion being an examination of the theses and apologie of Robert Barclay, one of their number, published lately in Latine, to discover to the world, what that is, which they hold and owne for the only true Christian religion / by John Brown ... Brown, John, 1610?-1679.; R. M. C. 1678 (1678) Wing B5033; ESTC R10085 718,829 590

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gate it was that he might sanctifie the people with his own bloud 〈◊〉 this is more than a may be Rom. 3 25 26. Why did God set forth Christ to be a propitiation It was to declare his righteousness for the remission of sinnes that are past that he might be just and the justifi●r of him that ●eleeveth in Iesus a Certaine Real thing Many moe passages might be added to this purpose but these may suffice to discover the absurd falshood of this Quakers doctrine 17. Adde 6. such passages as mention the Actual Accomplishment and Effect of Christ's death where it will yet more appear that this was no meere May be or Possible thing but that which was to have a certaine B●ing and Reality as to the persons for whom it was designed Such as Heb. 1 3. when he had by himself purged our sinnes Can their sinnes be said to be purged who pine away in hell for ever because of their sinnes could this be true if no man had been saved and yet if it had been a mere possible and may be Redemption it might have come to passe that not one person should have been actually saved So Heb. 9 12. by his owne blood he entered in once into the holy place having obtained eternal redemption Is a meer possible Redemption to be called an Eternal Redemption and was that all that Christ obtained Then Christ's blood was more ineffectual in the truth than the type was in its typicalness for the blood of buls and goats and the ashes of an hiefer sprinkling the unclean did not obtaine a possible and may be-sanctification and purifying of the flesh but did actually and really sanctify to the purifying of the flesh vers 13. Againe vers 14. which also confirmeth what is now said how much more shall the blood of Christ who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God So that all such for whom he offe●ed himself and shed his blood and none else have their consciences purged from dead works to serve the living God and who dar say that this is common to all or is a meer may be which the Apostle both restricteth and asserteth as a most certaine real thing Againe vers 26. but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself So that he did Actually and Really and not Possibly and Potentially only put away sin the sin viz. of those for whom he was a sacrifice even of them that look for him and to whom he shall appear the second time without sin unto salvation vers 28. and sure no man in his wits will say that this is the whole world Gal. 3 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law being made a curse for us 24 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Iesus Christ that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith Here are three Ends and Effects of Christ's Redemption mentioned which no Man will say are common to all viz. Redemption from the curse of the Law this was Really not potentially only done by Christ's being made a curse for us the Communication of the blessing of Abraham and the Promise of the Spirit which are ensured to such as are Redeemed from the curse of the l●w and to none else So Ephes. 2 13 14 15 16. But now in Christ Iesus ye who sometimes were afar off are made nigh by the blood of Christ for he is our peace who hath made both one and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us having abolished in his flesh the enmity the Law of commandements in ordinances for to make to himself of twain one n●w man so making peace and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the crosse having slaine the enmity thereby To which adde the parallel place Col. 1 21 22. 2 14 15. was all this delivery from Wrath Enmity Law of commandements whatever was against us but a meer Potential thing and a May be common to all in whose power it was to cause it take effect or not as they pleased Esai 53 5. He was wounded for our transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities the chastisement of our peace was upon him and with his stripes we are healed with 1 Cor. 15.3 Christ died for our sinnes 1 Pet. 2 24. who his owne self bear our sinnes in his own body on the tree by whose stripes we are healed How can we then imagine that all this was a meer May be seing he was so bruised for our iniquities so died for our sins so bear our sinnes in his own body as that thereby all in whose room he stood are healed by his stripes The Apostle doth moreover fully clear this matter Rom. 5 6. Christ died for the ungodly was this for all Or was it to have an uncertane End and effect No vers 9. much more then being now justified by his blood we shall be saved from wrath through him The ungodly and the sinners for whom he died are such as become justified by his blood and shall at length be fully saved from wrath And againe vers 10. for if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his son much more being reconciled we shall be saved by his life Upon his death followeth Reconciliation with God and then Salvation and his death is for no more than his life is for By him also they receive an atonement vers 11. As the consequences and effects of Adam's sin did Certainly and not by a May be redownd to all that he represented and engadged for so the fruites and effects of Christ's death do as certainly come unto such as are his as the Apostle cleareth in the following verses laying the advantage on the side of Christ and his vers 15. much more the grace of God and the gift by grace by one man Iesus Christ hath abounded unto many vers 16. but the free gift is of many offences unto justification vers 17. much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reigne in life by one Iesus Christ vers 18. even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men to justification of life ver 19. so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous vers 21 so might grace reigne through righteousness unto eternal life by Iesus Christ our Lord. Is all this a Common thing and a meer May be or Possibility Ioh. 10 11. he giveth his life for his sheep vers 15. But may they for all that perish No in no wise vers 28. and I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish He came that they might have life and might have it more abundantly vers 10. To the same purpose he saith Ioh. 6.33 that he
the way and the non-performance of this condition being also a sin our proposition will recurre upon this and so in infinitum but if this sin be taken out of the way it cannot prejudge them of the pardon of the rest and thus all their sins being pardoned they must needs be saved and yet it is not so But it is said that Christ died not for the sin of Final Unbeleef yet it seemeth th●t it will be granted that he died even for the sin of Unbeleefe of all the world and for unbeleefe continued in until the last houre of a mans life but not for that last act which yet is but the same Unbeleefe continued in an hour longer and shall we think that Christ bare the Unbeleefe of 20 40 60. or moe yeers in his body on the crosse and not the same Unbeleefe for one houre or halfe houre yea or quarter of an houre Who seeth not how little ground there is for such an imagination But the thing I would have mainly here considered is this That for whose sinnes Christ hath died he hath died for all their sins and therefore if he died for the sinnes of all the world he died for the final Unbeleefe of all the world But this will not be granted therefore neither can it be said that he died for the sinnes of all men Whose sinnes he took upon him to make satisfaction for he left none for them to answere for for he is a compleat Mediator and is sole Mediator If he died for all the rest of the sinnes of the Reprobat and of the whole world why not for that also Sure when the Scripture speaketh of Christs taking away of sin and of the Redemption that is forgiveness of sins which people enjoy through him there is no sin excepted He was wounded for our transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities Esa. 53 5. the Lord laid on him the iniquity of us all vers 6. or m●de the iniquitie of us all to meet on him there is no ground for any exception here when he was stricken for transgression vers 9. and his soul was made an offering for sin v. 10. is there any appearance of the exception of any one sin when he bear their sin and their iniquities vers 11 12. what intimation is given of an exception of any Yea if this exception was to be made which would null and destroy all what consolation could the declaration of this redemption remission of sins yeeld unto poor sinners Col. 1 14. Ephes. 1 7. When the Lord made him to be sin for us was it only in part how then could we be made the righteousness of God in Him 2 Cor. 5 21 was the Lord in Christ reconcileing the world unto himself not imputing only part of their trespasses to them but the imputing of one sin would mar the reconciliation for ever Is not final unbeleef a dead work Doubtless yet the blood of Christ purgeth consciences from dead works Heb. 9 14. Did the blood of buls and goats so sanctify as to the purifying of the flesh as to leave the most defileing spot of all untaken away How could healing come by his stripes if he bear but part of our sins in his body on the tree seing final unbeleef alone would mar all for where that is there is no coming to God imaginable But moreover the Scripture tels us that the blood Iesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin 1 Ioh. 1 7. and that if any man sin there is an Advocat with the Father who is a propitiation for sins 1 Ioh. 2 vers 1 2. and so must be for all sins otherwayes there were little ground of comfort here And it was foretold by Daniel Chap. 9 24. that he should make an end of sin and finish the transgression and so bring-in everlasting righteousness Doth this admit of exceptions and of such an exception as would unavoidably make all null No certanely But you will ask of me If I think that Christ did die for final unbeleefe I Answ. Not for I judge it is the sin only of Reprobates who hear the Gospel and I judge that Christ did not die for any sin of Reprobats But this I hold and have cleared That for whose sinnes soever Christ hath died he hath died for all their sins And because he hath not died for final Unbeleef therefore he hath not died for any sin of such as shall be guilty of this and as for his owne he died to prevent their falling into and to keep them from this sin for he died to bring them unto God that they might have the Adoption of sons that they might be sanctified and live unto righteousness be made righteous yea the righteousness of God as is clear 1 Pet. 2 24. Gal. 4 4. Heb. 10 10. 2 Cor. 5 21. 1 Pet. 3 18. Rom. 5 19. what then will this Quaker say to this Final unbeleef is certainly a sin and Christ either died for it or not if he died for it than it can be laid to no mans charge or Christ's death is of no value If he died not for it he died not for all the sinnes of al● men but at most for some sinnes of all men and if that was all no man could thereby be saved for one sin is enough to procure damnation 21. Moreover 10 we finde the Persons for whom this price of blood was laid down designed more particularly and the Object of this Redemption restricted and so it could not be for all and every one It is said to be for Many Esai 53 11. Math. 20 28. and 26.28 Mark 10 45. Heb. 9 28. and what these many are is abundantly declared in other Scriptures where they are called Christ's Sheep Ioh. 10 15. Christ's People Mat. 1 21. His People whom according to the predictions of the Prophets which have been since the world began he should save from their enemies and from the hand of all that hate them to performe the mercy promised to the Fathers and to remember his holy covenant the oath which he swore to Father Abraham that he would grant unto them that being delivered out of the hand of their enemies they might serve him without fear in holiness and righteousness before him all the dayes of their life Luk. 1 68 70 71 72 73 74 75. His Church Ephes. 5 25 Act. 20 28. His Body Ephes. 5 23. The Children of God that were scattered abroad Ioh. 11 52. Sones Sanctified Brethren the Children that God gave him the Seed of Abraham Heb. 2 10 11 12 13 14 16 17. They are the Sheep that shall infallibly beleeve because sheep Ioh. 10 26. and Whom Christ knoweth and of whom he is known vers 14 and such as shall heare his voice vers 16. and follow him vers 27. to whom he will give eternal life so that they shall never perish and who are given to him of his Father vers 28.29 and the Elect 2 Tim 2 10 He is bread
themselves Are not these sufficient to evidence to all the world how the Quakers vilify the Scriptures of truth 5. Do they not disswade all in their writings as the cited passages evidence from reading or studying the Scriptures or from expecting any light or comfort from them Though Christ in express termes commanded to search the Scriptures Yet they perswade to the contrary And is not this a clear proof of their undervalueing of the Scriptures 6. Whereunto else tendeth that expression of Fisher's in his Velata quaedam revelato p. 4. Ye have Moses the Prophets within you but to disparage and vilify the Scriptures See also Parnel p. 11. For the Scripture is within and was read within before it was read without 7. Is it not a manifest vilifying of Scripture to say that there is no light in it Yet so faith The lip of truth opened p. 7. That light is in the Scriptures prove that or tell me what one Scripture hath light in it 8. Do not they say that wha● is held forth in the Scriptures is not bindeing to us Naylor love to the lost p. 16. for all the Saints have their commands in the Spirit but yours is in the letter and so another ministration We have mentioned more above Chap. IV. to this purpose and is not this sufficient to declare the Scriptures null in their esteem 9. What else doth that of Iohn Story in his discovery savour of And I. A. further saith let light without be guide to light within Reply if by this exhortation I. A. meanes that light without should try true light within which shines in the hearts of the Saints then I must needs say it is a very absurd and foolish exhortation and being spoken upon a divine account it is full of idolatry and evil 10. Do not the fore cited passages fully clear that in the Quakers judgment we can●ot come by the Scriptures to the knowledge of God or of Christ or of ourselves And is not that sufficient to disparage the Scriptures 11. Wh●n Christ himself made use of the Scriptures to repel the temptations of Satan Mat. 4. Can we think the Quakers ha●e any high esteem for the Scriptures who declare them utterly useless as to this as Martin Mason doth in his Loving Invitation p. 11 12. Can they value the Scriptures aright who desire the Lord that he would stripe us of all our knowledge of the Scripture and say that they only make us wise to oppose truth and so bring us into a state of condemnation wrath and misery beyond the heathen See Pennington's quaest p. 12. See also W. Pen's Spirit of truth p. 23. 13. Do they not undervalue the Scriptures who still set them in opposition to the Spirit And is not this the common language of the Quakers 14 If the Quakers have an high opinion of the Scriptures what meaneth all these expressions in the Morning watch Pap. 22.23 of them and of the doctrines received from them viz Traditions of men earthly root darkness and confusion Nebuchadnezzars image Putrefaction and corruption rotten and deceitful all out of the li●e and power of God Apostacy the whores cup the mark of the Beast Babylon the Mother of harlots Bastards brought forth of flesh and ●lood the birth that persecutes the son and heire Babylons brats and children graven images c. These sure are no expressions of great estimation 15. What shall we think of what the same Author saith p. 45. So amongst the words you finde how the Saints in some things walked and what they practised and then you strive to make something to yourselves and to observe it and do it as near as yo● can and here you are found transgressours of the Law of God who saith thou shalt not make to thy self any graven image nor the likeness of any thing Now what difference is there in the ground betwixt you and the Pope Hath this man the same esteem of the Scriptures that Paul had when he said Rom. 15 4. For whatsoever things were w●itten afore time were writen for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope 16. Do we not all know how reproachfully the Papists speak of the Scriptures And do not Quakers and they go one way here Let any look Mr Faldo's parallel in the end of Chap. 12. of his book Pag. 131. c. and judge If this be not enough to discover what enemies to and undervaluers of the Scriptures the Quakers are I know not if we can get any more out of hell See what is said above Chap. IV. § 2. 4. 12. 5. What saith he more H●nce moreover because we say that their clatterings and outward faith of an external life passion and death of Christ will no more justify them in the sight of God then the Iewes crying the Temple of the Lord c. but that they must acknowledge a Christ within themselves whom they have crucified to be risen and justifying and redeeming them from all iniquity they say we deny the li●e suffering and death of Christ and justification by his blood and remission of sinnes through him Answ. What meaneth he by that ill favoured word clatterings garritiunculae It hath no sound in lat●ne and no good sound in Eng●ish in this mater And what meaneth he by an external faith And what meane●h he by an external faith of an external life and death of Christ These expressions are very quakerish that is unsavoury salt of non-sense But when he layeth all the weight of justification and redemption on a thing which they call Christ within every man formerly crucified but now risen is not that as much as if they denied all that Christ did for our Redemption and Justification an Pardon through his righteousness and blood What this man hath said of these things we have seen and examined and because he would fame wipe off this Aspersion from his fraternity let us see what they say in this mater Mr Faldo will help us to some others then we have seen and mentioned formerly 1. What meaneth that expression of Ed● Burrughs Tru●pe● c. ● 17. All that are called Presbyterians and Independents with their seeding upon the report of a thing dead many hundered yeers ago And that of Farnworth what righteousness Christ performed without me was not my justification neither was I saved by it Is not this a plaine denial of justification through C●rist and h●s righteousness Pennington quaestions p. 2● is clear enough Can saith he outward blood clause the conscience Can outward water wash the soul clean Parnel's Shield of truth p. 30. And this we witness who through the Lamb our Saviour do reigne above the world death hell and the Devil But none can witness this whose eye is outward looking at a Redeemer a far off Morning watch p. 21. And conclude to themselves a beliefe in Christ and apply his promises what he did for them in the body that
suffered without the gates of Ierusalem and by his death and offering all things is accomplished for them and no sin shall be imputed to them though they live in it that is are not Quakers and through his Mediation and Intercession for them as ●e is at the right hand of God at a distance from them they bele●ve that they have access to God and are accepted of him and yet they neither know God nor Christ nor the place where they sa● he sits at the right hand of God and being in their minde perswaded that Christ hath satisfied and hath reconciled them to God though they be yet in their sinnes that is not Quakers This evidenceth what account they make of a Christ without and of his Righteousness 2. What doth their common taking of a Spiritual body bloud which Christ had which came downe from heaven mean Do they mean by the blood of Christ the blood that came from that man that died a Ierusalem as a sacrifice for sin No they cannot mean that for that is but outward blood that cannot cleanse the conscience This body was but his Temple or Vessel and not his body which went to heaven And this it seemeth they have learned from Mahomet who speaketh of Christ in his Alcoran not much unlike to this Azoar XI what mean they by that Spiritual body whereof that blood was a part which Christ brought with him from heaven and which dwelt for a while in the man Jesus who died at Ierusalem Can such as talk thus be orthodox in this mater Do they not meane by the blood through which Justification and purifying cometh the blood of that spiritual body which Christ brought from heaven with him and which is in every Quaker as really as in Mary●s Son Do they mean by the body of Christ that bo●y which was crucified at Ierusalem Or not rather the thing which they call a Spiritual body which tabernackled in the body of Jesus the Son of Mary and which is as well in them as it was in him And is not this to deny the life and death of Christ without us and Justification thereby Do they mean by Christ by whom we are justified and saved God-man or a real man that was born of Mary assumed into the subsistence of the Godhead Or any thing created and that was visible to the bodily eye or any thing but that which is within themselves What else meaneth that expression of Penningtons quaest p 20. For that which he that is Christ took upon him was our garment but he is of an heavenly nature and his flesh and bloud and bones are of his nature And p. 33. This we certainly know and can never call the bodily garment Christ but that which appeared and dwelt in the body Do they not hereby deny the man Christ Jesus and any interest in him who was of the seed of Abraham and had our nature and is ma● still in glory Of all this we need doubt no more now since G. Keith hath so fully unvailed this mystery in his late book now come to hand wherein instead of confuting that Postcript to Mr Rutherfoords letters which he pretended he hath more then sufficiently confirm●d the same as may be shown in due time 3. Do they not deny that Christ who came in the fulness of time according to the Prophecies and promises and took on our nature and suffered therein and renunce all benefite thereby when they say that Christ's nature is not humane and talk of his being now manifested in the flesh that is in them who are Quakers See Fox's mystery c. p. 71. what else can be the import of their denying a Christ without and calling it a carnal Christ but a plaine denying of him who was touched with the feeling of our infirmities and was in all points tempted like as we are yet without sin 4. When they ascribe salvation to a Christ within do they not deny the Christ without Fox in his great mystery p 8. And no one knowes salvation but who knowes thi● Christ in you who is the Salvation and where he is within there is salvation Fox the younger p. 49.50.54 And you whom the power of the prince of the air hath led out of me you scorn me the light in you They have disobeyed it and called it a natural light and ye have said that I the light am not able to save those that beleeve in me That if you would believe and wait in me the light I will purg out all your iniquities and forgive all your trespasses and I will change your nature and make you new Creatures if ye will hearken to me and obey the light in you Smith Cat. c. p. 64.71 And this Christ in us is he in whom our salvation standeth as the mediator between God and man the man Christ Iesus and we also know and beleeve that he is the same Chri●t in us which in dispensations past did humble himself to the cross Mason's loving Invit p. 5. If ever man be justified by his maker then by believing in God's Covenant of light which in the conscience bears its testimony against all iniquity then let me ●or ever be condemned from the presence of the righteous God Smith prim p. 9. tels us expresly tha● the Christ without and the Christ within have no more followship together than the East hath with West And therefore the asserting of the one must be a quite destroying of the other Hear once more the Morning watch p. 41. And as you give up to that measure of light in your own consciences and wait to be guided by it and exercised in it you will know Christ revealed within you whom you are looking ●or without you and put his day far off from you and so live in want of him and know not how to come to him nor the place where to finde him but live in the dreamings and night visions and have a talk of him and what he hath done for you and so spend your precious time in slumbering and dreaming c. 5 What meaneth that of Ed. Burroughs p 31. cited by Mr Hicks in his 2. Dial. Pag. 21.22 Silence flesh wouldst thou who art an enemy to God know how we are reconciled to God and by what obedience Owne the light in thy conscience and be obedient to that then thou shalt know by what obedience we are r●conciled to God c. is this to speak soundly of the Righteousness of Christ 6. What meane they by Christ's sufferings still and by satisfaction made by Christs sufferings in his saints Burroughs p. 31. saith Thou blasphemer askest thou knowest not what is not ●hrist the same as ever And is not the sufferings of Christ satisfactory wherever We need adde no more there being enough here to discover their renunceing of the sufferings and death of Christ who died at Ierusalem as being any way satisfactory to the justice of God or sinnes 6.