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A85271	Colonell Fiennes his reply to a pamphlet entitvled, An answer to Colonell Nathaniel Fiennes relation concerning his surrender of the city and castle of Bristol by Clem. Walker which said answer is here reprinted verbatim. Ordered to be printed.	Fiennes, Nathaniel, 1607 or 8-1669.; Walker, Clement, 1595-1651.	1643 (1643)	Wing F877; Thomason E70_1; ESTC R5094	14,936	17

COLONELL FIENNES His REPLY to a Pamphlet ENTITVLED AN ANSWER TO Colonell Nathaniel Fiennes RELATION concerning his Surrender of the City and Castle of Bristol by Clem. Walker Which said Answer is here Reprinted verbatim Ordered to be Printed London Printed for Thomas Vnderhill 1643. The Epistle to the Reader HAving taken notice of a printed Pamphlet so the Authour himselfe calleth it set forth in answer to a Relation which I made in the House of Commons concerning my surrender of the Castle and City of Bristol which hath long walked in the darke and now at length is peeped out when the Authour might have an excuse to say that his witnesses that should justifie it are gone away with Sir William Waller I earnestly desired the House that this businesse of Bristol might be heard at a Councell of Warre whereupon it was ordered accordingly I having formerly desired the same of my L. Generall who granted my request but it could not be done till such time as his Army returned to a setled Quarter but now I hope upon the return of his Excellency the Order of the House of Commons and a Petition of my selfe and most of my chiefe Officers to that purpose this matter shall be shortly heard at a Councell of Warr and therfore shall content my self with a few Marginall Notes in answer to that lying Pamphlet referring the full tryall of the truth to a Councell of Warre till when I doubt not but every wise man will suspend his judgement and then he shall clearly see who hath bin the lyar and who hath bin the Coward Nath Fiennes Die Sabbati 25o. September 1643. IT is this day Ordered by the Commons assembled in Parliament That it be left to my L. Generall at the Request and desire of Collonell Fiennes to heare and examine the busines concerning the Surrender of Bristoll H. Elsyng Cler. Parl. D. Com. Mr Walkers Epistle to the Reader Reader THough this Answer cost but few houres to compose it yet was it a worke of some dayes to collect the materialls thereof out of the severall Reports of many principall Gentlemen and Commanders present in Bristol when it was besieged And when this Pamphlet was ready for the Presse I found the Presse obstructed whereby I was enforced to keepe it in a moneth before I could be delivered of this Birth Some malicious Iuno sitting crosse legged at the labour This is a lye if meant of Col. Fiennes or any of his friends to his knovvledge This is the reason it commeth out so late after the Relation that it may seeme to rub over an old sore whose smart is almost past But Truth is a sluggard that uses to lie long in bed after her base sister Falsehood is up and stirring Yet when Truth riseth with her sober constant pace she will soone overtake Falshood and tread on her heeles Reader it is in thy discretion that Truth lose not her grace for want of novelty Although she come forth with this further disadvantage that almost all those Gentlemen and Commanders that should wait upon her justification are going out of Towne with Sir William Waller yet let Truth be welcome without attendants without ornaments it being one of her most naturall ornaments to be starke naked Thine Cle. Walker An Answer to Col. Nathaniel Fiennes Relation concerning his Surrender of the City and Castle of Bristol With Col. Fiennes his Reply to the said Pamphlet SInce the heart of man is deceitfull above all things and none can know the issues thereof wee will not search over-curiously into the desires of the late Governour of that unhappy City of BRISTOL Colonell NATHANIEL FIENNES Whether he affected the Government or no Yet seeing it is a point controverted by himselfe in his Relation pag. 3. we will be bold to say FIrst His undermining Col. Thomas Essex whom hee struck into the box and laid himself in his roome In this manner Colonell Fiennes brought a letter to Bristol from my Lord Generall authorizing him to seize on and send up prisoner Colonell Essex then Governour of that City and this was so under-hand carried that the Deputy-Lieutenants and Committee of Parliament then resident in Bristol to assist Colonell Essex in the Government were never consulted with to know what cause of suspition they found in him This was an affront put upon the Deputy-Lieutenants in point of integrity or discretion and industry A lie and scandall cast upon my Lo. Generall and his Order Secondly His putting Creatures of his own neither Souldiers nor men knowne in those parts into Bristol Castle to make the government more intirely his own contrary to the desires both of the Towne and Countrey which were to have a Gentleman of honour and integrity such as both the Towne and Country could confide in placed there Two Lye Thirdly His many artifices to lessen the Reputation and abridge the power of the Committees and Gentlemen of the Country whereof more afterward A Lye Fourthly His underhand indeavours to draw a Territory of twenty miles compasse as annexed to that City to be within his sole command and to make it independent upon the rest of the adjacent counties thereby to exclude Sir W. Waller and all others A Lye These considerations we say make us think he was as jealous of his Government there as any man is of his wife and that he would brooke no rivall therein nor can his letters sent to his Father oversway our beliefe Father and sonne being Testes Domestici in the neerest degree But to take off this conceit in his fourth page he tells us he made certaine Propositions to the Gentlemen of the adjacent Counties for the setling and maintaining a Garrison there to which most of the Gentlemen consented It is answered he made a certaine Proposition in generall to that purpose to the Gentlemen of Somerset and Gloucester and the Letter dated the 20 of March 1642. published in the Governours Relation page 13. was sent to the Lord Say and the like to his Excellency the Lord Generall to see how the said generall Proposition would take But when the said Gentlemen expected to be againe advised withall for reducing the said generall into particular Propositions he having got the start of them secretly sent up particulars of his owne framing the same it may be which he hath published in his Relation page 17. intituled A draught of the Ordinance whereby he indeavoured to weaken the power of the Deputy-Lieutenants and Committees and to make Bristol and the Countries adjacent for 20 miles compasse his Territory himselfe in all matters of moment being of the Quorum A Lye As shall be proved under his own hand and the hands of divers Gentlemen both of Somerset and Glocestershire For example in his said draught of the Ordinance he projected that First the Garrison which should have consisted of 3 Foot Regiments besides Horse whereof one to be raised in the County of Somerset under the command of Colonell Alexander

Popham another in the County of Gloucester should be raised by the Governour onely Secondly the money raised in the Easterne-Division of Somerset in Barkely-Division in Gloucester and in the Cities of Bristoll and Bath upon the weekely Assessment Twentieth part and Sequestration nay and upon Excises and new Imposts should be assigned only for the use of that Garrison A Lye If there was a surplissage it was to goe to other uses with further provision in the Ordinance that if all this be not enough it should be made up out of the said Counties respectively and the Committees appointed to pay the charges of the said Garrison and fortifications being valued and made known to them by the said Governour of Bristoll whose Warrant and Receipt should bee a sufficient discharge Thirdly The Treasurers of the said Divisions not to issue out any moneyes without the concurring warrant of Col Fiennes Governour A lye Only such monies at were to be employed upon the Garrison and Fortifications of Bristol Fourthly The Trained-Bands and Voluntiers of the said Divisions not to be drawne forth upon service either into the City of Bristol or Country but by the like warrant See now what power was left to the said Committees or Deputy Lieutenants even in their own Counties and over their own men and moneyes upon which Colonell Fiennes had not incroached in this his draught of an Ordinance Again page 4. he complaines that Sir William Waller drew forth Colonell Essex Regiment and all the Troopes of Horse we conceive Sir William Waller drew forth only Col Essex his Troope of Red Coates being not above 30 or 40 and his foot Regiment being incompleate the one halfe whereof never marched out of Towne and were entertained by the Governour still page 5. 3 Lyes 1 Captain Longes and Captain Coxes Troops were drawn out and Major Laugrishes also commanded out when Sir Ralph Hoptons Army drew towards Somersetshire Colonell Alexander Popham moved by letters from my Lord Generall would have gone forth with his whole Regiment to joyne with Wilts and Dorset and the Westerne forces of Somersetshire but was Countermanded by Colonell Fiennes who then first produced a letter from my Lord Generall whereby Colonell Popham and his Regiment were reduced under his command which letter untill then he had concealed and would not suffer Col Popham to march with above six Companies Sir William Waller told Col Fiennes before Col Popham that he desired only 6 Companies It is true that Col Popham was rented through the default of Major Langrish and his horse 2 Lyes Langrish was cleered by a Counsell of War at Bathe but the foot Armes were not above halfe lost In answer to his 1200 men lent Sir William Waller It is confessed we all importuned him to enable Sir William Waller by an addition of 1200 foot to take the field for preservation of the Country which is no more then Col Fiennes in his propositions to my Lord Generall and Parliament undertook namely * to defend the Country for 20 miles adjoyning * Not against an Armie though he had received the benefit of those propositions which he never did and that was one maine cause of the losse of the Towne And Col Fiennes himself when he gave consent to this motion did declare that if the fortune of the Field went against Sir William Waller yet with his forces remaining in the Towne and the men which would be recollected and rallied out of his defeated Companies hee made no doubt but to make good the said City And Col Fiennes after the defeate of Sir William Waller did declare that hee hoped to make good the Towne with 2500 men and that he hoped to make up that number by arming those men that fled from the defeate into the Towne and by taking Armes from the Townesmen and putting them into other hands page 6. 2 Lyes He never declared any such thing Sir Arthur Hazelrigg Colonell Burghill and divers gentlemen after Sir William Wallers defeate thought fit to withdraw themselves these Gentlemen did not leave the Towne upon apprehension it was not Tenable It shall be proved that some did it upon that ground but out of a desire to raise men else where to supply it A lye They went to fetch supplies round about by the Lands end and out of a consideration it was not fit for them in time of warre to stay under his command who in time of peace had plundered some of them for not paying such taxes as he put upon the City of Bristoll not withstanding they paid in the Country and resided in Towne only to doe publike service upon their own purses and for lodging in the Castle it is confidently affirmed that no lodgings there were ever offered to any of the Gentlemen nor any former respects shewed to them could incourage them to hope for any and so many meane fellowes of the Town were suffered to shelter themselves and their goods there that there was no roome left for the Gentlemen insomuch that when Colonell Stephens with his wife and family retreated into the Castle they could not endure their bad entertainement and the Princes Trumpeter then a prisoner had better lodging then he and his whole family whereupon he returned into the Town againe Page 6. Col Steevens never acquainted Col Fiennes and his brother affirmeth that he bid him take his choice of any roome in the Castle He tells us he had but 700 men left in the Towne and never a penny of money to pay them Col Fiennes had left in the Towne halfe his owne foot Regiment halfe Col Pophams Regiment the new begun though not yet compleat Regiment of his brother Iohn Fiennes being about 300 or 400 men besides 300 or 400 foot remaining of Sir William Wallers and 1000 or 1200 foot he newly by his own confession raised and Armed in the Town so that he had neere upon 2500 foot besides his Regiment of horse and his Company of dragoons which is the number he undertook to keep the Town with as aforesaid 3 Lyes There were only 3 Companies of Col Fiennes his Regiment not a man of Col Pophams and the 300 or 400 remaining of Sir William Wallers were part of the 1000. If M. Walker that was a Sommersersetshire Gentleman and constantly resided in the Town before had not most valiantly runne out of the Town when the enemy came before it and many more men he might have had if hee had not as aforesaid so much lessened the Reputation of the Committees in the Country that they who by their Warrant had called in neere upon a thousand men in February last when Prince Rupert was before the Towne could not now call in a hundred so much was the Countrey distasted with taking free Quarter Horses disorderly plundering even from the best affected and all these abuses A base lye all along with many more were imputed by the Countrey people unto the Committee and Deputy-Lieutenants resident in Bristoll because being

with unserviceable people Sir you were not the first inventour of that expedient for the Horse and if you could have faggotted all the foot one upon another in the Castle what should have become of your friends in the Town between whom and you there was a joint protestation and oath of mutuall defence But it should seeme by his actions subsequent to the conclusion of the Treaty he tooke little care to preserve the said body of men for service of the Parliament for presently upon the Articles agreed on First Hee suffered his men to fall off from their Colours Guards and Watches A false lye Col Fiennes both by his commands by all wayes and meanes endeavoured to keepe the Souldiers to their coulours and Guards whereby the Common souldiers of the Enemy entering the Towne before the time appointed came for the defendants to march out and mingling with our Souldiers gave the Enemy advantage in the mixture to plunder houses strip and rifle our Souldiers dismount our horse to allure intice and inforce from the Parl service many of them and so to breake and dissolve almost all that body foot and horse who thereupon scattered and dispersed themselves about the Country into harvest-work for their present reliefe Nor could the Commanders on the Enemies part remedy this evill which the Governours own folly had drawn upon him and this is a better justification of the two Armies then that wherewith the Governour by way of compliance tickleth them in his 11 page All these particulars shall be cleered at a Coūcell of War and for the point of powder mentioned in the precedent page that had not Col Fiennes got some from beyond-seas and otherwise by his indeavours the West had been lost long since and the 10 barrells he helped Glocester with saved it Nor did the Governour beate his Drum or call his foot Souldiers again to the Colours when he went out of Town whereby they might march away with him in one intire body and bee kept together for the service of their Countrey Secondly Presently upon the Articles agreed upon the Governour set all the prisoners in the Town and Castle at liberty 2 Grosse lyes Those that advised this thought neither Towne or Castle very safe and tenable these forthwith grew insolent and fell to plunder both Town and Castle before the enemy entered to take orderly possession of them these prisoners were many in number and divers of them men of good quality taken by Sir William Waller the Governour often complaining he was made Sir William Wallers Goale-keeper A base groūdlesse slander upon a Nobleman He remembers no such answer but conceives it a justifiable answer if he had said it and repining at the charge of keeping them he was often advised to remove them to a place of more safety where they might be kept as pledges for our friends in captivity London and the Lord Sayes Isle of Lundy were propounded But for the first the voyage was too chargeable and for the last it is since conceived the Governour was unwilling to send any company to that place whereby the misteries of that Island might be discovered and observation made what was carried in and out there A malicious lye He knowes that Col Fiennes did what he could to suppresse such disorders which were occasioned by the connivāce of other Commanders and when Sir William Waller moved Col Fiennes to send away the said prisoners by Sea before the enemy came before the Town he answered he would not for that he would keep them to make his own conditions the better For the Prisoners Col Fiennes wished Captaine Birck to see if there could be meanes found to send them away by sea but he could not and he desired also Sir Arthur Hazelrigg to take some of them with him but he would have none of them his own Councells were alwayes the best I meane for his own ends to make good which the Councell of War was well furnished with suffragan Captains purposely made to vote for him Much more might be said upon this Subject especially for abuses done in Churches c. whereby the love of the Town and Country was much alienated But enough hath been said of a bad matter let us resort to God for mercy and to man for justice to be done in a fitting way that is openly and by man uninteressed lest for want of due rewards and due punishments the two Poles upon which the frame of Government turnes the reforming part of the Common-wealth become 〈◊〉 corrupt as the part to be reformed which God of his mercy forbid If lyers and slanderers be not punished and Pillored no men of honour will be able to live and doe service as Col Fiennes doth not doubt to make it appeare at a Councell of Warre that he made as good a defence of that place as any hath been made of any place since this war though not so long nor so successefull through other mens faults and the weake condition of the place THere hath lately come to my view a Letter written by Col Nath Fiennes to my L. Generall with no date to it wherein among … other matters already confuted in the answer to his relation he te … you he armed 3000 foot and 300 horse and paid constantly 2000 foot and a Regiment of horse for 4 of 5 moneths together This we deny Col. Pophams Regiment of foot being armed and paid by the Country and where he will find 2000 foot those excepted we know not unlesse they lay hid in Prince Ruperts imaginary close decked boates he further saith he was alwayes ready to furnish Sir William Waller with armes money c. It is denied for both especially for money the money Sir Wi lliam Waller had from Bristoll being taken up upon the private security of divers Genelemen Deputy-Lieutenants and Committees of Parliament and others Col Fiennes alwayes repining thereat and complaining they would draw dry the spring and starve the Garrison in the Town by those courses this letter seemes to be attested under the hands of divers men some whereof deny they ever subscribed it Sure they will not deny their hands when they see them and Col. Fiennes will bring better proof of all that you deny even of that which he said concerning close decked boates then you can prove Major Langrishes cowardize at Munctō Forly when he was 10 miles off The true Copies of a Certificate under Col. Fiennes own hand dated Iuly 17 1643. As also of an Order of a Counsell of War held in Bristol the same day expressing the true causes why Sir W. Waller left the City of Bristol THE CERTIFICATE I doe conceive that Sir W. Waller having only horse they would be of little us● unto us for the defence of this City and may be rather a burthen unto us in the consumption of our provisions and therefore I doe approve of Sir Williams resolution to march out of the Town with them and to dispose of them as he shall think most advantagious to the Cause Bristol July 17 1643. Nath Fiennes THE ORDER It was Ordered at a Councel of War held in Bristol July 17 1643. That according to the importunity of the Governour and his Officers Sir Wil Wallers departure from Bristol will be of farre greater consequence for the advancing of this present service then his remaining there And after debate it was concluded most convenient That Sir Will Waller speedily march towards His Excellencie the Earle of Essex or to London Edvvard Hungersord Alexander Popham James Keir Francis Dovvet Arthur Haselrig William Carr. Edward Cook Jonas Van-drusch I know not what he meanes by printing that certificate and that Order of S Wil Wallers Councel of War whereof I deny the parenthesis to be true to my best remembrance and for the Certificate I am still of the same judgement under the favour of this great Souldier especially if Sir Wil Wallers words were true concerning his horse that they were such rascalls as he could never rule them Finis