Selected quad for the lemma: conscience_n
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A77919
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The povver of kings discussed: or, An examen of the fundamentall constitution of the free-borne people of England: in answer to severall tenents of M. David Jenkins. By Will: Ball of Barkham, Esq;
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Ball, William.
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1649
(1649)
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Wing B594; Thomason E540_21; ESTC R205769
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even_o as_o bishop_n be_v but_o clerici_fw-la prelati_fw-la and_o alderman_n but_o cives_fw-la elati_fw-la in_o england_n the_o noble_n have_v no_o distinct_a or_o different_a law_n as_o in_o germany_n poland_n and_o some_o other_o country_n these_o here_o inherit_v by_o the_o common_a law_n or_o law_n common_a to_o other_o they_o also_o contract_v bargain_n and_o sale_n by_o the_o same_o law_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o same_o law_n some_o privilege_n they_o have_v which_o make_v rather_o a_o titulary_a or_o circumstantial_a than_o a_o essential_a or_o specifical_a difference_n between_o they_o and_o the_o inferior_a common-people_n but_o it_o may_v be_v some_o will_v say_v why_o shall_v not_o the_o lord_n be_v dignify_v or_o noble_a be_v judge_n primariò_fw-la or_o in_o the_o first_o place_n rather_o than_o the_o commons_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o lord_n be_v not_o entrust_v by_o the_o people_n as_o be_v the_o commons_o and_o therefore_o in_o matter_n of_o general_n concernment_n the_o commons_o ought_v to_o precede_v they_o notwithstanding_o de_fw-la se_fw-la &_o suis_fw-la in_o thing_n that_o mere_o concern_v the_o lord_n as_o also_o concern_v matter_n of_o fact_n etc._n fact_n and_o for_o this_o causo_fw-la as_o also_o to_o advise_v the_o king_n be_v the_o judge_n &_o master_n of_o chancery_n call_v to_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n jenkins_n in_o his_o cordial_n etc._n etc._n or_o controversy_n which_o shall_v happen_v by_o writ_n of_o error_n or_o otherwise_o to_o come_v into_o that_o most_o honourable_a house_n therein_o the_o lord_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la precede_v the_o commons_o but_o mr._n jenkins_n will_v have_v the_o house_n of_o peer_n to_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o law_n rather_o than_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o because_o the_o king_n by_o his_o writ_n say_v that_o he_o will_v consult_v and_o treat_v with_o the_o peer_n and_o prelate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n for_o and_o touch_v the_o great_a concernment_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n for_o the_o king_n never_o sit_v in_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o the_o peer_n do_v consulere_fw-la and_o consequent_o as_o say_v mr._n jenkins_n judge_v of_o the_o concernment_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n the_o commons_o do_v but_o facere_fw-la et_fw-la consentire_fw-la according_a to_o such_o consultation_n or_o judgement_n which_o power_n ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la mr._n jenkins_n say_v the_o king_n give_v they_o by_o his_o writ_n &_o to_o strengthen_v his_o opinion_n he_o quote_v a_o great_a lawyer_n but_o by_o the_o favour_n of_o mr._n jenkins_n and_o such_o as_o adhere_v to_o his_o opinion_n albeit_o the_o king_n say_v in_o his_o writ_n that_o he_o will_v consult_v and_o treat_v with_o the_o prelate_n and_o peer_n touch_v the_o great_a concernment_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n for_o that_o they_o be_v proper_o his_o assistant_n he_o sit_v with_o they_o do_v he_o therefore_o say_v that_o he_o will_v not_o treat_v with_o the_o commons_o nay_o do_v not_o the_o king_n treat_v with_o the_o commons_o by_o messenger_n when_o he_o desire_v aides_n and_o subsidy_n and_o have_v not_o the_o commons_o a_o negative_a voice_n therein_o can_v the_o king_n and_o the_o peer_n make_v a_o act_n of_o law_n without_o the_o commons_o be_v the_o commons_o tie_v or_o oblige_v necessary_o to_o do_v and_o consent_n to_o what_o the_o king_n and_o the_o lord_n shall_v determine_v as_o mr._n jenkins_n seem_v to_o intimate_v sure_o no_o our_o law_n and_o custom_n speak_v they_o absolute_o free_a in_o these_o thing_n and_o whereas_o mr._n jenkins_n say_v that_o the_o king_n by_o his_o writ_n give_v power_n to_o the_o commons_o ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la therein_o he_o be_v great_o mistake_v the_o king_n by_o his_o writ_n only_o appoint_v the_o place_n and_o time_n and_o instance_n the_o word_n ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la to_o show_v the_o cause_n or_o end_v of_o their_o convention_n or_o assemble_v together_o ☞_o ☞_o but_o the_o people_n give_v they_o their_o power_n who_o elect_v or_o nominate_v they_o and_o also_o transact_v their_o power_n unto_o they_o by_o their_o parole_n at_o their_o election_n and_o by_o their_o indenture_n wherein_o they_o insert_v the_o word_n ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la as_o from_o themselves_o to_o the_o party_n who_o in_o the_o say_a indenture_n they_o nominate_v and_o intrust_v and_o indeed_o be_v the_o power_n of_o the_o knight_n citizens_z and_o burgess_n derive_v to_o they_o by_o the_o king_n writ_n such_o indenture_n be_v needless_a and_o frivolous_a the_o sheriff_n may_v only_o make_v their_o return_n se_fw-la fecisse_fw-la electionem_fw-la secundum_fw-la breve_fw-la receptum_fw-la and_o such_o like_a moreover_o it_o be_v against_o reason_n that_o a_o people_n shall_v have_v power_n to_o nominate_v and_o intrust_v some_o about_o their_o affair_n and_o shall_v for_o that_o end_n allow_v they_o wage_n as_o do_v the_o county_n city_n and_o town_n corporate_a to_o the_o knight_n citizens_z and_o burgess_n and_o yet_o that_o such_o trustee_n or_o steward_n shall_v derive_v no_o power_n from_o the_o people_n their_o trustor_n neither_o as_o their_o judge_n delegate_n nor_o allegate_v that_o be_v to_o say_v neither_o as_o judge_n for_o they_o according_a to_o law_n nor_o as_o judge_n for_o they_o according_a to_o reason_n and_o conscience_n but_o m._n jenkins_n conceive_v the_o house_n of_o commons_o to_o be_v no_o fit_a judge_n of_o law_n or_o act_n for_o the_o people_n good_a because_o they_o be_v not_o call_v ad_fw-la consiliandum_fw-la but_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n and_o furthermore_o cordial_n jenkins_n in_o his_o lex_fw-la terrae_fw-la and_o his_o cordial_n that_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o be_v no_o court_n at_o leastwise_o no_o court_n of_o record_n nor_o can_v give_v a_o oath_n or_o examine_v upon_o oath_n and_o that_o house_n which_o can_v do_v the_o less_o can_v do_v the_o great_a by_o m._n jenkins_n and_o other_o his_o adherent_n favour_n be_v it_o not_o of_o great_a moment_n and_o concernment_n to_o be_v call_v ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la then_o ad_fw-la consiliandum_fw-la or_o consilium_fw-la dandum_fw-la he_o or_o they_o who_o be_v call_v to_o council_n be_v call_v only_o to_o advise_v with_o but_o he_o or_o they_o who_o be_v call_v ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la be_v call_v to_o act_n with_o or_o to_o be_v co-enactors_a therefore_o the_o king_n by_o his_o writ_n invite_v the_o people_n to_o do_v and_o consent_n by_o their_o representative_n touch_v such_o difficult_a and_o urgent_a affair_n as_o concern_v himself_o the_o state_n and_o defence_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n and_o church_n of_o england_n of_o which_o he_o intend_v to_o consult_v with_o his_o peer_n and_o great_a reason_n it_o be_v that_o the_o commonwealth_n shall_v at_o the_o least_o have_v free_a power_n in_o herself_o to_o acknowledge_v she_o own_o finalem_fw-la concordantiam_fw-la her_o own_o facere_fw-la &_o consentire_fw-la ☞_o ☞_o albeit_o she_o be_v in_o nature_n of_o feminine_a covert_a baron_n as_o m._n jenkins_n will_v have_v she_o the_o king_n be_v sponsus_fw-la regni_fw-la 41._o jenkins_n in_o his_o lex_fw-la ter._n p_o 41._o qui_fw-la per_fw-la annulum_fw-la be_v espouse_v to_o his_o realm_n at_o his_o coronation_n and_o certain_o the_o king_n conceive_v such_o power_n inherent_a in_o the_o commonwealth_n when_o he_o declare_v in_o his_o writ_n ita_fw-la quod_fw-la pro_fw-la defectu_fw-la potestatis_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la seu_fw-la propter_fw-la improvidam_fw-la electionem_fw-la militum_fw-la civium_fw-la &_o burgensium_n etc._n etc._n moreover_o i_o can_v tell_v m._n jenkins_n that_o commonwealth_n have_v great_a pour_v the_o king_n receive_v the_o ring_n at_o his_o coronation_n as_o do_v femme_fw-fr covert_n baron_fw-fr and_o consequent_o the_o commonwealth_n rather_o espouse_n the_o king_n than_o the_o king_n the_o commonwealth_n so_o that_o the_o commonwealth_n be_v regina_fw-la svi_fw-la ipsius_fw-la ☞_o ☞_o the_o king_n rex_fw-la regeâ—s_fw-la as_o be_v philip_n the_o second_o of_o spain_n in_o england_n albeit_o modo_fw-la difference_n for_o he_o be_v king_n mere_o of_o courtesy_n but_o our_o king_n be_v king_n by_o descent_n and_o whereas_o m._n jenkins_n do_v in_o several_a place_n except_o against_o the_o power_n of_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o affirm_v that_o they_o be_v not_o fit_a to_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n for_o that_o they_o can_v punish_v felony_n or_o treason_n nor_o give_v a_o oath_n nor_o be_v a_o court_n of_o record_n etc._n etc._n it_o make_v no_o matter_n whether_o they_o can_v do_v these_o thing_n or_o whether_o they_o be_v a_o court_n of_o record_n or_o no_o in_o relation_n of_o their_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o they_o be_v to_o judge_v of_o they_o for_o the_o commons_o be_v not_o call_v and_o choose_v chief_o to_o judge_v of_o matter_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la according_a to_o the_o law_n in_o