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A35445 The visions of Pasquin, or, A character of the Roman court, religion and practices together with an account of the arts of the Pope's nephews to get money, the tricks of the priests to fill the churches coffers by masses for the dead, the policy of the Jesuites to cully princes, and cheat Christendom, as also an exact description of purgatory and hell, in a dialogue between Pasquin and Marsorio, translated out of Italian.; Pasquillus ecstaticus. English Curione, Celio Secondo, 1503-1569. 1689 (1689) Wing C7622A; ESTC R13924 82,935 71

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blows M. Dost thou take this to be well to protect those who attempt the destruction of the Pontificial Majesty P. If the Popes seek to destroy the Majesty of the Princes why should not the Princes be permitted to procure the mortification of the Majesty of the Popes We must distinguish between mortification and destruction for the French and the Venetians endeavour only the mortification but not the destruction of the Pontificial Greatness and in truth they much more benefit the Church than the other Princes do who would destroy the whole world to please the Pope But when the concern is for the Church of Christ then the King of France and the Republick of Venice are more zealous than the Spaniards who esteem themselves so Catholical But on the other side when the Popes Interest is upon the Board then the Spaniards are most zealous and the French and the Venetians if they do not stand out are at least content with a natural heat and upon this account because the Zeal of the Spaniards looks more to the Interest of the Pope than the Interest of the Church and the Zeal of the others regards much more the benefit of the Church than that of the Popes M. These Reasons of thine penetrate my heart and make me think the Spaniards great Catholicks for the Popes and great Hereticks to the Church and the French and Venetians great Catholicks for the Church and a little Heretical towards the Popes P. Very right But now to return to our purpose after I had observed all things without my curiosity went on to see every thing within but I durst not do it though a Gate presented it self just before my eyes where was an ascent of three or four steps but I waited to have the venerable person who conducted me to shew me the way which he did by going in first without much ceremony As soon as we entred that Great Hall we saw a multitude of Popes and every one set upon a seat fixed to the wall I who knew the great Reverence that is used in the Vatican of Rome walked very softly my knees almost trembling nay I will tell you more I sneaked behind a pillar to shew my greater Reverence to the place which being observed by my good friend who went up and down so boldly that he began to laugh and drawing near to me said thus Thou savours Pasquin too much of a Citizen of Rome that is to say art but ill instructed in the nature of the Vatican and indeed the Romans are like Fish which live in the salt water yet are themselves insipid so these Romans just live because the Vatican suffers them to live without understanding the nature of their Vatican but I am not able to endure that such a person as thou art so excellently well instructed in so many witty Subtilties should still lie immerged in so gross an Ignorance Know then that to the modest persons that haunt the Vatican it happens just as it does in France to such as will needs stand upon their formality and civility at Table for the French accustomed to their liberty of behaviour eat all up and the others rise hungry and repent their starcht Modesty M. So that in France it seems they are no sooner set down at Table but their hands must be put into the dish as quick as the rest of the company P. Most certainly unless they desire to keep Lent whilst the French keep Easter But let me go on I prethee with the discourse my friend ran on in Know Pasquino said he that this bashfulness in the Vatican runs the same risque that it does at the Tables in France where those that reach not out their hands go without their Dinners so that it is necessary in the Vatican to make use of the French boldness that is go confidently into all places pry into the most reserved Writings in Cabinets ask impudently for any thing they have a mind to speak freely what they intend to do look out for their Dinners without being invited in fine quarrel with the Masters in their own houses if they give them not more than they offer to ask Thus the French comport themselves where-ever they are admitted and thus must all people do in the Vatican or else they must come out as empty as they went in Fruits never fall from their Trees till they begin to lose their savour and putrifie so that those who make a Trade of them must gather them before they decay Modesty in the Vatican ruines those that use it They that would have graces must be importunate for them and those that would receive favours must earnestly beg them and they that would not be rejected must be skilful to put themselves forward Those that rule in the Vatican are usually deaf and therefore it is necessary to speak aloud or they are blind and those that stand at a distance are not taken notice of you must if they be deaf pull them by the Coat tell who you are and what you desire and like Jacob with the Angel not suffer them to depart till you have received the blessing if they be deaf take them about the neck set your mouth to their ears and cry out as the Jews do when they call for their Messias and repeat your note till you have evident signs that all you say is well understood Woe be to those that stand at the Vatican Gates expecting that the Alms of some Benefit should be sent to them for this is a place which can never be opened whilst the Popes keep the Keys themselves unless it be those who can force it with Paul's Sword since it is the nature of the Popes to despise those that over-value them and to value those that despise them The devout the meek and the humble are openly neglected the insolent the rash and the proud immediately find Hats for their heads because Cardinalships Bishopricks Abbys and Benefices are never given by the Popes but always stoln by the pretenders therefore my dear Pasquino if thou wilt observe Modesty in that place thou art certain to have nothing fall to thy share M. This discourse must much encourage thee and inflame thy desires to go farther on P. It did so embolden me that I got from behind the pillar where I retired out of respect to the place so that I walked in the midst of those Great Popes strutting about with my hands on my Girdle like Bartholomew of Bergamus M. Methinks they should be enraged to see you in that posture but perhaps none of them knew thee P. I think not or at least they would not know me and I was not scandalized at that for I know it 's the nature of the Popes neither to know nor be familiar with any but those they have a mind to know Besides the Hall was great and I was in the middle of it therefore 't is very possible that they might either not discover or not observe me