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B02748 The doting Athenians imposing questions, no proofs. In answer to their questions and most apparent mistakes, about the people commonly called Quakers and their profession. This being our 5th. answer to their Mercuries of the 7th. 11th. and 14th. of June last. 1692 (1692) Wing D1954A; ESTC R174714 7,803 2

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Q. Whether you don 't in terms deny the Resurrection of the Body An. No. Q. And call those fools who affirm we shall rise with the same Bodies we had while living A. The Apostle calls such fools also who question with what body c. and tells them thou sowest not that body that shall be and distinguisheth between the Natural Body and the Spiritual Body between Bodies Coelestial and Bodies Terrestrial 1 Cor. 15. ch Q. Whether you believe any real Resurrection or mean any thing besides Regeneration in this Life A. Yea a Real Resurrection not only by Regeneration from Sin but from Sufferings here and unto Glory hereafter Q. And whether you think every Man's Soul shall be reunited to a distinct Body at the Day of Judgment A. Yea to distinct Body proper to it as it shall please God to give it 1 Cor. 15. Q. 8. Who was your first Founder Or to avoid Cavils who do you esteem your first Restorer Or who first taught Quakerism as Quakerism here in England or in any other Nation A. Christ Jesus was our first Founder Foundation and Restorer and he made use of several Instruments as he pleased powerfully to preach Him and his Name and Power among us Your term Quakerism we reject as being a Nick-name in scorn and contempt cast upon our Christian Religion and Profession Q. 9. Did your People Quake and Tremble or no when they first appeared in England Do they Quake now If not what you give as the Reason of one and t'other A. Many did and some do both fear and tremble at the Word of the Lord in several states conditions and exercises because of the Glory of the Lord and of his glorious Power that 's risen in our day as his Servants did in former Ages though you seem but scornfully to question us in this matter Q. 10. Where we may find your Creed or any account of your Religion and whether 't is not alter'd in several particulars since your rise A. Come and see come into the true Light and see and you may find our Creed our Belief our living Faith in Christ Jesus the Author of it the same not altered but the true Apostolical Creed and therefore neither need nor shall we subscribe to any at your demand and to what purpose should we give you one that is a Creed of our own for you to credit us since you have so grosly reproached and stigmatized us and our Profession as you have done to discredit us with the Titles of Heresies dangerous and detestable Opinions horrid Blasphemies Idolatry c. Merc. Jun. 7. And give Positive Judgment That Fanaticism Enthusiasm and Infidelity together make up the Creed of a Quaker And yet now you are very solicitous to enquire and find out ou● Creed thus preposterous and contradictory you are in your pr●cedure first to give judgment pass sentence and then enquire o● the Parties condemned by you for matter of fact against themselves May you not be sorely ashamed of such extrajudicial proceedings both contrary to common Law and Justice and especially seeing you have no power to impose an Oath Ex Officio to force persons to b● their own accusers and prosecutors It had far better become you to have been sparing of your sentence and condemnation upon the Quaker and his Creed until you had known it and been better informed as to matter of fact charged by you You say It is in vain t● bring an Act of Parliament to prove our selves Christians but you mistake we did not bring it for that end but to shew you that our Profession is recognized by Act of Parliament as Christian but slighted by you tho' it be a Profession of our Belief In God the Father and in his Son Jesus Christ and in the Holy Spirit one God blessed for evermore and withal acknowledging the holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by Divine Inspiration But tho' this has the Approbation of Parliament and Sanction of Law for our Exemption or Liberty of Conscience from certain Penal Laws yet you are not pleased with it no more than with our Liberty You flatteringly yet jeeringly say of the Parliament viz. For with all respect possible to that August Assembly there are other things which they can't do besides making a Man a Woman You might have been more mannerly towards that Assembly however than thus to Cant or Carp at their Proceedings in the said Act and Confession in it against which you can also confidently make your Exception viz. There is not a word in 't asserting the Trinity of Persons nor of the Scriptures being the Word of God or Compleat Rule of Faith and Manners It seems the Parliament wanted you to dictate to them Here is not a word of asserting the Trinity of Persons say you and what then is theirs defective therefore No. Therein it appears the Parliament was far more ingenuous than your selves they did not impose upon us an unscriptural Profession but were content with one in Scripture-terms which you are not but rather striving about words even when the thing you intend is granted in Scripture-phrase This your Affront to the Parliament does not bespeak your Humility no more than your Turbulent Work of scandalously Libellizing and Branding peaceable Subjects even a whole Body of Christian People with being Blasphemers Hereticks c. to make division among the People as if nothing less than Persecution would satiate your Envy And seeing your Faith stands so much in Words and Terms we would ask you what Rule you have in the holy Scriptures for the words Trinity of Persons or had you them not rather from your Mother-Church and if so then the Scripture is not the Rule of your Faith therein but the Church And then how esteem you the Scriptures the compleat Rule of your Faith You seem to ask pardon for your accusation about the Soul 's sleeping after Death but then instead of true Repentance you add two gross Falshoods to it viz. That we hold after Death no Soul no Resurrection Also your gross lying story against John Whitehead about his monstrous Bigness you endeavour to extenuate by telling us That the extravagant pleasantness of the Relation i. e. of that unlucky Story as you call it tempted you beyond your Design But this will not excuse your blind Credulity of a lying Story nor your malicious Confidence in divulging it to the Nation which you greatly abuse with these your Libels And you have many more lying Stories against us in general to retract particularly 1. That the Quakers use to say that there St. Paul had not the Spirit viz. in saying God is my witness Rom. 1. 9. God knoweth that I lye not 2 Cor. 11. 31 c. as in your Merc. June 7. 2. And that the Quakers Worship each other Pray to Man Worship Man c. 3. And that they deny the distinct Existence of the Soul after Death 4. And that they hold it s intirely absorpt in God and to lose its Individuation 5. And that they rest on their own Merits Merc. June 14. With many more notorious and known Falshoods and lying Stories and Defarnations cast upon us in your Accusations and Charges both in this your Mercury of June 14. and the other two preceeding already answer'd by us for which we say The Lord rebuke you and grant you Repentance and Forgiveness POSTSCRIPT NOW you our obscure Adversaries or Athenian Mercury Writers We whose Names are under-written do fairly Propose to you that it may appear to the World that we are not ashamed of our Christian Principles and Profession nor affraid to stand by and defend them against your Perversions Oppositions and Clamorous Reproaches to own what you have writ or may write against us by subscribing your real Names to the same and not lye lurking in obscurity and smiting in the dark if you dare own and stand by all you write against us or intend it to be of any credit that we may know where to find you and more readily shew you your Mistakes And as persons well known in and about this City we hereunto subscribe our Names Charles Bathurst Iohn Edridge William Meade Theodor Eccleston William Ingram William Crouch George Whitehea● Walter Lenthal Thomas Barker LONDON Printed for Thomas Northcott in George-yard in Lombard-street 1692.