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A44185
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The case stated of the jurisdiction of the House of Lords in the point of impositions
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Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.
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1676
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Wing H2453; ESTC R20018
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with_o a_o short_a intermission_n of_o time_n in_o which_o the_o king_n shall_v not_o receive_v it_o as_o 5_o r._n 2._o n._n 40._o there_o be_v to_o be_v a_o interruption_n to_o the_o king_n take_v of_o it_o for_o a_o week_n between_o the_o nativity_n and_o the_o circumcision_n and_o the_o like_o 9_o k._n 2._o n._n 11._o for_o above_o a_o month_n from_o midsummer_n to_o the_o first_o of_o august_n and_o then_o 13_o h._n 4._o n._n 10._o they_o speak_v out_o and_o say_v they_o give_v it_o the_o king_n for_o a_o year_n so_o always_o as_o the_o same_o shall_v be_v confess_v to_o proceed_v of_o their_o own_o good_a will_n and_o not_o duty_n 27_o e._n 3._o n._n 9_o sir_n bartholomew_n burghersh_n the_o king_n chamberlain_n make_v a_o long_a speech_n to_o both_o house_n the_o king_n present_a declare_v the_o wrong_n which_o the_o king_n receive_v from_o his_o enemy_n of_o france_n as_o the_o record_n style_v he_o keep_v from_o he_o that_o crown_n which_o be_v his_o right_n that_o the_o king_n be_v resolve_v to_o recover_v it_o by_o force_n and_o therefore_o desire_v the_o prelate_n lord_n and_o commons_o to_o grant_v unto_o he_o the_o subsidy_n of_o wool_n woolfells_a and_o leather_n which_o be_v then_o expire_v for_o a_o long_a time_n sur_n queu_o priere_n say_v the_o record_n eve_o deliberation_n entre_fw-fr les_fw-fr ditz_fw-fr prelatz_n grauntz_n et_fw-fr cones_n sassenterent_fw-la unement_fw-fr et_fw-la granterent_fw-la au_fw-fr roi_fw-fr le_fw-fr subside_n des_fw-fr leyns_n quir_n et_fw-fr peaux_n lanuz_fw-fr pour_fw-fr trois_fw-fr anz_fw-fr etc._n etc._n et_fw-fr que_fw-fr les_fw-fr deniers_fw-fr sourdan_n de_fw-fr mesme_fw-fr le_fw-fr subside_n soient_fw-fr sawement_fw-fr gardez_fw-fr pour_fw-fr la_fw-fr dite_fw-fr guerre_fw-fr sans_fw-fr ceo_fw-la qils_fw-fr soient_fw-fr mis_fw-fr en_fw-fr autre_fw-fr oep_v dequent_a grante_n nostre_fw-fr s_o le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr enmerciale_n signior_n et_fw-la commune_v the_o king_n here_o make_v it_o his_o desire_n to_o the_o 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legem_fw-la agreement_n alter_v right_a and_o though_o the_o certain_a time_n when_o this_o agreement_n be_v first_o make_v and_o when_o this_o be_v first_o alter_v and_o all_o the_o circumstance_n of_o that_o first_o alteration_n and_o of_o that_o agreement_n can_v be_v make_v out_o by_o the_o record_n yet_o it_o may_v be_v make_v out_o that_o it_o be_v before_o the_o 9th_o of_o h._n 4._o n._n 21_o 22._o when_o the_o indemnity_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o commons_o and_o of_o the_o lord_n aswell_o as_o of_o the_o commons_o be_v declare_v and_o settle_v by_o a_o law_n make_v that_o parliament_n for_o that_o purpose_n and_o the_o law_n have_v that_o title_n indempnitee_n des_fw-fr signior_n et_fw-fr commune_v and_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o settle_v and_o establish_v the_o manner_n of_o grant_v subsidy_n in_o parliament_n and_o the_o power_n of_o proceed_v of_o either_o house_n in_o pass_a act_n of_o that_o nature_n be_v there_o nothing_o else_o the_o record_n set_v forth_o that_o 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n'encontre_fw-fr les_fw-fr libertee_n de_fw-fr les_fw-fr seigneurs_fw-fr susdit_n nor_o against_o the_o liberty_n and_o freedom_n of_o the_o foresay_a lord_n will_n grant_n and_o declare_v with_o the_o advice_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o lord_n themselves_o that_o in_o this_o and_o all_o future_a parliament_n it_o shall_v be_v lawful_a for_o the_o lord_n to_o debate_n and_o commune_v among_o themselves_o of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o the_o necessary_a remedy_n and_o likewise_o the_o commons_o to_o do_v the_o same_o by_o themselves_o and_o that_o neither_o the_o lord_n nor_o the_o commons_o shall_v acquaint_v the_o king_n with_o any_o grant_v make_v by_o the_o commons_o and_o by_o the_o lord_n assent_v unto_o nor_o with_o any_o of_o the_o communication_n concern_v that_o grant_n till_o the_o lord_n and_o commons_o themselves_o come_v to_o a_o agreement_n and_o accord_n in_o that_o behalf_n and_o then_o to_o be_v in_o the_o manner_n and_o form_n as_o have_v be_v 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as_o 37_o h._n 8._o the_o only_o print_a act_n of_o subsidy_n in_o all_o his_o reign_n which_o begin_v thus_o we_o the_o king_n majesty_n most_o humble_a faithful_a and_o obedient_a subject_n the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a and_o the_o commons_o in_o this_o present_a parliament_n assemble_v etc._n etc._n have_v consult_v together_o and_o determine_v to_o beseech_v his_o majesty_n most_o humble_o to_o accept_v and_o gracious_o to_o receive_v at_o our_o hand_n the_o simple_a token_n or_o gift_n which_o we_o do_v herewith_o present_v to_o his_o majesty_n free_o with_o one_o consent_n grant_v the_o same_o most_o humble_o beseech_v his_o majesty_n to_o accept_v the_o same_o as_o it_o please_v the_o great_a king_n alexander_n to_o receive_v thankful_o a_o cup_n of_o water_n of_o a_o poor_a man_n by_o the_o high-way-side_n etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o they_o say_v wherefore_o we_o the_o say_v lord_n and_o commons_o do_v by_o our_o mutual_a assent_n and_o agreement_n 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make_v a_o alteration_n in_o the_o nature_n and_o force_n of_o that_o law_n but_o that_o still_o it_o remain_v the_o same_o to_o show_v what_o then_o shall_v have_v be_v do_v however_o the_o king_n be_v please_v to_o do_v otherwise_o and_o what_o will_v be_v do_v or_o at_o least_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v at_o a_o other_o time_n and_o now_o we_o will_v go_v with_o they_o to_o walsingham_n and_o see_v if_o history_n make_v more_o for_o they_o than_o record_v though_o neither_o be_v history_n a_o sufficient_a proof_n for_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n neither_o be_v walsinghams_n or_o any_o of_o those_o monk_n write_n the_o most_o authentic_a history_n in_o the_o world_n but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o walsingham_n say_v p._n 475._o he_o say_v his_o diebus_fw-la clerus_fw-la &_o populus_fw-la primo_fw-la quintam_fw-la decimam_fw-la &_o postmodum_fw-la tricesimam_fw-la bonorum_fw-la suorum_fw-la regi_fw-la angliae_fw-la in_o subsidium_fw-la concesserunt_fw-la and_o p._n 488._o he_o say_v pro_fw-la confirmatione_fw-la harum_fw-la rerum_fw-la omnium_fw-la dedit_fw-la populus_fw-la anglicanus_n regi_fw-la denarium_fw-la nonum_fw-la bonorum_fw-la suorum_fw-la &_o clerus_fw-la cantuariensis_n decimum_fw-la &_o clerus_fw-la eboracensis_fw-la quintum_fw-la quia_fw-la proprior_fw-la damno_fw-la fuit_fw-la what_o do_v this_o signify_v but_o that_o the_o laity_n give_v so_o much_o and_o the_o clergy_n so_o much_o and_o certain_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v part_n of_o the_o laity_n therefore_o the_o laity_n give_v they_o be_v comprehend_v an_o other_o quotation_n be_v urge_v from_o p._n 566._o the_o word_n be_v eo_fw-la tempore_fw-la incohatum_fw-la est_fw-la parliamentum_fw-la quod_fw-la protelabatur_fw-la inutiliter_fw-la fere_n per_fw-la annum_fw-la quia_fw-la postquam_fw-la parliamentales_fw-la milites_fw-la distulissent_fw-la diu_fw-la concedere_fw-la regi_fw-la subsidium_fw-la in_o fine_a tamen_fw-la fracti_fw-la concessere_fw-la taxam_fw-la petitam_fw-la grandi_fw-la communitatis_fw-la damno_fw-la but_o how_o they_o will_v prove_v hence_o that_o the_o commons_o give_v this_o subsidy_n alone_o be_v difficult_a to_o tell_v all_o that_o can_v be_v gather_v from_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v but_o this_o the_o knight_n in_o parliament_n which_o may_v be_v take_v for_o the_o whole_a house_n of_o commons_o hold_v off_o a_o long_a time_n but_o at_o last_o yield_v and_o give_v the_o tax_n demand_v to_o the_o great_a prejudice_n of_o the_o commonalty_n do_v it_o follow_v therefore_o that_o when_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o have_v pass_v it_o at_o last_o the_o lord_n do_v not_o assent_v and_o join_v in_o the_o grant_n certain_o no_o man_n will_v say_v it_o and_o for_o their_o last_o quotation_n out_o of_o p._n 564_o in_o h._n 4_o this_o time_n that_o subsidium_fw-la denegatum_fw-la fuit_fw-la proceribus_fw-la renitentibus_fw-la the_o word_n be_v these_o in_o quadragesima_fw-la sequente_fw-la rex_fw-la convenire_fw-la fecit_fw-la apud_fw-la sanctum_fw-la albanum_fw-la clerum_fw-la regnique_fw-la barones_n sed_fw-la proceribus_fw-la renitentibus_fw-la nil_fw-la actum_fw-la fuit_fw-la and_o no_o wonder_n that_o the_o lord_n dissent_v nothing_o be_v do_v yet_o whether_o this_o be_v a_o parliament_n or_o only_o a_o great_a council_n non_fw-la constat_fw-la more_o like_a to_o have_v be_v only_o a_o great_a council_n and_o that_o the_o king_n have_v propound_v matter_n of_o money_n to_o they_o as_o he_o do_v afterward_o in_o the_o parliament_n of_o the_o 9th_o of_o his_o reign_n to_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n and_o as_o this_o very_a writer_n say_v that_o he_o have_v do_v a_o little_a before_o to_o these_o same_o baron_n at_o london_n viz._n post_fw-la festum_fw-la purificationis_fw-la rex_fw-la accerssitis_fw-la londiniis_fw-la regni_fw-la baronibus_fw-la tract_n abat_fw-la cum_fw-la eisdem_fw-la de_fw-la regni_fw-la regimine_fw-la deque_fw-la pecuniali_fw-la subventione_n sibi_fw-la ferenda_fw-la sed_fw-la proceres_fw-la regiis_fw-la votis_fw-la tum_fw-la minimè_fw-la paruere_fw-la all_o this_o be_v but_o a_o great_a council_n and_o no_o parliament_n if_o so_o be_v walsingham_n give_v a_o true_a account_n of_o what_o pass_v for_o he_o do_v not_o mention_v the_o commons_o to_o have_v be_v summon_v at_o all_o or_o that_o they_o be_v there_o however_o be_v they_o or_o be_v they_o not_o there_o it_o make_v nothing_o for_o the_o manager_n purpose_n to_o prove_v the_o commons_o sole_a giver_n and_o then_o for_o what_o he_o observe_v that_o the_o lord_n not_o agree_v a_o act_n do_v not_o pass_v be_v what_o no_o man_n yet_o do_v ever_o doubt_v of_o the_o statute_n of_o 1_o e._n 3._o c._n 6._o where_o the_o commons_o complain_v that_o when_o they_o have_v grant_v a_o aid_n and_o the_o taxer_n have_v tax_v they_o and_o they_o have_v pay_v the_o money_n there_o be_v inquisition_n afterward_o and_o the_o taxer_n put_v to_o fine_a and_o ransom_n signify_v nothing_o to_o prove_v they_o be_v the_o 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