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A14057 A new dialogue vvherin is conteyned the examinatio[n] of the messe and of that kynde of priesthode, whych is ordeined to saye messe: and to offer vp for remyssyon of synne, the body and bloud of Christe agayne. Turner, William, d. 1568. 1548 (1548) STC 24363; ESTC S108032 34,102 104

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at xxiiii yeares of your age and an ende of it when ye dye therfore ye are not Preistes of the order of Melchisedech Are ye preistes of Moyses lawe P phylargy no. knouule Yf that ye be neyther preistes of the order of Melchisedech neyther of Aarons order by what auctorite take ye in hande to stande at altares offerynge vp of outwarde sacrifices when as in the new Testamente it is neyther laufull to bylde altare neyther to offer vpon it any outwarde sacrfeice seynge that by the sacryfyce that Christe offered on the crosse all altares and outwarde sacryfyces were abrogated and laufully put downe Porphyry We haue altares in the new testamente and outwarde Sacrifyces allowed also euen of Christe in the .v. of Matthew in these wordes When thou shalte offer vp thy rewarde at the altare and shall there remembre that thy brother hath somethynge agaynst thee leaue thy rewarde ther before the altare and go and be fyrste broughte in fauoure wyth thy brother and then come and offer thy rewarde Lo here oure master Christe maketh mention bothe of a rewarde and also of an altare Therfore in the newe Testament we maye bothe haue altares and also outwarde offerynges knouuelege All they that haue any ryghte vnderstandyng in scriptur cā tel that Christ sayd these wordes whyche ye haue rehersed vnto the Ieues which as yet wer vnder the law vsed outward sacrifices The sacrifices ceremonies of Moses law dyd so longe indure tyl that Christes sacrifice which was perfigured sygnified before by the Iewes outwarde sacrifice which was ones fynished and offered But as sone as Christe had offered vp hys sacryfyce on the Crosse whych was to him as a certayn altare all outwarde sacryfyces altares and oblations was abrogated put down Neuerthelesse vnto that tyme he forbad no Sacrifice or oblation ordened by Moyses to be offered Christe a mynister of the newe testament before hys passion was circūcised he came to the tēple or Hierusalē and cate the Iewes Pascal lābe after the order of Moyses law shal we therfore be circūcised shal we come to the tēple of Hierusalē shal we be boūd also to eat the Ieues paschal lambe after the order of Moyses law Therfore the place which ye haue reher sed here before maketh nothing for altares oblatiōs to be had emong christen mē after the Christ hath suffred hys passiō which was so perfyt a sacrifyce or oblation that ther neded neuer mo after that to be offred to take sines away Ther fore your mestres missa ye that wyll haue styll both altares and outwarde sacrifices for synnes are enemyes vnto Christes moste holy worde whyche dothe in many places testify that at a certayne tyme all outwarde acryfyces shoulde haue an ende and that the tyme was when Christe offered him selfe a sufficiente sacrifice for the redemptiō of the whole worlde To proue thys that I haue sayde to be true fyrste I wyll shew by the scrypture that the offeryng vp of sacryfyces was no moral precepte and therfore not euerlastyng but a temporall and ceremonyall too serue the infancy and weakenes of the Iewes a whyle that is to the tyme of perfectiō Esaye in the fyrst chapter of his prophecy wryteth thus What shal I do wyth your manyfolde sacryfyces sayeth the Lorde The burnte sacrifyces of rammes and the fat of the beastes doo I lothe I loue not the bloude yf oxen lambes and gotes When ye shal come to appere before me who requyreth it of your hāde that ye should treade on my courutes Brynge youre rewarde nomōre in vayne Ieremy also wryteth thus in the fyrste Chapter Wherfore bryngeste thou me Frankincense oute of Stba and calamus and ambre oute of a farre lande You re burned offerynges please me not and youre Sacrifyces are not swete vnto me God sayethe also in the .v. of Amos these wordes I defye your holy dayes neyther wyll I smell in youre Congregations and when ye shall sacryfyce vnto me burnt offerynges and sacryfyces of meate they shall not be acceptable vnto me and I wyl not loke vpon the offerynges of fattes O house of Israell haue ye offered in the wyldernes for the space of .xl. yeres offerynges and sacrifyces vnto me The same sentēce is wrytē in the .xl. Pslame The same matter is conteyned in the Li. Psalme in these wordes Thou art not delyted in hostes or offerynges or elles I would haue offred Thou wylt haue no burnt sacryfyce and hostes to be offered but thes sacrifices wylt thou not dyspyse a sorofull spyrite a lowe brought harte a contritt Dauid maketh mētion of the same mater in the .xl psalme Thou louest not a sacrifice and an offeryng of meate but thou hast bored thorow myn eares thou hast not requirey burnt sacrifice hostes to be offered vp for syn Paul also in the .x. chap. of the epistle to the Hebrewes wryteth thus of the abrogation of ceremonies sacrifices and oblatiōs of the old law The lawe hauynge a shaddow of good thinges of to come not beyng the patrō it selfe can neuer make thē that ar vnder it perfit with thy oblations which it offerethe the very same contynually euery yere or els should offering haue bē left of because they which had offred vp sacryfyce and had therby clensed purifyed shoulde haue had frō thēcefurth nomore grudge of syn in theyr cōscience But in these is a remēbraūce of synnes yearly For the bloud of bulles and gotes cā not take away syn Wherfore when he was obout to come in to the world he sayd Thou wouldest not haue sacryfyce and oblation but thou haste made fyt a body to me and thou haste not allowed burnte Sacryfyces for synne Then sayde I here come I it is wrytten in the begynnynge of the booke of me that I shoulde doo thy wyll O God When he sayeth before thou wouldest not haue sacrifyce oblation and burnte offerynges for synnis neyther dyddest thou allowe them that are offered after the maner of the Law then sayd he here am I O god to doo thy wyll He taketh awaye the former that he maye stablishe and sette vp the latter by the whyche wyll we are made holye and sanctyfyed by the offerynge vp of the bodye of Iesus Chryste ones fynysshed and donne Nowe oute of these places of scripture whych I haue rehersed I gather that all outwarde oblations burnt offeringes sacryfyces and oblations both of beastes and of meat as of bread such lyke was quiet abrogated put down at that tyme when oure sauioure Iesus Christe offered vp on the Crosse hys moost blessed and perfyte sacryfyce whyche was prefygured and signifyed before longe tyme by the oblacions and sacryfices nowe put downe and abrogated Yf that all kyndes of sacrifices of vestes and meates be abrogated by Chrystes Sacryfyce we oughte to haue nomore outwarde sacrifyces Then ye mestres Missa wyth youre Chaplaynes do amisse to set v● that whych Christ put downe yea and thoughe Christe had