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A87511 Uniformity in humane doctrinall ceremonies ungrounded on 1 Cor. 14.40. or, a reply unto Dr. Hammonds vindication of his grounds of uniformity from the 1 Cor. 14.40. By Henry Jeanes, minister of Gods word at Chedzoy Jeanes, Henry, 1611-1662. 1660 (1660) Wing J510; ESTC R231583 113,930 100

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722._o you_o may_v take_v notice_n of_o this_o passage_n non_fw-la constituit_fw-la haee_fw-la jententia_fw-la regnum_fw-la episcopis_fw-la extra_fw-la aut_fw-la supra_fw-la evangelium_fw-la non_fw-la debent_fw-la episcopi_fw-la svas_fw-la traditiones_fw-la aut_fw-la leges_fw-la aut_fw-la contra_fw-la aut_fw-la extra_fw-la aut_fw-la praeter_fw-la evangelium_fw-la obtrudere_fw-la obediendum_fw-la ergo_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la cum_fw-la cautione_n si_fw-la praeeant_fw-la illi_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la &_o nil_fw-la suum_fw-la tradunt_fw-la nam_fw-la si_fw-la hoc_fw-la fecerit_fw-la omittendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la juxta_fw-la illud_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la nos_fw-la aut_fw-la angelus_n e_fw-la coelo_fw-la evangelizet_n vobis_fw-la praeter_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la vobis_fw-la evangelizavimus_fw-la anathemae_fw-la esto_fw-la gal._n 1.8_o let_v the_o reader_n consider_v whether_o our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o institute_v praeter_fw-la evangelium_fw-la beside_o the_o gospel_n a_o second_o argument_n 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