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A85233 A reply unto severall treatises pleading for the armes now taken up by subjects in the pretended defence of religion and liberty. By name, unto the reverend and learned divines which pleaded Scripture and reason for defensive arms. The author of the Treatise of monarchy. The author of the Fuller answer his reply. By H. Fern D.D. &c. Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1643 (1643) Wing F799; Thomason E74_9 75,846 101

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