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A85394 Hagiomastix, or The scourge of the saints displayed in his colours of ignorance & blood: or, a vindication of some printed queries published some moneths since by authority, in way of answer to certaine anti-papers of syllogismes, entituled a Vindication of a printed paper, &c. ... / By John Goodwin, pastor of a Church of Christ in Colemanstreet. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1647 (1647) Wing G1169; Thomason E374_1; ESTC R201334; ESTC R201335 139,798 168

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when_o there_o be_v any_o division_n of_o vote_n among_o they_o four_o and_o last_o if_o the_o magistrate_n be_v bind_v in_o the_o case_n under_o consideration_n to_o cleave_v either_o to_o the_o one_o party_n or_o the_o other_o whether_o the_o lesser_a or_o the_o great_a and_o to_o smite_v that_o with_o his_o sword_n as_o error_n or_o heresy_n which_o either_o of_o they_o adjudge_v for_o such_o he_o stand_v bind_v likewise_o to_o punish_v and_o smite_v with_o the_o sword_n that_o whole_a party_n of_o minister_n as_o erroneous_a and_o heretical_a who_o judgement_n he_o reject_v in_o the_o consultation_n though_o when_o he_o call_v they_o hereunto_o he_o look_v upon_o they_o as_o godly_a orthodox_n and_o faithful_a and_o if_o case_n of_o this_o nature_n shall_v frequent_o happen_v i_o mean_v wherein_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o advise_v with_o his_o godly_a minister_n for_o his_o information_n about_o error_n and_o heresy_n and_o these_o minister_n be_v divide_v in_o their_o judgement_n about_o they_o and_o the_o magistrate_n be_v bind_v to_o punish_v error_n and_o heresy_n with_o the_o sword_n which_o that_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o hand_n now_o oppose_v by_o we_o impose_v upon_o he_o as_o a_o duty_n he_o shall_v still_o toties_fw-la quoties_fw-la and_o from_o time_n to_o time_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o destroy_v or_o molest_v one_o party_n of_o the_o godly_a minister_n under_o he_o and_o so_o ere_o long_o must_v needs_o make_v a_o sad_a desolation_n in_o his_o territory_n of_o such_o man_n therefore_o four_o and_o last_o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v concern_v the_o magistrate_n that_o he_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n a_o revenger_n to_o execute_v wrath_n upon_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a etc._n etc._n that_o indefinite_a expression_n he_o that_o do_v evil_a be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v or_o understand_v universal_o for_o whosoever_o do_v evil_a after_o what_o manner_n or_o in_o what_o kind_n soever_o but_o with_o limitation_n pro_fw-la subjecta_fw-la materia_fw-la 1._o for_o the_o doer_n of_o such_o or_o of_o that_o kind_n of_o evil_a which_o appertain_v to_o the_o cognizance_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o whereof_o ordinary_a magistrate_n or_o magistrate_n in_o general_a as_o well_o heathen_a as_o christian_n be_v competent_a judge_n as_o all_o such_o evil_n be_v which_o be_v manifest_o such_o and_o of_o a_o political_a consideration_n as_o that_o which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o light_n and_o law_n of_o nature_n as_o whoredom_n adultery_n murder_n theft_n injustice_n sedition_n treason_n etc._n etc._n that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a interpretation_n and_o meaning_n of_o this_o scripture_n be_v further_a confirm_v first_o by_o the_o like_a expression_n of_o frequent_a occurrence_n in_o the_o 47._o sect._n 47._o scripture_n viz._n where_o indefinite_a yea_o and_o sometime_o universal_a expression_n be_v use_v to_o signify_v not_o a_o simple_a or_o absolute_a but_o a_o relative_a 48._o sect._n 48._o or_o restrain_a universality_n of_o thing_n i._n e._n either_o a_o universality_n of_o such_o thing_n which_o be_v particular_o treat_v of_o in_o those_o place_n where_o these_o expression_n be_v find_v or_o of_o such_o who_o nature_n or_o condition_n be_v reasonable_o capable_a of_o those_o thing_n which_o either_o be_v attribute_v to_o they_o or_o enjoin_v concern_v they_o in_o such_o expression_n as_o for_o example_n god_n himself_o say_v exod._n 12._o 48._o that_o no_o uncircumcised_a person_n shall_v eat_v of_o the_o passover_n yet_o this_o general_a or_o universal_a expression_n be_v not_o to_o be_v extend_v unto_o woman_n of_o the_o daughter_n of_o abraham_n as_o if_o they_o be_v restrain_v hereby_o from_o eat_v the_o passeover_n because_o they_o be_v person_n uncircumcised_a the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o note_n or_o universality_n no_o in_o the_o prohibition_n no_o uncircumcised_a person_n shall_v eat_v etc._n etc._n import_v not_o a_o absolute_a but_o only_o a_o relative_a universality_n viz._n of_o all_o that_o kind_n of_o uncircumcised_a person_n which_o the_o verse_n speak_v of_o which_o be_v male_n who_o also_o be_v the_o only_a person_n capable_a of_o circumcision_n so_o when_o the_o apostle_n command_v the_o thessalonian_o that_o if_o any_o will_v not_o work_v he_o shall_v not_o eat_v 10._o eat_v 2_o thess_n 3._o 10._o his_o meaning_n be_v not_o to_o forbid_v nourishment_n or_o food_n to_o be_v give_v either_o to_o sick_a or_o lunatic_a person_n or_o to_o young_a child_n or_o to_o any_o person_n whatsoever_o uncapable_a of_o work_v but_o only_o unto_o those_o who_o change_v a_o ability_n of_o work_v into_o idleness_n and_o stubborn_o refuse_v to_o labour_v in_o a_o call_n so_o in_o the_o scripture_n in_o hand_n when_o he_o say_v indefinite_o that_o ruler_n be_v not_o a_o terror_n to_o good_a work_n but_o to_o evil_a the_o word_n ruler_n do_v not_o signify_v all_z ruler_n whatsoever_o but_o only_o such_o who_o rule_n according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n for_o otherwise_o we_o know_v there_o be_v many_o ruler_n who_o act_n contrary_a to_o this_o rule_n or_o assertion_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o be_v a_o terror_n not_o to_o evil_a work_n but_o to_o good_a in_o like_a manner_n when_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n to_o execute_v wrath_n upon_o or_o against_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a by_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a it_o be_v no_o way_n necessary_a that_o he_o shall_v mean_v every_o man_n without_o exception_n who_o do_v that_o which_o be_v evil_a in_o one_o kind_n or_o other_o but_o only_o every_o man_n that_o do_v any_o such_o evil_a which_o be_v of_o a_o political_a cognizance_n and_o proper_a for_o a_o magistrate_n as_o a_o magistrate_n to_o punish_v second_o if_o by_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a in_o this_o scripture_n be_v 48._o sect._n 48._o mean_v every_o man_n without_o exception_n that_o do_v any_o kind_n of_o evil_a then_o shall_v the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o be_v enjoin_v by_o he_o by_o way_n of_o duty_n to_o punish_v man_n for_o conceive_v 49._o sect._n 49._o evil_a thought_n for_o commit_v adultery_n in_o the_o heart_n for_o covet_v that_o which_o be_v another_o man_n without_o do_v any_o thing_n outward_o which_o be_v evil_a or_o injurious_a to_o he_o etc._n etc._n for_o whosoever_o do_v any_o of_o these_o thing_n most_o certain_o do_v that_o which_o be_v evil_a but_o if_o we_o shall_v suppose_v that_o the_o magistrate_n stand_v bind_v by_o his_o office_n to_o execute_v wrath_n upon_o such_o evil_a doer_n as_o these_o we_o have_v need_n make_v they_o god_n indeed_o and_o give_v they_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n or_o else_o we_o shall_v make_v they_o little_a better_o than_o devil_n by_o bring_v the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n and_o of_o unfaithfulnesse_n in_o their_o place_n upon_o their_o head_n without_o end_n three_o if_o god_n shall_v require_v of_o the_o magistrate_n to_o execute_v wrath_n upon_o spreader_n of_o error_n and_o heresy_n as_o evil_a doer_n he_o shall_v be_v a_o hard_a master_n indeed_o and_o think_v to_o gather_v where_o he_o have_v not_o strew_v and_o to_o reap_v where_o he_o have_v not_o sow_o 24._o sow_o mat._n 25._o 24._o for_o doubtless_o he_o neither_o have_v give_v nor_o do_v give_v any_o sufficiency_n of_o mean_n to_o discern_v between_o heresy_n and_o sound_a doctrine_n between_o error_n and_o truth_n at_o least_o in_o many_o point_n in_o christian_a religion_n to_o one_o magistrate_n of_o a_o hundred_o i_o may_v i_o believe_v keep_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o truth_n and_o say_v of_o a_o thousand_o especial_o if_o we_o shall_v look_v upon_o those_o magistrate_n which_o be_v then_o in_o be_v in_o the_o world_n when_o this_o scripture_n be_v write_v and_o upon_o occasion_n of_o who_o power_n to_o execute_v wrath_n upon_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a this_o admonition_n be_v give_v by_o the_o apostle_n unto_o the_o roman_n it_o will_v clear_o be_v find_v that_o they_o general_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v what_o be_v error_n and_o heresy_n what_o truth_n and_o orthodox_n in_o christian_a religion_n that_o they_o judge_v this_o religion_n itself_o to_o be_v the_o grand_a error_n and_o heresy_n of_o the_o world_n four_o that_o by_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a in_o the_o clause_n under_o debate_n 49._o sect._n 49._o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o mean_a spreader_n of_o error_n or_o heresy_n in_o christian_a religion_n but_o only_o the_o actor_n of_o such_o impiety_n which_o be_v know_v to_o be_v such_o by_o the_o heathen_a magistrate_n who_o then_o bare_a rule_n over_o they_o be_v evident_a from_o the_o context_n itself_o and_o the_o import_n of_o the_o same_o expression_n in_o the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o same_o verse_n which_o be_v this_o for_o he_o the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o minister_n
so_o clear_a in_o any_o other_o church_n as_o it_o be_v here_o in_o england_n i_o see_v the_o moral_a of_o the_o fable_n verify_v if_o a_o man_n be_v the_o painter_n the_o lion_n shall_v be_v make_v to_o couch_v at_o his_o foot_n three_o that_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o be_v not_o settle_v in_o other_o kingdom_n or_o state_n as_o it_o be_v among_o we_o it_o seem_v they_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o clear_n and_o settle_v and_o so_o i_o believe_v that_o in_o their_o sense_n there_o be_v a_o very_a great_a difference_n indeed_o the_o former_a be_v god_n way_n the_o latter_a mens_fw-la in_o the_o four_o place_n they_o add_v it_o may_v just_o be_v believe_v that_o if_o he_o calvin_n be_v now_o alive_a in_o this_o kingdom_n he_o will_v not_o publish_v or_o maintain_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n as_o it_o be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o law_n and_o ordinance_n of_o this_o realm_n but_o may_v not_o the_o justness_n of_o these_o man_n belief_n in_o this_o case_n be_v just_o question_v be_v it_o a_o just_a or_o righteous_a thing_n to_o believe_v or_o to_o suppose_v that_o a_o man_n of_o worth_n of_o able_a part_n of_o eminent_a learning_n of_o a_o compose_a judgement_n of_o a_o tender_a conscience_n will_v balk_v with_o god_n and_o his_o own_o soul_n in_o shun_v to_o declare_v what_o upon_o mature_a study_n upon_o diligent_a and_o faithful_a inquiry_n he_o judge_v to_o be_v the_o counsel_n or_o will_n of_o god_n through_o fear_n of_o a_o ordinance_n or_o law_n in_o a_o civil_a state_n i_o believe_v if_o calvin_n be_v now_o alive_a whether_o in_o this_o kingdom_n or_o in_o any_o other_o he_o will_v con_v these_o gentleman_n small_a thanks_n for_o such_o a_o commendation_n the_o dregs_o settle_v in_o the_o bottom_n of_o this_o answer_n be_v these_o can_v it_o be_v less_o than_o a_o wilful_a slander_n and_o malicious_a purpose_n of_o render_v the_o ordinance_n odious_a to_o name_v death_n as_o a_o punishment_n for_o maintain_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o ordinance_n and_o law_n about_o the_o lord_n day_n etc._n etc._n but_o so_o this_o querist_n deal_v in_o other_o of_o his_o query_n etc._n etc._n but_o let_v charity_n or_o reason_n or_o common_a sense_n or_o who_o you_o will_v judge_n whether_o it_o be_v less_o than_o a_o wilful_a slander_n and_o malicious_a purpose_n of_o render_v the_o querist_n odious_a without_o a_o cause_n to_o charge_v he_o with_o name_v death_n as_o a_o punishment_n for_o maintain_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o ordinance_n and_o law_n about_o the_o lord_n day_n to_o queree_n whether_o calvin_n deserve_v either_o imprisonment_n or_o death_n for_o teach_v and_o maintain_v etc._n etc._n which_o be_v the_o tenor_n of_o the_o queree_n be_v this_o to_o charge_v 56._o sect._n 56._o the_o ordinance_n with_o threaten_a death_n as_o a_o punishment_n for_o maintain_v any_o thing_n about_o the_o lord_n day_n against_o the_o ordinance_n and_o law_n if_o not_o how_o can_v it_o render_v the_o ordinance_n odious_a except_o haply_o it_o be_v either_o in_o the_o jealous_a conscience_n of_o such_o man_n who_o be_v under_o some_o regret_n and_o secret_a counterworking_n of_o conscience_n through_o fear_n lest_o the_o ordinance_n though_o please_v to_o they_o that_o be_v to_o their_o flesh_n shall_v yet_o be_v odious_a indeed_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n or_o else_o in_o the_o over-jealous_a conceit_n of_o those_o who_o chief_a hope_n and_o comfort_n on_o earth_n be_v bind_v up_o in_o the_o honour_n and_o success_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o who_o lie_v under_o the_o bondage_n of_o this_o fear_n that_o if_o the_o ordinance_n shall_v prove_v odious_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n themselves_o shall_v suffer_v and_o bear_v the_o same_o burden_n with_o it_o to_o say_v that_o nicholas_n or_o matthew_n or_o any_o other_o person_n be_v either_o homo_fw-la or_o brutum_n be_v it_o any_o way_n to_o name_n or_o intimate_v that_o brutu●s_v be_v either_o the_o genus_fw-la or_o species_n of_o either_o but_o when_o man_n mind_n be_v set_v to_o do_v unworthy_o they_o become_v uncapable_a of_o great_a difference_n then_o be_v between_o conjunctive_a and_o dis-junctive_a particle_n though_o there_o be_v no_o such_o affinity_n or_o likeness_n between_o these_o which_o need_v encumber_v any_o sober_a man_n judgement_n in_o or_o about_o their_o dijudication_n but_o gangraena_fw-la and_o her_o paramour_n have_v justify_v all_o the_o son_n of_o presbytery_n beside_o in_o all_o their_o slander_n calumny_n false_a aspersion_n malicious_a imputation_n and_o report_n they_o that_o be_v malicious_a be_v not_o malicious_a in_o comparison_n of_o he_o that_o superabounds_a in_o malice_n omnis_fw-la caesarea_n cedat_fw-la labour_n amphitheatro_fw-la unused_a pro_fw-la cunct_n be_v fama_fw-la loquatur_fw-la opus_fw-la let_v all_o man_n malice_n give_v gangraena_fw-la place_n let_v fame_n instead_o of_o all_o this_o one_o piece_n grace_n in_o their_o answer_n to_o their_o twelve_o argument_n if_o they_o mean_v as_o 56._o sect._n 56._o they_o say_v they_o make_v some_o part_n of_o atonement_n for_o their_o delinquency_n against_o the_o query_n hitherto_o for_o here_o they_o grant_v that_o no_o man_n be_v punishable_a for_o his_o mere_a mistake_n whatever_o his_o opinion_n be_v but_o for_o be_v so_o pertinacious_a in_o his_o mistake_n in_o matter_n of_o great_a consequence_n as_o that_o he_o will_v not_o forbear_v to_o publish_v his_o mistake_n to_o the_o infection_n of_o other_o and_o the_o mischief_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o to_o the_o ruin_n or_o at_o least_o miserable_a 57_o sect._n 57_o disturbance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n i_o free_o acknowledge_v that_o whosoever_o out_o of_o pertinacy_n in_o his_o mistake_n not_o only_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a consequence_n but_o even_o of_o lesser_a will_v not_o forbear_v to_o publish_v his_o mistake_n to_o the_o infection_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n i._n e._n with_o a_o desire_n or_o intention_n to_o infect_v and_o mischief_n the_o soul_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n deserve_v severe_o to_o be_v punish_v nor_o shall_v i_o ever_o plead_v mercy_n for_o such_o a_o man_n if_o the_o ordinance_n have_v explain_v itself_o after_o any_o such_o manner_n as_o this_o i_o i_o presume_v with_o many_o other_o shall_v have_v be_v satisfy_v in_o it_o without_o any_o more_o ado_n and_o not_o have_v need_v to_o crave_v satisfaction_n about_o it_o as_o now_o we_o have_v do_v but_o in_o case_n any_o man_n shall_v real_o and_o conscientious_o judge_v that_o opinion_n of_o he_o which_o other_o call_v a_o mistake_n and_o perhaps_o be_v so_o indeed_o to_o be_v a_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o shall_v withal_o real_o judge_v that_o he_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o hold_v forth_o such_o a_o opinion_n as_o be_v in_o his_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n the_o undoubted_a truth_n of_o god_n and_o withal_o necessary_a to_o be_v publish_v and_o make_v know_v unto_o man_n for_o their_o spiritual_a benefit_n and_o good_a in_o case_n i_o say_v the_o publish_n of_o his_o opinion_n or_o mistake_n upon_o such_o term_n as_o these_o shall_v prove_v the_o infection_n of_o other_o or_o inconvenience_n or_o if_o you_o will_v mischief_n the_o soul_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n i_o have_v no_o ground_n either_o in_o reason_n or_o religion_n to_o judge_v this_o man_n worthy_a either_o death_n or_o band_n nay_o if_o to_o publish_v such_o mistake_n and_o that_o even_o with_o pertinacy_n which_o tend_v to_o the_o infection_n of_o other_o and_o mischief_n of_o soul_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o matter_n worthy_a either_o death_n or_o band_n i_o have_v sufficient_a ground_n both_o in_o reason_n and_o religion_n to_o judge_v and_o think_v that_o very_o many_o minister_n of_o the_o anti-independent_a interest_n yea_o many_o of_o very_o eminent_a repute_n among_o they_o will_v upon_o due_a examination_n and_o trial_n be_v find_v in_o the_o condemnation_n the_o strength_n of_o their_o answer_n to_o their_o thirteen_o argument_n 57_o sect._n 57_o lean_v upon_o this_o staff_n that_o the_o open_a and_o public_a profession_n of_o error_n be_v more_o pernicious_a than_o the_o practice_n of_o sin_n in_o a_o like_a kind_n and_o degree_n they_o instance_n to_o teach_v there_o be_v no_o christ_n be_v more_o dangerous_a they_o say_v then_o to_o live_v as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o christ_n and_o yet_o make_v a_o profession_n of_o he_o well_o but_o my_o judgement_n and_o the_o judgement_n i_o believe_v of_o many_o more_o and_o this_o doctrine_n be_v at_o odds_n but_o these_o man_n attempt_v a_o reconciliation_n by_o the_o mediation_n of_o this_o reason_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o their_o doctrine_n the_o one_o they_o mean_v the_o public_a profession_n of_o error_n justifi_v what_o it_o do_v as_o lawful_a under_o pretend_a 57_o sect._n 57_o ground_n of_o truth_n the_o other_o practise_v and_o yet_o possible_o not_o so_o impudent_o
one_o or_o the_o other_o be_v so_o or_o such_o as_o he_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v as_o to_o the_o two_o instance_n wherein_o they_o insist_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o 91._o sect._n 91._o trinity_n and_o the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n affirm_v that_o a_o man_n ought_v not_o to_o refuse_v to_o believe_v they_o although_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o they_o he_o can_v by_o his_o reason_n comprehend_v they_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o as_o by_o my_o reason_n i_o can_v and_o do_v comprehend_v and_o know_v they_o to_o be_v incomprehensible_a so_o i_o believe_v they_o according_o to_o be_v again_o second_o as_o by_o my_o reason_n i_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v comprehend_v or_o conceive_v the_o particular_a modus_fw-la or_o manner_n of_o either_o so_o neither_o do_v i_o or_o ought_v i_o nor_o indeed_o can_v i_o without_o run_v a_o extreme_a hazard_n of_o a_o erroneous_a belief_n believe_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o concern_v they_o save_v only_o their_o incomprehensiblenesse_n in_o the_o general_a or_o that_o they_o be_v incomprehensible_a which_o as_o be_v say_v i_o be_o able_a by_o my_o reason_n to_o comprehend_v so_o then_o these_o two_o assertion_n or_o doctrine_n well_o understand_v first_o that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o he_o have_v reason_n and_o ground_n for_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o second_o t●●●_n that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o he_o be_v able_a by_o his_o reason_n to_o comprehend_v be_v but_o of_o a_o equipollent_a import_n and_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o much_o more_o nothing_o more_o erroneous_a in_o the_o one_o then_o in_o the_o other_o that_o towards_o the_o beginning_n of_o this_o answer_n yea_o there_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o a_o duplicate_v of_o it_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o answer_n too_o be_v extreme_o unreasonable_a and_o obnoxious_a wherein_o they_o suppose_v yea_o little_o less_o than_o in_o terminis_fw-la affirm_v that_o they_o that_o will_v be_v satisfy_v what_o the_o ordinance_n mean_v by_o make_v it_o a_o error_n to_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o by_o his_o reason_n he_o be_v able_a to_o comprehend_v must_v read_v the_o socinian_n book_n and_o there_o inform_v themselves_o what_o their_o proper_a opinion_n be_v for_o be_v it_o in_o any_o degree_n reasonable_a equal_a or_o just_a that_o such_o a_o ordinance_n or_o law_n shall_v be_v make_v and_o that_o for_o the_o imprisonment_n which_o be_v by_o interpretation_n the_o utter_a undo_n of_o man_n in_o case_n of_o delinquency_n the_o sense_n or_o meaning_n whereof_o they_o be_v in_o a_o utter_a incapacity_n to_o understand_v unless_o they_o read_v such_o book_n which_o first_o be_v only_o extant_a in_o such_o a_o language_n which_o not_o one_o of_o a_o hundred_o be_v able_a to_o 92._o sect._n 92._o understand_v and_o second_o be_v so_o rare_a and_o hard_o to_o be_v get_v that_o for_o the_o space_n of_o 13_o year_n and_o upward_o ever_o since_o my_o come_n to_o the_o city_n though_o i_o have_v from_o time_n to_o time_n make_v a_o narrow_a inquiry_n after_o they_o and_o lay_v out_o in_o several_a place_n where_o i_o conceive_v i_o shall_v be_v most_o likely_a to_o speed_v for_o some_o or_o other_o of_o they_o yet_o can_v i_o never_o to_o this_o day_n procure_v either_o for_o love_n or_o money_n as_o the_o say_n be_v so_o much_o as_o any_o one_o of_o they_o their_o groundless_a mistake_n about_o what_o the_o querist_n as_o they_o say_v will_v imply_v to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n in_o the_o ordinance_n and_o their_o turn_n of_o the_o querie_n with_o a_o wet_a finger_n as_o if_o there_o be_v nothing_o material_a in_o it_o but_o a_o heap●_n of_o word_n i_o pass_v by_o and_o pardon_v be_v content_a they_o shall_v be_v number_v among_o their_o infirmity_n quotidianae_fw-la incursionis_fw-la in_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o thirty_o querie_n they_o maintain_v that_o 92._o sect._n 92._o the_o ordinance_n do_v express_v what_o it_o mean_v by_o obstinacy_n when_o it_o threaten_v the_o publish_n of_o such_o and_o such_o doctrine_n with_o obstinacy_n their_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o ordinance_n appoint_v admonition_n to_o go_v before_o punishment_n but_o be_v this_o a_o explication_n of_o what_o it_o mean_v by_o obstinacy_n certain_o these_o grand_a assertor_n of_o the_o ordinance_n have_v quit_v themselves_o upon_o term_n of_o more_o wisdom_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o it_o if_o they_o have_v plain_o g●●●ted_v that_o it_o have_v not_o indeed_o make_v any_o sufficient_a explication_n of_o itself_o in_o that_o particular_a for_o be_v a_o man_n to_o be_v judge_v obstinate_a who_o shall_v do_v that_o though_o after_o admonition_n which_o his_o admonition_n notwithstanding_o he_o judge_v and_o that_o upon_o good_a ground_n to_o be_v his_o duty_n to_o do_v be_v the_o apostle_n obstinate_a for_o preach_v in_o the_o na●●_n of_o jesus_n after_o that_o the_o highpriest_n ruler_n and_o elder_n solemn_o meet_v in_o a_o council_n have_v admonish_v they_o yea_o and_o strait_o charge_v and_o command_v they_o that_o they_o shall_v in_o no_o wise_n speak_v or_o teach_v any_o more_o in_o that_o name_n 18._o name_n act._n 4._o 18._o oh_o england_n awake_a for_o i_o fear_v thou_o sleep_v look_v about_o thou_o and_o consider_v how_o easy_o and_o when_o thou_o least_o think_v of_o it_o thou_o may_v be_v a_o obstinate_a offender_n if_o man_n of_o this_o spirit_n shall_v be_v thy_o judge_n in_o their_o 31_o answer_n they_o tell_v a_o mystical_a or_o misty_a story_n of_o 93._o sect._n 93._o the_o sense_n or_o meaning_n whereof_o i_o be_o no_o way_n guilty_a yet_o i_o shall_v tell_v it_o after_o they_o because_o some_o possible_o may_v understand_v it_o though_o i_o can_v as_o some_o perhaps_o say_v they_o of_o the_o querist_n friend_n may_v be_v thank_v for_o it_o they_o speak_v of_o that_o strong_a opposition_n insinuate_v in_o 93._o sect._n 93._o the_o querie_n between_o the_o government_n establish_v by_o the_o parliament_n and_o that_o so_o importunate_o desire_v by_o the_o minister_n who_o have_v endeavour_v to_o bind_v heavy_a burden_n upon_o other_o ever_o persecute_v they_o for_o not_o yield_v to_o those_o thing_n which_o even_o the_o conscience_n of_o those_o that_o press_v they_o know_v they_o can_v and_o believe_v they_o may_v not_o yield_v unto_o so_o careful_a and_o tender_a be_v they_o of_o their_o brethren_n conscience_n so_o be_v it_o neither_o of_o that_o kind_n they_o will_v have_v it_o be_v no_o way_n in_o favour_n of_o there_o independency_n for_o first_o it_o be_v the_o strange_a news_n to_o i_o that_o i_o have_v hear_v many_o a_o day_n that_o any_o of_o my_o friend_n shall_v deserve_v thanks_n either_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o opposition_n they_o speak_v of_o between_o the_o two_o government_n i_o can_v believe_v that_o any_o person_n man_n or_o woman_n congregational_o incline_v do_v ever_o either_o persuade_v any_o of_o the_o minister_n they_o speak_v of_o to_o oppose_v that_o government_n by_o presbytery_n which_o be_v establish_v by_o the_o parliament_n nor_o yet_o distil_v into_o they_o any_o of_o that_o spirit_n or_o those_o principle_n out_o of_o which_o they_o oppose_v it_o how_o then_o shall_v they_o be_v accessary_a to_o the_o opposition_n second_o whereas_o they_o charge_v the_o friend_n of_o the_o querist_n yet_o further_o with_o endeavour_v to_o bind_v heavy_a burden_n upon_o other_o ever_o persecute_v they_o for_o not_o yield_v to_o etc._n etc._n this_o be_v tiding_n yet_o seven_o degree_n strange_a than_o the_o other_o if_o it_o be_v true_a then_o be_v the_o scandal_n of_o independency_n cease_v from_o among_o we_o for_o if_o independent_o also_o endeavour_v to_o bind_v heavy_a burden_n upon_o other_o and_o to_o persecute_v man_n for_o not_o yield_v unto_o those_o thing_n which_o in_o conscience_n they_o can_v yield_v unto_o then_o be_v we_o all_o of_o one_o mind_n and_o of_o one_o judgement_n and_o practice_n the_o same_o thing_n but_o three_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v what_o heavy_a burden_n they_o be_v which_o the_o independent_o since_o they_o must_v be_v so_o call_v endeavour_v to_o bind_v upon_o other_o do_v our_o brethren_n of_o the_o presbyterian_a interest_n call_v or_o judge_v this_o a_o heavy_a burden_n to_o be_v restrain_v from_o or_o not_o to_o have_v their_o hand_n strengthen_v by_o the_o parliament_n or_o law_n unto_o the_o trouble_v or_o molest_v of_o their_o brethren_n who_o dissent_v in_o some_o particular_n from_o they_o i_o know_v no_o other_o burden_n but_o this_o any_o way_n endeavour_v by_o any_o of_o that_o parswasion_n to_o be_v impose_v or_o bind_v upon_o they_o if_o they_o call_v or_o count_v this_o a_o burden_n better_a they_o hurthen_v with_o the_o peace_n of_o
man_n of_o a_o better_a conscience_n than_o themselves_o then_o ease_v or_o relieve_v by_o their_o unjust_a pressure_n 94._o sect._n 94._o four_o i_o be_o yet_o far_o more_o desirous_a to_o know_v what_o persecution_n they_o or_o any_o of_o their_o judgement_n have_v suffer_v from_o in_o dependent_n for_o not_o yee_v to_o those_o thing_n which_o even_o the_o conscience_n of_o those_o that_o press_v they_o know_v they_o can_v and_o believe_v they_o may_v not_o yield_v unto_o if_o they_o shall_v refer_v i_o for_o satisfaction_n herein_o to_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o the_o sequel_n of_o this_o answer_n where_o they_o speak_v of_o some_o who_o under_o the_o name_n of_o brethren_n that_o have_v so_o much_o cry_v out_o against_o persecution_n in_o their_o word_n and_o writing_n have_v yet_o attempt_v and_o proceed_v in_o the_o strange_a persecution_n that_o ever_o be_v among_o profess_a christian_n to_o wish_v and_o joy_n in_o the_o imposition_n of_o that_o upon_o their_o brethren_n which_o themselves_o who_o be_v for_o the_o imposition_n of_o it_o yet_o count_v unlawful_a to_o be_v submit_v unto_o i_o must_v profess_v that_o i_o be_o so_o far_o from_o receive_v satisfaction_n hereby_o in_o the_o least_o in_o reference_n to_o that_o desire_n that_o i_o look_v upon_o the_o reference_n as_o a_o send_n of_o i_o from_o the_o twilight_n to_o midnight_n to_o read_v a_o dim_a print_n or_o as_o a_o unworthy_a insult_a over_o my_o petition_n in_o give_v i_o a_o stone_n instead_o of_o the_o bread_n which_o i_o desire_v but._n first_o though_o the_o persecution_n they_o here_o speak_v of_o be_v as_o they_o say_v 94._o sect._n 94._o very_o strange_a yea_o as_o i_o say_v yet_o more_o strange_a then_o as_o they_o present_v it_o so_o strange_a that_o i_o believe_v it_o be_v never_o yet_o attempt_v neither_o in_o these_o day_n nor_o in_o the_o day_n of_o any_o of_o their_o forefather_n among_o the_o man_n they_o speak_v of_o profess_a christian_n yet_o be_v it_o not_o of_o that_o devour_a or_o fiery_a calculation_n of_o which_o many_o of_o those_o persecution_n be_v which_o be_v daily_o breathe_v forth_o by_o the_o lip_n and_o pen_n of_o many_o of_o their_o interest_n against_o those_o who_o wish_v they_o no_o harm_n but_o second_o it_o be_v not_o a_o little_a strange_a to_o i_o that_o they_o shall_v represent_v that_o as_o a_o persecution_n so_o strange_a as_o never_o yet_o attempt_v among_o profess_a christian_n when_o as_o themselves_o if_o it_o be_v persecution_n have_v attempt_v yea_o and_o practise_v it_o in_o this_o very_a discourse_n for_o do_v they_o not_o in_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o second_o querie_n p._n 6._o impose_v it_o upon_o yea_o and_o solemn_o charge_v which_o be_v more_o than_o to_o wish_v the_o querist_n own_o church_n or_o congregation_n as_o they_o regard_v the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o spirit_n by_o which_o the_o holy_a apostle_n deliver_v those_o forementioned_a anathema_n that_o they_o put_v he_o away_o from_o among_o they_o and_o deliver_v he_o to_o satan_n and_o yet_o do_v they_o not_o withal_o judge_v it_o utter_o unlawful_a for_o the_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n or_o congregation_n 95_o sect._n 95_o to_o exercise_v authority_n over_o their_o pastor_n or_o to_o proceed_v to_o a_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n especial_o against_o the_o chief_a officer_n by_o and_o of_o themselves_o therefore_o if_o to_o wish_v or_o joy_n in_o the_o imposition_n of_o that_o upon_o their_o brethren_n which_o themselves_o who_o be_v for_o the_o imposition_n of_o it_o yet_o count_v unlawful_a to_o be_v submit_v unto_o be_v so_o strange_a a_o persecution_n as_o they_o render_v it_o certain_o themselves_o and_o thousand_o more_o of_o their_o friend_n be_v the_o strange_a persecutor_n and_o that_o with_o the_o strange_a persecution_n that_o ever_o be_v for_o what_o joy_n anh_o stamp_v with_o the_o foot_n have_v there_o be_v among_o the_o child_n of_o high-presbytery_n for_o this_o answer_n to_o the_o query_n as_o empty_a as_o it_o be_v and_o more_o emphatical_o for_o the_o shameless_a piece_n of_o outrage_n commit_v in_o that_o part_n of_o this_o answer_n which_o relate_v to_o the_o second_o querie_n where_o the_o say_v strange_a persecution_n be_v so_o vigorous_o act_v three_o till_o these_o man_n shall_v make_v due_a proof_n that_o that_o 95._o sect._n 95._o strange_a persecution_n they_o speak_v of_o have_v be_v indeed_o attempt_v and_o proceed_v in_o by_o person_n interest_v in_o judgement_n for_o the_o congregationall_a way_n i_o must_v look_v upon_o the_o report_n and_o charge_n and_o shall_v desire_v other_o also_o to_o look_v upon_o they_o with_o the_o same_o eye_n as_o nehemiah_n look_v upon_o the_o content_n of_o sanballats_n letter_n to_o which_o he_o return_v this_o answer_n there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n do_v as_o thou_o sdy_a but_o thou_o fain_o they_o out_o of_o thy_o own_o heart_n 8._o heart_n n●h_o 6._o 8._o 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