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A76085 The second part of that book call'd Independency not Gods ordinance: or the post-script, discovering the uncharitable dealing of the Independents towards their Christian brethren, with the jugglings of many of their pastors and ministers, to the misleading of the poor people to the detriment of their own souls, and the hurt both of church and state, with the danger of novelties in religion; proving that Independency, is one of the most dangerous sects, that ever appeared in the world, since mortality inhabited the earth. In the which also there is a satisfactory answer given to the principall cavils of him that writ that railing pamphlet, stil'd The falshood of Mr Will. Prynnes Triumphing in the antiquity of popish princes and parliaments. With Doctor Bastvvicks just defence against some calumnies in way of preface. / By John Bastvvick, Dr in Physick.; Independency not Gods ordinance. Part 2 Bastwick, John, 1593-1654. 1645 (1645) Wing B1069; Thomason E287_9; ESTC R200091 93,218 111

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believe that grollish opinion of Independency For when the Lord divided the whole Earth to the severall families of the same he alwaies reserved a portion for his own children for he is the preserver of all especially of the Believers as it is related Deut. 32. and Acts 17. and 1 Tim. 4. Now as the Families of the Earth multiplied and increased they extended their habitations further and further from countrey to countrey till they had replenished all places according to Gods command and blessing Increase and multiply and as they seated themselves in any new Plantation for their safety and more secure habitation and to free themselves from incursions of any enemies they built themselves Cities and great walled Townes having learned that lesson of Cain the fruits of sin that made man both naked and afraid of every thing and that they might be furnished with all provisions and necessaries they allotted unto every City such a circuit and compasse of ground as out of the which they might have all their necessaries supplied and be accommodated with all things needfull for food and raiment and their bodily preservation which required a large extent of ground and of which they might take at pleasure there being enough and for this very end they stocked the grounds about their severall Cities with cattell and sent out as their families increased their Colonies and Semenaries as Bees use yearly to do their Swarmes and those they seated in the most convenient and fertilest places and fittest for habitation through the countries who manured and tilled the ground and planted Vineyards and built Villages and Towns all the which still were accounted Citizens as Merchants here in London that are Citizens that have houses and habitations in the countrey lose not their former denomination by their countrey habitation no more did the people in those dayes but were alwayes with all the inhabitants within the limits of that countrey reputed Citizens and call'd by the name of such a City because they were governed by the same lawes the City was and were derived from it and were under the command of the chiefe of those families who all lived as Kings at first And therefore into whose hands soever those Cities fell either by succession donation compact mariage or victory those that were the owners or conquerours of them still for the most part continued and preserved the divisions formerly made and kept all those Villages and Townes as far as the jurisdiction of those Cities extended under their command and all by the name of such Cities as at first and all the dwellers and inhabitants within that circumference or circuit were still accounted as part of the City as all Histories do relate both sacred and humane So that they that were Masters of those severall Cities were also Lords of all those Villages which were under the jurisdiction diction of those Cities and as far as the secular power of those severall Cities did extend so far did their Ecclesiasticall And as those severall cities we read of in the holy Scripture under the Kings of Juda and Israel had all their severall civill Presbyters and Elders or a Councell and Senate of Presbyters in them to govern them under their severall Kings so they had their Ecclesiasticall or Synagogicall Presbyters or a Colledge of Elders also whose authority extended over all their severall congregations Synagogues or assemblies as well within the Cities as without through all the Villages and Townes that were within the compasse and circumference of their severall jurisdictions as all imperiall Cities through the christian world were in the Primitive times governed and are at this day in many places And therefore we cannot conceive any other of the severall Presbyters placed in every City by Apostolicall institution as of those of Jerusalem Ephesus Corinth Galatia c. but as of so many corporations for we reade that both in Jerusalem and Ephesus they had both many Presbyters and many congregations under every severall Presbytery and as men in those severall Cities Parishes Townes and Villages were daily converted to the faith so those severall Colledges of Presbyters ordained them more Presbyters by common consent and took them continually under their government which congregations though many as far as their jurisdiction extended were all joyned together under one Presbyterie and made still in every severall Precinct but one church as that of Jerusalem and Ephesus and were all governed and ordered by the joynt consent and common-counsell of their severall Colledges of Presbyters the mistaking of the which kinde of government and the mis-understanding of the Scriptures was the cause of all the confusions in the Christian world and of those sad differences here in England at this day and the only occasion of that vaine opinion of Independency for so I may call it for divers reasons For the tenent of the Independents is this That in the Church of Ierusalem and in that of Ephesus and in all the other Churches spoken of in the New Testament there were no more Believers in each of them then could all meet in one place and in one congregation to partake in all acts of worship and that they were absolute within themselves and from the which there was no appeals which I affirme is a vaine and fond opinion contrary to both Scripture and reason and all antiquity and that it is both against Scripture and reason I have sufficiently as I conceive proved it in the foregoing discourse But for a further confirmation of it I shall here adde some other arguments that may if it be possible undeceive those that have by the falacies and craft of their Teachers been misled and seduced I must confesse it has been a wonder often to me to see that such multitudes of godly people and those that I had thought had been so well grounded in Religion should be so carried about with every winde of new doctrine under pretence of New-lights when they have so often been forewarn'd to take heed of deceivers by Christ and his Apostles and that in such a violent manner and with such exaspirated spirits against their Brethren that cannot assent unto those novelties For if they had ever read the holy Scriptures with understanding or been but a little acquainted with the Ecclesiasticall Histories they could never have been so suddenly deluded For if we but reade the Acts of the Apostles with attention or the Epistles of Paul and all the writings of the New Testament we shall finde in them all that by the powerfull preaching of the Gospel and by the wonderfull working of miracles of the Apostles whole cities and countries were converted unto the faith and that the Gospel was generally imbraced and whole Nations converted and brought to the obedience of the faith by it in a very short time and Saint Paul speaking of the Romans chap. 1 ver 8. saith that their faith was spoken of through the whole world and in chap. 10.
in Jerusalem after the preaching of the Gospell and in the Apostles times as were before of the Jews for they after they were Christians continued still to assemble themselves if not dayly every Sabbath day at least in their Synagogues as they were wont to do where the Apostles were all so taken up in preaching as they had no leisure for reciprocall salutations and therefore of necessity there were more congregations in the Church of Jerusalem and a greater multitude of Christians them could all meet in any one or a few places even as it was here in England in King Edwards and Queen Elizabeths dayes as I specified before there was no fewer congregations and assemblies of Protestants in London then was before of Papists for as many Parish Churches as there were in the city of London so many severall congregation of Protestants there were then through the city and they that profest Popery before did now imbrace the Protestant Religion and made so many congregations and severall Churches of Protestants as there were congregations of Papists before and as it would be accounted great absurdity yea a ridiculous thing in any man to affirm that there was but as many Protestants in London in King Edward his time or in Queen Elizabeths dayes as could all meet in one place or in one congregation so to any understanding and intelligible man it is as absurd to conclude that there were no more christians and beleevers in Jerusalem then could all meet in one place and congregation when the Scripture it self affirmeth that all Jerusalem was turned Christians and had their meetings and assemblies in the Temple and in every house and that there was many assemblies there and it stands with all reason that if there had been but one Congregation of beleevers in Jerusalem when Paul went to visit Peter that then he of necessity should have seen some at least of the other Apostles besides Peter and Iames for without doubt Paul was dayly among the Christians a preaching to them in their Synagogues or meeting places and the other Apostles also whose duty it was to be continually taken up in praying and preaching amongst them would not so long a time have layen idle and private but in that neither Paul saw them not the Apostles Paul it is a sufficient Argument to prove there were many congregations and assemblies of beleevers in Ierusalem which so imployed them all in their severall Ministeries as they had no time for mutuall visits and that was the onely cause that hindred them from saluting one another so that I conceive by that which I have now said all understanding men will gather that there were more congregations of beleevers in the Church of Jerusalem then one and that all these severall assemblies made but one Church and were all governed by the joynt consent and common councell of one Presbytery whatsoever the Independent Ministers perswade the poor deluded people to the contrary for the upholding of their imaginary Presbyterian Government which is against all Scripture Antiquity Reason and Ordinary sense And therefore I may boldly assert in their dealing with their severall Congregations when they set before them their Churches of Ierusalem Ephesus c. as consisting of but one Congregation and Assembly a peece they juggle with them for no other end but to make themselves Lords and masters of them and to get the Soveraignty in time over the people into their own hands while they would seem to be their servants And therefore it highly concerns all men that desire the peace and welfare of Church and state duly to weigh and seriously to consider the danger of Schisms and rents in either which ought to move them to study by all means how rather they make up the breaches already made and how now to unite themselves together in love and unity against the common enemies of them both then to follow such blind leaders and guides as by their factions and fractions will bring us all into the pit of destruction and expose us and our posterities to as great misery and slavery both for souls and bodies as ever Nation groaned under And as it is the duty of every private Christian in his particular family to teach and instruct his children and servants in the nurture and fear of the Lord and with all singular care to purge his house of all such as may misleade them and seduce and corrupt them that are in their tender years and not well grounded in the principalls of Religion to give them speciall charge to haunt no such places and company as by which they may be viciated in their manners or poysoned with fals and erronious doctrines and opinions as the Word of God commands both in the Old and New Testament So it is the duty of all Magistrates and Ministers in their severall places who are the Pastors of the people the one for their bodily preservation and the common peace and the other for their spirituall good to joyn together for the setting up of Gods true Worship Government and Service in all Cities Towns and Parishes through the Kingdome the one by their power and authority and the other by lifting up their voyce like a Trumpet as all the holy Prophets and Apostles did in all their generations against all false teachers and to warn the people under their severall charges to take heed of them and shun them as they either desire Gods glory their own eternall Salvation or the publike present good and the prosperity and tranquility of their off-spring in succeeding ages and to be as sedulous and diligent in suppressing errours and schisms as all the godly Magistrates and faithfull Ministers have been in their severall times whose praises for this their good work is frequently recorded in holy writ and in all the Ecclesiasticall Records to their eternall honour and renoune and for our instruction And truely if the examples of the holy Prophets blessed Apostles and godly Magistrates and of all the deer servants of God whose names and fames are glorious to all posterity in the holy Word of God will not move us then at least let us learn of the very enemies of the Papists Sectaries and Hereticks in all precedent and fore-going Generations for they as all histories and dayly experience teacheth us not onely labour to remove all such out of their families and Churches as be of a contrary opinion to them but study also to exterminate them out of their very territories if they have strength or policy so to do And if none of their examples may yet perswade us to our duty then let the example of all those that now differ from us in opinion but in the matter of government teach us what to do in this point for they will not willingly entertain any into their families that is not of their own minde and opinion nor suffer their children to be instructed in any other way then their own and shun in as
in their childhood and infancy and doe those daring actions against the great Councell of the Kingdome they dayly exercise abusing all authority that is not of their own moddell in word and deed in writing and preaching to the very scandall of Religion all which they could not be suffered to do if there were once a learned Presby try set up as they well know and such a Church government as was in Ierusalem and in all those Primative Churches the which were so many severall corporations every one of them consisting of severall Congregations and all governed by the joynt consent and common councell of their severall Colledges of Presbyters to the which every particular member and every severall Congregation and Assembly in their particular Precincts and Jurisdictions had their appeals upon all occasions and that by divine institution and stood to the arbitration of every severall Presby try or else appealed upon non satisfaction or conceived wrong to their severall and more generall Classes higher Presbyters or Synods as we see in Mat. 18. and Acts 6. 15. where we have both precept and presidents of so ordering and ruling the Church to the end of the world for Christ who is the Law-giver of his Church hath so appointed it and whatsoever the Apostles did in the ordinary way of governing the Church they did it for example to future ages as they in their writing declare and invite all Ministers and people to their imitation And if Christians under the New Testament had not severall places to appeal to and higher Courts of judicature then their particular Congregations and Churches they should be inferiour to the Synagogues of the Jews and to that Nation in many respects for it is well known to those that have ever read the holy Scripture that they had severall Courts to appeal to upon conceived wrong and in all difficult businesses and this was no ceremoniall way of Government but a morall and permanent way of ordering things to the end of the world and our blessed Saviour constituted the same manner of Government Ecclesiasticall the Leviticall Priest-hood and that Order being abolished with all their Ceremonious services that was in all the Cities of Judaea and Isarel and through all their Synagogues who were all Aristocratically and Presbyterianly governed who were moderated and Ordered by severall Colledges of Judges in their severall Precincts cal'd Rulers of which there were some inferiour and some chiefe Rulers or Judges as it is in all Courts of judicature through the world and this manner of government is that that was established by Christ and his blessed Apostles and was continued in the Primitive Churches till Antichrist that Man of Sinne began to put up his hornes and who advancing himselfe above all that is called God not only pusht down that Presbyterian government and manner of ruling and trampled it under his poluted feet but most tyrannically inslaved all Kingdomes and Nations and brought them under his unsupportable yoke And now through the goodnesse of God his power is abrogated and abolished the Independent Ministers with Diotrephes would usurpe the same over every congregation which ought to be managed by the joynt consent and common-counsell of every Presbytery to which every Member in every Church and every particular congregation under their severall Presbyteries ought to make their addresses and to which they ought to have their recourse upon all occasions And if the Gentlemen the Independent Ministers had that knowledge in Divinity History or very politicks that they would perswade the world they were so great Masters in they would never have spake preached and writ that they have done against common reason all antiquity and the expresse Word of God it self in defence of their fond opinion For what man of ordinary judgement ever read what the word or a name of a City meant and what is understood by it was so stupid as to conceive where Paul appointed Titus cap. 1. That he should ordaine Presbyters in every City that the Apostle there meant by City one congregation or particular assembly in every City when if we take notice of that word we shall finde in all Histories both Divine and Humane that by City is meant not only the compasse of ground and houses and streets inclosed within the wals of any place and the inhabitants dwelling in it but by City the whole country is to be understood and comprehended whose inhabitants are governed by the same law that those within the City are And this manner of speaking is so frequent in all Histories both sacred and prophane as nothing is more common as all learned men know and therefore I cite not authorities to prove it with which I might fill a Volume So that when the Apostle Paul commanded Titus to ordaine Presbyters and Bishops in every City he then established a Presbytery or Colledge of Ministers that might with wisdome and in knowledge governe all those severall congregations and particular assemblies of Believers that then were in these severall Cities and as many as in future time should be converted to the faith by the preaching of the Gospell within these Cities and Villages about the City as far as the jurisdiction and limits of the secular government did stretch and extend it self for the Secular government and the Ecclesiasticall went alwayes together as it doth at this day through the world in all well ordered Principalities and Common-weals and therefore as far as the Teritories of every City in those dayes extended it selfe so far did the Presbyters authority spread and extend it self and therefore when the Apostle enjoyned Titus to ordaine Presbyters in every City he established there a Councell Senate Court or Colledge of Presbyters and an Ecclesiasticall Magistracy to the which he gave power to exercise their authority over all the particular congregations and severall assemblies that were then already converted and that should be converted afterward both within the wals of the City and within the circumference and bounds of the whole jurisdiction to the end of the world and ordered that that Presbytery and Colledge by joynt consent and common counsell should governe all those severall congregations And this is Gods Ordinance And as all the Cities in Judea and Israel under their severall Kings were notwithstanding governed by a secular Presbytery as all Corporations are here in England so they were also by an Ecclesiasticlal and had their Rulers of their Synagogues and appeals from inferiour Courts to superiour upon all just occasions and that by Gods appointment and by Christs own ratification as the Scripture doth frequently specifie in many places And indeed if any man of mature judgement and with deliberation would but consider what all Histories relate concerning the originall of Cities and the cause of their building and how farre their Territories and their Lines if I may so say of communication extended with their inhabitants which were alwayes counted Citizens they could never be induced to